OFFICIAL AARON RODGERS THE LIVING LEGEND THREAD

[woodbuck27]

The Package ' Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams ' !?

[woodbuck27]

Hahahaa, exactly.

[MadScientist]

I hope AR just retires. I like both the man and the player but it’s almost always better to leave a party early than late.

Too late for that. Retiring before the huge deal he signed with the Packers would have been the right time. He hasn't been good since.

[Joemailman]

63% completion percentage, 3,897 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, and 90.5 rating.

Those aren’t bad stats considering how shitty their season was. I’d be curious to see how he does in Pittsburgh. Super Bowl rematch with the Packers?

28th in QBR, 22nd in passer rating, 28th in yards per attempt, 34th in completion pct., even his INT's was just average, 13th in TD pct. And Adams and Garrett Wilson are one of the better WR duos. It is past time.

[texaspackerbacker]

It seems to me that the most likely thing is he goes to the Raiders.

[Fosco33]

Too late for that. Retiring before the huge deal he signed with the Packers would have been the right time. He hasn't been good since.

Good for him to get a good contract and he was mvp and mvp level for the end of his run with us. He shouldn’t have gone to the Jets and just retired then. Now he certainly should / but some team will take a flyer on him and maybe he’ll have a Peyton moment.

[MadScientist]

Good for him to get a good contract and he was mvp and mvp level for the end of his run with us. He shouldn’t have gone to the Jets and just retired then. Now he certainly should / but some team will take a flyer on him and maybe he’ll have a Peyton moment.

I'd give greater odds of him having a peyote moment.

[bobblehead]

Hahahaa, exactly.

Holy shit, love is in the air and Woodbuck is back. I need to go buy some roses for the wife and stop reading before my head hurts.

[bobblehead]

28th in QBR, 22nd in passer rating, 28th in yards per attempt, 34th in completion pct., even his INT's was just average, 13th in TD pct. And Adams and Garrett Wilson are one of the better WR duos. It is past time.

You have proven my point on the value of a top tier OL.

[Fritz]

Okay . . ,. waiting for Tex to step in here, after Bobble's post . . .

[Joemailman]

A lot of talk Steelers are closing in on a deal with Rodgers.

[Deputy Nutz]

Ok, to lure Rodgers the Steelers went and traded for Metcalf and paid him 33 million a year. I think Tomlin realizes he might be on the hot seat with fans and the organization will always back Tomlin, going for broke is never a great strategy

[run pMc]

I think Tomlin gets to probably give his thoughts on the players, but that's the GM making moves. Also, Pickens is on the last year of his rookie contract; I suspect Metcalf is his replacement.
Rodgers could go there, it would be better than NYG for sure. Also: I think GB plays the AFC North this year? If that's the case, and Rodgers is there you better believe that will be Game of the Week material.

[Fritz]

I'm still hoping for a Minnesota-former-Packer-QB reunion. But it looks like the Steelers will get Rodgers, so he can get hammered by Myles Garrett twice a year.

[Joemailman]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-free-agency-aaron-rodgers-is-waiting-to-hear-from-this-team-before-making-a-possible-decision-per-report/

If you're wondering why Rodgers is taking so long to decide, it seems that some of the blame for the delay belongs with the Minnesota Vikings. According to The Athletic, the Vikings are still having discussions what they want to do at quarterback in 2025, and part of those discussions revolve around whether they want to make a play for Rodgers.

The team still hasn't made a decision, so Rodgers "is giving them time and waiting to hear from" them, The Athletic has reported. Although the Steelers and Giants have been the two teams that have shown the most interest in Rodgers, the Vikings have long been viewed as a dark horse team to land him.

As CBS Sports NFL insider Jonathan Jones noted on Friday, "If the Vikings wanted [Aaron] Rodgers, he would already be a Minnesota Viking." So now, as the Vikings try to make a decision, Rodgers is simply playing the waiting game.

The Vikings let Sam Darnold leave in free agency, and right now, the only two quarterbacks they have on the roster are two players -- J.J. McCarthy and Brett Rypien -- who have never taken a regular-season snap. McCarthy, the 10th overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft, is coming off a devastating knee injury that caused him to miss the entire 2024 season, so the Vikings might be trying to figure out if it actually makes sense to go into the season with him as the starter.

As things stand, the decision doesn't seem to be about money. According to The Athletic, the Giants have made the largest contract offer to Rodgers up to this point, and if it was all about money, he would have already accepted the offer.

There are a lot of NFL minds who think that Rodgers would be a perfect fit in Minnesota and Rodgers might feel the same way, which would explain why he's willing to wait. Sauce Gardner thinks Rodgers should go to Minnesota: The Jets corner recently wrote on social media that Rodgers might lead the NFL in every stat if he ends up with the Vikings.


Brett Favre also thinks Rodgers should do what he can to try and sign with the Vikings.

"By all means, sign with them. They got a really good football team. They're loaded at pretty much every position," Favre said during an appearance on "The Will Cain Show" on Tuesday.

Favre went from the Packers to the Jets to the Vikings in his career, and now, Rodgers has the chance to do the same thing.

[sharpe1027]

The dude is toast. He was toast before he went to the Jets. This isn't a Brady situation where he's putting in the work and maximizing within the system.

[texaspackerbacker]

I've always predicted that Rodgers if he wants to could be better to an older age than Brady. Barring a serious injury, I still expect him to be good.

[sharpe1027]

I've always predicted that Rodgers if he wants to could be better to an older age than Brady. Barring a serious injury, I still expect him to be good.

I could be wrong. I doubt it. You'll probably blame it on the rest of the team, even though it will be three different teams if he doesn't do well next year.

[Bretsky]

I've always predicted that Rodgers if he wants to could be better to an older age than Brady. Barring a serious injury, I still expect him to be good.



Just like last year, right ?

He might be fine

Clearly the SHITBAG wants to to to the Minnesota Vikings

[run pMc]

If these reports are true, he probably would have signed with the Vikings already, but I think that it mirrors Favre's career so closely rankles him. He enjoys being contrarian and likely views himself as iconoclastic and smart (and still insanely talented) enough to win with a team like PIT. The Giants were as much a mess as the Jets last year and the NY media has already had enough of Rodgers, so I don't really think he's serious about them. It's likely just to pump interest from any other teams who might be kicking the tires on a QB.

I don't think he's good enough to lead a team to the SB anymore. Agree with sharpe that he's wired different from Brady and his game is different too. He's always been more talented physically than Brady, but at this point he's a mess between the ears.

If he does decide he wants to play (and he likely does, I don't think last season is how he wants to go out) I'd think he'll want to sign soon before the FA money dries up and the QB-needy teams draft them.

[Fosco33]

If he’s a bad qb - wouldn’t we want him to go to the Vikes?

[bobblehead]

If he’s a bad qb - wouldn’t we want him to go to the Vikes?

Even though tex is convinced Aaron has 5 good years left he is clearly past his due date. If he gets in great shape he can go to Minnesota and make us sorry about it for maybe 10 weeks at which point the rigors of an NFL season will wear him down and they will collapse. I loved Aaron, but time to hang it up. But I don't blame him if someone wants to hand him even a "low" $20 million to play this year.

[Fosco33]

Even though tex is convinced Aaron has 5 good years left he is clearly past his due date. If he gets in great shape he can go to Minnesota and make us sorry about it for maybe 10 weeks at which point the rigors of an NFL season will wear him down and they will collapse. I loved Aaron, but time to hang it up. But I don't blame him if someone wants to hand him even a "low" $20 million to play this year.

Exactly my sentiment.

Can’t blame anyone who wants to get paid. Not sure why he’d need any more money - drugs are pretty cheap as are girlfriends compared to medical bills and spouses.

[Fritz]

Even though tex is convinced Aaron has 5 good years left he is clearly past his due date. If he gets in great shape he can go to Minnesota and make us sorry about it for maybe 10 weeks at which point the rigors of an NFL season will wear him down and they will collapse. I loved Aaron, but time to hang it up. But I don't blame him if someone wants to hand him even a "low" $20 million to play this year.

What I read this morning is that it'd be approximately the same that Sam Darnold would've been making - around $33 mill.

So that brings up a question that none of us could've envisioned six or so years ago: who would you rather have at QB, if the money's the same: Sam Darnold or Aaron Rodgers?

[Teamcheez1]

That’s a pretty easy question.
If I were a Vikings fan, I would rather have Darnold.

It leaves me to believe the Rodgers to Vikings talk is a lot of self-generated nonsense.

[MadtownPacker]

This is the one time I am rooting for the vikings….

Rastak will probably throw up when it happens! :lol:

[texaspackerbacker]

I HATE the idea of Rodgers going to the Vikings. Mark my words, he's gonna have a decent season by the standard of just about any other QB, maybe not up to his own career standards, but damn good anyway. For that matter, by any regular QB standards, he was a little above average even last year, just not up to his own expected level.

They're saying he "ghosted" the Steelers and Giants? I think he's holding out for some huge amount of money with the idea that if nobody wants to pay it, he'll just retire.

[Rastak]

This is the one time I am rooting for the vikings….

Rastak will probably throw up when it happens! :lol:

I highly doubt it will happen. If it does, I'd be extremely disappointed in the front office.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I HATE the idea of Rodgers going to the Vikings. Mark my words, he's gonna have a decent season by the standard of just about any other QB, maybe not up to his own career standards, but damn good anyway. For that matter, by any regular QB standards, he was a little above average even last year, just not up to his own expected level.

They're saying he "ghosted" the Steelers and Giants? I think he's holding out for some huge amount of money with the idea that if nobody wants to pay it, he'll just retire.

At this point of his life, frogskins ain’t an issue, homie. Butte has more frogskins in the bank than Fosco, Bobble and O’Day have combined.

Butte wants to be more than a 1 hit wonder. Between the Gee Men, Lumpensteelers and Queens, Queens appear to be the more talented roster. It’s all about the ring at this stage of his career.

Go, Butte, and be a Queen!

[Fritz]

At this point of his life, frogskins ain’t an issue, homie. Butte has more frogskins in the bank than Fosco, Bobble and O’Day have combined.

Butte wants to be more than a 1 hit wonder. Between the Gee Men, Lumpensteelers and Queens, Queens appear to be the more talented roster. It’s all about the ring at this stage of his career.

Go, Butte, and be a Queen!

Some would say he already acts like one.

[MadtownPacker]

I highly doubt it will happen. If it does, I'd be extremely disappointed in the front office.
So the same as every year pretty much. :lol:

I agree with your other posts where you’re said he played decent last year. I thought he did too and you know I don’t like his ass. I just wanna see the shit show for the fun. What’s the worst that can happen, another NFCC loss?

[MadtownPacker]

Some would say he already acts like one.
Diva man a diva.

[run pMc]

I think O'Connell could get something out of Rodgers, with Jonesy at RB and Jefferson, Addison and Hockenson at skill positions... as someone said, at least for the first 10 weeks. Older players get hurt, as do those with injury histories. The Vikings have had to sign a lot of players because their drafts have not been great, and they also have given away a lot of their picks this year. They lost a lot of starter snaps this offseason, including Darnold's. I wonder how long it will take for all those players to get on the same page, and an old, my-way-or-highway QB like Rodgers might make that worse.

I have to think the talks with Rodgers says something about JJ McCarthy as well.

if MIN goes that route, I don't see it ending well for them.

PIT isn't a bad landing place IMO. They have a young good OL and Metcalf, Pickens and Friermuth to throw to, plus a good defense and smart coach.

I'd avoid NYG, especially if legacy is as important to Rodgers as people say.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think O'Connell could get something out of Rodgers, with Jonesy at RB and Jefferson, Addison and Hockenson at skill positions... as someone said, at least for the first 10 weeks. Older players get hurt, as do those with injury histories. The Vikings have had to sign a lot of players because their drafts have not been great, and they also have given away a lot of their picks this year. They lost a lot of starter snaps this offseason, including Darnold's. I wonder how long it will take for all those players to get on the same page, and an old, my-way-or-highway QB like Rodgers might make that worse.

I have to think the talks with Rodgers says something about JJ McCarthy as well.

if MIN goes that route, I don't see it ending well for them.

PIT isn't a bad landing place IMO. They have a young good OL and Metcalf, Pickens and Friermuth to throw to, plus a good defense and smart coach.

I'd avoid NYG, especially if legacy is as important to Rodgers as people say.

The folks saying Butte is toasted obviously ain’t ran good at the poker tables to shell out frogskins for the Sunday Ticket. Watching the Jesters from afar on the YouTube app, I saw a QB, while his overall kung fu ain’t what it was in his heyday, who could still slang a rock over them mountains. Butte’s struggles had more to do with that subpar Jesters OL than the chemical phenomenon that causes bread to “toast.”

Queens OL appears to be prodigious. If the bum Darnold could do what he did last season with that offense, imagine what Butte could do. The wrath of Butte in the Purple and Blonde would be as remarkable as that of Daenerys Targaryen at King’s Landing.

[Joemailman]

ESPN reporting Vikings not pursuing Rodgers.

[NewsBruin]

And life returns to being a beautiful mystery.

[texaspackerbacker]

ESPN reporting Vikings not pursuing Rodgers.

This is the best news I've heard - if true. Rodgers is gonna be damn good wherever he goes, barring serious injury, and I prefer that it not be our most hated enemy the God damned Vikings.

[Patler]

This is the best news I've heard - if true. Rodgers is gonna be damn good wherever he goes, barring serious injury, and I prefer that it not be our most hated enemy the God damned Vikings.

Rodgers hasn't been "damn good" for a number of years and isn't likely to ever be so again. He maybe can be productive on a team with a strong running game, but he his game no longer has any depth to it. His AY/A in each of 2022 and 2024 were the lowest of his career since he became a starter and were a yard and a half less than his career average.

[Fosco33]

ESPN reporting Vikings not pursuing Rodgers.

Would hope AR just retires. Seeing him as a steeler would be mildly entertaining as they are my ‘afc’ team that’s least hated.

[texaspackerbacker]

Rodgers hasn't been "damn good" for a number of years and isn't likely to ever be so again. He maybe can be productive on a team with a strong running game, but he his game no longer has any depth to it. His AY/A in each of 2022 and 2024 were the lowest of his career since he became a starter and were a yard and a half less than his career average.

By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?

[run pMc]

Queens OL appears to be prodigious. If the bum Darnold could do what he did last season with that offense, imagine what Butte could do.

Agree MIN is trying to improve the OL. Darnold is/was much more mobile than Rodgers though. he got flushed out of the pocket several times against Gb and other teams and hurt them scrambling for first downs. Rodgers days of doing that are gone.

Sure Rodgers had a bad OL in NYJ - I've been saying he'd struggle with that line since he was traded there - but his ADOT and ANY/A weren't that great, and it took him something like 30+ games to crack 300 yards passing. His arm still is good, but with aging QBs it's usually not the arm that's the problem. It's they can't move in the pocket anymore and don't like being hit, and when they do get hit (and get hit more often) they get hurt more easily.

I also think Rodgers is very set in his ways about what kind of offense he wants to run, and how much autonomy he has at the LOS to audible. Even in a QB friendly system KOC runs there would be a lot of friction. (ex. bye bye pre-snap motion.)
If the Vikes re no longer interested, my guess is it's because the mental makeup and salary demands weren't worth it.


Said it a dozen times already, he was a great great player, but he ain't a great player anymore.

[George Cumby]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

[Fosco33]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

That’s what I said.

Folks that don’t want that then have to admit he ‘may’ have gas in the tank or are worried about some Viking/packer legacy stuff. In practical matters - only next season matters.

[Patler]

By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?

What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?

[sharpe1027]

By the standard of any QB other than himself, Rodgers was good last season. Brady was still good to an age several years more than Rodgers. It's more than likely that Rodgers' expected level would be what Brady was at the same age or better. Why wouldn't that be the expectation?

Narrator: he did not have a good year by any standard.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers was 30th in passing yards per attempt, 13th in TD%, 17th in INT%, 34th in completion pct., 22nd in passer rating, 31st in QBR. He did get better second half of the season with Adams, but the greatness is gone.

[MadtownPacker]

What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?
So we can watch him fail miserably!

[Joemailman]

Kevin Seifert
@SeifertESPN

Continuing to report out the Vikings' QB situation. Added some information to our story. The decision is to give J.J. McCarthy as many reps this spring as possible. If Aaron Rodgers is needed later for some reason and is available, he will be revisited.

[texaspackerbacker]

So much irrational hate in here for somebody who gave us all so much enjoyment for so long hahahaha. I'd call it "Rodgers Derangement Syndrome".

[Anti-Polar Bear]

He would ruin Minny the same way he ruined the Jets, why wouldn't we want him to go there?

He's toxic AF and Gute was right to dump him when he did.

And how exactly did Butte ruin the Jesters? Jesters were toothless long before Butte. Butte didn’t ruin anything - if anything, he failed to change that culture of toothlessness.

And how exactly is Butte toxic? Seeking alternative medicine, drinking psychedelic tea and hiding in the dark - all in the name of killing the ego and seeking love - ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter toxic, hombre.

In restless dreams, Butte walks alone on narrow streets of cobblestone. “Fools,” he says. "You do not know…Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you.”

[sharpe1027]

If you believe the common narrative Jets were supposed to be a solid team with a great defense, some promising pieces on offense that was being killed by poor QB play. When Rodgers signed people were talking about Superbowl aspirations. I don't think that's completely accurate, but the team wasn't viewed as toothless by many. After Rodgers, they are starting over with a whole new coaching staff, his dead salary. They are worse than when he joined.

So while Rodgers didn't ruin the Jets, he also didn't come close to the expectations.

[ThunderDan]

If you believe the common narrative Jets were supposed to be a solid team with a great defense, some promising pieces on offense that was being killed by poor QB play. When Rodgers signed people were talking about Superbowl aspirations. I don't think that's completely accurate, but the team wasn't viewed as toothless by many. After Rodgers, they are starting over with a whole new coaching staff, his dead salary. They are worse than when he joined.

So while Rodgers didn't ruin the Jets, he also didn't come close to the expectations.

You forgot to mention everyone else that ARod brought to NY.
ARod - $23,000,000
Devante - $8,362,000
Lazard (Still on the roster at this point) - $13,184,000

That's $44.5 M in dead or wasted cap space for the Jets this year becasue of the ARod experiment.

[George Cumby]

And how exactly did Butte ruin the Jesters? Jesters were toothless long before Butte. Butte didn’t ruin anything - if anything, he failed to change that culture of toothlessness.

And how exactly is Butte toxic? Seeking alternative medicine, drinking psychedelic tea and hiding in the dark - all in the name of killing the ego and seeking love - ain’t in any shape, form, matter or anti-matter toxic, hombre.

In restless dreams, Butte walks alone on narrow streets of cobblestone. “Fools,” he says. "You do not know…Hear my words that I might teach you. Take my arms that I might reach you.”

What is this reality where I'm bashing K-aaron and you're defending him? LOL.

Bring back Harambe.

[Fosco33]

Oh man. I agree w/ tank on something. Shit.

[QBME]

Oh man. I agree w/ tank on something. Shit.

:doh:

[Joemailman]

Gerry Dulac
@gerrydulac

BREAKING: Aaron Rodgers is at the Steelers facility today, an indication a deal with the team could be forthcoming, per sources.

[MadScientist]

You forgot to mention everyone else that ARod brought to NY.
ARod - $23,000,000
Devante - $8,362,000
Lazard (Still on the roster at this point) - $13,184,000

That's $44.5 M in dead or wasted cap space for the Jets this year because of the ARod experiment.

You forgot that they also brought in Nathaniel Hackett as OC to help lure Rodgers. Not a direct cap expense, but he certainly didn't help them build a functional offense. The Jets are in a worse place after Rodgers than before, and a lot of it is tied to Rodgers.

[Fosco33]

GM Rodgers wasn’t very good

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You forgot that they also brought in Nathaniel Hackett as OC to help lure Rodgers. Not a direct cap expense, but he certainly didn't help them build a functional offense. The Jets are in a worse place after Rodgers than before, and a lot of it is tied to Rodgers.

Hackett was paid the minimum by the Jesters since Denver was on the hook for Hackett’s contract.

Getting an ex-head coach as OC for the minimum is a bargain.

[ThunderDan]

How did the HC gig go for Hackett in Denver? Was he a top tier HC? Did he even last a year?

[Fritz]

What you are actually saying, but can't seem to admit to yourself, is that Rodgers is no longer "special" as a starting QB. He has joined that group of QBs you often refer to as "others". Given that he no longer brings anything special, why should I or any other Packer fan care who he plays for?

Because if he plays for Minny it would seem to help GB's chances if defeating the Vikes.

Then there's the Schadenfreude.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Because if he plays for Minny it would seem to help GB's chances if defeating the Vikes.

Then there's the Schadenfreude.

I ain’t dumb, so I realize that you, as a proud Michigan grad, see Jenny McCarthy’s Oedipal son, JJ, as the greatest QB since Brady. But I reckon, at this stage of their respective careers, Butte is the better QB.

I reckon the Queens struggle like a poor poker player on tilt this season with the Oedipal son at QB.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

How did the HC gig go for Hackett in Denver? Was he a top tier HC? Did he even last a year?

Irrelevant.

You’re the one who brought up wasted frogskins. I merely pointed out that the Jesters got Hackett for a bargain.

Btw, superstars like Butte attract audiences, and audiences force the networks to pony up, providing sumptuous frogskins for the pig-owners to pay the players. And the cap can always be cooked.

[MadScientist]

Irrelevant.

You’re the one who brought up wasted frogskins. I merely pointed out that the Jesters got Hackett for a bargain.

Btw, superstars like Butte attract audiences, and audiences force the networks to pony up, providing sumptuous frogskins for the pig-owners to pay the players. And the cap can always be cooked.

I brought up Hackett, and specifically noted it wasn't an expense thing. So the direct cost is irrelevant. Cheap shit is still shit, and he cost the Jets two years of development.

[run pMc]

Rodgers did some great things for GB and is a 1st ballot HOF. That's not changing, unless he does really awful criminal stuff.

What has changed is his performance on the field. He's no longer a player who can drag a team to the playoffs like he did a few times with McCarthy. He's a player you win with, not win because of. He's tettering into player who hurts you because of his declining athleticism and stubbornness to only play his way.
Makes me think he thinks he knows more than his coaches and doesn't want to be coached anymore.

That's not a guy you want to pay $35M to.

The Jets had a good defense and very good skill players when Rodgers arrived: Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, etc. so he didn't have a bare cupboard. They traded a pick and took on salary for Adams, who helped once he got healthy/acclimated. There was way too much in season turmoil going on for that team to be focused on playing well every week and it showed. No matter where Rodgers goes there will be a lot of media coverage because he says and does such bonkers things.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I brought up Hackett, and specifically noted it wasn't an expense thing. So the direct cost is irrelevant. Cheap shit is still shit, and he cost the Jets two years of development.

Hackett is a so-called disciple of LaFleur, who himself is a disciple of Shanahan. Salah wanted the Shanahan system. Pig-owner forced out the other LaFleur. Hackett was available. And for a bargain. A logical hire.

Not even Shanahan would be able to do shit with that OL of the Jesters. The same Shanahan who couldn’t do shit with the Dog Farts (Browns).

[MadScientist]

Hackett is a so-called disciple of LaFleur, who himself is a disciple of Shanahan. Salah wanted the Shanahan system. Pig-owner forced out the other LaFleur. Hackett was available. And for a bargain. A logical hire.

Not even Shanahan would be able to do shit with that OL of the Jesters. The same Shanahan who couldn’t do shit with the Dog Farts (Browns).

He somehow, throughout all practices, never realized that cut blocks by the tackles would get Rodgers flattened, since he likes to hold the ball for the best possible play. I recognized this on their first pass play in 23. They did it again and Rodgers was out for the year. That speaks to Hackett being a bad communicator, or just too dumb to realize what is going on. Pedigree means nothing, when the guy is not good enough at his job. It was a hire to lure Rodgers and it failed spectacularly for the Jets.

[Teamcheez1]

Rodgers still unsigned as the Steelers OTA’s begin tomorrow. Is he really interested in playing football?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/steelers-launch-otas-on-tuesday-apparently-without-aaron-rodgers

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Rodgers still unsigned as the Steelers OTA’s begin tomorrow. Is he really interested in playing football?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/steelers-launch-otas-on-tuesday-apparently-without-aaron-rodgers

Playing futbol on Sundays? Highly likely.

Throwing rocks at half speed and pumping irons with a bunch of young uns at the irrelevant OTAs? Nada.

Lumpensteelers run the same shit on offense that the Packers do. Arthur Smith, the trust fund OC, is a disciple of the Frog, the current Packer head honcho. Butte knows Frog’s offense like Tony O’Day knows idiocy. No need to show up for the meaningless OTAs.

[Joemailman]

PITTSBURGH -- Four-time MVP quarterbacks come to those who wait.

And wait. And wait.

Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter, ending months of uncertainty around his future and uniting the future Hall of Famer with a team that desperately needs a quarterback.

[MadScientist]

PITTSBURGH -- Four-time MVP quarterbacks come to those who wait.

And wait. And wait.

Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter, ending months of uncertainty around his future and uniting the future Hall of Famer with a team that desperately needs a quarterback.

The reason he came to the team that waited is that no other team was even waiting. But in Pittsburg's defense, they are only giving up money for him to ruin their season, not draft picks as well.

[bobblehead]

The reason he came to the team that waited is that no other team was even waiting. But in Pittsburg's defense, they are only giving up money for him to ruin their season, not draft picks as well.

I think you are going to see a pretty good Aaron this year. Pitt is a nice fit for him. They aren't the Jets. This is a successful franchise and Tomlin is exactly the kind of coach that will tolerate all of Rodgers quirks as long as he gets results, and Rodgers has proven that he is a pretty good OC....I mean, he made Hackett look competent. (Hackett knows he's not NFL material and just let Rodgers do his thing). Truthfully I think this was as good of a fit as Rodgers could possibly find. A compliant HC and a somewhat talented roster. Fat mike let Rodgers run the show and we made a lot of NFCC games. Fat Mike wasn't even as good of a coach as Tomlin.

[MadtownPacker]

Have to agree with Bobble. Dont see any loser in the arrangement. Also that AARon will have a little bit of a comeback season going all out to end things on his terms.

[texaspackerbacker]

I tend to agree with you. I think it rubs Rodgers the wrong way that some people write him off as finished when his rival for GOAT played pretty well to a few years old than Rodgers is now.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bradshaw is an ass. I hope the Lumpensteelers assign Butte the 12.

[Patler]

If he stays healthy, he will have a decent year with mostly short to midrange throws. Last year it seemed his long game was gone.

The big hurdle he faces is with his legs. He has had numerous injury issues over the years with his legs. If one of those comes back again, at his age, it could change his entire season.

[MadtownPacker]

Bradshaw is an ass. I hope the Lumpensteelers assign Butte the 12.
He should be 10 since he is halfway as good when he was 12 but not as bad as when he was 8.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

He should be 10 since he is halfway as good when he was 12 but not as bad as when he was 8.

10 is too Lovemaker. But it does make sense for someone who has experienced ego death and is now all about love.

I still would like to see Butte don the 12 just to fuck with Bradshaw.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If he stays healthy, he will have a decent year with mostly short to midrange throws. Last year it seemed his long game was gone.

The big hurdle he faces is with his legs. He has had numerous injury issues over the years with his legs. If one of those comes back again, at his age, it could change his entire season.

There’s a big difference between mobility and footwork. Pretty sure Brady and Bert Favor can still sling a rock pretty far since their footworks should still be fundamentally sound. Ditto, Butte. Butte just can’t run like he did in the heyday.

Payton Manning and Dree Brees can’t throw rocks anymore due largely to neck/shoulder injuries, and both don’t have a history of leg injuries.

[MadScientist]

There’s a big difference between mobility and footwork. Pretty sure Brady and Bert Favor can still sling a rock pretty far since their footworks should still be fundamentally sound. Ditto, Butte. Butte just can’t run like he did in the heyday.

Payton Manning and Dree Brees can’t throw rocks anymore due largely to neck/shoulder injuries, and both don’t have a history of leg injuries.

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.

[bobblehead]

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.

Age takes no prisoners. In fantasy baseball I refuse to draft a player over 32. Its amazing how quickly these guys lose it right about there. For a QB its more like 37-38, but I never draft a RB over 30 or a WR over 32. It serves me well. Go look at the leaders for points league baseball and you might find 3 guys in the top 40 that are 33 and older. Judge would be one, he's a freak and holding on a bit longer. But take a look at guys who are 33/34 and dropped off. Salvador Perez, Semien, Christian Walker. Even Betts and Harper are showing signs of decline.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

There's a big difference between throwing the ball far and throwing it far and on the money. Rodgers has show no signs of being a better than average QB since 2021. Thinking an old player will recover his form is the kind of blind hopefulness that has GM's seeking employment elsewhere after the season. Also Pittsburgh gave up a fair number of sacks last year with mobile QB's, which isn't a good sign for Rodgers. Rodgers habit of letting the 'perfect play' be the enemy of the good play will not serve him well as he ages and has to adjust to new receivers who don't know his quirks. He'll make a few great plays that get his fans excited, but overall it won't be much different than last year was for him.

I guess time will tell who is right. Butte can still play at a high level, I reckon.

And the Butte-Metcalf combo is gonna be awesome. Some incompetent GM just had to take Savage and a fucking center over Metcalf on a team with its #1 rock catcher on his way out and a bunch of no names wide outs.

[smuggler]

The Jets receivers didn't do Rodgers any favors last season - Davante was still getting settled in by the time the season ended, and he still produced at an average level. I'm not really familiar with what the Steelers have aside from Metcalf and Friermuth, but those two guys seem like an upgrade from a receiving perspective and the offensive line situation is probably a push. If his body is the same as 2024, his numbers should improve.

[Fosco33]

Apparently there’s a Mrs Rodgers now

[NewsBruin]

What has changed is his performance on the field. He's no longer a player who can drag a team to the playoffs like he did a few times with McCarthy. He's a player you win with, not win because of. He's tettering into player who hurts you because of his declining athleticism and stubbornness to only play his way.

The thing from the end of his Packers run is that he's not the guy who's going to keep the lowest guy on his sideline in the game. The team gets down a few touchdowns, he's going to get wistful and reflective and equanimitous and either grumpy or Putting This Beautiful Mystery Called Life Into Its Proper Perspective.

I'm not a big "unwritten rules" guy; y'all have certainly read my disdain for shackling young athletes with old people's expectations, but when you're making the most money on the team and you have the perspective of seeing youngsters shuffled in and out of their pro career, you should expect yourself to keep your teammates knowing you believe in them and appreciate their effort.

If you can get Aa-ron to forget that chip on his shoulder, you can take him out of the game.

[Fritz]

One question is whether Mike Tomlin is that tough, respected guy who can bend Aaron to the will of the team, or will Tomlin be the pal, the old colleague, and let Rodgers be the worst version of himself?

Either way, I don't think Rodgers has the physical tools any more to be great or even consistently really good.Once he lost his legs he was not the same player. Like any of them. He'll flash the occasional brilliant throw, but I don't think he's going to have some big career renaissance. That and having a deeper threat guy like Metcalf as your main weapon seems like a weird way to approach the end of the Rodgers era.

And let's see if Tomlin can ever get Rodgers to throw into the middle of the field.

[Patler]

Either way, I don't think Rodgers has the physical tools any more to be great or even consistently really good.Once he lost his legs he was not the same player. Like any of them. He'll flash the occasional brilliant throw, but I don't think he's going to have some big career renaissance. That and having a deeper threat guy like Metcalf as your main weapon seems like a weird way to approach the end of the Rodgers era.


An article on a Steelers website stated that in 2024 Rodgers was 25/63 on throws targeted at 20 yards or more. Two things stand out: the completion percentage is very poor and the number of deep targets relative to overall passing attempts was quite low.

Also, contrary to what his history was in GB, he got the ball out quickly. Of 584 attempts, 363 were thrown in 2.5 seconds or less. He did not hold onto the ball like he did with the Packers where year after year his average time from snap to release was among the longest, if not the very longest.

It was also remarked that Rodgers seemed to show the effects of every sack.

Like most old QBs, as someone said, he is a QB you can win with, not one you win because of.

[MadScientist]

An article on a Steelers website stated that in 2024 Rodgers was 25/63 on throws targeted at 20 yards or more. Two things stand out: the completion percentage is very poor and the number of deep targets relative to overall passing attempts was quite low.

Also, contrary to what his history was in GB, he got the ball out quickly. Of 584 attempts, 363 were thrown in 2.5 seconds or less. He did not hold onto the ball like he did with the Packers where year after year his average time from snap to release was among the longest, if not the very longest.

It was also remarked that Rodgers seemed to show the effects of every sack.

Like most old QBs, as someone said, he is a QB you can win with, not one you win because of.

Those all seem related. He got the ball out faster because he didn't trust the line to hold the rush as much as in GB (given 2023, that was reasonable). That meant less time to get things downfield, so fewer attempts. Feeling every sack feeds back on this, especially since 25 of the 40 sacks were on attempts where he held the ball more than 2.5 seconds.

[Teamcheez1]

I tried to post a photo. Have never figured out how to do it. Oh well.

[Fritz]

I used to know how, but now it's not working. Might not be you. Might be the machinery of Packerrats.

[MadtownPacker]

I tried to post a photo. Have never figured out how to do it. Oh well.
Two ways type it manually enter these around the pic link Link here

https://static.www.nfl.com/t_person_squared_mobile/f_auto/league/api/clubs/logos/GB

The other is by clicking on the little icon that looks like a picture frame with a tree. It will bring a box you put the web address and click it to automatically add the tags above for you.

Or you could just listen to dumbasses that havent figured it out in almost twenty years.

[bobblehead]

Those all seem related. He got the ball out faster because he didn't trust the line to hold the rush as much as in GB (given 2023, that was reasonable). That meant less time to get things downfield, so fewer attempts. Feeling every sack feeds back on this, especially since 25 of the 40 sacks were on attempts where he held the ball more than 2.5 seconds.

He has also largely lost the athleticism to escape pressure. He is changing his game. Brady never had mobility, and he was notorious for taking care of his health. Those 2 factors allowed him to be effective longer.

[Teamcheez1]

https://share.icloud.com/photos/08af7KmBCQl4tpChx4J_mDMDA

Tried that and it didn’t work. Doesn’t seem like it’s possible from a phone. Need an upgrade to the functionality of this forum.

This should be as easy as point and click.

[Fosco33]

https://i.postimg.cc/dVb08Sqb/IMG-9652.jpg (https://postimg.cc/9DBV2bwb)

I use only my phone for this site.

You can use just about any image hosting site. Like this one is PostImg.cc and then copy the ‘hotlink for forum:’ and paste here.

This is my view of Day 3 of the draft and Mr Irrelevant. We ended up front row - pretty cool.

[Fritz]

The blond with the clear stripper heels - very relevant.