Official Final Cuts/Roster Thread

[Joemailman]

My stab at the 53/69 man roster:

QB (2) Love, Clifford
RB (3) Jones, Dillon, Taylor
WR (6) Watson, Doubs, Toure, Reed, Wicks, Heath
TE (4) DeGuara, Musgrave, Kraft, Waiver Pickup
OL (9) Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Tom, Walker, Nijman, Rhyan, Jones

DL (6) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks, Ford
LB (4) Campbell, Walker, McDuffie, Carpenter
EDGE (6) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Hollins, Cox
CB (5) Alexander, Ballentine, Douglas, Nixon, Valentine
S (5) Ford, Gaines, Johnson, Leavitt, Savage

ST (3) Carlson, O'Donnell, Orzech

Pup: Stokes

Traded: Newman

Practice Squad:

McGough
Tyler Goodson, Emanuel Wilson
Jadakis Bonds, Grant DuBose, Cody Chrest
Austin Allen
Cole Schneider, Kadeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta
Chris Slayton
Eric Wilson
Kiondre Thomas
Tarvarius Moore, Jonathan Owens
Daniel Whelan

[texaspackerbacker]

The only changes I would make are:

OBVIOUSLY 4 RBs including Emanuel Wilson

No 4th TE

Jonathan Owens over I wish Leavitt but more likely Gaines)

Add William Hooper to the PS

[Fritz]

The only changes I would make are:

OBVIOUSLY 4 RBs including Emanuel Wilson

No 4th TE

Jonathan Owens over I wish Leavitt but more likely Gaines)

Add William Hooper to the PS

It may seem obvious to you, Tex, but it's just your opinion.

I think Joe's waiver-wire pickup of a TE is very interesting. I was thinking along these lines in terms of guards/centers - if someone cuts a guy who's a notch above Rolled Royce, I could see the Packers grabbing him.


I also think one or maybe two of the rookies will magically have sustained a season-ending injury and will be placed on IR. I'm thinking maybe the safety, Johnson, and/or Wicks.

[run pMc]

My stab at the 53/69 man roster:

Mostly agree with a few differences:
I think they keep 2 RBs. I could see them keeping 10 OL.
Agree on a waiver pickup at TE, Kraft isn't ready and they will want a blocking TE who can play ST.

I think Owens makes it over Gaines at safety, but just barely. Could also be a spot where they pickup a roster cut.

Agree Heath, Brenton Cox and big Johnathon Ford probably make the roster but are game day inactives.

I think they will IR or come to an injury settlement with Goodson and Tenuta and (if injury settled) sign them to PS later in the season.
Royce Newman is really on the bubble. It depends on what they think of their IOL depth, which is not great. I think Njiman is more likely to be traded than Newman. Newman doesn't have a lot of trade value IMO -- his starting experience as a rookie is important, but he's regressed since then and that recent film is not good.

I'd probably pick a few different players for PS, but that's kind of a crapshoot based on if they can get people resigned there. They'll sign 2 RBs to PS, I'd think Taylor and Wilson. Goodson has an AC joint injury and that could keep him out most/all of the season if it's serious.

[Joemailman]

A tough call was Cox/Carpenter/Wilson. I think 2 out of 3 make it. I went with Cox and Carpenter. However if the Mad Italian gets his way, it will probably be Carpenter and Wilson.

[smuggler]

I expect Eric Wilson to make the team. He leads the team in ST snaps in preseason AND he has been decently rated in defensive duties (admittedly, against lower competition).

Leavitt is another guy that somewhat fits that mold, but I don't think he's been as impressive in either ST duty or as a safety.

[Fritz]

I expect Eric Wilson to make the team. He leads the team in ST snaps in preseason AND he has been decently rated in defensive duties (admittedly, against lower competition).

Leavitt is another guy that somewhat fits that mold, but I don't think he's been as impressive in either ST duty or as a safety.

I like that special teams is actually a consideration when building the roster. God that sucked watching those special teams shit shows of years past.

[texaspackerbacker]

I sorta disagree with that. A decent Special Teams coach ought to be able to take the back up O and D players and make them good on special teams, no lame-assed special team specialists needed (I'm looking at you, Leavitt).

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I sorta disagree with that. A decent Special Teams coach ought to be able to take the back up O and D players and make them good on special teams, no lame-assed special team specialists needed (I'm looking at you, Leavitt).

Agreed. Not sure why the incompetent NFL GMs don’t look for kickers who can also punt (and vice versa). Would open up a roster spot by not having both a kicker and a punter on the 53. And the overpaid Italian ST coach is telling us he can’t train the 4th TE, the 4th ILB, the 4th safety or the 3rd RB to long snap? Long snapping is as easy as flipping burgers, I am sure.

Folks like Ted Thompson, Leavit, Jarett Bush and Matthew Slater are/were able to play eons in the NFL cos NFL coaches love special team “aces.” They love the aces’ blue-collar work ethic. While I was pissed at Thompson for not retaining ace Jeff Janis, I am with you regarding the notion that any special team coach worth his salary outta be able to make chicken salad outta chicken shit.

[Fritz]

I sorta disagree with that. A decent Special Teams coach ought to be able to take the back up O and D players and make them good on special teams, no lame-assed special team specialists needed (I'm looking at you, Leavitt).

I think the Bisaccia story disproves your point. The Packers hired him because he was that special teams ace of a coach - and what did he do once he got here? He pushed Guter to acquire Bisaccia's ST guys - thus, the players make the coach.

On a different topic, now that the cuts happen all at once, the days of cutting a vet early so he had a chance to catch on with another team are over. That's tough for the fringe guys, who work so damn hard to get a chance to play in the NFL.

[run pMc]

Kickers and Punters are specialized these days to where they usually focus on just the one skill at the expense of the other, so you get a really good punter but iffy kickoff/kicker or vice versa (at the pro level). Who was the last dual K/P who was even league average at both?

Kickers these days make 47-52 yard FGs routinely. 40 years ago those were longshots.

Many of the players who have to make it on ST didn't play a lot of ST in college because they were the stars. That's changed a bit more and GB has started drafting some players who have ST experience in college, but that's part of what makes it tough. Injuries to starters cause ST players to get promoted, and those players have to get backfilled by PS players who might not be as in tune with the ST responsibilities they are taking on, etc. Coaching ST is not easy because there are a lot of moving parts. There are also a number of bad ST coaches (turns out Maurice Drayton was not good at it). Having ST mainstays who can get guys lined up and following their assignments are valuable to ST coaches because they are like on-the-field coaches, and sometimes players take that better from another player who can explain it to them. Keeping one or two ST aces shouldn't wreck your roster, assuming they can at least competently play a handful of emergency snaps at their non-ST position. Jarrett Bush and Jeff Janis mostly could. Rudy Ford can. Dallin Leavitt can't.

[bobblehead]

My stab at the 53/69 man roster:

QB (2) Love, Clifford
RB (3) Jones, Dillon, Taylor
WR (6) Watson, Doubs, Toure, Reed, Wicks, Heath
TE (4) DeGuara, Musgrave, Kraft, Waiver Pickup
OL (9) Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Tom, Walker, Nijman, Rhyan, Jones

DL (6) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks, Ford
LB (4) Campbell, Walker, McDuffie, Carpenter
EDGE (6) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Hollins, Cox
CB (5) Alexander, Ballentine, Douglas, Nixon, Valentine
S (5) Ford, Gaines, Johnson, Leavitt, Savage

ST (3) Carlson, O'Donnell, Orzech

Pup: Stokes

Traded: Newman

Practice Squad:

McGough
Tyler Goodson, Emanuel Wilson
Jadakis Bonds, Grant DuBose, Cody Chrest
Austin Allen
Cole Schneider, Kadeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta
Chris Slayton
Eric Wilson
Kiondre Thomas
Tarvarius Moore, Jonathan Owens
Daniel Whelan

Near consensus here. Places I disagree. I think they go 2 RB and use the PS rotation again for the gameday 3rd. Wagner was so bad this summer I don't think we get 7th even. MIGHT go with the cheaper punter for upside.

I won't speculate a ton on the PS as its a living breathing changing beast. I will say this. Owens won't be on a PS this year. He put a good season on tape last year and will get claimed if we don't keep him. I think they find a way to roster him. Probably at the expense of the 3rd RB is my guess. Although we are already imbalanced to the D with Leavitt being a non factor other than ST.

Edit: Also, someone above pointed out Wilson's ST value (smuggler after further review...props). That is very valid. He makes this team as well somehow. Gaines is a "tweener" and Douglas can likely play S as well. Maybe Ballentine is the victim here. So my conclusion is that I change 2 things on the roster, plus the Newman/Owens outcomes.

In: Wilson and Owens. Out: Taylor and Ballentine.

I can't honestly remember when 49 or so of the 53 were so black and white.

[texaspackerbacker]

Kickers and Punters are specialized these days to where they usually focus on just the one skill at the expense of the other, so you get a really good punter but iffy kickoff/kicker or vice versa (at the pro level). Who was the last dual K/P who was even league average at both?

Kickers these days make 47-52 yard FGs routinely. 40 years ago those were longshots.

Many of the players who have to make it on ST didn't play a lot of ST in college because they were the stars. That's changed a bit more and GB has started drafting some players who have ST experience in college, but that's part of what makes it tough. Injuries to starters cause ST players to get promoted, and those players have to get backfilled by PS players who might not be as in tune with the ST responsibilities they are taking on, etc. Coaching ST is not easy because there are a lot of moving parts. There are also a number of bad ST coaches (turns out Maurice Drayton was not good at it). Having ST mainstays who can get guys lined up and following their assignments are valuable to ST coaches because they are like on-the-field coaches, and sometimes players take that better from another player who can explain it to them. Keeping one or two ST aces shouldn't wreck your roster, assuming they can at least competently play a handful of emergency snaps at their non-ST position. Jarrett Bush and Jeff Janis mostly could. Rudy Ford can. Dallin Leavitt can't.

True on pretty much all counts. If you had a combo K/P, if he got hurt, you're out to positions. The way it is now, they can back up each other. I recall Mason Crosby being an emergency punter at least once. And Craig Hentrich was a punter who could and did place kick if needed.

Of course, you could go back to the Hornung and Jerry Kramer days and save a couple roster spots hahahaha.

[ThunderDan]

Dan Pasterini QBed and punted for the Houston Oilers back in the 70s.

[run pMc]

Dan Pasterini QBed and punted for the Houston Oilers back in the 70s.

More recently, Tom Tupa did (well, he could but rarely did) for the Jets. Point being those are outliers and we haven't seen one in a long time. I don't think the way the game is now really allows for it, and as tex mentioned, you'd risk being out two positions if your P/K got injured on a kick return or pulled a hammy in warmups.

[King Friday]

I don’t see the team looking externally for help at TE. I think Allen may make the final 53. He’s the kind of blocking TE the team needs. I’m guessing they could fear that he would be nabbed off the practice squad.

Taylor is a lock at RB3. His value on special teams is oversized at this point.

[Fosco33]

Packers cut ODonnell for a rookie - Whelan.

https://twitter.com/byryanwood/status/1696200264552792579?s=42&t=qln1nIlv_JZOHZFOGLClCw

[Fritz]

Packers cut ODonnell for a rookie - Whelan.

https://twitter.com/byryanwood/status/1696200264552792579?s=42&t=qln1nIlv_JZOHZFOGLClCw

I've been rooting for this kid. Apparently the team felt his holding skills were good enough.

O'Donnell was good - they needed someone steady who could hold and punt well enough - but this kid has a big leg. I think this is the year they ride out some of the young guys in hopes they'll develop. I wonder if Bisaccia gets Leavitt and Taylor in exchange for being asked to put up with a rookie punter.

[ThunderDan]

I've been rooting for this kid. Apparently the team felt his holding skills were good enough.

O'Donnell was good - they needed someone steady who could hold and punt well enough - but this kid has a big leg. I think this is the year they ride out some of the young guys in hopes they'll develop. I wonder if Bisaccia gets Leavitt and Taylor in exchange for being asked to put up with a rookie punter.

Whalen hit two bombs on Saturday. Both into the wind. First was 58 yards but out kicked the coverage. The 2nd was 67 and landed on the 4 and skipped into the endzone for a touch back.

[Joemailman]

I just hope his leg doesn't shatter like an icicle when the weather turns cold. I remember JK Scott with some booming punts in warm weather.

[smuggler]

Kinda surprised they opted to go with the young Punter.

[Joemailman]

Kinda surprised they opted to go with the young Punter.

I thought with a rookie kicker they would go with a veteran holder.

[Tony Oday]

Rookie kicker, punter and a first year starting QB...could get interesting

[run pMc]

I thought with a rookie kicker they would go with a veteran holder.

Same, especially given O'Donnell was a guy Bisaccia had a man-crush on for a while, and O'Donnell knows the NFCN stadiums well and how to kick in them. It's an upside move that hopefully won't backfire.
I think after JK Scott and Bojorquez just having someone steady if unspectacular like O'Donnell was ok. Whelan does have a big leg, is cheaper, younger, and has more contract years under team control if he pans out.

Doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies, but I'm not going to speak a ST disaster into existence like when we had Bojo.

Both Carlson and Whelan can boom kicks, it's a question of whether they can do it consistently and with accuracy.

[bobblehead]

Bisaccia going to prove his worth if he gets BOTH those big legs under control. No word on him buying some dimestore glasses ala Charlie Sheen....aka "wild thing"

[jklowan]

initial cuts



DE Ladarius Hamilton (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2251997/ladarius-hamilton/)
QB Danny Etling (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2060804/danny-etling/)
WR Jeff Cotton (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/3159126/jeff-cotton/) (injured)
G Chuck Filiaga (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2878228/chuck-filiaga/) (signed by Saints)
TE Camren McDonald (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/2965370/camren-mcdonald/) (signed by Rams)
OL Jake Hanson
P Pat O'Donnell

[Fritz]

I just hope his leg doesn't shatter like an icicle when the weather turns cold. I remember JK Scott with some booming punts in warm weather.

This is no time to be resurrecting the ghost of JK Scott. This kid's different. Just compare the pictures!

https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/private/t_editorial_landscape_6_desktop/f_auto/chargers/xsca0cidemztspttjlaf.jpg


https://packerswire.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2023/08/e346bf914dac404ea97a7cc337db796c-e1693240853478.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1

[Fritz]

I just hope his leg doesn't shatter like an icicle when the weather turns cold. I remember JK Scott with some booming punts in warm weather.

Oops. Wrong picture above. HERE'S our new punter. Compare that mug to JC Scott's above:

https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/cVVb6UUfPnnA1Z9faNZe5udtCZs=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/SJGOKC7DLVG2ZCHXBLL7NDQV3Q.jpeg

[ThunderDan]

Our punter looks like a LB now.

[run pMc]

Jace Sternberger cut, along with veterans like Christian Kirksey, Desmond King, Kenyan Drake, Colt McCoy, and James Robinson.
(Some were likely cut for cap space)

[Joemailman]

Released/Waived

WR Cody Chrest
OL Cole Schneider
DL Jason Lewan
P Pat O’Donnell

LS Matt Orzech - Will be signed later

RB Lew Nichols - Will be waived with injury settlement.

[Joemailman]

QB:
RB: Lew Nichols, Nate McCrary
WR: Cody Chrest, Dre Miller, Deuce Watts
TE: Austin Allen
OL: Cole Schneider, Jean Delance, Kadeem Talfort

DL: Jason Lewan
OLB:
LB: Jimmy Phillips
CB: Kiondre Thomas, Shemar Jean-Charles, Innis Gaines, Tyrell Ford
S: Benny Sapp

K:
P: Pat O’Donnell
LS: Matt Orzech, Broughton Hatcher

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Cody Chrest, he who stood out in camp for being a sparkling white light in a universe full of dark matter, might never make an NFL team. But his Harvard education and pale skin should serve him well in the real world.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Oops. Wrong picture above. HERE'S our new punter. Compare that mug to JC Scott's above:

https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/cVVb6UUfPnnA1Z9faNZe5udtCZs=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/SJGOKC7DLVG2ZCHXBLL7NDQV3Q.jpeg

In essence, the Packers traded a handsome Irish (O’Donnell) for an ugly Irish (Whelen).

Good thing looks are irrelevant in the NFL. Ex-Pack, Ryan Grant, is one handsome fellow. Mad’s boi, Davante Adams, not so much. Guess who had the better career in the Green and Mustard Yellow?

[Fritz]

QB:
RB: Lew Nichols, Nate McCrary
WR: Cody Chrest
TE: Austin Allen
OL: Cole Schneider, Jean Delance

DL: Jason Lewan
OLB:
LB: Jimmy Phillips
CB: Kiondre Thomas, Shemar Jean-Charles, Innis Gaines
S:

K:
P: Pat O’Donnell
LS: Matt Orzech

Ah, so the Shemale Jean Claude Van Damme era comes to an end.

I am a bit surprised Innis Gaines was cut so soon. I thought the idea was that if you want to keep a guy around for the PS, you cut him last-minute in hopes that his name will get lost in the wash of all the cuts at the end. But I am guessing. Or maybe they don't want him on the PS.

I am unsure of what you meant above about Orzech being signed at a later date (?) So he was cut, but there's a hitch?

[SudsMcBucky]

Ah, so the Shemale Jean Claude Van Damme era comes to an end.

I am a bit surprised Innis Gaines was cut so soon. I thought the idea was that if you want to keep a guy around for the PS, you cut him last-minute in hopes that his name will get lost in the wash of all the cuts at the end. But I am guessing. Or maybe they don't want him on the PS.

I am unsure of what you meant above about Orzech being signed at a later date (?) So he was cut, but there's a hitch?

Or may Gute is playing 4 dimensional chess while the rest of the league is playing checkers.

[run pMc]

I am unsure of what you meant above about Orzech being signed at a later date (?) So he was cut, but there's a hitch?

Bill Huber is reporting that they are going to sign him back. Probably means they want to keep a guy like Tarvarius Moore or Dontayvion Wicks thru the cutdown and then IR them so they can bring them back in-season. If you get put on IR before cutdowns you're done for the year. They could easily cut both LS and resign whichever they liked better (Orzech). It's basically an end-around way to keep 53 and manage injuries.

[run pMc]

I could see Gute and Co. looking for a S, G, or TE in the cuts to bring in. Will depend on who they keep and who is out there.

[Joemailman]

Ah, so the Shemale Jean Claude Van Damme era comes to an end.

I am a bit surprised Innis Gaines was cut so soon. I thought the idea was that if you want to keep a guy around for the PS, you cut him last-minute in hopes that his name will get lost in the wash of all the cuts at the end. But I am guessing. Or maybe they don't want him on the PS.

I am unsure of what you meant above about Orzech being signed at a later date (?) So he was cut, but there's a hitch?

Orzech was cut. But my understanding is because he's a veteran, he doesn't have to clear waivers. He immediately becomes a free agent. So the Packers can work out a contract with him and release him today with the understanding he will be signed tomorrow. The reason they would do this is because they have a player (Wicks?) who they want to put on IR. But if the put him on IR before the final cutdown he is out for the year. So they want to carry him on the roster today and put him on IR tomorrow. At which point they would sign Orzech to the roster. I think that's what's going on here.

[Joemailman]

Brenton Cox has been told he's made the team. Malik Heath apparently has been told the same.

[Joemailman]

QB:
RB: Lew Nichols, Nate McCrary
WR: Cody Chrest, Dre Miller, Deuce Watts
TE: Austin Allen
OL: Cole Schneider, Jean Delance, Kadeem Talfort

DL: Jason Lewan
OLB:
LB: Jimmy Phillips, Marvin Pierre
CB: Kiondre Thomas, Shemar Jean-Charles, Innis Gaines, Tyrell Ford, William Hooper
S: Benny Sapp

K:
P: Pat O’Donnell
LS: Matt Orzech, Broughton Hatcher

[Joemailman]

Cody Chrest, he who stood out in camp for being a sparkling white light in a universe full of dark matter, might never make an NFL team. But his Harvard education and pale skin should serve him well in the real world.

He should have bulked up and tried out for Tight End on the Packers.

[bobblehead]

Or may Gute is playing 4 dimensional chess while the rest of the league is playing checkers.

I hate that saying. Usually when people say it, the game being played IS CHECKERS. If you are playing 4 dimensional chess you are probably losing.

[SudsMcBucky]

I hate that saying. Usually when people say it, the game being played IS CHECKERS. If you are playing 4 dimensional chess you are probably losing.

Or maybe I was kidding around.

[bobblehead]

No big shocks yet. Gaines was 1 thing I got wrong so far. The punter I hedged so probably half wrong.

[Joemailman]

QB:
RB: Lew Nichols, Nate McCrary
WR: Cody Chrest, Dre Miller, Deuce Watts
TE: Austin Allen
OL: Cole Schneider, Jean Delance, Kadeem Talfort, James Empey

DL: Jason Lewan, Chris Slayton
OLB:
LB: Jimmy Phillips, Marvin Pierre
CB: Kiondre Thomas, Shemar Jean-Charles, Innis Gaines, Tyrell Ford, William Hooper, Corey Ballentine
S: Benny Sapp, Tarvarius Moore

K:
P: Pat O’Donnell
LS: Matt Orzech, Broughton Hatcher

Tarvarius Moore will be getting injury settlement. Emanuel Wilson has been told he has made the team.

[Joemailman]

Here's the initial roster. Matt Orzech will be signed tomorrow, with someone cut or placed on IR.


QB (2): 8 Sean Clifford, 10 Jordan Love
Released: 17 Alex McGough

RB (3): 28 AJ Dillon, 31 Emanuel Wilson, 33 Aaron Jones
Waived/injured: 32 Lew Nichols, 39 Tyler Goodson
Released: 27 Patrick Taylor, 46 Nate McCrary


WR (6): 9 Christian Watson, 11 Jayden Reed, 13 Dontayvion Wicks, 18 Malik Heath, 83 Samori Toure, 87 Romeo Doubs
Released: 6 Jadakis Bonds, 16 Dre Miller, 22 Duece Watts, 80 Bo Melton, 82 Cody Chrest, 86 Grant DuBose

TE/FB (3): 81 Josiah Deguara, 85 Tyler Kraft, 88 Luke Musgrave
Released: 44 Henry Pearson, 49 Austin Allen

OL (11): 50 Zach Tom, 63 Rasheed Walker, 69 David Bakhtiari, 70 Royce Newman, 71 Josh Myers, 72 Caleb Jones, 73 Yosh Nijman, 74 Elgton Jenkins, 75 Sean Rhyan, 76 Jon Runyan, 78 Luke Tenuta
Released: 62 James Empey, 63 Cole Schneider, 77 Kadeem Telfort, 79 Jean Delance

DL (6): 93 T.J. Slaton, 95 Devonte Wyatt, 96 Colby Wooden, 94 Karl Brooks, 97 Kenny Clark, 99 Jonathan Ford
Released: 60 Jason Lewan, 64 Antonio Moultrie, 98 Chris Slayton

OLB (6): 47 Justin Hollins, 52 Rashan Gary, 55 Kingsley Enagbare, 57 Brenton Cox Jr., 90 Lukas Van Ness, 91 Preston Smith
Released: 51 Keshawn Banks, 53 Arron Mosby, 56 Kenneth Odumegwu


ILB (5): 7 Quay Walker, 24 Tariq Carpenter, 45 Eric Wilson, 58 Isaiah McDuffie, 59 De'Vondre Campbell
Released: 46 Jimmy Phillips Jr., 54 Marvin Pierre

CB (4): 23 Jaire Alexander, 25 Keisean Nixon, 29 Rasul Douglas, 37 Carrington Valentine
Physically unable to perform: 21 Eric Stokes
Released: 19 Elijah Hamilton, 22 Shemar Jean-Charles, 27 William Hooper, 35 Corey Ballentine, 40 Tyrell Ford, 43 Kiondre Thomas

S (5): 6 Dallin Leavitt, 20 Rudy Ford, 26 Darnell Savage, 34 Jonathan Owens, 36 Anthony Johnson Jr.
Injured reserve: 30 Tarvarius Moore
Released: 38 Innis Gaines, 48 Benny Sapp III

Spec. (2): 17 Anders Carlson, 41 Daniel Whelan
Waived/injured:43 Broughton Hatcher Released: 42 Matt Orzech, 16 Pat O'Donnell (Aug. 28)

[run pMc]

This is a very young team.

I gotta think they are going to put Tenuta on IR tomorrow. Carrying 11 OL is a LOT of linemen and they need to move someone for Orzech.
Carrying 4 CB and 3 TE is unexpected too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another move happening this week at TE. I'm guessing they will sign Ballentine and they want Austin Allen back on the PS, they could call them up a couple times too and then let injuries etc. sort out the rest. Stokes on PUP buys some time.

Bisaccia is going to earn his paycheck this year.

[ThunderDan]

Here's the initial roster. Matt Orzech will be signed tomorrow, with someone cut or placed on IR.

Tenuta will go to IR and probably someone else. Need a LS and a 5th Corner.

[Joemailman]

My stab at the 53/69 man roster:

QB (2) Love, Clifford
RB (3) Jones, Dillon, Taylor
WR (6) Watson, Doubs, Toure, Reed, Wicks, Heath
TE (4) DeGuara, Musgrave, Kraft, Waiver Pickup
OL (9) Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Myers, Runyan, Tom, Walker, Nijman, Rhyan, Jones

DL (6) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks, Ford
LB (4) Campbell, Walker, McDuffie, Carpenter
EDGE (6) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Hollins, Cox
CB (5) Alexander, Ballentine, Douglas, Nixon, Valentine
S (5) Ford, Gaines, Johnson, Leavitt, Savage

ST (3) Carlson, O'Donnell, Orzech

Pup: Stokes

Traded: Newman

Practice Squad:

McGough
Tyler Goodson, Emanuel Wilson
Jadakis Bonds, Grant DuBose, Cody Chrest
Austin Allen
Cole Schneider, Kadeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta
Chris Slayton
Eric Wilson
Kiondre Thomas
Tarvarius Moore, Jonathan Owens
Daniel Whelan

QB: Got it right
RB: Gute went with Wilson over Taylor
WR: Got it right
TE: I had Gute getting waiver wire pickup. Could happen yet.
OL: I didn't have Newman or Tenuta making it. Tenuta may go to IR tomorrow.
DL: Got it right
LB: Gute kept Wilson and went with 5.
EDGE: Got it right.
CB: I had Ballentine making it.
S: I had Gaines instead of Owens
ST: I had O'Donnell over Whelan

[Joemailman]

Tenuta will go to IR and probably someone else. Need a LS and a 5th Corner.

I don't know if they'll add a 5th corner. They might just activate guys off PS until Stokes is back.

[Joemailman]

Daire Carragher
@DaireCarragher
With an average roster age of 24.9 years old, the 2023 Packers are the youngest NFL roster in the last six years!*

(the last team to be younger was the 2017 browns who went 0-16…)


Jason Wilde
@jasonjwilde

The average age of the 53 players currently on the #Packers roster is 24.98 years old. Broken down by age:

31 — 1
30 — 2
29 — 2
28 — 4
27 — 4
26 — 6
25 — 8
24 — 9
23 — 10
22 — 6
21 — 1.

[Fritz]

I don't know if they'll add a 5th corner. They might just activate guys off PS until Stokes is back.

I was overwhelmed with sadness when I saw that Rolled Royce made the team.

I was surprised they kept Luke TheTuna, but it sounds as if he'll be put on IR.

A little surprised they kept five inside linebackers.

Bisaccia is going to earn his money this year, and I'll bet he went to bat hard for Leavitt, because he needs someone out on the field who can get the team lined up correctly.

I'm hoping Dubose will land on the PS.

Damn that's a young team. I hope the medical staff is loading up on acne cream.

[texaspackerbacker]

Did anybody else read the article about how they handled the Orzech situation?

The O Lineman that got hurt, Tenuta, should be medically able to come back in a few weeks. By keeping him on the 53 and IRing him tomorrow, they can take him off IR in 4 weeks - if they put him on IR today, he'd be lost for the season. So they keep him then IR him tomorrow and bring back Orzech to the 53. A pretty slick move.

[MadScientist]

Did anybody else read the article about how they handled the Orzech situation?

The O Lineman that got hurt, Tenuta, should be medically able to come back in a few weeks. By keeping him on the 53 and IRing him tomorrow, they can take him off IR in 4 weeks - if they put him on IR today, he'd be lost for the season. So they keep him then IR him tomorrow and bring back Orzech to the 53. A pretty slick move.

It's not an uncommon tactic. The key is to make sure the guy you cut is not going to be claimed. LS is a pretty good option for that, as all other teams are going to have one, and they most likely don't want to make a change now and disrupt their field goal unit.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Did anybody else read the article about how they handled the Orzech situation?

The O Lineman that got hurt, Tenuta, should be medically able to come back in a few weeks. By keeping him on the 53 and IRing him tomorrow, they can take him off IR in 4 weeks - if they put him on IR today, he'd be lost for the season. So they keep him then IR him tomorrow and bring back Orzech to the 53. A pretty slick move.

Mailman did mention something about Orzech amid the white noises about Cody Chrest and the Packers being the first team in the NFL since 1962 to field an all-white TE corps.

[MadScientist]

I was overwhelmed with sadness when I saw that Rolled Royce made the team.

I was surprised they kept Luke TheTuna, but it sounds as if he'll be put on IR.

A little surprised they kept five inside linebackers.

Bisaccia is going to earn his money this year, and I'll bet he went to bat hard for Leavitt, because he needs someone out on the field who can get the team lined up correctly.

I'm hoping Dubose will land on the PS.

Damn that's a young team. I hope the medical staff is loading up on acne cream.

Royce is on the team due to a lack of depth at guard. They only kept 4 ILB, as Levitt is the 4 ST specialist not a ILB. DuBose won't get claimed, but he might go for the PS on a team that isn't so deep and young at WR.

[Joemailman]

Royce is on the team due to a lack of depth at guard. They only kept 4 ILB, as Levitt is the 4 ST specialist not a ILB. DuBose won't get claimed, but he might go for the PS on a team that isn't so deep and young at WR.

Leavitt is a S, not an ILB.

[MadtownPacker]

Or maybe I was kidding around.
No man you are right, Bobble is playing 4D checkers. :-D

Huge fan of the youth movement. Long overdue! Maybe now we won’t see the offense get abused by physical teams.

[Fritz]

Royce is on the team due to a lack of depth at guard. They only kept 4 ILB, as Levitt is the 4 ST specialist not a ILB. DuBose won't get claimed, but he might go for the PS on a team that isn't so deep and young at WR.

Inside linebackers: Walker, Campbell, McDuffie, Wilson, Carpenter.

[Joemailman]

INDIANAPOLIS -- The Miami Dolphins weren't the only team interested in acquiring Jonathan Taylor from the Indianapolis Colts.

The Green Bay Packers also were in talks with the Colts and had legitimate interest in trading for the star running back, sources told ESPN.

Indianapolis moved forward after its self-imposed deadline of Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET came and went without receiving what the team deemed an acceptable offer for Taylor, who requested a trade last month and was authorized by the Colts last week to seek out a trade partner.

But the Packers emerging as a contender remains relevant because Taylor can still be traded, even though he is on the reserve-physically unable to perform list and therefore must miss at least the first four games of the regular season.

A source told ESPN that there is still trade interest in Taylor and the All-Pro would still welcome a trade. The NFL's trade deadline is Oct. 31.



Didn't see that coming.

[Joemailman]

LB Keshawn Banks added to practice squad.

[run pMc]

LB Keshawn Banks added to practice squad.

So far the signings are:
WR Grant DuBose
TE Austin Allen
OL Kadeem Telfort
OL James Empey
OLB Keshawn Banks
CB Kiondre Thomas
CB Innis Gaines
SAF Benny Sapp III

Glad to see Dubose and Allen on the PS.

They've also picked up S Zayne Anderson and TE Ben Sims (who they brought in on a pre-draft 30 visit), so they are 2 over the 53 limit, and Orzech isn't signed yet. More moves happening.

[run pMc]

I was overwhelmed with sadness when I saw that Rolled Royce made the team.

I was surprised they kept Luke TheTuna, but it sounds as if he'll be put on IR.

A little surprised they kept five inside linebackers.

Bisaccia is going to earn his money this year, and I'll bet he went to bat hard for Leavitt, because he needs someone out on the field who can get the team lined up correctly.

I'm hoping Dubose will land on the PS.

Damn that's a young team. I hope the medical staff is loading up on acne cream.

Wasn't sure Newman was going to make it. It's crazy how a guy who was serviceable as a rookie for 1000+ snaps on a 13 win team could regress so much. Their IOL depth is iffy.

They like Tenuta; he got a handful of regular snaps last year and was ahead of Rasheed Walker and Caleb Jones. It's possible he got even better, although I think they really like Rasheed.

5 ILBs is heavy, but 3 of them are ST mainstays and Devondre is hurt.

Very young team. Lots of upside, lots of highs and lows this year. Some of these young players won't amount to anything, but the future could be very bright.

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky

The Packers are releasing ILB Tariq Carpenter, according to a source. That's one of the moves to make room for a waiver claim.


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The Green Bay Packers claimed defensive back Zayne Anderson from Buffalo Bills and tight end Ben Sims from Minnesota Vikings on Wednesday.

Anderson is a safety who has never played a snap on defense in 2 years with Chiefs. He was a core ST player.

Sims is a rookie UDFA who signed with Minnesota. He has a reputation as a good blocker.

[Joemailman]

Here are the players the Packers are signing to their Practice Squad so far:

T Kadeem Telfort
TE Austin Allen
LB Keyshawn Banks
S Benny Sapp III
WR Grant DuBose
CB Kiondre Thomas
CB/S Innis Gaines
C James Empey
WR Bo Melton

[run pMc]

Packers release DL J. Ford

McGough, Pearson, Ballentine, C.Slayton, A.Mosby signed to the PS.

[Fritz]

Packers release DL J. Ford

McGough, Pearson, Ballentine, C.Slayton, A.Mosby signed to the PS.

They just flat-out released Jonathan Ford? That's a surprise - they carried him all last year on the 53 and he didn't play a snap, then had what was supposedly a good pre-season this year.

That's a head-scratcher.

I'm guessing the new safety they picked up is a far better ST player than Tariq Carpenter, and in his brief time as an inside linebacker Carpenter must not have shown enough for them to go through any special teams growing pains.

The new tight end is not a surprise.

I'm curious what they'll do to lose another guy off the current 53, since they seem to have dropped Carpenter and Ford. I'm going to guess Tenuta goes on IR. That's a lot of linemen they have. Unless they get weird and try to trade Nijman.

That was a head-scratcher, that article about the Pack being interested in Taylor. Why pay a back big money when you've got such a young team? Weird.

[Joemailman]

They just flat-out released Jonathan Ford? That's a surprise - they carried him all last year on the 53 and he didn't play a snap, then had what was supposedly a good pre-season this year.

That's a head-scratcher.

I'm guessing the new safety they picked up is a far better ST player than Tariq Carpenter, and in his brief time as an inside linebacker Carpenter must not have shown enough for them to go through any special teams growing pains.

The new tight end is not a surprise.

I'm curious what they'll do to lose another guy off the current 53, since they seem to have dropped Carpenter and Ford. I'm going to guess Tenuta goes on IR. That's a lot of linemen they have. Unless they get weird and try to trade Nijman.

That was a head-scratcher, that article about the Pack being interested in Taylor. Why pay a back big money when you've got such a young team? Weird.

I thought Ford started out strong but tailed off a bit. He wasn't very good against Seattle.

Gute said in his PC they won't be at 11 OL very long. Like you said, Tenuta likely to IR.

I doubt they were close to a deal for Jonathan Taylor. Just not the way they do business.

The Tight End is someone they had in for a pre-draft visit. They tried to sign him as an UDFA.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ford and Carpenter will likely be back on the PS--unless they get claimed.

[Fritz]

I'm going to guess Ford will be but Carpenter won't be.

Just a guess.

[Joemailman]

Carpenter was someone who didn't seem very happy about the position switch. They might have not liked his attitude.

[Fritz]

I think it was the getting switched from safety to (briefly) OLB, then inside, that threw him. He didn't seem comfortable - didn't sound like a quick study, sounds like a guy who needs time to soak it all in. I get that. It's got to be tough.

But as teams are always looking for those big bodies, my guess is that Ford would be more likely to be claimed than Carpenter. Maybe they kept Ford on the 53 initially so other teams would load up their practice squads and perhaps be more likely to pass on him. But again, I'm just guessing.

This time of year always offers moves from the team that you find puzzling. In the end, most of them don't matter a whole lot.

I will say that Malik Heath seems to be a real diamond, and maybe not even too much in the rough. There must be a Green Bay scout somewhere who has a giant boner right now over that find.

I am hoping Sims can become the blocking-type guy they need. In the meantime, he can work on the other parts of his game. But they need someone who can block and play some ST, I think.

[QBME]

I think it was the getting switched from safety to (briefly) OLB, then inside, that threw him. He didn't seem comfortable - didn't sound like a quick study, sounds like a guy who needs time to soak it all in. I get that. It's got to be tough.

But as teams are always looking for those big bodies, my guess is that Ford would be more likely to be claimed than Carpenter. Maybe they kept Ford on the 53 initially so other teams would load up their practice squads and perhaps be more likely to pass on him. But again, I'm just guessing.

This time of year always offers moves from the team that you find puzzling. In the end, most of them don't matter a whole lot.

I will say that Malik Heath seems to be a real diamond, and maybe not even too much in the rough. There must be a Green Bay scout somewhere who has a giant boner right now over that find.

I am hoping Sims can become the blocking-type guy they need. In the meantime, he can work on the other parts of his game. But they need someone who can block and play some ST, I think.

Was watching GMF on tv this morning and Malik Heath was referred to as "Matt Lafluer's downfield thug."

No shit.

WTF?

LaFluer looks like he's ready to cry every time I see him on camera.

And he has a downfield thug??

[Joemailman]

Was watching GMF on tv this morning and Malik Heath was referred to as "Matt Lafluer's downfield thug."

No shit.

WTF?

LaFluer looks like he's ready to cry every time I see him on camera.

And he has a downfield thug??

LaFleur has referred to Heath, and Lazard before him, as his goon. LaFleur is from Michigan. He knows his hockey terminology.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

When I first read about the Packers signing Ben Sims, I was like, cool. My head was like, Ernie Sims, Michael Sam, Dickey Simpkins.

Then I googled Ben Sims. Much to my dismay, the all-white TE corps has just gotten whiter. What ever happened to J-Mike, Brandon Williams, Brandon Bostick, Tyrone Williams, Ed Harris, Bubba Franks, Mercedes Lewis, Keith Jackson, and hell, even albino Jimmy Graham?

[run pMc]

Careful APB, even in jest, that racist crap about the TE corps could get you banned.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Careful APB, even in jest, that racist crap about the TE corps could get you banned.

Seriously, I’ve been a die-hard Pack fan since 9-20-92, the day Bert Favor excreted out the rock 4 times but ended up throwing the dagger to Kendrick Taylor, and I don’t think the Packers have ever fielded an all-white TE corps til this season.

For every Mark Chmura, Jeff Thompson, and Ben Steel, there’s a Richard Rodgers, Lance Kendrick, and Dominique Dafney. J-Mike has gotta be the most Wu-Tang (skillful) TE in Packers history.

Btw, I would like to correct some names. Should be Tyrone “Davis”, “DJ” Williams and Ed “West”.

Btw II, Jimmy Graham, despite experiencing a recent mental breakdown, has made the Sodom/Gomorrah Sinners’ 53.