How Will J-Love's Career Play Out?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Inspired by Vincenzo's Love Era thread.

If Love's the "Great Black hope," god-willing, we all will still be around in 15 years to bump up this lovely thread. Tony ODay, for one, is hoping for to Love fail and the Packer to tank for Golden White Boi, Archibald Manning.

BTW: Where the fuck is Harrell?

[texaspackerbacker]

Mahomes is closer to H of F than just good unless his career is shortened by injury. I doubt Love quite comes up to that level, but I could easily see him as better than all but 3 or 4 QBs now starting.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Mahomes is closer to H of F than just good unless his career is shortened by injury. I doubt Love quite comes up to that level, but I could easily see him as better than all but 3 or 4 QBs now starting.

You’re an extreme homer, Tex. Clifford could be starting and you’d still think he’s top 10. lol Hopefully Love will at least give us hope this season.

I would hate to have to go back to the poker tables if the season’s over by week 6 - you know, to drown out the sorrow of the Packers sucking. After a fat fish busted me the other day with garbage, before I quit, I intentionally berated her in front of the entire room. Called her a fat fuck who’s luckier than a gay guy in a gay bar full of gay men. The aim was that the embarrassment would keep me away from playing poker at the casino in the future.

[smuggler]

Only guys I would 100% rather have than Love are

Mahomes
Burrow
Herbert
Allen
and maybe Jalen Hurts, although I'd like to see one more year before I was certain

Tua has a weaker arm and has the concussion issues.
Lamar Jackson is too run-first

Everyone else is either a totally unproven, ancient, terrible, or Love is just as likely to become the better player.

[RashanGary]

Only guys I would 100% rather have than Love are

Mahomes
Burrow
Herbert
Allen
and maybe Jalen Hurts, although I'd like to see one more year before I was certain

Tua has a weaker arm and has the concussion issues.
Lamar Jackson is too run-first

Everyone else is either a totally unproven, ancient, terrible, or Love is just as likely to become the better player.

I love the optimism! I’m still not sold on Love, but damn it, he’s making me more optimistic every day! He could be great!

[texaspackerbacker]

You’re an extreme homer, Tex. Clifford could be starting and you’d still think he’s top 10. lol Hopefully Love will at least give us hope this season.

I would hate to have to go back to the poker tables if the season’s over by week 6 - you know, to drown out the sorrow of the Packers sucking. After a fat fish busted me the other day with garbage, before I quit, I intentionally berated her in front of the entire room. Called her a fat fuck who’s luckier than a gay guy in a gay bar full of gay men. The aim was that the embarrassment would keep me away from playing poker at the casino in the future.

You mean they banned you? Good for YOU if they did.

The way Clifford has played, that might be true. Let the record show, I was one of very few who was happy about drafting him where they did. I'm now thinking if Love got hurt or floundered,Clifford could take this loaded team pretty far about the same as Love.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You mean they banned you? Good for YOU if they did.

The way Clifford has played, that might be true. Let the record show, I was one of very few who was happy about drafting him where they did. I'm now thinking if Love got hurt or floundered,Clifford could take this loaded team pretty far about the same as Love.

I ain’t banned from casino. I purposely embarrassed myself in front of the entire room to hopefully discourage myself from playing anymore poker. The professional player never berates the fish. As a burger flipper making $15/hr, I simply lack the bankroll to be a long-term winning player.

Btw, it’s good to see Harrell back in the grind.

[RashanGary]

I ain’t banned from casino. I purposely embarrassed myself in front of the entire room to hopefully discourage myself from playing anymore poker. The professional player never berates the fish. As a burger flipper making $15/hr, I simply lack the bankroll to be a long-term winning player.

Btw, it’s good to see Harrell back in the grind.

Been busy. Shopped like a psycho for an engagement ring and summer events with the kids. No time. No time. Thanks though. Good to see you guys. I didn’t plan on just disappearing, but i took pr off my front page of my browser and just happened to never check for 2 months.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Been busy. Shopped like a psycho for an engagement ring and summer events with the kids. No time. No time. Thanks though. Good to see you guys. I didn’t plan on just disappearing, but i took pr off my front page of my browser and just happened to never check for 2 months.

Wait, you’re getting married? How you, a macho man who believes women are good for only two things - pleasure and bearing fruits - is able to find love, while I, sophisticated romantic, can’t even get a date is beyond logic.

Envy aside, congrats on the engagement. I know you don’t like Snow Patrol, but “Chasing Cars” would make a nice wedding song.

Glad you’re back.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What is up, folks. I have returned from my darkness retreat. The darkness insisted that I quit being a timid wanker and quit flipping burgers before Father Time fucks me up. She (darkness), however, failed to explain the logic behind the dismantling of timidness. Much to Tony O’Day’s delight, I remain too timid to quit burger flipping.

I hate to echo that creep, Skinny Basket, somewhat, but after 4 games as QB1, Love looks like the stereotypical Black QB: athletic, inaccurate, inconsistent and “not smart enough.”

How inaccurate is Love? Tim Tebow was more accurate than Love, and Tebow couldn’t complete a pass to a wide open Notre Dame. Love is so inconsistent, he only shows up during what Tebow would call “Tebow time.” No smart QB would throw a 11 yard lateral while he’s about to be sacked, as Love did against the Pussies of Detroit.

And some folks mock Butte for rolling his eyes and whatnot after a bad play. Much like Brady and his “fuck!” outburst after a foul play, Butte doing Butte goes to show that Butte gives a fuck. Love throws a pick and he’s stoic as a long-term winning poker player. I’m like, what the fuck, show some fucking emotions, hombre! Love’s like, football is a meaningless game in the grand scale of life; I get to go home to a fat check and a hot chick, so who gives a fuck?

Unlike that creep, Skinny Basket, I still believe Love will eventually morph into the “great Black hope.” But at this moment in space-time, Love ain’t Wu-Tang enough to carry the Packers. In the darkness, I trained my mind to quit this lost cause of a Packer season.

[texaspackerbacker]

I guess it must have been one week, not two. Good. Welcome back. In a weird sort of way, you're good for this place.

I don't really agree that Love is all that inaccurate. It seems like the bad passes he's had (and there really haven't been that many) are the product of miscommunication - hard to tell whether he or the receiver is wrong, or doing things like not putting enough air under a throw, etc. That stuff is mostly curable with experience and good attitude/work ethic which Love seems to have. Maybe you just don't like him because he ain't a Kaepernick-esque piece of shit hahahaha.

Love has surprised me by being more athletic than I thought. It's not that Lamar Jackson sort of thing - what you call "stereotypical Black QB". It's more like Mahomes - moving as needed to set up a throw, and having the ability to gain yardage when it's needed. And he has been very Aaron Rodgers-like in not throwing interceptions. Mahomes has been the icon of that sort of thing, but recently he doesn't seem as careful as he used to be. Hopefully Love soaked up enough of the good side of Rodgers to continue the way he has started.

I guess I ain't "Wu-tang" enough to even know what that shit means, but what I do know is that Love has been doing a suprisingly good job already of carrying the Packers - I for one am still expecting a great season. And "great Black hope” or whatever you might call it, I'm not ruling out lightning striking a third time for the Packers and Love being yet another HOF QB.

[bobblehead]

Only guys I would 100% rather have than Love are

Mahomes
Burrow
Herbert
Allen
and maybe Jalen Hurts, although I'd like to see one more year before I was certain

Tua has a weaker arm and has the concussion issues.
Lamar Jackson is too run-first

Everyone else is either a totally unproven, ancient, terrible, or Love is just as likely to become the better player.

I can go with this except I am firmly in the Hurts is pretty fucking good category now. So for me put him in the big 5. Although I really believe its a Maholmes first, Burrow next, then a big 3. Maholmes is this generation of QBs G.O.A.T. so I can't possibly predict Love as his equal. I'll be happy with a poor man's maholmes. He has shown the signs. He has talent around him. We need to fix the running game.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I guess it must have been one week, not two. Good. Welcome back. In a weird sort of way, you're good for this place.

I don't really agree that Love is all that inaccurate. It seems like the bad passes he's had (and there really haven't been that many) are the product of miscommunication - hard to tell whether he or the receiver is wrong, or doing things like not putting enough air under a throw, etc. That stuff is mostly curable with experience and good attitude/work ethic which Love seems to have. Maybe you just don't like him because he ain't a Kaepernick-esque piece of shit hahahaha.

Love has surprised me by being more athletic than I thought. It's not that Lamar Jackson sort of thing - what you call "stereotypical Black QB". It's more like Mahomes - moving as needed to set up a throw, and having the ability to gain yardage when it's needed. And he has been very Aaron Rodgers-like in not throwing interceptions. Mahomes has been the icon of that sort of thing, but recently he doesn't seem as careful as he used to be. Hopefully Love soaked up enough of the good side of Rodgers to continue the way he has started.

I guess I ain't "Wu-tang" enough to even know what that shit means, but what I do know is that Love has been doing a suprisingly good job already of carrying the Packers - I for one am still expecting a great season. And "great Black hope” or whatever you might call it, I'm not ruling out lightning striking a third time for the Packers and Love being yet another HOF QB.

What makes you think the 2023 Packers will be great?

If not for Carr being KO-ed, this team would be sitting at 1-3 right now. Defense continues to underachieve, as it has been since Super Bowl 45. The Italian special teams coach remains overpaid as his units are averaging 2 fuck ups per game. Offensively, Detroit exposed the Yokozunas (fat guys); Love ain’t capable (at least not yet) of carrying the team on his back; and Watson has the biggest vag not seen in cold, dark and dull Green Bay since the Claymaker.

I have already resigned myself to a disappointing season, and I’ve a tons of flicks lined up on Netflix and Hulu to, hopefully, drown out the sorrow. The only positive is, I ain’t played a hand of poker in 7 weeks.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I can go with this except I am firmly in the Hurts is pretty fucking good category now. So for me put him in the big 5. Although I really believe it’s Maholmes first, Burrow next, then a big 3. Maholmes is this generation of QBs G.O.A.T. so I can't possibly predict Love as his equal. I'll be happy with a poor man's maholmes. He has shown the signs. He has talent around him. We need to fix the running game.

Love has also shown signs of Brett Hundley. See 4th quarter of Atlanta game, first 3 quarters of New Orleans game and first half of Detroit game. Sure, at times he looked Wu-Tang, but Love has gotta improve his accuracy, consistency, and - I am guessing it will come with experience - football IQ.

[RashanGary]

Let’s get the raiders game in the books and I’ll be ready for some new prognostication.

Then I’ll be curious to see the 4 games after the bye.



By that point I’m going to have enough information to make my 100% foolproof prediction on who he is as an NFL quarterback.

[texaspackerbacker]

What makes you think the 2023 Packers will be great?

If not for Carr being KO-ed, this team would be sitting at 1-3 right now. Defense continues to underachieve, as it has been since Super Bowl 45. The Italian special teams coach remains overpaid as his units are averaging 2 fuck ups per game. Offensively, Detroit exposed the Yokozunas (fat guys); Love ain’t capable (at least not yet) of carrying the team on his back; and Watson has the biggest vag not seen in cold, dark and dull Green Bay since the Claymaker.

I have already resigned myself to a disappointing season, and I’ve a tons of flicks lined up on Netflix and Hulu to, hopefully, drown out the sorrow. The only positive is, I ain’t played a hand of poker in 7 weeks.

And they could just as well be 3-1 if not for the freaky debacle against Atlanta.

Congrats on your abstention. Let us know when you get your 6 month pin hahahaha.

[Joemailman]

And they could just as well be 3-1 if not for the freaky debacle against Atlanta.

Congrats on your abstention. Let us know when you get your 6 month pin hahahaha.

They're right where they should be. Dominated one game. Got dominated one game. Lost a game they should have won. Won a game they should have lost.

[sharpe1027]

They're right where they should be. Dominated one game. Got dominated one game. Lost a game they should have won. Won a game they should have lost.

Agreed

[MadtownPacker]

They're right where they should be. Dominated one game. Got dominated one game. Lost a game they should have won. Won a game they should have lost.
But these groupie hoes think Packers are Chiefs level! It seems like Why people have more cognitive issues as they age so could explain why they are crying about being .500. Had you asked them in August if that would suffice they would have claimed it was out of reach.

[Upnorth]

After 4 games I though i would know more about Lve than I do. I think he has untapped potential, but he might suck. I thought he was garbage for the first 24 hours after the draft, then i thought he had untapped potential and not suck. so 3+yrs in and i still dont know what i really think of him. Just hopes dreams and a pile of BS

[call_me_ishmael]

Mahomes is closer to H of F than just good unless his career is shortened by injury. I doubt Love quite comes up to that level, but I could easily see him as better than all but 3 or 4 QBs now starting.

LOL

[sharpe1027]

Love did a great job of staying calm under constant pressure. He seems to be making good decisions even when pressured. He's got the arm to make difficult throws. He's does miss opportunities due to inaccurate throws.

I think he's gonna start a lot of games in the NFL. I don't think he's going to consistently carry a team by throwing for anyone if yards.

[Joemailman]

LOL

It may be unlikely that Love will be a top 5 QB. But I don't think the idea is laughable. So far, he's mostly had to play without his best RB, best WR, and 2 best OL. We don't yet know what he can do with a full arsenal of weapons. He's had little running game to rely on, and a shaky OL since Jenkins followed Bakhtiari to the sidelines.

[sharpe1027]

It may be unlikely that Love will be a top 5 QB. But I don't think the idea is laughable. So far, he's mostly had to play without his best RB, best WR, and 2 best OL. We don't yet know what he can do with a full arsenal of weapons. He's had little running game to rely on, and a shaky OL since Jenkins followed Bakhtiari to the sidelines.

I think it's a bit laughable if is anyone claiming they know one way or another with certainty.

[run pMc]

I think there's really three checkpoints here to determine the career arc:
(1) First game or two
(2) After 6-8 games
(3) Early next season

I think he's okay; Arm strength, poise and decision making are good and likely to improve. Accuracy is a concern. Not sure how much he can or will improve there, maybe he can work on it in the offseason but I think he's going to be a gunslinger type QB who flirts with making the top 10 in his best seasons. I also think they'll probably extend him to an overpaying contract and look to move on in about 5-7 years after a few quick Kirk Cousins-esque playoff exits. I could be very wrong here, it's only been 4 games, but that's the vibe I get from him. He's still better than anything the Bears have had in the last 30 years.

I think his floor is Jameis Winston and his ceiling is a Donovan McNabb type of player.

[sharpe1027]

He's still better than anything the Bears have had in the last 30 years.


Talk about setting the bar low.....

[call_me_ishmael]

I think it's a bit laughable if is anyone claiming they know one way or another with certainty.

Certainly but the assertation and boldness of the projection is laughably unlikely. Probability is supremely low

[Jaire]

How about "too early to say?" And this team has had too many key injuries since 2020 it seems. Love deserves at least a season and then several games with a healthy squad. He's got a really good receiver core for the next few years. Add a couple oline man and give him a couple years.

And Hurts is a stud. He may never be a G.O.A.T but barring injury, I will always look forward to watching him. He's such a chill, soft spoken dude as well: love his character.

[sharpe1027]

Certainly but the assertation and boldness of the projection is laughably unlikely. Probability is supremely low

Yes. I was generally agreeing with you.

[texaspackerbacker]

Claiming Love is not likely to be better than all but a handful of current NFL QBs is to say that Love's start to the season is a fluke. Is that what ya'all think - the mealy mouth poster who laughed at such an idea or the dumbass parrot who generally agreed with him?

It seems to me that as good as Love has played, he has just scratched the surface. His "accuracy problem" seems to me to be not in his arm, but in his inexperience on when and how to put air under the ball or lead a receiver just a bit more or less. And that will certainly improve. And he has been nearly Aaron Rodgers-esque in not stupidly throwing into a crowd and getting picks like so many supposedly good QBs nowadays.

I'm at a point where I'm comfortable now not necessarily predicting just yet that the Packers will have hit it big three times in a row, but that I sure wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that way.

[Vincenzo]

He made 3 really boneheaded interceptions lately that makes me think he’s a dumbass just like Favre was at times.
Either way, by Christmas we’ll know if he’s the Great Black Hope - Hall of famer.

[RashanGary]

His probability of being great is a lot higher now that I’ve seen him do a few great things than it was before when it was just the odds of any prospect being great.

Love has a chance. I’d say 20% chance at being a borderline HOF type QB. He does some things that give him a chance. Well there is injury too. Let’s make that 10% chance, haha.

[MadtownPacker]

He made 3 really boneheaded interceptions lately that makes me think he’s a dumbass just like Favre was at times.
Either way, by Christmas we’ll know if he’s the Great Black Hope - Hall of famer.Kinda has some Brett vibe to his game. He has the laser throws and doesnt fear the middle of the field like Eron seemed to. Already more fun to watch than bitch ass 12.

[texaspackerbacker]

Does he have 3 picks? I can only remember 2, and one of those it seemed pretty sure the receiver ran the wrong route. I seem to recall something about the other one that seemed like it wasn't completely his fault also. I think his game is a lot closer to Rodgers than to Favre. He maybe doesn't fear the middle of the field, but he also doesn't fear throwing incompletions - hence the fairly low completion percentage. A lot of those are middle of the field throws but not stupidly throwing it into a crowd.

And he's mobile like Tarkenton (and Rodgers and Favre and Mahomes) - setting up throws - rather than taking off and running like Lamar Jackson and some others.

[Vincenzo]

Kinda has some Brett vibe to his game. He has the laser throws and doesnt fear the middle of the field like Eron seemed to. Already more fun to watch than bitch ass 12.
No shit!
So far we’ve seen him show wisdom beyond his years, but those retarded throws we saw are a concern.
The “Eron,” wise with the ball is what I like seeing. Surely we want the gunslinger Favre at times, but let’s see more laser throws to the below average set of targets the young 24 year old man has.

[RashanGary]

Packers Twitter is handling Jordan Love taking over a lot better than the Bears have with Fields.

Bears Twitter had 30% older guys doubting Fields
And the rest of them defending him in really weirdo ways



Packer Twitter has 30% skinbaskets, insistent he’s horrible
And then nearly the rest of the 70% is waiting and seeing


The Bears have been so QB down, they really haven’t handled things well. We’re a little more open over here to Love flopping or just being average. We’re definitely a more realistic fan base.

[Fritz]

Those two descriptions sound awfully similar to me.

[bobblehead]

How about "too early to say?" And this team has had too many key injuries since 2020 it seems. Love deserves at least a season and then several games with a healthy squad. He's got a really good receiver core for the next few years. Add a couple oline man and give him a couple years.

And Hurts is a stud. He may never be a G.O.A.T but barring injury, I will always look forward to watching him. He's such a chill, soft spoken dude as well: love his character.

Solid post. We can't be sure on Love, but I would like to see him operate behind a good run game and get him and NFL caliber LT. I'm in a minority on moving Jenkins, but he was damn good a couple years ago when he filled in for Bak. He can play the position at a high level and replacing guards is easier than franchise LTs.

As for Hurts I was "juries still out" coming into this year. He has answered most questions and if he suddenly started playing poorly at this point I'd be shocked. Problem is I hate the Eagles so its hard for me to cheer for him.

[bobblehead]

He made 3 really boneheaded interceptions lately that makes me think he’s a dumbass just like Favre was at times.
Either way, by Christmas we’ll know if he’s the Great Black Hope - Hall of famer.

I disagree. He has 2 bonehead picks, and some that weren't a big deal. Tipped pass, obvious PI, and one that was effectively a punt on 3rd down taking a shot. I forgive picks on final drives while behind or final drives of the half with no time left a lot more than I forgive a pick with a 2 score lead that I see Jimmy G and even Josh Allen do all the time.

[red]

i'm becoming concerned

his last 2 weeks have been bad, and his deep pass accuracy has been really bad

big arm with no accuracy at this point. maybe we need to bring in kevin costner and susan sarandon to try and fix him

[Fritz]

i'm becoming concerned

his last 2 weeks have been bad, and his deep pass accuracy has been really bad

big arm with no accuracy at this point. maybe we need to bring in kevin costner and susan sarandon to try and fix him

I think you really only need Susan Sarandon.

[Freak Out]

Well I called for Arod to be traded right away so I'm voting bust.

[Bretsky]

i'm becoming concerned

his last 2 weeks have been bad, and his deep pass accuracy has been really bad

big arm with no accuracy at this point. maybe we need to bring in kevin costner and susan sarandon to try and fix him


I'm standing my my call of the poor man's Dac Prescott

His accuracy is average at best.

His deep ball accuracy was bad when he came into th eleague and now it's just OK

He's a guy you never give big money to IMO

[sharpe1027]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/10/jordan-love-trying-to-find-consistency-on-deep-throws-entering-preseason/

Deep ball accuracy probably isn't going to be a quick fix What's worse is that he throws a high percentage of deep balls

[Bretsky]

I would admit this. Jason Wilde and other Packer beat guys have watched all these QB's for years. It's well recorded how he and others noted how well Erin Rodgers showed some flashes of brillians with his accuracy and the long ball a year or two after he was here as a backup.

LovMachine was often noted to be very week on deep ball accuracy. And Wilde has said many many times he is WAY better than when he arrived in Green Bay.

The problem is, he's still not strong there; possibly below average still

[MadtownPacker]

Much to shithead skinbaskets delight the MNF performance slightly rattled my faith. The last INT the throw was good spot just too late. He pulls the trigger right away and Watson would have just ran up to it in the end zone. But he didn’t so now hope it was just learning curve.

[Joemailman]

Much to shithead skinbaskets delight the MNF performance slightly rattled my faith. The last INT the throw was good spot just too late. He pulls the trigger right away and Watson would have just ran up to it in the end zone. But he didn’t so now hope it was just learning curve.

In Love's defense, he was under pressure because Jenkins missed his block. He had to move to his left to escape the pressure so he could get the throw off.

[sharpe1027]

Until their shit show of an offensive line improves, I'm reserving my final judgement. Let's not forget that even Rodgers and Favre had shit games when they had constant pressure.

I'm not making excuses for Love. he hasn't shown me enough to make me confident he'd be good enough with better blocking, but I haven't given up all hope either.

[Fritz]

I'm standing my my call of the poor man's Dac Prescott

His accuracy is average at best.

His deep ball accuracy was bad when he came into th eleague and now it's just OK

He's a guy you never give big money to IMO

A 'poor man's Dak Prescott" is really an awful QB, because Dak Prescott himself is a really lousy QB. He has been starting for several years now and he still throws numerous stupid interceptions. At least Love has the excuse of this being his first year as a starter.

[Vincenzo]

i'm becoming concerned

his last 2 weeks have been bad, and his deep pass accuracy has been really bad

big arm with no accuracy at this point. maybe we need to bring in kevin costner and susan sarandon to try and fix him

Well...i do remember Josh Allen came into this league with a big arm and no accuracy...look at him now, 73.1% comp rate. Love just needs the game reps and 1st team practice reps to get better.

[red]

Well...i do remember Josh Allen came into this league with a big arm and no accuracy...look at him now, 73.1% comp rate. Love just needs the game reps and 1st team practice reps to get better.

josh alln was a starter from day one

this is loves 4th year in the nfl

he's been working with nfl coaches for 4 years, there shouldn't be growing pains to this extent. thats the whole point of having a guy sit for 3 years

[Vincenzo]

josh alln was a starter from day one

this is loves 4th year in the nfl

he's been working with nfl coaches for 4 years, there shouldn't be growing pains to this extent. thats the whole point of having a guy sit for 3 years
That’s fine but he still needs the NFL game experience. Sitting on the bench watching from the sidelines is a big difference between being on the field playing the game.
5 games is too early to tell just yet. Ya his stock has dropped from week one but let’s not throw in the towel just yet.

[bobblehead]

Well...i do remember Josh Allen came into this league with a big arm and no accuracy...look at him now, 73.1% comp rate. Love just needs the game reps and 1st team practice reps to get better.

Allen went through a very specialized program completely revamping his footwork and some other flaws during that tilting offseason. He was really committed. Hopefully Love is as well. Allens problem will always be that he makes too many really bad decisions.

[bobblehead]

Honestly I think he will follow a Jimmy G, Carr, Goff, etc. path. He will never be great. He will be good enough to start for awhile. He probably will be good enough that another team will give him a shot. If he plays for a modest contract you could win an Owl with him.

[SudsMcBucky]

A 'poor man's Dak Prescott" is really an awful QB, because Dak Prescott himself is a really lousy QB. He has been starting for several years now and he still throws numerous stupid interceptions. At least Love has the excuse of this being his first year as a starter.

Boy, ain't that the truth. LOL. Poor man's Dak!!! Eeeek.

[bobblehead]

Just saw this on a random article from MSN and thought I'd drop it in:

Jordan Love Through Game 9
Week 1, at Chicago (win): 15-of-27 passing, 245 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 123.2 rating.

Week 2, at Atlanta (loss): 14-of-25 passing, 151 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 113.5 rating.

Week 3, New Orleans (win): 22-of-44 passing, 259 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 66.4 rating.

Week 4, Detroit (loss): 23-of-36 passing, 246 yards, one touchdown vs. two interceptions, 69.9 rating.

Week 5, Las Vegas (loss): 16-of-30 passing, 182 yards, zero touchdowns vs. three interceptions, 32.2 rating.

Week 6, bye.

Week 7, Denver (loss): 21-of-31 passing, 180 yards, two touchdowns vs. one interception, 90.8 rating.

Week 8, Minnesota (loss): 24-of-41 passing, 229 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 72.1 rating.

Week 9, L.A. Rams (win): 20-of-26 passing, 228 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 115.5 rating.

Week 10, Pittsburgh (loss): 21-of-40 passing, 289 yards, two touchdowns vs. two interceptions, 71.8 rating.

Total: 176-of-300 passing (58.7 percent), 2,009 yards, 14 touchdowns vs. 10 interceptions, 80.5 rating.

Aaron Rodgers Through Game 9
Week 1, Minnesota (win): 18-of-22 passing, 178 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 115.5 rating.

Week 2, at Detroit (win): 24-of-38 passing, 328 yards, three touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 117.0 rating.

Week 3, Dallas (loss): 22-of-39 passing, 290 yards, zero touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 80.1 rating.

Week 4, Tampa Bay (loss): 14-of-27 passing, 165 yards, two touchdowns vs. three interceptions, 55.9 rating.

Week 5, Atlanta (loss): 25-of-37 passing, 313 yards, three touchdowns vs. one interception, 109.4 rating.

Week 6, Seattle (win): 21-of-30 passing, 208 yards, two touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 111.5 rating.

Week 7, Indianapolis (win): 21-of-28 passing, 186 yards, one touchdown vs. zero interceptions, 104.2 rating.

Week 8: Bye

Week 9, Tennessee (loss): 22-of-41 passing, 314 yards, one touchdown vs. one interception, 76.7 rating.

Week 10, Minnesota (loss): 15-of-26 passing for 142 yards, zero touchdowns vs. zero interceptions, 72.9 rating.

Total: 182-of-288 passing (63.2 percent), 2,124 yards, 13 touchdowns vs. five interceptions, 93.3 rating.

[RashanGary]

Boy, ain't that the truth. LOL. Poor man's Dak!!! Eeeek.

Honesty, Dak might be about what he is if we’re lucky.

[Bretsky]

Honesty, Dak might be about what he is if we’re lucky.

agreee; that might be his best case comp

[texaspackerbacker]

The way Dak is playing this year, having Love play at that level would be great. I see a lot of Dak, and there is some similarity with Love, especially after Dak's injury and his being less apt to take off running. Probably both of them are under-appreciated by many in here hahahaha.

[Fritz]

He's going to be better than Prescott. My mom might be better than Prescott. That dude sucks.

[texaspackerbacker]

Have you seen any of his games this year?

[ThunderDan]

He's going to be better than Prescott. My mom might be better than Prescott. That dude sucks.

My thoughts also. Then I looked at his stats. A lot better than the impression he has left on my mind.

[call_me_ishmael]

agreee; that might be his best case comp

I don't think they're similar players at all though. Maybe similar is ceiling.

[Bretsky]

I don't think they're similar players at all though. Maybe similar is ceiling.

agree; that is what I was indicating. May be Love's high end ceiling

[RashanGary]

Dak looks a little stalkier and thick. Not a great body type comp. But the game they play. They’re similar that way. If he’s as good as Dak, we’re lucky. Odds are against him being even that level.

[bobblehead]

Maholmes is the closest comp to Love in most ways, except for accuracy and ability to read a D. One of those can be improved. Also, that comp is probably the reason Gutes went up and got him. By seasons end we should have a much better read on most of our offensive skill position guys. All the first year guys (Love included) have shown some improvement. All have also made ugly gaffes.

[call_me_ishmael]

Maholmes is the closest comp to Love in most ways, except for accuracy and ability to read a D. One of those can be improved. Also, that comp is probably the reason Gutes went up and got him. By seasons end we should have a much better read on most of our offensive skill position guys. All the first year guys (Love included) have shown some improvement. All have also made ugly gaffes.

I think Blake Bortles is a much better comp. Huge arm, athletic, prone to throwing off-balance and not at all accurate. NFL.com had it right

[bobblehead]

I think Blake Bortles is a much better comp. Huge arm, athletic, prone to throwing off-balance and not at all accurate. NFL.com had it right

If not for the cheaters Bortles would possibly have a ring. I also was always much higher on Bortles than others. Our resident genius, Nate Hacket broke him (just like he is finishing off Zack Wilson instead of improving him).

[MadtownPacker]

Maholmes is the closest comp to Love in most ways, except for accuracy and ability to read a D. One of those can be improved. Also, that comp is probably the reason Gutes went up and got him. By seasons end we should have a much better read on most of our offensive skill position guys. All the first year guys (Love included) have shown some improvement. All have also made ugly gaffes.
I had been avoiding saying it but 100% agree. He plays a similar funky, awkward style that makes it hard for defenses to calibrate on him.

[bobblehead]

First 300 yard game for Love today. I'm not enshrining him in Canton yet, but it was nice to see. Also (looking it up) hit 10 different pass catchers!! Wow.

[Bretsky]

Love played great today

[Fritz]

Look at Bretsky, coming around!

[Upnorth]

Against a very bad pass d love played well. That's good to see.

[QBME]

Another test on Thursday.
Kinda like mid terms junior year in high school

[call_me_ishmael]

I think Packers lose 31-27 on Turkey Day in one heck of a fun game.

[Upnorth]

He looks like an okay starter.
I still say extend now with a heavily incentive based contract

[Sparkey]

Love looks really composed under pressure and he is placing passes better. I'd place him at this time as:

FLOOR : A good qb that can win some games

TRAJECTORY: occasional pro bowler

CEILING: All Pro / HOFer

Me liking!!

[texaspackerbacker]

Things are looking up - of course for Love, but also for the attitude of posters in here hahahaha.

[RashanGary]

Love looks really composed under pressure and he is placing passes better. I'd place him at this time as:

FLOOR : A good qb that can win some games

TRAJECTORY: occasional pro bowler

CEILING: All Pro / HOFer

Me liking!!

I agree.

[Joemailman]

Looks like the majority got it right here. He's been slightly better than Mahomes, but this is not vintage Mahomes. I thought Love would be pretty solid. But I have to say he's made more WOW throws than I expected. It wasn't until sometime in Rodgers'2nd year as a starter that I knew he was a lot better than pretty good. Still too early to tell what Love's ceiling is.

[Fritz]

Looks like the majority got it right here. He's been slightly better than Mahomes, but this is not vintage Mahomes. I thought Love would be pretty solid. But I have to say he's made more WOW throws than I expected. It wasn't until sometime in Rodgers'2nd year as a starter that I knew he was a lot better than pretty good. Still too early to tell what Love's ceiling is.

Most people’s ceilings are a flat white.

Ba-Dum-BAH!

[call_me_ishmael]

The thing that I don't get most of all is how these jags are so open for JLove but seemingly never were for Rod. What's up with that? Different offense? They were always open and ARod ain't throwing? It seems that the truth is a young QB is dangerous because they will attempt throws that an old one won't attempt.

[Bretsky]

The thing that I don't get most of all is how these jags are so open for JLove but seemingly never were for Rod. What's up with that? Different offense? They were always open and ARod ain't throwing? It seems that the truth is a young QB is dangerous because they will attempt throws that an old one won't attempt.



SO MANY said AROD won't throw to a guy til he trusts him. I always found that rather pathetic. Just throw to the guy who's open dammit. His zeroing in on Adams lost us games at times.

But on the other hand, our WR's are WAY BETTER NOW than what Adams had backing him up. But part of that is RODGERS fault for f'cking up our WR room up with this buddies who lacked talent

Thank the Jets want the Lizard or Cobb ? Those two guys, talent wise, would not crack our top 6 WR's and...on of them started for us last year

[red]

The thing that I don't get most of all is how these jags are so open for JLove but seemingly never were for Rod. What's up with that? Different offense? They were always open and ARod ain't throwing? It seems that the truth is a young QB is dangerous because they will attempt throws that an old one won't attempt.

go watch the replays, a rod usually had guys open on every play

he just wasn't looking at them

[RashanGary]

Really glad Love made it to 30 in 16. Gonna be fun rubbing it in Bears fans faces on Twitter since they’ve never seen 30 in 120 years. And the shit they talked all offseason.

[RashanGary]

Jordan love shouldn’t be swishing that champagne on his teeth. He gonna be toothless when we trade him to the Jets and that might lower is trade value.

[Teamcheez1]

Where is Skinbasket?

[RashanGary]

Where is Skinbasket?

He has a family to provide for. Unless Love has a bad game. Then he has nothing better to do than immediately come here and spend 3 days repeating the same nonsense.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's hard to tell so early. He sure seems like he has a lot of the characteristics you want in a QB. The thing that jumps out to me is he seems unafraid to let it fly to JAGs. It makes me think of how many big games were left on the table when ARod was throwing to JAGs but wouldn't let it fly.

I think Love will be limited by his accuracy. I'm still not convinced he's a top 10 QB yet. Newness goes a long way. Next year could look totally different. I would dangle the carrot to him contract wise. "Jordan, we love you, you're great, but we just need to see more. You're under contract next year and we will absolutely use the franchise tag if we can't come to an agreement. Let's do 8 weeks before and if you continue to perform the way we think you're capable of, we will give you the largest contract for a qb".

[RashanGary]

I was hoping for a TD hat trick for him. Get to 31. Tied for second with Purdy. Start to lurk in that borderline MVP zone. If the Packers had a defense, we’d have 11 wins and he would be in the hunt for that MVP.

[Joemailman]

It's hard to tell so early. He sure seems like he has a lot of the characteristics you want in a QB. The thing that jumps out to me is he seems unafraid to let it fly to JAGs. It makes me think of how many big games were left on the table when ARod was throwing to JAGs but wouldn't let it fly.

I think Love will be limited by his accuracy. I'm still not convinced he's a top 10 QB yet. Newness goes a long way. Next year could look totally different. I would dangle the carrot to him contract wise. "Jordan, we love you, you're great, but we just need to see more. You're under contract next year and we will absolutely use the franchise tag if we can't come to an agreement. Let's do 8 weeks before and if you continue to perform the way we think you're capable of, we will give you the largest contract for a qb".

I think his accuracy is already improved from what it was earlier in the year. He's gone from the bottom to 21st in the NFL. His completion pct. has gone from 58.7 in the first 9 games to 68.4 in the last 7. Also Love is 3rd in the NFL in average depth of target, whether completed or not. So he's likely not going to have the completion pct. of guys who throw more short stuff.

[Joemailman]

Barry
@BarryOnHere

30 TD seasons without Randy Moss or Rob Gronkowski:

Jordan Love: 1
Tom Brady: 0

[MadtownPacker]

I think his accuracy is already improved from what it was earlier in the year. He's gone from the bottom to 21st in the NFL. His completion pct. has gone from 58.7 in the first 9 games to 68.4 in the last 7. Also Love is 3rd in the NFL in average depth of target, whether completed or not. So he's likely not going to have the completion pct. of guys who throw more short stuff.
Posers like tell_me_iSmell just read stat lines and act like they paid attention to the game. Love’s accuracy is more than good and will only improve. Just based on his face and body language he was thinking way too damn much. Now his eyes are determined and he is letting the cannon loose.

Basically homeboy was playing nervous and now he’s feeling cool.8-)

[George Cumby]

Posers like tell_me_iSmell just read stat lines and act like they paid attention to the game. Love’s accuracy is more than good and will only improve. Just based on his face and body language he was thinking way too damn much. Now his eyes are determined and he is letting the cannon loose.

Basically homeboy was playing nervous and now he’s feeling cool.8-)

Exactly, the early season accuracy issues, IMO, were him playing tight, literally. Now he's got more experience which has boosted his confidence so he's playing loose and letting it rip.

The kid's demeanor is awesome. His game face speaks volumes.

Rest of the NFCN is in trouble because he's only going to get better.

[call_me_ishmael]

Posers like tell_me_iSmell just read stat lines and act like they paid attention to the game. Love’s accuracy is more than good and will only improve. Just based on his face and body language he was thinking way too damn much. Now his eyes are determined and he is letting the cannon loose.

Basically homeboy was playing nervous and now he’s feeling cool.8-)

He's playing good but his deep ball still stinks. Anything with air under it feels like a problem with JLove. I am not sold on his deep ball accuracy yet. We shall see. He looks the part right now, I agree.

[Joemailman]

[QUOTE]
PFF GB Packers
@PFF_Packers

Jordan Love: highest-graded QB in the NFL since week 12 (90.4)

[Joemailman]

PFF GB Packers
@PFF_Packers

Jordan Love: highest-graded QB in the NFL since week 12 (90.4)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC3f0SRWkAEqvtG?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Fritz]

He's playing good but his deep ball still stinks. Anything with air under it feels like a problem with JLove. I am not sold on his deep ball accuracy yet. We shall see. He looks the part right now, I agree.

I gotta agree with you here. Remember, there’s not much difference between “deep balls” and “balls deep.”

[Joemailman]

Rodgers wasn't great on deep balls early in his career either. Remember the miss to Jennings in overtime against Arizona in 2009 playoffs? Deep balls are great when they happen, but being able to throw a bullet accurately down the seam, and being able to throw a great deep out are more important.

[call_me_ishmael]

The other thing that seems kinda weird is it doesn't seem like JLove ever throws a laser. The ball goes far, but it doesn't seem to be going particularly fast. What newfangled physics is he applying to this situation to achieve this?

[texaspackerbacker]

The kid is erring on the side of not throwing interceptions, and that is absolutely a good thing. He occasionally does hum it in there like a laser too, just not all the time since it isn't always necessary to throw like that.

[Joemailman]

Jacob Morley
@JacobMorley
Jordan Love is the only QB in the league to throw for

1,800+ YDS
16+ TDs
1 or fewer INTs
And a completion % of 68.0+ over a seven-game span this season

The last QB to put up these numbers in the NFL was Aaron Rodgers in 2021.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, that's incredible

[MadtownPacker]

Wow, that's incredible
Almost as much as you are lame for saying his accuracy sucked.

[BrokenArrow]

go watch the replays, a rod usually had guys open on every play

he just wasn't looking at them

TRUTH