OFFICIAL AARON RODGERS THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[sharpe1027]

Would you rather have a 40 year old Rodgers with a torn Achilles or Love and two seconds?

Tough call. Love can maybe get one play done with only two seconds.

[Fritz]

Tough call. Love can maybe get one play done with only two seconds.

Good one.

Getting back to my previous post, I do wonder how much sway Rodgers really, really holds over the organization. Does Woodhead Johnson hang onto Saleh and Hackett next year, even if this year goes completely in the pooper, because Rodgers wants them back when he comes back? Does Saleh have to wonder if Rodgers really wants him there, or is it just Hackett?

Could Woodhead really fire Hackett and have Rodgers be okay with that, if the offense can't produce at all this year? Would the Jest fire Saleh but tell any new head coach he has to keep Hackett so Rodgers is happy? (Shades of the MLF hiring with Mike Pettine.) Would Saleh be willing to dump a defensive coordinator as a scape goat, but keep Hackett, just to keep his job?

These are the kinds of headaches you get when you get Aaron Rodgers. Even when he's injured and out, he's still a heavy weight on the decision making of the brass.

You can have that.

[run pMc]

Hackett, Saleh, etc. probably have years left on their contracts, Woody will keep them if Rodgers comes back. I think even if Rodgers doesn't and they get to 6-7 wins they could be back but with a new R1 QB to replace Zach. Their defense is pretty good and they have talent at skill positions...just not at QB.

[run pMc]

I'd take Jordan Love and 2 R2 picks over a 40 yo QB with a torn Achilles.
Rodgers may come back and possibly do so with a vengeance, but his best days are far behind him. Very few 40 QBs have thrown more than 100 passes in the NFL.

[red]

He was already losing accuracy and scrambling ability. We all saw it last year

That’s not gonna get better with this injury, no matter how experimental it is

He’ll be 40 coming off a massive injury that impacts your mobility

I bet he fights his way back, if no other reason the collecting that paycheck, but he isn’t going to better then what he was last season

[run pMc]

Reminder: last season he never cracked 300 yards and only threw for 3 TDs once - vs. Dallas.
In NFL-time, he'll be a long time removed from that, never mind his MVP seasons.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Would you rather have a 40 year old Rodgers with a torn Achilles or Love and two seconds?

Wait, 2 seconds? I guess Love ain’t Black enough, cos, the Blacks are stereotypically known for their reproduction powers.

To answer your question, IF I were a chick or a queer, I’d take a 40 year old man, even one with a torn Achilles (which ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter a reproduction organ) any night of the week over some sensitive fuck who can’t last more 2 fucking seconds.

[Fritz]

APB, we all pretty much got a schtick in here; I get that. But yours is getting so old it's crusty. You're supposedly a too-old-to-be-flipping-burgers burger flipper, and your "cool cool" hip-hop and music references are now old and worn out, as are your comments about black and white players. Jesus, your "hip hop safety" Harrison Smith is fucking 34 years old now. You know that, right?

[sharpe1027]

APB, we all pretty much got a schtick in here; I get that. But yours is getting so old it's crusty. You're supposedly a too-old-to-be-flipping-burgers burger flipper, and your "cool cool" hip-hop and music references are now old and worn out, as are your comments about black and white players. Jesus, your "hip hop safety" Harrison Smith is fucking 34 years old now. You know that, right?
I'm curious now. What's my schtick?

[KYPack]

I'm curious now. What's my schtick?

Whatever it is, it's good

[RashanGary]

I'm curious now. What's my schtick?

Being reasonable and solid.

[Fritz]

I'm curious now. What's my schtick?

You're . . . Sharpe.

Getting back to Arod in this thread, I heard it floated on Detroit sports radio yesterday that maybe the Vikes could hook up with the Jest and trade Cousins over there, so the Jest can salvage their season. Apparently, some of the defensive players are getting annoyed at how protective Long Tall Saleh has been of Zach Wilson. They all know if they played defense like he plays offense, they'd be benched and bitched at. So there's unrest in the Big Asshole.

And Minny would have an interest in getting rid of Cousins.

But do the Jest have to run that by ol' Aaron first, make sure he's cool with it?

Or if they don't, or if he's cool with it, since Cousins is in the last year of a contract, what if Cousins plays really well? Do the Jest dare to offer him a contract and call the Aaron experiment a failed one?

Again: the joys of having an aging HOF quarterback...

[run pMc]

Getting back to Arod in this thread, I heard it floated on Detroit sports radio yesterday that maybe the Vikes could hook up with the Jest and trade Cousins over there, so the Jest can salvage their season. Apparently, some of the defensive players are getting annoyed at how protective Long Tall Saleh has been of Zach Wilson. They all know if they played defense like he plays offense, they'd be benched and bitched at. So there's unrest in the Big Asshole.


Not sure they can make that work with Cousins contract? Seems like just water cooler talk to pass time.
I can't imagine trading Cousins 3-4 weeks into the season, it's a bad NFC and you're waving the white flag awfully early. You're also hoping the Bears and Cards do better than you so you can pick a top 3 QB. The Minny fan base is cranky already, if they trade their QB away they'll be really mad... and so will Justin Jefferson. You want to extend him with nobody at QB? No matter what, Vikings are in a tricky spot.

As for Jets defensive players, they'd have to send some over in the trade, probably. I might prefer to play for Saleh and hope to stick around for Rodgers' return next year.

[Fritz]

Not sure they can make that work with Cousins contract? Seems like just water cooler talk to pass time.
I can't imagine trading Cousins 3-4 weeks into the season, it's a bad NFC and you're waving the white flag awfully early. You're also hoping the Bears and Cards do better than you so you can pick a top 3 QB. The Minny fan base is cranky already, if they trade their QB away they'll be really mad... and so will Justin Jefferson. You want to extend him with nobody at QB? No matter what, Vikings are in a tricky spot.

As for Jets defensive players, they'd have to send some over in the trade, probably. I might prefer to play for Saleh and hope to stick around for Rodgers' return next year.

If I recall correctly, Cousins is in the last year of his contract. And Aaron Rodgers did regnegotiate so the Jets would have some cap room.

Sure, it's early, but it sure looks like Cousin's not coming back to Minny anyway, so why not get a pick or two for the rebuild? It can't matter to much to Justin Jefferson, as Cousins wasn't coming back anyway.

[sharpe1027]

Rodgers has to go to the Vikings per the Favre rule. Maybe the Jets cut bait and trade him to the Vikings.

[Fritz]

Rodgers has to go to the Vikings per the Favre rule. Maybe the Jets cut bait and trade him to the Vikings.

Cool thought, but I can’t imagine why a rebuilding Vikes team would want an aging injured HOF QB.

But you never know.

[sharpe1027]

Cool thought, but I can’t imagine why a rebuilding Vikes team would want an aging injured HOF QB.

But you never know.

Because it's preordained.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers has to go to the Vikings per the Favre rule. Maybe the Jets cut bait and trade him to the Vikings.

Don't get ahead of your skis. First a dick pic.

[sharpe1027]

Don't get ahead of your skis. First a dick pic.

Check your PMs.

[RashanGary]

Check your PMs.

:lol:

[bobblehead]

I'm curious now. What's my schtick?

Same as most of us. Make outlandish claims then never admit when you're wrong. Its entertaining and harmless. Tex is the true master of it though, the rest of us are mere padowans.

[sharpe1027]

Same as most of us. Make outlandish claims then never admit when you're wrong. Its entertaining and harmless. Tex is the true master of it though, the rest of us are mere padowans.

I tend to be pretty boring in my claims.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers throwing in warmups today. Worst scenario for Packers would be Rodgers comes back to help Jets win games but doesn't play 65% of snaps. Could be a late 2nd pick.

[run pMc]

Rodgers throwing in warmups today. Worst scenario for Packers would be Rodgers comes back to help Jets win games but doesn't play 65% of snaps. Could be a late 2nd pick.

That's a publicity stunt. No way he's back and ready to play an NFL game until late in the season, and by then it might take time to shake the rust off.

Sure, Cam Akers tore his Achilles in July and made it back for Week 18, but he was a much younger man, and his performance left something to be desired.
I wouldn't doubt Rodgers is using all kinds of crazy drug cocktails invented by some Bulgarian to help him recover faster and make crazy claims on the podcast circuit... but a 40 year old human body can only recover so fast.

He's probably throwing just because he wants to keep the muscle memory of it, and he probably genuinely misses doing it on the field.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers has never had a PED suspension so I think a first is only 4 games. He should be shooting the HgH with both hands. Come back in week 13. If he gets busted he serves it out during the time he would have missed if he stayed clean.

[call_me_ishmael]

That's a publicity stunt. No way he's back and ready to play an NFL game until late in the season, and by then it might take time to shake the rust off.

Sure, Cam Akers tore his Achilles in July and made it back for Week 18, but he was a much younger man, and his performance left something to be desired.
I wouldn't doubt Rodgers is using all kinds of crazy drug cocktails invented by some Bulgarian to help him recover faster and make crazy claims on the podcast circuit... but a 40 year old human body can only recover so fast.

He's probably throwing just because he wants to keep the muscle memory of it, and he probably genuinely misses doing it on the field.

Cam Akers probably doesn't have the money to get the good stuff the way guys like Peyton, Kobe, etc do. Anybody think Rodgers isn't doing some crazy shiz here? I have no doubt he is getting every possible sketchy ass intervention. I would too with my legacy on the line. He kinda looks like a chump if he can't come back and do well in NYJ after the way he left.

[King Friday]

There is no chance that Rodgers plays later this season. He can live in a hyperbolic chamber for the next 3 months…won’t matter. He’s not at an age where that injury is going to heal in 4 months.

[Joemailman]

There is no chance that Rodgers plays later this season. He can live in a hyperbolic chamber for the next 3 months…won’t matter. He’s not at an age where that injury is going to heal in 4 months.


How, exactly, is Rodgers moving so quickly? Jaramillo points primarily to the "speed bridge" technique used to accelerate recovery, which allows for early weight-bearing. It's a fairly new procedure that few surgeons are trained to perform, he said, and Rodgers' surgeon, Dr. Neil ElAttrache, a close colleague of Jaramillo's, is "quite the pioneer in sports medicine." He notably repaired Tom Brady's torn ACL in 2008, and the former Patriots QB "only got better," appearing in five more Super Bowls before retiring at 45..

[King Friday]

The point is that Akers returned to football in a timeframe that would mean Rodgers could return for the Super Bowl if he came back at the same time. Akers had the same surgeon, but was also 15 years younger.

I’m sure he’ll do plenty of prancing around on the sidelines and in pregame the rest of the year. The diva can’t become a wallflower.

[MadScientist]

Cam Akers probably doesn't have the money to get the good stuff the way guys like Peyton, Kobe, etc do. Anybody think Rodgers isn't doing some crazy shiz here? I have no doubt he is getting every possible sketchy ass intervention. I would too with my legacy on the line. He kinda looks like a chump if he can't come back and do well in NYJ after the way he left.

Sketchy ass intervention is probably more likely to increase the time it takes to heal than shorten it. Rodgers probably got something akin to an internal brace ( abstract here (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27440059/)), but there is still a big difference between able to move around decently and being healed enough for full contact football.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

That's a publicity stunt. No way he's back and ready to play an NFL game until late in the season, and by then it might take time to shake the rust off.

Sure, Cam Akers tore his Achilles in July and made it back for Week 18, but he was a much younger man, and his performance left something to be desired.
I wouldn't doubt Rodgers is using all kinds of crazy drug cocktails invented by some Bulgarian to help him recover faster and make crazy claims on the podcast circuit... but a 40 year old human body can only recover so fast.

He's probably throwing just because he wants to keep the muscle memory of it, and he probably genuinely misses doing it on the field.

Butte plays QB, not RB. Sloths like TB12 and P-Mann were able to dominate without mobility. And besides, if Butte could play on a bum calf, ain’t no reason he can’t play on a bum ankle.

[call_me_ishmael]

Nah I don't think so, they can give you all sorts of stuff to stimulate healing. It's just not illegal or accessible to the normies.

[RashanGary]

Nah I don't think so, they can give you all sorts of stuff to stimulate healing. It's just not illegal or accessible to the normies.

What do you mean not illegal to the normies?

[call_me_ishmael]

Legal.

[RashanGary]

Legal.

I’ve never heard that drugs are legal for rich and famous people but not legal for us. I cant find anything about it either.

[RashanGary]

I guess Rodgers found a headset during last weeks game and started giving play call suggestions in the middle of the game :lol:

12 gonna be 12 smh

[RashanGary]

The Jets article in the athletic is absolutely hilarious. Just like here when everyone was looking like clowns, they all look like clowns in New York.

After the leaks came out of the Jets camp, Saleh lead a meeting with everyone in attendance and called for the rat to step forward. This is absolutely priceless because Saleh is an intimidating presence, and a room of over 100 people is intimidating too. I just imagine the rat sitting there trying to act cool as everyone looks around the room for, scanning for guilt on the rat’s face.

Oh god, it’s too much. I’m dying :lol:

[RashanGary]

The only thing funnier would be if the rat started crying :lol:

[RashanGary]

Over the years, we’ve been lucky as Packers fans to have the two most dramatic quarterbacks in NFL history play here. It’s always a hoot.

[MadtownPacker]

We can only wonder what your former employers (likely many) would say….

[red]

so the story goes that that hackett and the jets installed a playbook built around all of rodgers super secret plays. then he goes down, and the team still has to use rodgers special plays, that none of them know how to run, and refuses to run normal plays that the players do know. so the players were pissed, and completely confused

well, i'm shocked

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Now, I ain’t follow hoops feverishly like I did in my youth. Looks like white euros, like that tall fellow in Denver and cocky 77 of the Mavs, are evolving game to complete with the Blacks. Anyways, from the looks of it, the Greek Freak’s little bro ain’t got the game to be on a NBA D team. Yet, said little bro’s getting paid a shitload of frogskins to warm the bench in the NBA.

Point being, superstars playing GM ain’t nothing new. Lebron got a coach in Cleveland fired in favor of Ty Lue. Greek Freak’s little bro’s on the Bucks cos the Greek Freak demands it. GM Brady, with the Bucfuckneers, signed Gronk out of retirement along with the locker room cancer, AB.

Butte’s a superstar flying in the same stratosphere as LeBron, Freak, Brady, among others. Butte’s worthy of playing GM.

[Fritz]

Now, I ain’t follow hoops feverishly like I did in my youth. Looks like white euros, like that tall fellow in Denver and cocky 77 of the Mavs, are evolving game to complete with the Blacks. Anyways, from the looks of it, the Greek Freak’s little bro ain’t got the game to be on a NBA D team. Yet, said little bro’s getting paid a shitload of frogskins to warm the bench in the NBA.

Point being, superstars playing GM ain’t nothing new. Lebron got a coach in Cleveland fired in favor of Ty Lue. Greek Freak’s little bro’s on the Bucks cos the Greek Freak demands it. GM Brady, with the Bucfuckneers, signed Gronk out of retirement along with the locker room cancer, AB.

Butte’s a superstar flying in the same stratosphere as LeBron, Freak, Brady, among others. Butte’s worthy of playing GM.


The problem? He’s uh, not good at it.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The problem? He’s uh, not good at it.

Butte won 2 MVPs and took the Packers to 2 NFC Title games as GM. Only a choke job in the clutch vs the Pussies of Detroit prevented Butte from matching Sherman as the only GMs in Packers history to never miss the playoffs.

The front office fuck or fucks who - in an act of vetoing Butte - got cheap and refused to pony up for OBJ costed Pack another Roman numerals trophy. All things considered, I’d say Butte was a damn good GM in the Green and Mustard Yellow.

[Fritz]

Butte won 2 MVPs and took the Packers to 2 NFC Title games as GM. Only a choke job in the clutch vs the Pussies of Detroit prevented Butte from matching Sherman as the only GMs in Packers history to never miss the playoffs.

The front office fuck or fucks who - in an act of vetoing Butte - got cheap and refused to pony up for OBJ costed Pack another Roman numerals trophy. All things considered, I’d say Butte was a damn good GM in the Green and Mustard Yellow.

I couldn’t disagree more.

Can’t wait for the Jest to pass on a future franchise QB in the first round so they can draft some bust offensive tackle, per Rodgers’s command.

[ThunderDan]

I couldn’t disagree more.

Can’t wait for the Jest to pass on a future franchise QB in the first round so they can draft some bust offensive tackle, per Rodgers’s command.

Well, we already know that APB is awful at judging GMs with his love for Mike Sherman. The same Mike Sherman who traded up for a punter who couldn't crack the starting lineup and we carried 2 punters on our 53 man roster.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I couldn’t disagree more.

Can’t wait for the Jest to pass on a future franchise QB in the first round so they can draft some bust offensive tackle, per Rodgers’s command.

You mean top 5 draft picks franchise QBs like Sanchez, Darnold and “Mormon Boyz” Zach Wilson?

The Jesters can’t draft QBs in the 1st to save Batman’s life, so might as well take a Yokozuna.

[Fritz]

It would be a shock if it's anything other than an offensive tackle.

[George Cumby]

Butte who?

[Joemailman]

Butte who?

Body Cleanse Butte.

[Joemailman]

@KashwrapSupreme

Packers signed #1 Safety and Top 3 RB today to 4 year deals

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIbTYArX0AA9CeQ?format=jpg&name=small

[MadtownPacker]

What are you trying to post?

[Joemailman]

What are you trying to post?

I finally got it to work. Something about the guy's twitter name that was causing a problem.

[MadtownPacker]

What was the name? Candyman? Bloody Mary? Did you say it three time?

[Fritz]

@KashwrapSupreme

Packers signed #1 Safety and Top 3 RB today to 4 year deals

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIbTYArX0AA9CeQ?format=jpg&name=small

How long before Bakh signs with the Jest?

[Sparkey]

It will be in August for the Vet minimum.

[KYPack]

How long before Bakh signs with the Jest?

There is the matter of passing a physical first...

[Frozen Tundra]

There is the matter of passing a physical first...


Yeah, that's what everyone keeps forgetting. I don't think there's going to be any kind of a quick resolution to Bakhtiari, because we don't even have any idea when he'll be able to take the physical.

The fact that he hasn't had it yet (5 months after a surgery that nobody will even reveal the nature of) makes me wonder if he and Green bay both know it's not gong as well as had been hoped. It's one of the reasons I can't help wondering if he pretty much knows his career is over, but is just waiting as long as possible to make the final decision.

[Fritz]

There is the matter of passing a physical first...

Slip Bakh AND the team docs a little ayahuasca, and - - poof! — he’s cleared to play.

Well, for one or two games, until he gets hurt.

[sharpe1027]

One or two practices.

[red]

are we still on the hook for some kind of injury settlement from bahk, or are we clear of that since we waited until the start of the new league year?

[sharpe1027]

are we still on the hook for some kind of injury settlement from bahk, or are we clear of that since we waited until the start of the new league year?

We should be good.

[Teamcheez1]

Now AR may be running for Vice-President under RFK Jr. So happy the circus left town last year.

[George Cumby]

Now AR may be running for Vice-President under RFK Jr. So happy the circus left town last year.

IKR.

So over him.

[MadScientist]

Sending dick picks to a massage girl would be a more respectable thing to do.

[Deputy Nutz]

Rodgers is such an asshole.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Rodgers is such an asshole.

Favre’s an asshole. Butte is simply misunderstood.

[run pMc]

Favre’s an asshole. Butte is simply misunderstood.

Not much to misunderstand: he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, he's an egotistical hypocrite with some douchey takes who just happens to be a good football player. He's not (allegedly) stealing from the poor or anything like that (thank goodness), but Rodgers has made it pretty clear who he is.

[texaspackerbacker]

Favre was the best in the league, maybe the GOAT as of the tie he played. Rodgers definitely was the greatest in the league and probably the GOAT as of now. There's a more than decent chance that our new QB will end up taking the mantle of GOAT away from Rodgers. We have been blessed with over three decades of excellent football. Yet some ingrates and dumbasses buy into the media idiocy and piss all over these Packer greats. Shame on ya'all for that.

[Frozen Tundra]

Favre was the best in the league, maybe the GOAT as of the tie he played. Rodgers definitely was the greatest in the league and probably the GOAT as of now. There's a more than decent chance that our new QB will end up taking the mantle of GOAT away from Rodgers. We have been blessed with over three decades of excellent football. Yet some ingrates and dumbasses buy into the media idiocy and piss all over these Packer greats. Shame on ya'all for that.

As opposed to worshipping a guy just because he was a great athlete, and give him a free pass on being a total jackhole because he's entitled to some double standard?

I guess character matters more to some people than it does to others.

[Fosco33]

I like AR more everyday

[Frozen Tundra]

I've been on the fence about Rodgers for a while, more than a lot of other people. I've been sick of him for years, but still couldn't help liking the guy on some level - or at least, finding some really likable things about him. Kinda like some friends many of us had in college, who never seemed to grow up as much as the others and you never knew what stupid thing he was going to do next to irritate people, but you still can't help liking him.

Now I'm done with him. He's completely lost...

NOTE: Removed link because “new” poster doesn’t know better.

[MadtownPacker]

Frozen. You can’t be posting straight up political links in the Packers area. You are welcome to in FYI which is where ALL things politics go. While it is mentioned on this thread that Rodgers is potentially running that is where it ends. Going deeper into the subject other than the football side of it is discussing politics and will get you booted for a week the first time around.

Yeah it’s complicated so best to avoid it. Thanks.

[texaspackerbacker]

As opposed to worshipping a guy just because he was a great athlete, and give him a free pass on being a total jackhole because he's entitled to some double standard?

I guess character matters more to some people than it does to others.

A gigantic HELL YEAH to that. We're Packer fans, and both QBs (now maybe all three) gave us a helluva lot of pleasure for a LONG time. I don't give two shits about the alleged crap, true or not, and shame on any ingrate fake Packer fans who do.

That, and the God damned media attributing shit to them, to me that just reinforces what a bunch of assholes the God damned media people are.

[Fritz]

Saw an article in the Athletic in which neither writer could really believe Rodgers would really do such a thing; and if he did, they suppose he'd have to miss part of the season - thus the new Jest backup QB.

It's just not going to happen. How can it? Unless RFK thinks Rodgers's playing football on Sundays is as good as campaigning - that it IS his campaigning.

Guess we'll see.

[Joemailman]

It'll never happen. It would take RFK's people too long to learn the hand signals.

[MadScientist]

I'm not certain, but him running might make it difficult or impossible for networks to show games that he plays in. Which would cause a lot of financial headaches for the NFL, or force him to be on a reserve list (or suspended). The Jets might try to reclaim some of the bonus they paid him in that case. So I predict he will just play for the Jets until he gets hurt again.

[George Cumby]

It'll never happen. It would take RFK's people too long to learn the hand signals.

Hahahahahahahaha

[QBME]

Tip toeing

[Fritz]

It'll never happen. It would take RFK's people too long to learn the hand signals.

"Bobby, did he just wave away the last call you made, or did he just fart and he's waving the smell away?"

[run pMc]

Meh. He's a knucklehead and some other's team's problem. It's a distraction for the NYJ they don't need, but it gives Rodgers some of that spotlight he covets. You'd think he has some media competition with Russell Wilson.
One thing you have to wonder about: if he's considering this, how committed is he really to playing QB? Seems like if you are interested in multiple career paths at once, you aren't really committed to any. For a pro football player that's ... not great.

Ultimately he won't be a VP candidate, and RFK is a kooky truther who won't get enough votes anyway.

It does make for a lot of fun on social media on a slow day, though.

[MadtownPacker]

I remember when all you fuckers loved Rodgers. :lol:

[KYPack]

I remember when all you fuckers loved Rodgers. :lol:

Those days are gone, amigo,

Long gone.

[texaspackerbacker]

A lot of ingrates in here.

[Fritz]

Meh. He's a knucklehead and some other's team's problem. It's a distraction for the NYJ they don't need, but it gives Rodgers some of that spotlight he covets. You'd think he has some media competition with Russell Wilson.
One thing you have to wonder about: if he's considering this, how committed is he really to playing QB? Seems like if you are interested in multiple career paths at once, you aren't really committed to any. For a pro football player that's ... not great.

Ultimately he won't be a VP candidate, and RFK is a kooky truther who won't get enough votes anyway.

It does make for a lot of fun on social media on a slow day, though.

Ah, you just hit on it. IF Rodgers accepts as the VP candidate, he's two-thirds of the way to "MVP"!

[bobblehead]

I remember when all you fuckers loved Rodgers. :lol:

Who?

[texaspackerbacker]

Ah, you just hit on it. IF Rodgers accepts as the VP candidate, he's two-thirds of the way to "MVP"!

Wow that's the most profound thing I've seen for a while hahahaha. Fritz, you're really doing the math.

[MadtownPacker]

Who?
You were the 2nd or 3rd member of the club I started but took you almost a decade to join.

[George Cumby]

I remember when all you fuckers loved Rodgers. :lol:

We all thought you were just being an overly-sensitive/dramatic Mexican.

Turns out you were right all along.

[Joemailman]

One year ago today.

Clear the runway: Aaron Rodgers is preparing to land in New York as the newest Jet.

Green Bay and New York are finalizing a trade to send the four-time NFL MVP to the Jets, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero reported on Monday.

The Jets receive Rodgers, the Packers' 2023 first-round pick (No. 15 overall) and a fifth-round pick (No. 170) in exchange for New York's 2023 first-rounder (No. 13), 2023 second-round (No. 42) and sixth-round (No. 207) picks, as well as a conditional 2024 second-round selection that could become a first if Rodgers plays in at least 65 percent of the Jets' snaps this year.

[run pMc]

Rodgers is a good QB but a total tool. I think fans loved Rodgers before all the weird stuff came out. Many fans saw Russell Wilson and his nanobubbles and Cam Newton with... whatever, and Michael Vick with his dogs and were willing to overlook Rodgers weirdness.
Being a jerk isn't against the law.

Joe Douglas was recently asked if he'd do the trade again and he said he would 15 out of 10 times. I find that funny; Rodgers has turned that team into a circus and probably has one year left in him. 2023 Jordan Love outplayed 2022 Rodgers and did it with a bunch of rookie receivers (and without Aaron Jones for half the season).

Rodgers was also recently spouting a conspiracy theory long debunked.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-3169117/Aaron-Rodgers-claims-HIV-created-government.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Denver

I'm becoming more convinced that he's got CTE and is a public hazard if given a platform and a microphone.

[MadScientist]

I wonder if his believing in these looney ideas are related to his psychedelic usage:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/02/psychedelic-drug-therapy-effects-brain-neuroplasticity/672910/


The thing is, all those changes aren’t necessarily all good. Neuroplasticity just means that your brain—and your mind—is put into a state where it is more easily influenced. The effect is a bit like putting a glass vase back into the kiln, which makes it pliable and easy to reshape. Of course you can make the vase more functional and beautiful, but you might also turn it into a mess. Above all else, psychedelics make us exquisitely impressionable, thanks to their speed of action and magnitude of effect, though their ultimate effect is still heavily dependent on context and influence.

[Frozen Tundra]

I wonder if his believing in these looney ideas are related to his psychedelic usage:
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2023/02/psychedelic-drug-therapy-effects-brain-neuroplasticity/672910/

I know a lot about psychedilcs, and I wouldn't rule it out. I'm not sure just how forthcoming he's been about his usage patterns, but the fact that he's gone on multiple multi-day ayahuasca retreats, speaks frequently about mysterious friends who are deeply into all sorts of out-there "new age-y"theories and philosophies, and seems to suggest that he uses psilocybin frequently and in fairly large doses all make it sound pretty plausible to me. If he's doing multi-day darkness retreats and multi-day psychedelic experiences, that means he's likely getting way, way, wa-a-a-ay inside his head at times when his mind is pretty malleable, and if (once he gets all the way in there) he's spending a lot of time thinking about the odd theories of his new age friends, there's no telling what the inside of his mind looks like anymore.

[MadtownPacker]

Unsurprisingly people try to blame the drugs. He was always a shit human being. You just didn’t care when he threw a ridiculous amount of TDs and yards.

[texaspackerbacker]

You, MadTown, are almost certainly the ONLY one in here who can really comment on what the guy is like as a person because you almost certainly are the ONLY one in here to have any personal interaction with him.

Everybody else is merely believing shit spewed by God damned media shitheads doing their damnedest to stir up trouble. Myself, I really don't know either, but your last line about not caring as long as he was performing in a GOAT-like way for the Packers, THAT is absolutely my perspective about him. Now that he's somebody else's QB, I really don't give a shit at all.

As for the supposedly weird things he supposedly said, don't discount the distinct possibility that he was just messing with those stupid media pukes.

[Fritz]

Unsurprisingly people try to blame the drugs. He was always a shit human being. You just didn’t care when he threw a ridiculous amount of TDs and yards.

Yeah, but now he's a WEIRD shit human being.

[Fosco33]

You guys sure talk a lot about someone you don’t like.

He’ll still go down as one of the best to play the game and arguably the best Packer.

And there are a fair amount of people who don’t think he’s crazy or shitty.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers is a good QB but a total tool. I think fans loved Rodgers before all the weird stuff came out. Many fans saw Russell Wilson and his nanobubbles and Cam Newton with... whatever, and Michael Vick with his dogs and were willing to overlook Rodgers weirdness.
Being a jerk isn't against the law.

Joe Douglas was recently asked if he'd do the trade again and he said he would 15 out of 10 times. I find that funny; Rodgers has turned that team into a circus and probably has one year left in him. 2023 Jordan Love outplayed 2022 Rodgers and did it with a bunch of rookie receivers (and without Aaron Jones for half the season).

Rodgers was also recently spouting a conspiracy theory long debunked.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/sport/video-3169117/Aaron-Rodgers-claims-HIV-created-government.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Denver

I'm becoming more convinced that he's got CTE and is a public hazard if given a platform and a microphone.

Oh run, do you really have to inject politics into this thread? Lets bring this one to FYI so I can thump it like it deserves. In the meantime, please don't tempt me to get banned on the morning of the draft.

[bobblehead]

Unsurprisingly people try to blame the drugs. He was always a shit human being. You just didn’t care when he threw a ridiculous amount of TDs and yards.

Except you are blaming the drugs for him saying something he never actually said. A headline isn't a quote, and mad, you of all people should realize this belongs in FYI.

[bobblehead]

You guys sure talk a lot about someone you don’t like.

He’ll still go down as one of the best to play the game and arguably the best Packer.

And there are a fair amount of people who don’t think he’s crazy or shitty.

Agreed. I think he is different for sure. I think he has a chip on his shoulder. I think he pushes the edge on some things and then a quote gets taken out of context. Most of all I think some people never learn about injecting politics into the football forum and I don't get to respond properly because I'll get banned.

Rodgers was a great QB for us, but now he is a Jet. Bye Felicia, was nice watching you but you gone.

[run pMc]

Oh run, do you really have to inject politics into this thread? Lets bring this one to FYI so I can thump it like it deserves. In the meantime, please don't tempt me to get banned on the morning of the draft.

yeah fair point. lol my bad.


Rodgers was a great QB for us, but now he is a Jet. Bye Felicia, was nice watching you but you gone.
Agree with this too.

I enjoyed watching Rodgers and he had some otherwordly seasons, but those days are long gone.
Favre was incredible for us and he's basically unmentionable to some now because of off-field stuff.

Love the player, strongly dislike the person's words/actions off the field. As a fan of the team, that's ok. Not a Packer now, he can take his crazy to the Jets.

[Fosco33]

So maybe let’s not idolize athletes at all… and learn that Love might be great on the field and a dick elsewhere too…

[run pMc]

So maybe let’s not idolize athletes at all… and learn that Love might be great on the field and a dick elsewhere too…

agree, and I don't. The NFL is full of bad people, and that isn't unique to the NFL.

[MadtownPacker]

Except you are blaming the drugs for him saying something he never actually said. A headline isn't a quote, and mad, you of all people should realize this belongs in FYI.I was getting a reply ready for him but since he is not a repeat offender like Tex or you he got off light. I do appreciate you being my CI, been looking for one.

[sharpe1027]

So maybe let’s not idolize athletes at all
Whoa! Just stop with the crazy talk.

[Scott Campbell]

I remember when all you fuckers loved Rodgers. :lol:

I remember when he was somewhat loveable.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I remember when he was somewhat loveable.

Not a lot of jocks will push someone’s grandma across an airport, a la Aaron Jones. In fact, a lot of jocks are pompous motherfuckers. Hell, Bill Schroeder once refused to sign an autograph for teenage me unless I shell out $20 for a Packers swimming suit calendar. The Packers lack female cheerleaders. Told Schroeder I ain’t gay and have no use for a calendar full of half-naked men.

Much like ole Fosco, I have grown fond of Butte.

[Frozen Tundra]

Hell, Bill Schroeder once refused to sign an autograph for teenage me unless I shell out $20 for a Packers swimming suit calendar. The Packers lack female cheerleaders. Told Schroeder I ain’t gay and have no use for a calendar full of half-naked men.



:worship:

I wouldn't be surprised if that's a story he still tells, 30 years later. :razz:

[RashanGary]

You guys sure talk a lot about someone you don’t like.

He’ll still go down as one of the best to play the game and arguably the best Packer.

And there are a fair amount of people who don’t think he’s crazy or shitty.

There was a clip of him throwing behind garret wilson a few days ago and packer fans had to chime in that it was behind him. But the efficiency that he has when he uncorks the ball was a thing of beauty. Count me out of the hater list. Plus I love acid and psychadelics and odd ball thinking so I like the off field stuff too.

[Fritz]

Damn I was hoping the Jest would take JJ McCarthy.

Or at least a defensive player.

[bobblehead]

I was getting a reply ready for him but since he is not a repeat offender like Tex or you he got off light. I do appreciate you being my CI, been looking for one.

I'm just trying to dodge temptation and ruin the 20 minutes a morning I enjoy here.

[Joemailman]

Matt Schneidman
@mattschneidman

Aaron Rodgers broke his thumb in the Week 5 London game at Tottenham in 2022 and he’s playing in the Week 5 London game at Tottenham again.

He tore his Achilles in the Week 1 MNF game in 2023 and he’s playing in the Week 1 MNF game again.

NFL might just be screwing with him.

[MadtownPacker]

And against his NFC nemesis!!

[Sparkey]

I was getting a reply ready for him but since he is not a repeat offender like Tex or you he got off light. I do appreciate you being my CI, been looking for one.
Haha, crown him the snitch rat.

[Joemailman]

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- New York Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers and edge rusher Haason Reddick are skipping the team's mandatory two-day minicamp, the team announced Tuesday. Both absences are unexcused, meaning both players are subject to fines.

Reddick's no-show, not entirely unexpected, escalates a contract dispute between the Jets and their biggest offseason addition. Rodgers took the required physical and participated in the team's media day, both on Monday, before leaving town.

"Aaron and I spoke before OTAs started," coach Robert Saleh said. "He's very good in communication. He's been here the entire time. It's unexcused, but he had an event that was very important to him, which he communicated."

[bobblehead]

As my wife's ex said to me. "She's your problem now". Amend for gender and its how I feel about this news. Thanks for the memories. Good luck being a Jet.

[Scott Campbell]

Saleh has to put a face saving spin on this, but I suspect he is pissed. It’s tough to run a good minicamp without your starting QB.

[Joemailman]

I'll bet Matt LaFleur likes his job more than Saleh likes his.

[Fritz]

I'll bet Matt LaFleur likes his job more than Saleh likes his.

I wonder if LeFleur likes his quarterback more than Saleh likes his.

[MadtownPacker]

Interesting how he says “good in communicating” as if they are equals at work or in the relationship. Sounds more like “Erin is nice enough to tell me what he is going to do”.

[sharpe1027]

Interesting how he says “good in communicating” as if they are equals at work or in the relationship. Sounds more like “Erin is nice enough to tell me what he is going to do”.

Speaks volumes of where the expectations are. He's doing what're he wants but it's okay because he's telling us when he decides to ignore the rules everyone else needs to follow.

[MadtownPacker]

Yep, A-Rons gonna A-Ron regardless. Homeboy better come out firing TDs though cuz shit will get ugly this year.

[bobblehead]

Interesting how he says “good in communicating” as if they are equals at work or in the relationship. Sounds more like “Erin is nice enough to tell me what he is going to do”.

Its a nice way of saying "he told me no way he was gonna be here instead of just not showing up"

[Scott Campbell]

I think the soul crushing weight of his $40M dead money cap hit last season was the 2nd largest in NFL history. Today it feels like such a tremendous value.

[run pMc]

Yeah, it feels like GB got the better of the trade. I don't miss the McAfee nonsense and all his offseason weirdness. Oh, and the on-field body language. The TV coverage would go to Rodgers every time for a reaction to a play. Was annoying after a while.

Maybe he feels like he doesn't get anything out of minicamp practices, but I'd think his teammates would. Agree the media and fans will not be nearly as kind to him this year, especially if he doesn't play well.

Meh, he's a distraction and a hypocrite, but he's also someone else's problem. Without him GB feels like it's out from under a shadow, and a fun team to root for again.

[MadScientist]

One year of playing the good teammate is Rodgers max. Hard to disagree that the Packers got the better of the deal since Rodgers completed all of 0 passes last year. If the Jets still have their tackles do cut blocks on quick passes, he won't do much better this year. I still don't know how on earth Hackett allowed this after spending three years watching Rodgers hold the ball looking for the perfect play.

[Scott Campbell]

One year of playing the good teammate is Rodgers max. Hard to disagree that the Packers got the better of the deal since Rodgers completed all of 0 passes last year. If the Jets still have their tackles do cut blocks on quick passes, he won't do much better this year. I still don't know how on earth Hackett allowed this after spending three years watching Rodgers hold the ball looking for the perfect play.


Dude made a lot of great throws by extending plays as a 30 year old running away from 25 year olds. It’s a little different as a 40 year old running away from 25 year olds.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that Rodgers has a great season for the Jets this year. I'm not gonna predict the Packers meet the Jets in the Super Bowl, but it wouldn't surprise me.Those conspiracy people who think it's all rigged would go crazy if that happened.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Saleh has to put a face saving spin on this, but I suspect he is pissed. It’s tough to run a good minicamp without your starting QB.

Cue Iverson.

Minicamp? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! Minicamp. Not a regular season practice. Not even a lame training camp practice. Minicamp!

[Scott Campbell]

Cue Iverson.

Minicamp? Are you fucking kidding me?!?! Minicamp. Not a regular season practice. Not even a lame training camp practice. Minicamp!


Great player. Great analogy. Legendary diva.

How many rings did that guy win?

[Fritz]

Yeah, it feels like GB got the better of the trade. I don't miss the McAfee nonsense and all his offseason weirdness. Oh, and the on-field body language. The TV coverage would go to Rodgers every time for a reaction to a play. Was annoying after a while.

Maybe he feels like he doesn't get anything out of minicamp practices, but I'd think his teammates would. Agree the media and fans will not be nearly as kind to him this year, especially if he doesn't play well.

Meh, he's a distraction and a hypocrite, but he's also someone else's problem. Without him GB feels like it's out from under a shadow, and a fun team to root for again.

Agree here, for sure. And I do think the Packers got the better of that trade. I don't miss any of Rodgers's antics.

I also wonder - forum clown that I am - if, as incredible as Rodgers's arm was and his ability to see the whole field (even if he didn't want to throw into the middle of it), he didn't, in some ways, drag the Packers down. Once it became the "Aaron Show and Nobody Else," not entirely through Rodgers's fault, the team always seemed to be waiting for him to do something or to tell them what to do. The offense seemed, often, to get bogged down. There was no rhythm to the offense, at all. Just bogged down play after bogged down play, then Rodgers throwing a strike to Adams for the first down, then rinse and repeat until the whole thing got bogged down near the red zone. Not all his doing, as I said - but some of it was, with the eye-rolling and the Mason-level mystery signals at the line of scrimmage.

Now the whole team seems to be taking responsibility. Like, it's a team again, and not Aaron-Rodgers-and-everybody-else.

I don't know how long that will last, but I am enjoying rooting for this version of the Packers more than the last four or so years of Rodgers here, MVP's and all.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Great player. Great analogy. Legendary diva.

How many rings did that guy win?

As many as your boi, John Stockton, won, I think.

[MadtownPacker]

Stockton did do what Iverson did and more. Made it the Finals many times but never won. Taking out the Lakers many times to get there. Same Lakers that later 4-1ed Iverson in the Finals. Malone and him just happen to have to play against some of the greatest teams in NBA history.

For Tank:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLsTskih7_I

[bobblehead]

Yeah, it feels like GB got the better of the trade. I don't miss the McAfee nonsense and all his offseason weirdness. Oh, and the on-field body language. The TV coverage would go to Rodgers every time for a reaction to a play. Was annoying after a while.

Maybe he feels like he doesn't get anything out of minicamp practices, but I'd think his teammates would. Agree the media and fans will not be nearly as kind to him this year, especially if he doesn't play well.

Meh, he's a distraction and a hypocrite, but he's also someone else's problem. Without him GB feels like it's out from under a shadow, and a fun team to root for again.

Honestly I wouldn't care if he went to the roof of the chrysler building and swung his junk in the wind if he would win in the playoffs. And although its not all his fault, he didn't play his best under the brightest lights. The fact that we were suffering disappointing season enders every year is why I was glad to move on. The rest is just noise. If the Jests win the Owl this year I bet Saleh doesn't care if Erin decided the hookah lounge was more important than camp.

[bobblehead]

Dude made a lot of great throws by extending plays as a 30 year old running away from 25 year olds. It’s a little different as a 40 year old running away from 25 year olds.

The same applies in reverse when its a 30 year old bobble chasing 25 year old hotties vs. a 40 year old bobble doing the same.

[sharpe1027]

The same applies in reverse when its a 30 year old bobble chasing 25 year old hotties vs. a 40 year old bobble doing the same.

There's a huge cringe factor for just one of these examples.

[Fritz]

I dunno. Depends on what Bobble looks like and how much money he’s got. I have a very wealthy, recently divorced cousin who is 51 years old but looks great and works out all the time. Good looking guy. He’s got 35-year-old hot, hot milfs sending him nudes all the time. They all want him to A) fuck their brains out, and B) be the (very wealthy) daddy to their kids.

So maybe Bobble’s set up for that same level of success, if you want to call it that.

[Scott Campbell]

As many as your boi, John Stockton, won, I think.


Not much of a fan of him anymore.

[Scott Campbell]

I dunno. Depends on what Bobble looks like and how much money he’s got. I have a very wealthy, recently divorced cousin who is 51 years old but looks great and works out all the time. Good looking guy. He’s got 35-year-old hot, hot milfs sending him nudes all the time. They all want him to A) fuck their brains out, and B) be the (very wealthy) daddy to their kids.



Or he's being catfished.

[sharpe1027]

I dunno. Depends on what Bobble looks like and how much money he’s got. I have a very wealthy, recently divorced cousin who is 51 years old but looks great and works out all the time. Good looking guy. He’s got 35-year-old hot, hot milfs sending him nudes all the time. They all want him to A) fuck their brains out, and B) be the (very wealthy) daddy to their kids.

So maybe Bobble’s set up for that same level of success, if you want to call it that.

There's an important difference between chasing and being chased.

[Fritz]

Not much of a fan of him anymore.

Why is that? I don't keep up on basketball, so I don't know if something's changed with Stockton, or if you're just evaluating him differently than you used to.

[MadtownPacker]

Is he in his dark room smiling and thinking of all the Packers fans who talked shit after week 1 last year?

[Fritz]

He’s a believer in karma.

[ThunderDan]

Is he in his dark room smiling and thinking of all the Packers fans who talked shit after week 1 last year?

I doubt it.

That is the kind of karma thinking that gets you hurt in week 1 also this season.

[bobblehead]

Is he in his dark room smiling and thinking of all the Packers fans who talked shit after week 1 last year?

I wasn't happy at all that he got hurt....cost us major draft capital. But yea, for those who were haters, this karma goes down bitter.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers now with 24 consecutive starts without 300 yards passing.

[MadtownPacker]

I wasn't happy at all that he got hurt....cost us major draft capital. But yea, for those who were haters, this karma goes down bitter.You know how I feel about him and I also was mad he got hurt. I had looked forward to following his season and will be following this one. Last night is likely the last game I root for him. He does still have the gun so you never know. Might at least contend for the last wild card.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers completed passes to 3 different receivers Monday night. Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson and Lazard.

[Fritz]

Rodgers completed passes to 3 different receivers Monday night. Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson and Lazard.

Shocking.

But that's because those other receivers have to earn his trust! Gotta learn all the nuances of head-nods and finger shakes and foot flicks that indicate the entire play has been changed with two seconds left on the play clock. By golly, those other receivers have to earn the trust!

Though I was actually surprised to see him throw the ball once into the middle of the field.

[bobblehead]

You know how I feel about him and I also was mad he got hurt. I had looked forward to following his season and will be following this one. Last night is likely the last game I root for him. He does still have the gun so you never know. Might at least contend for the last wild card.

I think they will be in the thick of it. Week 1 is a poor indicator. That wasn't the Jets defense I watched the last 2 years.

[Patler]

Rodgers now with 24 consecutive starts without 300 yards passing.

Kind of an interesting stat. Even Justin Fields has had a 300 yard game in his last 24 starts.

[MadtownPacker]

Kind of an interesting stat. Even Justin Fields has had a 300 yard game in his last 24 starts.
Did Erron beat him during the streak?

[red]

Did Erron beat him during the streak?

what else do you do during a darkness retreat?

[Patler]

Kind of an interesting stat. Even Justin Fields has had a 300 yard game in his last 24 starts.


Did Erron beat him during the streak?

I'm not aware of Rodgers having beaten Fields in any competition of any sort. However, Rodgers team did beat Fields team in football.

[Fritz]

Patler, you know I think you're great, but I think your grasp of the facts is slipping a little. It is common knowledge that Rodgers AND Fields competed in the 2023 International Ayahuasca Championship held in Bogota, Columbia. Rodgers cleaned the floor with Fields. It wasn't even close. Rodgers was trippin' outer space stuff, seeing God, surfing the galaxy, but all Fields could do is conjure up a field of summer daisies haunted by The Thin Man.

[MadtownPacker]

No me gusta Rodgers but like I expected he still has something in the tank. Probably be his last season so we should root for him to win the vikings, cardinals, seahawks and rams games the jets have coming up. All potential playoff teams that Santo Eron could provide help on. So get your ayahuasca ready when you come out of the darkness.

[run pMc]

That was his best game in years. He's got some good skill players around him, they could make some hay. Beating the Pats isn't a monumental accomplishment - they are in serious rebuild mode. I suspect Buffalo or Miami will pose a bigger challenge, and the NFCW games aren't gimmes.
Either way, good for him for having a good game. It makes the AFCE interesting, but as a GB fan I'm glad to be rid of Rodgers-drama.

Maybe I'm being a curmudgeon, but I also have serious doubts about his ability to play well and stay healthy once the weather turns cold (at his age).

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapaport reporting that Davante Adams to the Jets is finally happening. Raiders will get a conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Ian Rapaport reporting that Davante Adams to the Jets is finally happening. Raiders will get a conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd.

All-in.

[Fritz]

Ian Rapaport reporting that Davante Adams to the Jets is finally happening. Raiders will get a conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41809130/jets-finalizing-trade-raiders-wr-davante-adams-sources-say

There it is.

And there go the targets for the other Jets' receivers.

This is a desperation move at this point, but one that's understandable. When the Jest traded for Rodgers and signed Cobb and Lazard, they were putting all their money on the table for the chance to make a run, starting last year and probably through this year and next. The owner, Woody Johnson, is 77 years old and probably doesn't want to wait for a rebuild.

To me, it's a losing formula, but for the owner, it's a shot at what he wants, so he's rolling those dice. I'm not sure the Jets' problems can be encapsulated by "If only Aaron had his favorite reciever with him in New York!" Having watched the last year or two in GB with Rodgers, this is just more of the same, except Rodgers is two years older now.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41809130/jets-finalizing-trade-raiders-wr-davante-adams-sources-say

There it is.

And there go the targets for the other Jets' receivers.

This is a desperation move at this point, but one that's understandable. When the Jest traded for Rodgers and signed Cobb and Lazard, they were putting all their money on the table for the chance to make a run, starting last year and probably through this year and next. The owner, Woody Johnson, is 77 years old and probably doesn't want to wait for a rebuild.

To me, it's a losing formula, but for the owner, it's a shot at what he wants, so he's rolling those dice. I'm not sure the Jets' problems can be encapsulated by "If only Aaron had his favorite reciever with him in New York!" Having watched the last year or two in GB with Rodgers, this is just more of the same, except Rodgers is two years older now.

Jester’s #2 rock catcher is Alan Fucking Lazard, a glorified TE. Adams will help their offense immensely.

Jesters-Packers in Super Bowl 59. Take it to your bookie.

[Guiness]

Just...wow. Reports are it's a 3rd, that could become a 2nd. Given it's likely this is a rental for the rest of the season that seems pretty high. Adams cap number jumps to 35M next season, I can't see the Jets wanting to/being able to carry that number and would be surprised if Adams gave up money to stick around.

[Joemailman]

Just...wow. Reports are it's a 3rd, that could become a 2nd. Given it's likely this is a rental for the rest of the season that seems pretty high. Adams cap number jumps to 35M next season, I can't see the Jets wanting to/being able to carry that number and would be surprised if Adams gave up money to stick around.

This would seem to indicate that they restructured Adams' contract to lower the cap hit for the Jets the next couple of years.

The Jets are assuming the balance of Adams' remaining salary, a source told Schefter. Adams' salary for this season is $17.5 million, with approximately $11.59 million still owed through the end of the season, according to Spotrac.com. And while he is under contract for 2025 and 2026, his annual salary jumps to $36.25 million for each of those seasons. The Raiders will carry a dead cap charge of $13.67 million in 2024, according to Spotrac.com, and $15.7 million in 2025.

[CaptainKickass]

Four career Hail Mary TD's by Aaron Rodgers

Previous receivers:
Richard Rodgers
Jeff Janis
Randall Cobb

And last night, the 4th HMTD to:
Allen Lazard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inxshKqtdlQ

[bobblehead]

Ian Rapaport reporting that Davante Adams to the Jets is finally happening. Raiders will get a conditional 3rd round pick that could become a 2nd.

WE'RE GETTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER BOYS!!!

[bobblehead]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41809130/jets-finalizing-trade-raiders-wr-davante-adams-sources-say

There it is.

And there go the targets for the other Jets' receivers.

This is a desperation move at this point, but one that's understandable. When the Jest traded for Rodgers and signed Cobb and Lazard, they were putting all their money on the table for the chance to make a run, starting last year and probably through this year and next. The owner, Woody Johnson, is 77 years old and probably doesn't want to wait for a rebuild.

To me, it's a losing formula, but for the owner, it's a shot at what he wants, so he's rolling those dice. I'm not sure the Jets' problems can be encapsulated by "If only Aaron had his favorite reciever with him in New York!" Having watched the last year or two in GB with Rodgers, this is just more of the same, except Rodgers is two years older now.

Sort of agree. Trading for some OL help would have probably benefited them a lot more than a WR who is also past his prime. Although Tex would argue saying OL play isn't important. (I bet right about now Erin disagrees with tex on that fact and on how good Bak was.)

[run pMc]

Of course OL matters. And this is absolutely a weird desperation move. I don't think WR talent is the problem in Florham Park.

This makes a lot of sense (Adams wanted a trade, LV needed to get something for him), but it also makes no sense and perfectly explains why teams like NYJ and LV are usually bad.

Next year they'll have Rodgers, Garrett Wilson, Adams, Lazard, Hall, etc. there and hire some hotshot like Ben Johnson... and then ignore the OL again, get Rodgers killed and still stink because they have to play a backup QB like Brett Rypien for half the season.

Also - Rodgers came very close to breaking 300 yards! That Hail Mary sure helped his numbers.

[Fritz]

Ben Johnson's probably going to be a hot commodity, and it's hard to imagine anyone in his position would want that mess. You're stuck with an aging Rodgers who wants to run the offense HE wants to run, weird-fitting pieces, and a now unpredictable, impatient owner.

[RandsRevenge]

That was a remarkable game. I counted the Jets losing it five separate times, yet remaining in there. Two very fine throws and very fine catches by Jets receivers, one for an apparent TD, another down the middle of the field late, were taken away with very hard hits from defenders. Good throws, good catches, better defense. Two very makable FGs off uprights by the strong-legged but streaky Z-Uihlein (he delivers fast and hard, but late). Countless errors on defense, including not respecting the possibility of a QB keeper on a critical third and short. I mean, it's not a Troy Aikman statue back there.

That Jets team is good enough in talent to make the playoffs, maybe even win that division as it looks today. But you can't lose Division games at home like that.

As a fan, I'd be happy if they weren't my team. Too frustrating to watch.

Meanwhile, the Bills have regressed to the mean a bit. The talent looks weaker over there.

[run pMc]

I think losing Diggs and Gabe Davis hurt them a bit, and they have lost some other players and gotten older. They are still a good team and should be expected to win the AFCE with Miami being as they are.

The Jets are a maddening team, agree they have lots of talent and beat themselves. I don't think Saleh was a bad coach, I suspect he had a lot of cultural stuff to fight as well. I'm not sure Rodgers and Hackett are going to help that a lot. They have playmakers on O and a good defense, but they need to figure out their OL and the coaching there. I suspect there is quite a bit of ownership meddling... I am very grateful the Packers don't have that.

[NewsBruin]

Of course OL matters. And this is absolutely a weird desperation move. I don't think WR talent is the problem in Florham Park.

This makes a lot of sense (Adams wanted a trade, LV needed to get something for him), but it also makes no sense and perfectly explains why teams like NYJ and LV are usually bad.

Next year they'll have Rodgers, Garrett Wilson, Adams, Lazard, Hall, etc. there and hire some hotshot like Ben Johnson... and then ignore the OL again, get Rodgers killed and still stink because they have to play a backup QB like Brett Rypien for half the season.

Also - Rodgers came very close to breaking 300 yards! That Hail Mary sure helped his numbers.

As not an AFC East fan, this looks like the owner or GM playing Madden and wanting to make moves because they look cool.

Fire the head coach? Likely looking to next year.
Trading for a previously-top WR to pair with your previously-top QB? Win now.
Giving a quality DL permission to seek a trade? Likely looking to next year.

I don't know what kind of shape Aaron and Davante will be next year, but it won't be as good as their best Packer seasons.

[Joemailman]

WE'RE GETTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER BOYS!!!

Is this a tweet from Randall Cobb?

[run pMc]

As not an AFC East fan, this looks like the owner or GM playing Madden and wanting to make moves because they look cool.

Fire the head coach? Likely looking to next year.
Trading for a previously-top WR to pair with your previously-top QB? Win now.
Giving a quality DL permission to seek a trade? Likely looking to next year.

I don't know what kind of shape Aaron and Davante will be next year, but it won't be as good as their best Packer seasons.

Agree it feels like someone playing Madden.
Rumor is they are shopping WR Mike Williams, who slipped after not "being on the same page" as Rodgers on the interception that sealed the game vs BUF. Was interesting - after the game Rodgers more or less blamed Williams and the route vs. his throw. A lot of QBs will just say they need to make a better throw and leave it there, but Rodgers ain't got time for that diplomacy or leadership stuff. I can't imagine him playing with GB's receivers last year LMAO.

The Jets are a collection of good players who don't play good together as a team.

[Fritz]

Agree it feels like someone playing Madden.
Rumor is they are shopping WR Mike Williams, who slipped after not "being on the same page" as Rodgers on the interception that sealed the game vs BUF. Was interesting - after the game Rodgers more or less blamed Williams and the route vs. his throw. A lot of QBs will just say they need to make a better throw and leave it there, but Rodgers ain't got time for that diplomacy or leadership stuff. I can't imagine him playing with GB's receivers last year LMAO.

The Jets are a collection of good players who don't play good together as a team.

My god. How shocking.

That whole culture is ugly over there. The sum of the parts is less than what it ought to be.

That wouldn't have anything to do with Karen, though.

[red]

i just saw the video of him throwing williams under the bus

just wow

said he was going to throw to lazard, but he was triple covered. so in his awesomness, he decided to throw a no look 40 yard pass to williams. but jesus saw out of the corner of his eye that williams wasn't running the right route. so jesus had to adjust at the last second (causing the ball that was thrown into double coverage to come up way short, making williams slip trying to get back to it)

if williams hadn't slipped he wouldn't have even gotten a hand on the ball since it was such a shitty throw

and now williams is being traded

sounds like jets fans are starting to catch on to his bullshit though

so glad he's not our mess anymore

the video is on this page

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/aaron-rodgers-throws-jets-teammate-under-the-bus-as-hc-jeff-ulrich-reflects-on-playoff-hopes/ar-AA1shhAv?ocid=ML236B

[MadtownPacker]

I think the throw was good. Williams got lost.

Sounds like I’m gonna have to catch some jets games now. This all is too much fun to miss.

[Joemailman]

i just saw the video of him throwing williams under the bus

just wow

said he was going to throw to lazard, but he was triple covered. so in his awesomness, he decided to throw a no look 40 yard pass to williams. but jesus saw out of the corner of his eye that williams wasn't running the right route. so jesus had to adjust at the last second (causing the ball that was thrown into double coverage to come up way short, making williams slip trying to get back to it)

if williams hadn't slipped he wouldn't have even gotten a hand on the ball since it was such a shitty throw

and now williams is being traded

sounds like jets fans are starting to catch on to his bullshit though

so glad he's not our mess anymore

the video is on this page

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/aaron-rodgers-throws-jets-teammate-under-the-bus-as-hc-jeff-ulrich-reflects-on-playoff-hopes/ar-AA1shhAv?ocid=ML236B

Who triple covers Lazard?:doh:

[NewsBruin]

My god. How shocking.
That wouldn't have anything to do with Karen, though.

It's not his fault the coaches couldn't get his receivers ready during mandatory minicamps. Do you expect Aaron to do everything himself?

[CaptainKickass]

Who triple covers Lazard?:doh:

I agree it's not necessary but In all fairness, Allen Lazard DID haul in the hail mary for the TD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6-hVhFAW9g) just before halftime. Might've made the DC a little over cautious.

I dunno.

[red]

Who triple covers Lazard?:doh:
he was triple covered and williams was double covered on the play

you would think others would be wide open

but as usual, karen was locked on to his one target

[sharpe1027]

he was triple covered and williams was double covered on the play

you would think others would be wide open

but as usual, karen was locked on to his one target

Jets probably used the other 8 players to protect Erin from a three man rush.

[Fritz]

Sandy Koufax famously retired at age 31 after going 27 - 9 in his final season, with a 1.73 ERA. He had traumatic arthritis, which meant he could have a permanent disability down the road - so he left the game.

I wish some of these older QB's would follow his lead. For every Tom Brady, there are a bunch of Rodgerses and Rothlisbergers hanging around, showing flashes of brilliance but mostly showing that time catches up to even the greatest.

[texaspackerbacker]

How many tens of millions $ does it take to outweigh the prospect of some vague distant future potential problem? I empathize a helluva lot more with the risk takers.

[run pMc]

Rodgers career earnngs are well north of $300M, approaching $400M. He's a shell of the QB he was 10 years ago, but that's not exactly a shocker. It's hard to hang up the cleats, I think it may take a bad injury or ugly half season to do it. It's not far off. Hes taken some vicious hits (by today's standards) behind that OL. Meanwhile, GB's OL has given up 8 sacks in 6 games.

Yeah, the press conference after was surprising, I guess I'd gotten used to QBs taking responsibility for picks or bad plays, not blaming your teammates. Do not miss that circus. The NY media much eat that up.

[MadtownPacker]

Here you go Guiness. AARon central.

[Guiness]

Here you go Guiness. AARon central.

Touché. I should have looked beyond the first page of threads

[MadtownPacker]

While Rodgers was a prick he will always be a Packers champion. Just like Favre he has a memorial here at PR. :lol:

[Guiness]

If Love goes on to win a Super Bowl and has a first ballot hall of fame career, I call dibs on starting his living legend thread in ~2034!

[bobblehead]

I can't watch the Jets. I'm not the guy who slows down to see the wreck on the side of the road since I was 17. Driving down 29 I slowed like every rubber necking idiot to see the commotion. A guy (assuming it was a guy) on a motorcycle had taken an atrocious spill. He was a busted up bloody mess. Its been a lot of years, but that image is still stained into my brain. Now I keep my eyes forward and drive on by without being curious. I won't be catching many Jets games this year.

[NewsBruin]

Posting here because I'm not industrious enough to start a Week 14 thread:

I've always wanted to say that I believe Pick-6s are less about a quarterback's quality of play and more dependent on personnel and playcall. The only thing I think is more on the QB's shoulders is to realize in that formation, there's no "cover 2" help from running back or flankers if he tries to force a throw -- so don't try to force a dang throw in a non-critical drive.

Rodgers had an empty backfield and 3 or 4 spread-out receivers. Even nimrods like me know that's going to be a short throw that's begging to be jumped. There was only one offensive player who had a chance of tackling the DB before he zoomed past the offensive line. But because 10 guys were nowhere near the dude with a head start in the other direction, Aaron Rodgers is an even worse quarterback than if someone tackled the DB.

[MadtownPacker]

Isn’t it week 13?

[King Friday]

Rodgers is now the Thanksgiving turkey with the built in thermometer, and it just popped out.

Time to take him out of the oven. He’s finished.

[Joemailman]

Jets coach was asked if he's contemplating making a change at QB. "Not as of today". Which might just mean he knows it's not his decision.

[Fritz]

Jets coach was asked if he's contemplating making a change at QB. "Not as of today". Which might just mean he knows it's not his decision.

Which franchise is sadder: The Jest or the Brownies? Or the Gints?

[RandsRevenge]

I was looking into doing the Survival game thing this past week. Unfortunately I didn't get picks in on time. I thought I was going to get Tampa/Carolina wrong, but Tampa found a way to win. Anywho, as I was assessing the Seattle-New Jersey game, I noticed that all five Jets lineman were on the injury report as questionable or doubtful. And these are the guys who weren't all that great begin with. That looked like a cluster, so I picked Seattle. Still, New Jersey put up a fight and like 5-6 other losses, almost won. Rodgers is throwing shorter, faster, and trying to get runs going, but it's a slog (only three QBs in the top 30 have a shorter pocket time - 2.3 sec). O-line matters, just ask SF (Williams) and the Vikings (resurrected Sam Darnold likes the time he has to throw - longest pocket time of any QB at 2.7sec average). Not to mention competent coaching. Rodgers has more yards than Love, but has almost no completions over 20 yards.

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-qb.php

[sharpe1027]

Which franchise is sadder: The Jest or the Brownies? Or the Gints?

I was thinking of a slight different question. Which made the biggest mistake at QB? Probably the Browns BUT all the shitty roster and coaching moves that came with Rodgers make it a closer call.

[Joemailman]

I was thinking of a slight different question. Which made the biggest mistake at QB? Probably the Browns BUT all the shitty roster and coaching moves that came with Rodgers make it a closer call.

The Giants signing Daniel Jones to a $160 million contract extension, and not drafting a QB last year has to be considered as well.

[George Cumby]

Rodgers is now the Thanksgiving turkey with the built in thermometer, and it just popped out.

Time to take him out of the oven. He’s finished.

*slow clap*

[Fosco33]

I won’t be shocked if he doesn’t finish the season.

[run pMc]

But some poster here is convinced he can play to 45 like Tawm Braydee did! lol

Rodgers turned 41 today and sure looks finished. Hasn't cracked 300 yards in 3 years and is struggling to crack 250 with Adams and Wilson and Hall at skill positions.
QBs get washed up because their legs go before their arms do - can't move well in the pocket or outrun those 23 year olds trying to kill you anymore.

The word is that the Jets don't want Rodgers back, even if he says he wants to be back. My guess is at the end of the season he makes some mysterious comments about his future, but with a new GM and HC coming in you can bet they will want to start over.
They went from Super Bowl aspirations to out of the playoffs by week 13, and they didn't have 49er bad injury luck as an excuse.

Watch Mark Davis throw money at Rodgers to play (poorly) for LV, maybe they can give back the pick to the Jets and take Adams too lol
Honestly, there aren't many good landing spots for Rodgers and I have to think most GMs (and sane owners) aren't going to want that mess.

[sharpe1027]

The Giants signing Daniel Jones to a $160 million contract extension, and not drafting a QB last year has to be considered as well.

Yeah, that's why I asked that question. All three messed up. I think Jones isn't as bad as the other two, but a case can be made.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

But some poster here is convinced he can play to 45 like Tawm Braydee did! lol

Rodgers turned 41 today and sure looks finished. Hasn't cracked 300 yards in 3 years and is struggling to crack 250 with Adams and Wilson and Hall at skill positions.
QBs get washed up because their legs go before their arms do - can't move well in the pocket or outrun those 23 year olds trying to kill you anymore.

The word is that the Jets don't want Rodgers back, even if he says he wants to be back. My guess is at the end of the season he makes some mysterious comments about his future, but with a new GM and HC coming in you can bet they will want to start over.
They went from Super Bowl aspirations to out of the playoffs by week 13, and they didn't have 49er bad injury luck as an excuse.

Watch Mark Davis throw money at Rodgers to play (poorly) for LV, maybe they can give back the pick to the Jets and take Adams too lol
Honestly, there aren't many good landing spots for Rodgers and I have to think most GMs (and sane owners) aren't going to want that mess.

In a QB-plagued league, Butte is still better than 80% of the bums out there. Every HOFmer has a down year. Butte’s just happens to be this year.

Logic indicates that Butte will end up playing for the Queens, Dog Farts (Browns), Lumpensteelers, Tyrants (Titans), Fishmongers (Seafucks), or should he opt for a prolonged “darkness” retreat til injuries inevitably strike, a Super Bowl contender.

If Butte is truthful about his ego death, he’ll sign with the Packers to backup the Lovemaker. I bet Packers could get a 2nd rounder for Good Willis Hunting.

[MadScientist]

He hasn't had an up year since 2021. Every HOFer also ages out.

[run pMc]

He hasn't had an up year since 2021. Every HOFer also ages out.

Came here to say this. The numbers don't lie. He's done. (Thankful for the Lombardi run, though. He was amazing in his heyday. But then....)
He had two MVP seasons with MLF, then decided he wanted to run an antiquated no-motion, run the clock to 0, McCarthy offense that doesn't work anymore. His throws are either 3 yards behind or past the LOS, it's garbage. But he knows better than everyone else though, so whatever. Any team lining up to sign a 41 year old QB is asking for trouble and a future top 10 draft pick.

As for who made the biggest mistake (NYJ, CLE, or NYG), I'd go with CLE. They gave up a lot of draft capital AND then gave a sex pest a fully guaranteed contract while litigation was ongoing. His injury history also wasn't great. Just a bad move all the way around, handicapped and handcuffed that team for a few seasons.
Next I'd say the Jets - they gave up a couple picks to get Rodgers and then doubled down by signing his buddies and trading for Adams. They'll take some cap hits to get under that contract.

The Jones contract was bad at the time it was offered, at least they didn't give up any picks to sign him. That they chose him over Saquon or McKinney is kind of hilarious and sad. I can't help think the owners and GMs are in such a media fishbowl in NYC that it impacts their decisions.

Trading valuable picks for the privilege to sign a player to a lucrative contract is generally bad process. QBs contracts are bonkers also, but this is the game the NFL wants -- if you have a QB, you have to pay them, otherwise you overpay for a bad one until you find a good one.

[MadtownPacker]

Poor Aron is just taking hits from all sides lately :lol:. Never thought there would be one of Rodgers chicks to dislike more than Yoko Munn…

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/shailene-woodley-spills-on-toxic-relationship-with-aaron-rodgers/

[MadScientist]

Poor Aron is just taking hits from all sides lately :lol:. Never thought there would be one of Rodgers chicks to dislike more than Yoko Munn…

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/shailene-woodley-spills-on-toxic-relationship-with-aaron-rodgers/

She knew she was depressed because she looked at a tree and felt nothing? Use your hands if you want to feel the tree.

[Fritz]

Poor Aron is just taking hits from all sides lately :lol:. Never thought there would be one of Rodgers chicks to dislike more than Yoko Munn…

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/shailene-woodley-spills-on-toxic-relationship-with-aaron-rodgers/

‘I had a really awful, traumatic thing happen in early 2022,” Woodley shared, notably not mentioning Rodgers’ name. “I felt like I lost my soul, my self, my happiness, my joy.”’

That’s how a lot of Packer fans felt about Rodgers‘s last season in Green Bay.

[MadtownPacker]

She knew she was depressed because she looked at a tree and felt nothing? Use your hands if you want to feel the tree.
It is a convoluted read. Not sure if she is has all her timelines in the correct order. It seems like she might not even be saying it was because of ARon. The boy sure can pick the crazy hot ones!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Can’t wait for “Enigma.” Netflix: 12.17.24

[Vincenzo]

Woodley seems like a nice girl but also a handful….all that emotion is just too much for a lot of men.

[Fosco33]

Rodgers broke his streak of non 300 yard games.

He and Love now both have 1 to their credit this season. Rodgers with more yards, one less TD and a few less INTs but worse QBR and of course the only thing that matters - Ws

[run pMc]

Rodgers broke his streak of non 300 yard games.

He and Love now both have 1 to their credit this season. Rodgers with more yards, one less TD and a few less INTs but worse QBR and of course the only thing that matters - Ws

Finally LOL

Rodgers has 2+ more games of QB play for his stats.
Rodgers-Love advanced stats comparison is pretty interesting on pro football reference.
Rodgers is basically a statue who throws short at this point. His pressure rate is almost the same as Love but has 20 more sacks on the year. Surprisingly he has a higher rate of "bad throws" whatever that means.

Rodgers was an amazing player at his peak, but he's far far away from that now. IF some team pays him to play next year, I wouldn't count on a bounceback year.

[Fritz]

The only way that could work is if Rodgers landed with a team that has a Detroit Lions-like offensive line. That’s why Goff is playing well - he’s pretty immobile, but with time to throw he can still look good. I think of Goff and Rodgers as being similar in that regard.

[run pMc]

The only way that could work is if Rodgers landed with a team that has a Detroit Lions-like offensive line. That’s why Goff is playing well - he’s pretty immobile, but with time to throw he can still look good. I think of Goff and Rodgers as being similar in that regard.

Well you're not wrong. Goff is 11 years younger though, less prickly about ... well, everything, and at least occasionally targets the middle of the field. Goff looks like a dweeb and he went to Cal, so they have that in common.

I can't really think of a team that fits the "needs a QB, has a very good OL" criteria. Usually it's a trash team that needs the QB, and they are trash because they have bad talent all over including the OL. Even a team flush with cap space would likely be overpaying for middling vets on the OL and Rodgers. Smart teams don't let good players (especially on the OL) walk.

[Fosco33]

Rodgers leading a drive w/ <2min to get into either long fg to take the lead or for the dagger. A meaningless game between 2 three win teams but imagine it could be one of his last games.

[Fosco33]

Ok - so they decided to score the TD with a min left instead of making Jax more time and timeouts. They can score a tying TD with a min and 2 timeouts. Kinda odd

[MadtownPacker]

Looks like the farewell tour for AaRon with the way other teams are shaking his hand.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm assuming he's not going to be a Jet next year. Is there another team that would be a logical landing place? Or is he gonna retire like this? Man, father time... It really sucks we never got the proper revenge tour. I think the injury stole his mobility.

[Joemailman]

I'm assuming he's not going to be a Jet next year. Is there another team that would be a logical landing place? Or is he gonna retire like this? Man, father time... It really sucks we never got the proper revenge tour. I think the injury stole his mobility.

I don't think there is. It would have to be a good team in need of a QB. I don't think that team exists unless Stafford retires. Vikings will likely bring Darnold back.

[australianpackerbacker]

I don't think there is. It would have to be a good team in need of a QB. I don't think that team exists unless Stafford retires. Vikings will likely bring Darnold back.

The only likely spot is 9ers

[beveaux1]

The only likely spot is 9ers

They don’t want him. Injuries and age have made him Vinnie Testeverde at the end of his career. He’d be a decent veteran back up at this point in his career, able to help a team for a few games if their starter is injured.

I really don’t think that’s what Rodgers wants to do.

[NewsBruin]

I could see him at veteran-minumum Flacco duty, if needed, but I can't imagine a sane and well-balanced GM spending the salary-cap space and young-QB development time to pay Rodgers anywhere near what he's earned in any season.

[MadScientist]

I could see him at veteran-minumum Flacco duty, if needed, but I can't imagine a sane and well-balanced GM spending the salary-cap space and young-QB development time to pay Rodgers anywhere near what he's earned in any season.

So you are saying he's going to the Bears.

[Fritz]

I don't think Rodgers's ego would allow him to be a backup, and maybe not even a stop-gap starter for a year - unless he's chasing stats.

[run pMc]

I don't think Rodgers's ego would allow him to be a backup, and maybe not even a stop-gap starter for a year - unless he's chasing stats.

He's got Tom Brady on one stat - most QB sacks.

Will be interesting to see what Woody decides, Rodgers still has an arm, but his legs are gone which impacts his accuracy and ability to move in the pocket. If he's released, he's a better Flacco if his head is screwed on straight. He's kind of radioactive with his personality and platform on McAfee to spout lies and nonsense. I have a hard time seeing him being open to being a backup. The QB draft class looks not great, but there will be several QBs hitting the market (Darnold, Cousins, Justin Fields, maybe Derek Carr and Daniel Jones?) It could be a case of musical chairs and Rodgers is the one without a chair. He could just sit tight until summer when some team has an injury or gets desperate.

[Joemailman]

Most of the country will be getting Miami at Jets on Fox late. Probably a meaningless game. Fox billing it as maybe Rodgers' last game?

[call_me_ishmael]

I definitely will watch at least some of it. Hard to make time for games these days at this stage of life, but I don't want to miss the last chance to see Aaron Charles Rodgers play. I think he's gonna be done.

[Fritz]

They will speculate and speculate and speculate, which is what much of modern sports coverage consists of.

[Joemailman]

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Former New York Jets coach Rex Ryan, scheduled to interview Tuesday for the team's head coaching vacancy, is convinced he will land the job.

If it happens, he says he will put an end to the Aaron Rodgers "country club."

Ryan, appearing Monday morning on ESPN New York radio, ripped the future Hall of Famer for skipping the team's mandatory minicamp last June to take a vacation to Egypt. He also criticized the organization's "abysmal" leadership for condoning it.

"Clearly, when you have a guy that doesn't show up for mandatory minicamp -- and, by the way, he's your quarterback, coming off an injury -- I think that's an absolutely ridiculous message you send to the team," Ryan said during a spot on the "DiPietro & Rothenberg Show."

"If he comes back, things would be different. If he's back, it ain't gonna be the country club, show up whenever the hell you want to show up. That ain't gonna happen. I'll just leave it at that," Ryan said.

[RandsRevenge]

Rex Ryan is really putting his foot down.

[run pMc]

Rodgers cracked 500 TDs, only 5 QBs have done so, 2 of them played for GB (Favre is the other). Noticably, none of the others played for an NFCN team lol

Rex Ryan was a good DC, an iffy HC, and is basically a talking head. Who cares what he thinks.

I think whether Rodgers "retires" depends on who Woody hires and whether they inform him they no longer want him back. I have a hard time thinking some team like LV or NYG want him at QB when there are other cheaper options. Also, he'll get murdered behind some of those OL.

[Joemailman]

I believe he will be a Steeler.

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets-Aaron Rodgers marriage appears to be ending after two disappointing seasons, as the future Hall of Fame quarterback is unlikely to remain with the team in 2025, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Sunday.

Rodgers, 41, flew to New Jersey last week to meet with new coach Aaron Glenn and new general manager Darren Mougey, a source confirmed to ESPN. Fox Sports reported Sunday that Rodgers was informed in that meeting that the team has decided to part ways with him.

A Jets spokesman declined to confirm the report.

Glenn has been in contact with Rodgers since he was hired, as part of an evolving discussion on the quarterback's future. Glenn was noncommittal on Rodgers at his introductory news conference on Jan. 27, saying he wanted to meet with him before choosing a direction at quarterback.

A formal announcement is likely in the coming days.

[Fritz]

I believe he will be a Steeler.

FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- The New York Jets-Aaron Rodgers marriage appears to be ending after two disappointing seasons, as the future Hall of Fame quarterback is unlikely to remain with the team in 2025, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Sunday.

Rodgers, 41, flew to New Jersey last week to meet with new coach Aaron Glenn and new general manager Darren Mougey, a source confirmed to ESPN. Fox Sports reported Sunday that Rodgers was informed in that meeting that the team has decided to part ways with him.

A Jets spokesman declined to confirm the report.

Glenn has been in contact with Rodgers since he was hired, as part of an evolving discussion on the quarterback's future. Glenn was noncommittal on Rodgers at his introductory news conference on Jan. 27, saying he wanted to meet with him before choosing a direction at quarterback.

A formal announcement is likely in the coming days.

So what makes you think he'll be a Steeler, Joe?

[Joemailman]

So what makes you think he'll be a Steeler, Joe?

They need a QB. They're not in a position to draft one. People have said Rodgers and Tomlin have a good relationship. They're good enough that Rodgers will think he can get them over the top.

[call_me_ishmael]

They need a QB. They're not in a position to draft one. People have said Rodgers and Tomlin have a good relationship. They're good enough that Rodgers will think he can get them over the top.

I really like that fit for Aaron. Hopefully he chills out and makes it less about himself. Good franchise, good coach, good owners. Not dissimilar to GB.

[pittstang5]

Oh I hope and pray he goes to the Steelers! That'll really piss off someone I know who is a huge Steeler fan. and I can just sit back an laugh

[CaptainKickass]

Sounds like the Jets didn't fully enjoy Aaron's weekly appearances on the internet and they called out McAfee specifically:


"When the Jets had conversations with him about a potential return, I was told that they set some boundaries," Russini said about the team's handling of Rodgers' future. "He’d have to attend all training camp practices, and he’d no longer be permitted to do his 'Pat McAfee Show' appearances.

From here (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jets-reportedly-gave-aaron-rodgers-ultimatums-before-offseason-decision/ar-AA1yQ1MQ?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=7c11d40af84b41799d33d2fe6ab114d3&ei=9)

[Joemailman]

Guess Aaron Glenn not a fan of the Aaron Rodgers Experience.

[run pMc]

Betting sites have the Steelers as the favorite landing spot for Rodgers at +200.
FWIW, teams like LV (who have Joe Philbin on staff) and TEN are also considered in the running. Even MIN lol.

If I were the GM or HC I wouldn't want an aging loose cannon who is polarizing and skips practices as the "face of the franchise QB". I especially wouldn't want that in the NYC media market.

GB comes out of that trade looking ok. What they got in draft picks hasn't turned out, so not great there, but getting rid of the toxicity and bad contract isn't nothing.

[Joemailman]

Betting sites have the Steelers as the favorite landing spot for Rodgers at +200.
FWIW, teams like LV (who have Joe Philbin on staff) and TEN are also considered in the running. Even MIN lol.

If I were the GM or HC I wouldn't want an aging loose cannon who is polarizing and skips practices as the "face of the franchise QB". I especially wouldn't want that in the NYC media market.

GB comes out of that trade looking ok. What they got in draft picks hasn't turned out, so not great there, but getting rid of the toxicity and bad contract isn't nothing.

Actually, I think the return they got looks pretty good. Especially if LVN can turn it around. Monk could be a factor in the near future too.

With the 2024 NFL Draft now in the books, the Packers have now finally acquired every player they're going to get from the Rodgers trade. So how did things shake out for Green Bay? Let's check it out.

2023 first-round pick (13th overall): LB Lukas Van Ness. The Packers ended up using this pick on Van Ness, who saw action in all 17 games during his rookie season. Although he wasn't a starter, he did manage to rack up four sacks, which was the fifth-highest total on the team.

2023 second-round pick (42nd): TE Luke Musgrave. The tight end missed six games due to a lacerated kidney, but when he was on the field in 2023, he was a pretty solid weapon for the Packers. In his 11 games of action, he caught 34 passes for 352 yards and a touchdown. Those numbers translate to 52.5 catches for 544 yards over a 17-game season.

2023 sixth-round pick (207th): K Anders Carlson. The rookie kicker got off to a strong start in 2023 by hitting nine of his first 10 field goals, but he fell apart after that. Carlson missed at least one kick -- field goal or extra point -- in six of Green Bay's final seven games and he's now on thin ice heading into 2024. Due to his struggles, the Packers brought in some stiff competition for him this year in the form of Greg Joseph, which means Carlson could be out of a job after just one season.

2024 second-round pick (45th): Edgerrin Cooper. The Packers ended up trading back from 41st overall to 45th overall in a deal with the Saints that also gave Green Bay the 168th and 190th overall picks. With the 45th pick, they selected linebacker Edgerrin Cooper out of Texas A&M. We gave that pick a 'B+' in our annual draft grades.
Added pick (168th). OL Jacob Monk. CBSSports.com draft guru Chris Trapasso absolutely loved this pick for the Packers. Trapasso gave it an 'A-' and here's why: "Hyper-experienced, legitimately versatile blocker who probably plays center or guard at the next level. Athleticism and acceleration off the snap instantly stand out," Trapasso wrote. "Classic Packers pick. He'll be a useful depth option for a while."

Added pick (190th): S Evan Williams. OK, so this is where things get a little confusing. The Packers took the 190th overall pick and packaged it with the 126th overall pick (which wasn't part of the Rodgers trade) to make a trade for the 111th overall pick. The Packers then used that selection on safety Evan Wiliams out of Oregon. That pick earned a 'B-' in our draft day grades.
So there you have it, the trade is now complete. One year after getting rid of Rodgers, the Packers now have their full return from the trade in place. Overall, they ended up with six players and two of them have already become solid role players. If at least two of the three players taken in 2024 end up becoming key contributors, then the Packers will be able to look back and say they won the trade. Of course, they'll also be able to say that if Jordan Love ends up being a superstar and he took the first step toward making that happen in 2023.

[call_me_ishmael]

Will be interesting to see if he's washed. If he is truly physically done, then there's nothing he can do, but if he gets his mojo back physically I can see where he goes _off_ this year like Brady on the Bucs.

[Fritz]

They need a QB. They're not in a position to draft one. People have said Rodgers and Tomlin have a good relationship. They're good enough that Rodgers will think he can get them over the top.

You can see I'm not keeping up with the NFL much any more. I thought they had Rumple Stiltskin (Russell Wilson) and, what, Justin Fields or some other former first rounder who didn't work out?

So yes, go to Pittsburgh, Aaron.

[Joemailman]

You can see I'm not keeping up with the NFL much any more. I thought they had Rumple Stiltskin (Russell Wilson) and, what, Justin Fields or some other former first rounder who didn't work out?

So yes, go to Pittsburgh, Aaron.

They do still have Wilson, but a lot of people think he's on the way out.

[bobblehead]

Tomlin has a history of tolerating guys like Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell. Rodgers is a fricking boy scout by comparison.

[Fritz]

The end of Rodgers's career is getting sadder and sadder. Next thing you know he's trying out for the USFL.

[MadtownPacker]

Will be interesting to see if he's washed. If he is truly physically done, then there's nothing he can do, but if he gets his mojo back physically I can see where he goes _off_ this year like Brady on the Bucs.
63% completion percentage, 3,897 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, and 90.5 rating.

Those aren’t bad stats considering how shitty their season was. I’d be curious to see how he does in Pittsburgh. Super Bowl rematch with the Packers?

[MadtownPacker]

Tomlin has a history of tolerating guys like Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell. Rodgers is a fricking boy scout by comparison.
Would be interesting to see Tomlin and Rodgers interact. Don’t see Tomlin as the type to get pushed around.

[Fosco33]

I hope AR just retires. I like both the man and the player but it’s almost always better to leave a party early than late.

[woodbuck27]

Hawk, Cobb, Rodges, Graham, Eric Bahktiari(?), ?, Davante, Lazard, Flynn, Bulaga
? and David Bahktiari squatting

(I could be wrong)

It's offseason, slow news cycle

Good eyes.

[woodbuck27]

Yup.