Official 2023 Week 1 Packers at Bears (Love v Fields 1.0) Game DISCUSSION Thread!

[RashanGary]

Justin Fields is a proven rushing QB with a lot of uncertainty as a passer. As long as he’s healthy and has his athleticism he’s a good player. There’s still a chance he becomes great but an equally strong chance he flames out early as his athleticism leaves him.

The Bears OL is still very suspect and has a lot to prove in 2023.

DJ Moore and Mooney make a strong 1/2 at receiver. They have decent tight ends.

At running back, Fields and company make for a formidable rushing attack.



On defense the Bears have some young up and comers in the secondary, some big additions at linebacker and a couple new faces up front. They were all time aweful last year and look to be bad again. Probably better, but a bad defense none the less.




This is a great game for Love to start his career as QB1. There should be plenty of time for him to make good decisions and show what he’s got. We’ll see how the young guys and Gary improve up front.


Packers 27 - Bears 23

[Fritz]

Justin Fields is a proven rushing QB with a lot of uncertainty as a passer. As long as he’s healthy and has his athleticism he’s a good player. There’s still a chance he becomes great but an equally strong chance he flames out early as his athleticism leaves him.

The Bears OL is still very suspect and has a lot to prove in 2023.

DJ Moore and Mooney make a strong 1/2 at receiver. They have decent tight ends.

At running back, Fields and company make for a formidable rushing attack.



On defense the Bears have some young up and comers in the secondary, some big additions at linebacker and a couple new faces up front. They were all time aweful last year and look to be bad again. Probably better, but a bad defense none the less.




This is a great game for Love to start his career as QB1. There should be plenty of time for him to make good decisions and show what he’s got. We’ll see how the young guys and Gary improve up front.


Packers 27 - Bears 23

I think starting his first game as face-of-franchise on the road will actually take some pressure off.

[smuggler]

Gotta hit Fields just a few times to make him want to run. He might gash us, but it'll keep him from feeling comfortable enough to get the passing game off the ground. We win that way.

[run pMc]

I think if you play fantasy football you drink the Justin Fields KoolAid. I think if you don't he has a lot to prove if he's going to be even an average QB. They've decided to put some pieces around him, DJ Moore is a nice get and they've tried to improve the OL but they are banged up (no Teven Jenkins) and have some weak links. On defense, they decided to spend a chunk of their cap space on two ILBs which is the most Bears thing ever, after trading Roquan away. That said, Edwards and Edmunds will improve the middle of the defense and will defend the middle of the field well with their size and instincts. Their DL is either rookies or JAGs, and their secondary is coming along but still has some holes. I like Jaquan Brisker and Jaylon Johson, not sold on the rest. This was the worst team in football last year, and while they should be better I don't think they are contenders.

GB will have to prove they can stop the run - CHI is going to run the ball at them - and not let receivers run free like they did last year in Week 1. I think Jordan Love will be fine - he's shown poise and good decision making in the pocket (if not good accuracy) and he has a lot of young receivers who could be playmakers. He also has a good OL and solid running game to help him. I think Luke Musgrave will find tough sledding overall but he'll stress those CHI ILBs and safeties. Jayden Reed might actually do better, assuming he doesn't drop the ball. (Rookie yips and all)

I think overall GB is the better team, but it's on the road for Week 1 and that's a recipe for wild variation from the norm. Playing a lot of starters this preseason (along with slow starts in previous seasons) will have the team ready to play full speed. I think it will be close but I could see a 4 point win. Few things would be sweeter than breaking CHI fans hearts with a good performance by Jordan Love. Few things would be worse than having to listen to CHI fans crow if they win. Many of them think GB is roadkill without Rodgers.

[Fritz]

The fucking Green Bay run defense. That is the key. I don’t have much faith in Joe Barely.

[MadScientist]

I think if you play fantasy football you drink the Justin Fields KoolAid. I think if you don't he has a lot to prove if he's going to be even an average QB.
That explains the Fields hype. I've never played FF so he just looks like a meh QB who can run to me. Maybe this will be a breakout year for him, but I won't believe it until I see it.

[Fritz]

Stay in your lanes! Don't freelance! Keep that fucker bottled up!

That god Z isn't here any more.

[Joemailman]

The official Unofficial Depth Chart to open the season.

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[Fritz]

So Toure is listed as the #2 slot receiver? He seems to have slid a bit since the "wow he looks great coming into camp" talk.

I am also hoping the Packers play Gary very sparingly, then come to an agreement on an extension soon. Soon.

[Upnorth]

I can't remember the last time I was this excited to see the team. Who knows what we are going to be.
Can love be good? Or great?
Is this the year that the hype our d gets preseason shows up in season?
Special teams fixed for the 1st time in close to 2 decades???

Bears still suck. We are going to kick there ass!

[Joemailman]

So Toure is listed as the #2 slot receiver? He seems to have slid a bit since the "wow he looks great coming into camp" talk.

I am also hoping the Packers play Gary very sparingly, then come to an agreement on an extension soon. Soon.

I don't know that Toure has slid so much as he has been passed by others. Heath, and Wicks when healthy, have been very impressive. Still, if Doubs is out Sunday, I think we'll see Toure some.

MLF has said Gary will be on a pitch count early. Not sure sparingly though.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I can't remember the last time I was this excited to see the team. Who knows what we are going to be.
Can love be good? Or great?
Is this the year that the hype our d gets preseason shows up in season?
Special teams fixed for the 1st time in close to 2 decades???

Bears still suck. We are going to kick there ass!

Let’s rock then. Tomorrow (Thursday) my paycheck is gonna look something like this:

Hourly pay rate: $15
Hours worked: 40
Gross income for pay period: $600
Federal income tax: $51
Wisconsin income tax: $23
Social security tax: $40
Medicare tax: $20
Medical insurance: $33
Net income: $433

Your confidence regarding a Packer victory is inspiring. I am gonna put the entire paycheck on the Packers, moneyline, at +100.

[Joemailman]

Most of the country will get Packers/Bears. Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen with the call. Much of the West, including Alaska and Hawaii, will get Rams at Seattle. Kevin Kugler and Mark Sanchez with the call.

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[Anti-Polar Bear]

Most of the country will get Packers/Bears. Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen with the call. Much of the West, including Alaska and Hawaii, will get Rams at Seattle. Kevin Kugler and Mark Sanchez with the call.

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When the schedule was released in April, game was initially scheduled for noon. Much to my dismay, game has been flexed to late afternoon.

Y’all give zero fucks, but my day offs from the burger joint are now Thursday, Friday and Saturday instead of Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. I woulda liked to take a 4 hours nap after game before heading to burger joint.

[run pMc]

Bears trade R6 pick to MIA for OG Dan Feeney. Pretty good trade for both sides.

Jaquan Brisker adding bulletin board material to the preexisting stuff from Justin Jones. Seems that Bears fans aren't the only ones being chirpy.

[Sparkey]

Let’s rock then. Tomorrow (Thursday) my paycheck is gonna look something like this:

Hourly pay rate: $15
Hours worked: 40
Gross income for pay period: $600
Federal income tax: $51
Wisconsin income tax: $23
Social security tax: $40
Medicare tax: $20
Medical insurance: $33
Net income: $433

Your confidence regarding a Packer victory is inspiring. I am gonna put the entire paycheck on the Packers, moneyline, at +100.

What is that saying;? Oh yeah, "A fool and his money are soon parted."

NFL week 1 is the week of WTF type games where good teams look like shit and bad teams appear to be playoff bound...

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

Among those #Packers not practicing today: WR Christian Watson (unknown), David Bakhtiari, Romeo Doubs (hamstring).

First injury report will be released later today.

[Upnorth]

Let’s rock then. Tomorrow (Thursday) my paycheck is gonna look something like this:

Hourly pay rate: $15
Hours worked: 40
Gross income for pay period: $600
Federal income tax: $51
Wisconsin income tax: $23
Social security tax: $40
Medicare tax: $20
Medical insurance: $33
Net income: $433

Your confidence regarding a Packer victory is inspiring. I am gonna put the entire paycheck on the Packers, moneyline, at +100.

Fuck now we are gonna lose for sure!!! You gonna have to start flipping burgers overtime

[Joemailman]

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[QBME]

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:)

[Oscar]

The D knows there gonna have to hold up. They will come out firing on all cylinders.

[Fritz]

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The curse of the hammys is back! Aaargh!

[pittstang5]

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Great, so our # 1 and # 2 WRs are going to be out! Great start to the season!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The curse of the hammys is back! Aaargh!

Or Doubs and Watson, especially Watson, are just milksops who suffer from the Claymaker metrosexual disorder. Recall how the Claymaker used to skip games whenever his hair ain’t pretty? Watson is a lot like that.

Someone needs to check if the injury-prone Watson has balls cos he sure as fuck ain’t Bert Favor tough.

[run pMc]

I like our chances a lot better if we have Watson and Doubs (and Wicks) healthy enough to play.
Toure, Heath and Reed aren't going to strike fear into that defense, and I'm fairly confident Eberflus is going to make Jordan Love beat them by trying to stop the run and pressure the QB.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

What is that saying;? Oh yeah, "A fool and his money are soon parted."

NFL week 1 is the week of WTF type games where good teams look like shit and bad teams appear to be playoff bound...

Which is the Packers, good or bad?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Fuck now we are gonna lose for sure!!! You gonna have to start flipping burgers overtime

Whatever happened to the Packers are gonna kick asses? Getting worried. Guess it will be wiser to wait til Sunday morning to place the bet.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Seriously, who the fuck pulls a hammy in a bye week? These jocks have access to top notch training facilities, for fuck’s sake!

Might as well just accept that Watson is a house of cards - one blow from cavin’ in, to paraphrase Katy Perry.

[Joemailman]

Doubs returned to practice today.


“He looked good,” coach Matt LaFleur said after practice. “He took a couple reps in each team period and all the routes on air. He looked good. We’re not going to put him in a position to miss a longer period of time. If he’s feeling good, he’ll be out there.”

Doubs’ tag-team partner, fellow receiver Christian Watson, was not seen in the Don Hutson Center or the practice field during the early parts of practice.

[Joemailman]

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[jklowan]

Packers coach gives brutal assessment of Yosh Nijman's roleStenavich spoke to reporters on Thursday, and he gave an honest answer to a question about Nijman's role this season.
"Right now, he's a backup tackle for us. That's where he's at, and football is a very competitive sport, and some guys rise to that competition and some guys don't, so that's basically all I have to say about that," said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4LhZXdcuo) Stenavich.
That's not exactly what you want to hear from a coach, and it's a surprising answer. Stenavich easily could've talked about the Packers' great depth at tackle and praised Nijman. The fact he didn't is notable.

[Fritz]

That’s a big “ouch” right there. The “football is a competitive sport” thing leads me to think ol’Yoshie thought he had a starting role locked up and so went into cruise control this offseason. Doh!

[RashanGary]

Probably has his nose in some 25 year old hottie and thought a summer of romance was more important than football. I’m sure she’s gonna be right by his side when he’s selling cars at the ford dealership.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

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Shaking my fucking head at the Christine Watson update (no, it ain’t a typo: Christine). Some of us have hard-earned frogskins on the line, man!

Christine Watson is softer than an impotent peacock in the middle of Antarctica. More injury-prone than an overworked, 15 bucks an hour, 40 year old burger flipper.

Trade this fucking milksop for Jonathon Taylor already! :x

[Teamcheez1]

The Watson and Doubs injuries are concerning, but I have less faith over an entire season on a left tackle who can barely practice.

[smuggler]

Doubs practiced yesterday. That's a pretty good sign. Watson probably needs a different strength and flexibility regiment.

[bobblehead]

Packers coach gives brutal assessment of Yosh Nijman's roleStenavich spoke to reporters on Thursday, and he gave an honest answer to a question about Nijman's role this season.
"Right now, he's a backup tackle for us. That's where he's at, and football is a very competitive sport, and some guys rise to that competition and some guys don't, so that's basically all I have to say about that," said (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl4LhZXdcuo) Stenavich.
That's not exactly what you want to hear from a coach, and it's a surprising answer. Stenavich easily could've talked about the Packers' great depth at tackle and praised Nijman. The fact he didn't is notable.

Yosh isn't a nasty dude. The packers staff has hated that all along. They just can't accept his carefree attitude even though he has pretty much held up on gameday. 2x they replaced him and lost playoff games because of it. He needs to move on. He probably won't ever be great, but he should be playing right now at RT with Tom at C. But hey, they would rather have the better personality botching snaps I guess.

I just don't get it. I understand his talent is otherworldly and he just isn't motivated enough to maximize it, but Yosh at 80% is NFL starter. Sometimes you have to accept who a guy is and win games.

[Joemailman]

Watson out. Doubs questionable.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5hnucWWgAAyWP3?format=jpg&name=large

[bobblehead]

Watson out. Doubs questionable.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F5hnucWWgAAyWP3?format=jpg&name=large

Well, that's and awkward start.

[Vincenzo]

The D knows there gonna have to hold up. They will come out firing on all cylinders.

We can only hope, go Pack!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Well, that's and awkward start.

Little known fact about Christine Watson: Before she landed at North Dakota State, Watson was cut by the Wisconsin - Stevens Point D3 football program. Apparently, UWSP’s head football coach, Dick Bennett Jr., cut Watson for having a vag.

Whatever over/under Vegas has for the number of games Watson will play this year, sign me up for the under.

[Vincenzo]

Little known fact about Christine Watson: Before she landed at North Dakota State, Watson was cut by the Wisconsin - Stevens Point D3 football program. Apparently, UWSP’s head football coach, Dick Bennett Jr., cut Watson for having a vag.

Whatever over/under Vegas has for the number of games Watson will play this year, sign me up for the under.
Christina Glass Watson is under what Vegas picks.

[Joemailman]

Aaron Wilson
@AaronWilson_NFL

#Packers elevate Innis Gaines, Patrick Taylor

Packers not elevating a WR from practice squad so they must be very confident Doubs will play.

[smuggler]

Four backs against the Bears gives you a clue into their plans.

[RashanGary]

Yosh isn't a nasty dude. The packers staff has hated that all along. They just can't accept his carefree attitude even though he has pretty much held up on gameday. 2x they replaced him and lost playoff games because of it. He needs to move on. He probably won't ever be great, but he should be playing right now at RT with Tom at C. But hey, they would rather have the better personality botching snaps I guess.

I just don't get it. I understand his talent is otherworldly and he just isn't motivated enough to maximize it, but Yosh at 80% is NFL starter. Sometimes you have to accept who a guy is and win games.

Maybe. But maybe not.

[RashanGary]

Little known fact about Christine Watson: Before she landed at North Dakota State, Watson was cut by the Wisconsin - Stevens Point D3 football program. Apparently, UWSP’s head football coach, Dick Bennett Jr., cut Watson for having a vag.

Whatever over/under Vegas has for the number of games Watson will play this year, sign me up for the under.

Misoganistic pig ;)

[MadScientist]

Four backs against the Bears gives you a clue into their plans.

Wilson might not be active, and Taylor is up for special teams.

[Fosco33]

Things to watch for today:

Love and his poise, command of the offense and ability to extend drives

WR - Doubs is not a deep threat - will one of the rooks step up?

DL - we’ve been terrible at run defense under lafleur and face a mostly ground attack today

ST - a whole new group of specialists - could win or lose it for us.

I don’t know enough about this team to make a prediction. But road division games are always hard. And our last two opening games were duds.

[wthigoot]

Going with my previous prediction, win, 20-17. Carlson either makes 2 FG or misses an XP.

Defense will have to hold up and get the final stop for the win.

Lambs vs. Seachickens out here on the left coast, so I will just catch the highlights.

[RashanGary]

WR - Doubs is not a deep threat - will one of the rooks step up?

DL - we’ve been terrible at run defense under lafleur and face a mostly ground attack today.

I didn’t get that memo

[bobblehead]

Maybe. But maybe not.

How do we feel about this after that turd Myers gave birth to yesterday?

[run pMc]

Myers was better in pass pro than in the run game. I don't think the fumbled snap was on him, I think that was on Love. Andrew Billings gave him some trouble. Overall I'd say Myers was a mixed bag, you could do worse. They'll look to get him better competition next offseason. If he doesn't improve maybe they put Tom at C, but I think they'll keep Myers in the game. He's a R2 pick and you gotta play him until you can't.

[RashanGary]

Tom looks like a bonafide tackle. Honestly, so does Rasheed Walker. Walker makes it look easy. We have our two tackles of the future. You can’t waste either of them at center or guard.

Meyers is a decent pass protector and a bad run blocker. He’s serviceable for now. But you look to replace him through the draft ASAP

[RashanGary]

Bears Twitter is a really fun place the last three days. They really thought fields was it. And they’re still not admitting reality, but they’re starting to consider that maybe he’s not. They’re not in a good place. Check in on your Bears fan friends.

[Fritz]

How do we feel about this after that turd Myers gave birth to yesterday?

I think Tex is petting it lovingly.

[RashanGary]

I think Tex is petting it lovingly.

:lol:

Tex, you crazy old shyster, you were onto Aaron Jones and Big Bob Tonyan being better than the roster fodder we all assumed on days 1 of each of their careers, so sometimes your kookery is more like being a profit, but damn, the other 90% of the time it’s just flat out wild. You wildin’ bruh!

[RashanGary]

JT O’Sullivan has a qb school YouTube channel. He broke down Justin fields. He had all sorts of options down the field that O’Sullivan insists have to be thrown and fields keeps taking checkdowns.

Man, we’re lucky that our guy seems to get it. If this works out, we’ve got to be the luckiest fan base ever to get three in a row.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yet the huge majority of the Packers run success the past couple of years has been through the Guard/Center hole. It wasn't like that before Myers came along, not even with Linsley who got almost as much praise as the Sacred Cow. There's a group of dumbasses in here who seem to be be in denial of that. RG, ya'all should open your eyes - and maybe believe what you see.

[RashanGary]

Yet the huge majority of the Packers run success the past couple of years has been through the Guard/Center hole. It wasn't like that before Myers came along, not even with Linsley who got almost as much praise as the Sacred Cow. There's a group of dumbasses in here who seem to be be in denial of that. RG, ya'all should open your eyes - and maybe believe what you see.

I saw a breakdown of the Packers offense by a football guy on Twitter (don’t remember who) but he said Lafleur on week 1 had the most diversity in run plays in the league. Said he ran everything. Maybe they decided with all 2nd year players or better that they would make the run game more complex rather than making the pass game complex. In that case, Meyer isn’t doing the same runs over and over that he’s used to and has to make different kinds of blocks that he’s not used to?

[Fritz]

I saw a breakdown of the Packers offense by a football guy on Twitter (don’t remember who) but he said Lafleur on week 1 had the most diversity in run plays in the league. Said he ran everything. Maybe they decided with all 2nd year players or better that they would make the run game more complex rather than making the pass game complex. In that case, Meyer isn’t doing the same runs over and over that he’s used to and has to make different kinds of blocks that he’s not used to?

Or maybe he had hemorrhoids.
Or maybe he'd gotten into a fight with his girlfriend and was distracted.
Or maybe it's his rookie year and he's still on a steep learning curve.

Or maybe he's just not playing well. Period.

[Sparkey]

Next year move Tom to center and draft OT Joe Alt from Notre Dame.

[texaspackerbacker]

I saw a breakdown of the Packers offense by a football guy on Twitter (don’t remember who) but he said Lafleur on week 1 had the most diversity in run plays in the league. Said he ran everything. Maybe they decided with all 2nd year players or better that they would make the run game more complex rather than making the pass game complex. In that case, Meyer isn’t doing the same runs over and over that he’s used to and has to make different kinds of blocks that he’s not used to?

That's believable. In the past, I have disparaged a run first offense, and I really don't want the Packers to sell out completely that way even now. But that number and variety of run plays maybe was part of what made Love so effective. I said before the roster cut down I was hoping for a rotation of runners. As great as Aaron Jones is, he's probably not sturdy enough to carry too big a load. and A.J. Dillon just seems to fall down too easy as well as not being very shifty. Even if Jones can play, I'm hoping to see a lot of Patrick Taylor and Emanuel Wilson against the Falcons and going forward.

I'm thinking LaFleur was trying out a lot of things against the Bears, trying to see what in the playbook worked the best. Ultimately, I think he makes both the run game and passing game complex. That seems to be his thing.

Regarding Myers, you're probably right about different blocking schemes - him and the rest of them. Some of what the detractors perceived as weakness or not much push forward may have been pulling, as I saw him do several times. Whatever the "ya'all" crowd may think of Myers, I (and I think the Packers staff) aren't gonna move Tom to Center because he's doing too good a job at Tackle.

As I have said, continuity of personnel is a key to good O Line play.

[sharpe1027]

Yet the huge majority of the Packers run success the past couple of years has been through the Guard/Center hole. It wasn't like that before Myers came along, not even with Linsley who got almost as much praise as the Sacred Cow. There's a group of dumbasses in here who seem to be be in denial of that. RG, ya'all should open your eyes - and maybe believe what you see.

Any stats to backup the difference in success running behind center before and after Meyers? Otherwise I'm inclined to give your unsupported argument no credibility.

[texaspackerbacker]

Observability. The burden of proof for stat gathering is with ya'all who like to try and go against what is plainly observable.

[sharpe1027]

Observability. The burden of proof for stat gathering is with ya'all who like to try and go against what is plainly observable.

I observed the opposite. Burden is now on you.

[sharpe1027]

What we have is a clear cut a case of arm chair QBs arguing about what they personally observe in Myers play.

Sarcasm font on:"If only there were neutral parties that watched ever play and graded how Meyers did, we could settle this." Sarcasm font off.

[run pMc]

Linsley > Myers. The Pro Bowl and especially the All Pro nods should settle that argument, unless you need to look at PFF grades or someone like Andy Herman's grading.
They have been pretty good at inside zone for a while, predating Myers. On Sunday Andrew Billings gave Myers some problems and his run blocking wasn't up to snuff. His pass blocking was fine though. He's not a liability but GB can and will look to get better there in the offseason.
I know they picked up the ex-Bangal Jordan who was also a C/G at OSU, but I think he's a G depth piece and signals they are good with Tom at RT.

Two unrelated random observations:
(1) MLF schemed up some nice things in the plan for this game. The Packers O used a TON of pre snap motion, you never saw that much with Rodgers (who famously hated it). It caused CHI some trouble, for example on the first Doubs TD. They also used a LOT of different formations, which also stresses a defense.
(2) With some reluctance, I have to give Barry and defensive coaches some credit for scheming up something approaching aggressive creativity. They ran an absurd number of DL stunts and twists. Combined the overall athleticism of the DL it gave the Bears OL fits. Braxton Jones was a Day 3 steal for them at LT and he looked bad. Cody Whitehair, Nate Davis... they aren't terrible players but they looked overmatched. Devante Wyatt was credited for as many pressures (SIX) as the entire Bears defense.

I don't know if this will continue; I expect by Week 5-6 teams will have countered some of these items and it will be up to the GB coaches to make their adjustments.

[bobblehead]

What we have is a clear cut a case of arm chair QBs arguing about what they personally observe in Myers play.

Sarcasm font on:"If only there were neutral parties that watched ever play and graded how Meyers did, we could settle this." Sarcasm font off.

I'm neutral I think. I supported the pick and pointed out why he was a fit for us. I've said he was pretty solid as a rookie and last year I thought he was "meh" but coming off an injury. I have even supported him being the starter most of training camp. After the last 2 preseason games and this game, I have changed my mind based on what my lying eyes tell me.....he fucking sucks.

[texaspackerbacker]

I observed the opposite. Burden is now on you.

Then you're blind or stupid hahahaha.

[sharpe1027]

Then you're blind or stupid hahahaha.

If you see opposite me, you're blind AND stupid. Prove me wrong.

[Fritz]

Per run's post, I've been wondering if secretly MLF is having fun this year, being able to dial up his own stuff and take control of the offense. I'm sure he loved ARod as his QB and all, but still, it's gotta be fun to feel like he's got the freedom to really run this offense his way.

Now will he love it so much when the Packers' offense plays like shit and can't put up points? We'll see. But for now, it's more the offense that I think we all expected when he came here, and that he ran more in the first year, until Rodgers kinda deep-sixed a bunch of stuff, or so it seemed to me. Lots less motion and all that.

[RashanGary]

Per run's post, I've been wondering if secretly MLF is having fun this year, being able to dial up his own stuff and take control of the offense. I'm sure he loved ARod as his QB and all, but still, it's gotta be fun to feel like he's got the freedom to really run this offense his way.

Now will he love it so much when the Packers' offense plays like shit and can't put up points? We'll see. But for now, it's more the offense that I think we all expected when he came here, and that he ran more in the first year, until Rodgers kinda deep-sixed a bunch of stuff, or so it seemed to me. Lots less motion and all that.

Definitely. And to be honest, in a lot of ways it looked smoother than games with 12. I think Rodgers made it harder than it had to be in a lot of ways.

Mildly concerned to see him throw behind guys a couple times. Seemed to be consistently a little behind. I imagine he practiced all training camp and had a feel for the speed with the guys having training camp legs. I would imagine the load they put on them leading up to real games is kind of optimized for them to be 100% for Sundays. Maybe his guys were a little peppier than he was used to.