Official Packers vs Chefs Meaningless Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Come On Jordan Love. Increase your trade value.

The battle for backup Edge rushers continues. Enagbare seems to be winning so far. Garvin, Hamilton, Galeai and Jones the other contenders. Probably 5 guys going for 3 spots.

Hoping to see a strong performance from Tom. I like Newman/Tom at RG/RT better than Hanson/Newman in the event that Jenkins isn't ready.

Sure would be fun to se Doubs and Watson light it up tonight.

Battle for #3 RB could be decided tonight. Don't ignore what happens on special teams.

[texaspackerbacker]

Any word on if KC is playing their starters?

[smuggler]

Cutdowns are next Tuesday. There are a few players I'll keep an eye on. Abernathy is one of them.

[bobblehead]

I'm going to be the first to call it. This is Rodgers last season. Love is our QB next year. This talk of Love improving so much from last year is what i call "media driven perception". Anyone who watches nothing but the 2nd half of KC and then the Detroit game shouldn't be shocked when Love plays well. In Detroit he completed 9 passes in a row at one point, and in KC after he calmed down vs. the blitz he was very effective.

I read the articles and had the same perception as many here until I rewatched those games. Love is a legit NFL QB and other than nerves getting him a couple times he looks the part. Don't read into this as me thinking he is the next AR or Maholmes....that is just foolish to project on to anyone until they actually do it. But a legit NFL starter. To me he looks worlds better than Tua, Fields, Marriota, Winston. He is a better passer than Lamar or Hurts. I'm thinking he will be something like Ryan Tannehill when he was at his best. A guy who you can win with, but not a guy who takes over games and wins them for you (how many of those guys are there really anyway??) Tannehill seems like the best comp for me. Athletic guy, but not freaky. Needs a good system and team around him, but can be a winner in a good circumstance.

Mark the page so you can mock me later. Love will be a very good QB for us....not AR, but then who is?

[Joemailman]

Any word on if KC is playing their starters?

Reid is "undecided". Last year their starters played about 15 snaps in last preseason game.

[Joemailman]

Game also on NFL Network.

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[call_me_ishmael]

LOL the Packers TV network goes to Alaska? No wonder Freak Out became a fan ;-)

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm going to be the first to call it. This is Rodgers last season. Love is our QB next year.

Wise of you to put this prediction in a thread that will be long lost and forgotten by next year and going forward hahahahahahahahahaha.

[Joemailman]

Christian Watson will not play tonight.

[pittstang5]

Special teams still suck

[RashanGary]

Kind of annoying to see Skyy Moore line up that punt perfect and catch it easily. Am Rodgers looks lost on every punt

[Joemailman]

Walker great pursuit after catch.

[RashanGary]

Walker great pursuit after catch.

Yeah. Nice to have two elite athletes inside. I hope he catches on quick.

[pittstang5]

Great Punt

[RashanGary]

OL struggling. Not much in the run game, Love in duress. Not a good look

[Joemailman]

Hanson gives up pressure. No receivers open so far.

[MadScientist]

KCs first stringers on defense are better than the Packers backups.

[pittstang5]

OL struggling. Not much in the run game, Love in duress. Not a good look

Agreed, but Pack's oline is mostly 2nd string going against KC's starters. Still, doesn't look good. Actually thought Love was going to cause a safety on 2nd and then again on 3rd down.

[pittstang5]

Too many missed tackles on D on that 3rd down.

[pittstang5]

Got hosed on that call

[RashanGary]

Quay all over the place. Looks confident, no false steps or hesitancy. He looks good.

[pittstang5]

Special teams still suck

[Joemailman]

Quay all over the place. Looks confident, no false steps or hesitancy. He looks good.

Until tonight I thought he had been better in practice than in games. He's good tonight.

[MadScientist]

Return game still looking terrible

[pittstang5]

I know this is preseason, but this is pathetic.

[Joemailman]

Packers O-line losing tonight.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

KC is bump n running Doubs all day.

[RashanGary]

Love with a couple nice passes in tight windows. All things considered, he’s handled everything well tonight.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Goodson to da house!

[pittstang5]

Wow...nice moves by Goodson.

[Joemailman]

Goodson just make the team?

[RashanGary]

Goodson has a little Aaron Jones in him

[MadScientist]

Did KC take all their starters out?

[RashanGary]

That pass down the sideline by Love wasn’t good. His first negative of the night.

[Joemailman]

Nice drive. Lot of interesting stuff there.

[Joemailman]

That pass down the sideline by Love wasn’t good. His first negative of the night.

I'm not sure Doubs was where Love expected him to be.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Did KC take all their starters out?

It is the preseason. Chickenshit is the name of the game. Scrubs are all around.

[RashanGary]

I'm not sure Doubs was where Love expected him to be.

I wondered about that. There is a bit of a guessing game, what really goes on. Over the course of a season, you can get a feel for a player, but in a small sample, it’s just so hard to know exactly what’s going on.

[Joemailman]

Barnes in. Walker out.

[Joemailman]

Oops. Broken coverage.

[MadScientist]

SF coverage scheme shows up again

[Joemailman]

Love is firing bullets.

[RashanGary]

Rasheed Walker holding his own. Sheesh, how many OL can we keep??

[RashanGary]

Love has played a really solid game. Handled everything that’s come his way.

[Joemailman]

Rasheed Walker holding his own. Sheesh, how many OL can we keep??

I've had them keeping 10, and I wasn't including Walker.

[pittstang5]

Two penalties on the 1 yard line. Not good scrubs, not good.

[MadScientist]

Love has played a really solid game. Handled everything that’s come his way.

Have to agree. He's hitting the throws with good accuracy. None of the lapses like he had in the other two games.

[MadScientist]

That was roughing, not running into

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Muslim kicker is making everything. Why is Crosby still on the roster?

[Joemailman]

That was roughing, not running into

I agree. Took out his legs.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Muslim kicker can kickoff, too. Crosby, not so much.

[Joemailman]

Muslim kicker is making everything. Why is Crosby still on the roster?

Yeah, he nailed that 23 yarder.

[pittstang5]

Great opportunity here for Love to run the hurry up offense.

[RashanGary]

Winfree has had a couple 9 routes. No separation on either

[smuggler]

Zebras fucked up the penalty for hitting Ahmed. Hitting the plant leg of a kicker when the kicking leg is still in the air is a personal foul and should have been first and goal from the 3.

[Joemailman]

Winfree has had a couple 9 routes. No separation on either

Not his forte.

[MadScientist]

Davis actually caught one without turning it over

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Yeah, he nailed that 23 yarder.

With a DB in his face. Crosby woulda missed.

[Joemailman]

Davis actually caught one without turning it over

A testament to the triumph of the human spirit.

[pittstang5]

Horrible decision...Love has been off on the last three throws. Overthrown, underthrown, INT.

[MadScientist]

That pass is what happens when we say Love is looking good.

[smuggler]

Not watching the game at this point, but it's third down with like 25 seconds left. Just heave it up?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

[RashanGary]

That was a head scratcher for Love. Forcing it a little?? Favre threw a lot of those when it was make or break time. Not great. But not damning either.

Love still looks solid.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Love throwing into triple coverage. Proof that he is still a Black QB. - Tony ODay

[Joemailman]

Misread the coverage. Still, with 10 seconds left, not an egregious mistake.

[pittstang5]

Not watching the game at this point, but it's third down with like 25 seconds left. Just heave it up?

Pack still had a Timeout. Love - Bad decision, tried to thread the needle like # 12 and failed miserably.

[RashanGary]

I still think love is at least a pretty good backup. Accurate, good command, decent athlete. He’ll give us a chance if 12 goes down.

[RashanGary]

Rasheed Walker looks kind of effortless at tackle. We’re gonna have a tough time cutting down that OL

[RashanGary]

Quay Walker had a good outing. Looked real decisive, athletic and sure. Love looked like he could win a few games if he had to start. Goodson looks explosive.

Rasheed Walker looked steady as can be at tackle.

The kicker has a big leg. Looks good.

Zach Tom, another outing where he just holds his own.

Shemar Jean Charles feisty at corner

Toure made some plays

Some good things tonight

[smuggler]

Liked Tariq Carpenter ranging over to clean up after a nice KC pass play. Unfortunately, that was just before he and the CB got burnt by the KC tight end, Bushman, on the long TD pass.

[MadScientist]

Bad defense to start the half, but without blatant OPI, Abernathy would have taken it the other way

[MadScientist]

This punter has some serious leg. If he's out kicking coverage, they need to get faster cover people.

[Joemailman]

Heflin!

[RashanGary]

Our backup lineman: Wyatt, Slaton, Slayton and Heflin are just sort of there. They don’t get pushed around, but they don’t stand out much either. But at least we don’t have many instances of guys getting washed. They’re steady.

[Joemailman]

Winfree looking very ordinary. If he makes it, it will be because of ST. But he did get caught inside on long TD return by Chiefs.

[RashanGary]

Winfree looking very ordinary. If he makes it, it will be because of ST. But he did get caught inside on long TD return by Chiefs.

I was thinking the same thing. Doesn’t get separation. Ordinary.

Toure reminds me a little of Driver, as an athlete. Similar build, decent speed.

I hope Watson is a player. I feel good about Doubs. Toure is a maybe. I don’t like much else after that.

[Joemailman]

Packers need to practice tackling in their ST drills.

[smuggler]

Tom with a 40 yard penalty tonight. Not a game of outcomes, a game of processes, but that is a nasty outcome.

Etling ends up being 6/6 for 83 yards. Pretty good throwing to JAGs in mop-up time. Toure kinda seems like he wouldn't make it through waivers, to me.

[Joemailman]

Taylor with some nice moves, but not much speed.

[Joemailman]

Etling has an NFL arm. It's why he's here and not Benkert.

[RashanGary]

One of the more disappointing aspects to our probable intial 53 is using two spots on Watkins and Cobb. They are below average with no upside. But I am not sure anyone is worth keeping after our big two developmental guys. The receiver position is not great.

They could keep between 5 and 7 but probably only 3 are really desirable roster spots.

[RashanGary]

7 receivers seems crazy to me. Lazard, Doubs and Watson are the only three you want on your roster. Maybe Cobb and Watkins are necessities because you need assignment sure players playing on Sunday.

After that, is practice squad talent any worse than whatever is left??

Keeping 7 of these misfits seems criminal to me.

[texaspackerbacker]

Keeping 7 WRs IMO is obvious. Cobb on his worst day is better than Amari. We haven't even seen Watkins. How can you be so negative about him. Supposedly reports about him in practice are good.

Watson, Doubs, Lazard, Watkins, Cobb, Toure, and Winfree for the 7th over Amari.

I need to watch the game tomorrow morning. I went to a high school game tonight instead - family friend's kid playing.

[Joemailman]

Keeping 7 WRs IMO is obvious. Cobb on his worst day is better than Amari. We haven't even seen Watkins. How can you be so negative about him. Supposedly reports about him in practice are good.

Watson, Doubs, Lazard, Watkins, Cobb, Toure, and Winfree for the 7th over Amari.

I need to watch the game tomorrow morning. I went to a high school game tonight instead - family friend's kid playing.

Amari had a good game. Winfree looked ordinary at best. Toure had a great night.

[Fritz]

Amari had a good game. Winfree looked ordinary at best. Toure had a great night.

I'm not sure how much Aaron Rodgers's opinion matters on such decisions these days, but I would think, from an organizational point of view, that that final wide receiver spot - the seventh, I think it would be - ought to go to Toure and not Winfree. At this point, Winfree is what he is - a marginal NFL player. Good teammate probably, hard worker, most likely, but I think he's hitting the ceiling, or is close. You cut him, and you want him back if he's eligible for PS (I don't know if he is), you have a good chance of having that. But if you cut Toure, a seventh round pick with some upside, you stand a good chance of losing him to a team like the Loins or the Bares - teams that can afford to keep him on the roster and develop him.

Plus, I understand Toure is full-in on special teams - he's bought into it and has done it. So he has that value, too - that's not something Winfree has on him.

So if they keep seven, I'd say Toure should be that last guy.

[Joemailman]

I'm not sure how much Aaron Rodgers's opinion matters on such decisions these days, but I would think, from an organizational point of view, that that final wide receiver spot - the seventh, I think it would be - ought to go to Toure and not Winfree. At this point, Winfree is what he is - a marginal NFL player. Good teammate probably, hard worker, most likely, but I think he's hitting the ceiling, or is close. You cut him, and you want him back if he's eligible for PS (I don't know if he is), you have a good chance of having that. But if you cut Toure, a seventh round pick with some upside, you stand a good chance of losing him to a team like the Loins or the Bares - teams that can afford to keep him on the roster and develop him.

Plus, I understand Toure is full-in on special teams - he's bought into it and has done it. So he has that value, too - that's not something Winfree has on him.

So if they keep seven, I'd say Toure should be that last guy.

I agree. And everybody is eligible for the practice squad. You can have as many as 6 players on PS who are eligible no matter how much they've played in the NFL.

[Teamcheez1]

Did Watson see any snaps in the game?

[Joemailman]

Did Watson see any snaps in the game?

No.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, I finished watching the game.

One thing that stood out was the punter, O'Donnell really kicking the crap out of the ball. Unfortunately, coverage wasn't very good. I'm tempted to give the ST coach the benefit of the doubt because some many players in there will probably be gone by the regular season, but still, other teams don't seem to have a problem due to that.

Both RBs looked good. Taylor looked a lot better than last week. The O Line didn't do them any favors - poor blocking way more often than not. And this was mostly O Linemen that will be making the team in there not opening holes against the Chiefs, not just the first series against the Chiefs #1 D but pretty much the whole game.

I suppose those who still have hope for Jordan Love saw some good from him, but I honestly didn't see much. And kick me in the ass for saying so, but Etling looked better than Love. Yeah, I know he was playing against lower level D, but he just seemed to have more zip and accuracy on his throws than Love.

I see some people are down on Winfree. He didn't look like anything special, but I still thought he looked better than Amari.

On D, both Heflin and Slayton kicked it up a notch and had good games. Is it possible we keep both? Ford didn't look good, but they say he has potential. Quay Walker looked good in the small amount he played. Engabare did some good things both against the run and pass rushing, but I saw him mess up at least once in pass coverage. Among the DBs, it seemed like Gafford got beat just about every time. Abernathy after looking so good last week, seemed lost in pass coverage a couple of times.

It's stupid to talk about cutting Watson, but I am wondering why he didn't play. Maybe because he needs practice with Rodgers, not Love.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree with RG that Rasheed Walker was good. Zach Tom was good again. Even the one mistake he made all preseason (illegal hands to the face) was impressive. He blocked his man and got over to the stunting DL.

I liked Tariq Carpenter on special teams. He reminds me of Sean Richardson. I'm not convinced he was responsible for the long TD. It looked to me that Rico Gafford was supposed to carry the TE down the field. Micah Abernathy and Innis Gaines (before getting hurt) were not good on special teams.

Jonathan Ford got washed a lot. Chris Slayton has pass rush ability, but he's not a good run defender. He's been in the league awhile, so he may be maxed out. It's a tough call between him and Jack Heflin, if they go with 6 DL.

It wasn't Kingsley Enagbare's best game this preseason. Jonathan Garvin can at least set a mean edge, and he played a lot of special teams tonight. I now think Garvin is EDGE3. Enagbare is EDGE4. Tipa makes the team based on special teams. I don't think Jones or Hamilton played well enough to get a spot.