Official Lions at Packers TNF game night thread

[MadtownPacker]

That’s it, it’s over, it’s done. That’s how halftime then most of the third quarter and beginning of the fourth want last Sunday. After the rest of the fourth quarter happened four days ago doesn’t really seem to matter. Because then the crying turned to well obviously it’s going to be a loss on Thursday night on a short week against a better team. I guess those folks could be right but they’re probably the same ones that were crying in the game thread. :lol:
There’s nothing to be mad or sad about. Really we should all be grateful they’re not 0- three. It’s been a fun ride so far without expectations and I don’t think it ends tonight if we see some extra stuff from Love. He used his legs at the right times last Sunday without exposing himself to devastating hits. Played smart so maybe it can and does get better from here.

Lions 22 - Packers 24

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[Fosco33]

Lions have had our number in last 10 years.

This years Pack is good - but inconsistent. Ie, young

So I have no idea on the game - too close to call.

Hope we get healthy, lucky and play 4qs

[red]

Serious question. Is Marshall lunch full on retarded or just half?

[Rastak]

Half, but he may have progressed. I have the sound off.

[jklowan]

Lets go!!!

[beveaux1]

Int. Ford!!

[beveaux1]

With the lead. 3-0

[SkinBasket]

Cough.

[King Friday]

Fart

[SkinBasket]

Fart

Probably more accurate.

[Sparkey]

Lions spot GB a FG.

[Fritz]

Cough.

You at the doctor's office, Skin? A medical man holding your testicles?

Well, a solid start, though empty backfields seem crazy - I was waiting for a screen to Jones.

[beveaux1]

Our D is in mid game form.

[Rastak]

That was quick.

[Teamcheez1]

Didn’t take long to figure the Packers defense out.

[SkinBasket]

That was awfully white of us.

[Fritz]

Not only did Rasul slipped, he slipped because he guessed wrong. he thought it was going to be a short pass, and he bit, so St. Brown blew by him.

That good start didn't last long.

[red]

Terrible series by douglas

[Fritz]

They stopped the run!

[beveaux1]

Let's calm down on offense. Run the ball to set up play action.

[Fritz]

Announcers haven't bothered to set the offense or the defense/

[jklowan]

OT, RB, CB & SAFETY ALL POSSIBLE DRAFT OPTIONS OPENING UP

[SkinBasket]

At least Love doesn’t take sacks like rodgers did.

[Teamcheez1]

Love has to get rid of the ball or run. He has plenty of time.

[beveaux1]

What was Myers doing?

[Fritz]

Fuck. Myers and Newman both sucked.

[Teamcheez1]

He had nearly 6 seconds on the 3rd down. The OL is doing their job.

[red]

Myers’s just fell down, worthless

Already forgetting to use Aaron jones

[SkinBasket]

Ah, LaFleer has his gay pride hat on. That should make this loss look more tolerant.

[red]

What was Myers doing?

Falling on his fat ass after his guy blew past him

[Fritz]

Shades of the SF playoff game years ago, when the Packers started with an interception and a score, then got run over. And over. And over.

Defense needs to step up here.

[Fosco33]

I have a thought - run the fucking ball. 2 sacks, 4 pass attempts…. Wtf

[Fritz]

Myers’s just fell down, worthless

Already forgetting to use Aaron jones

Good point. I haven't seen Jones yet.

[Sparkey]

Looking fugly so far.

[Rastak]

Last time I respected the Lions they had Billy Sims at RB.

[MadtownPacker]

Looking fugly so far.
You’re trying to be nice…

[Teamcheez1]

We look bad on both sides of the ball tonight.

[red]

Douglas beat again

[Fosco33]

Douglas has had a good start to the year and one good play… followed by 3 bad angles and poor effort.

[Teamcheez1]

We won’t be coming back in this game.
The MLF/Barry team is unprepared for a second straight game.

[Fosco33]

What is Douglas doing… totally clueless on Goff’s run and that TD run. A terrible game so far

[beveaux1]

Defense getting no pass rush. Run defense is as advertised. 14-3 Lions.

[Fritz]

Green Bay defense as soft as butter.

[Fritz]

Has Nixon even gotten a single return as far as the 25 yet this year?

[Sparkey]

Drake Maye, here we come.

[Spaulding]

Penalties, soft Barry defense and not attempts of balance offense with zero runs by Jones. Thankfully the beer fridge is fully stocked.

[beveaux1]

Has Nixon even gotten a single return as far as the 25 yet this year?

Can't remember one.

[Teamcheez1]

Excluding the 3 points on the turnover, we haven’t sustained a scoring drive in 4 of the last 5 quarters.

[SkinBasket]

At least Love is improving those accuracy numbers. ������

[red]

And now we’re running Dillon not jones

[Teamcheez1]

This team absolutely sucks tonight.

[beveaux1]

We are so bad today.

[Fosco33]

This is terrible. Time to go work on my lawnmower. That’s more entertaining

[beveaux1]

We look like we've been run over by a truck.

[Sparkey]

Good contain and awareness by the Packer D.

N O T

[red]

Joe fucking berry

[Rastak]

I assume Tex predicted a blowout. Right?

Plenty of time left to vindicate the oracle.

[Fritz]

What a shitty, suck-ass performance. Unprepared. Sloppy. Both sides/

Again, the offense is young. Okay. But where's Jones? Is he even playing?

But the defense - Jesus, please put Joe Barely out of his misery after the season. God they look awful.

[beveaux1]

I don't think we expected they'd be this good. We look shocked.

[beveaux1]

Got a pass rush that time. Gary with the rush.

[Sparkey]

Why do you take that penalty?

[Fritz]

Why take the penalty?

[beveaux1]

Why do you take that penalty?

No idea.

[Fritz]

The Packers look shell-shocked. MLF doesn't exactly seem to have the troops ready.

[MadtownPacker]

Is it was a sure TD if they went for it

[Teamcheez1]

Stop running the damn kicks out!!!!!

[Fritz]

Okay, Kesean, admire your spirit but the results suck ass.

[Rastak]

Why do you keep running it out?

[beveaux1]

They're going to hang 50 on us.

[Rastak]

Isn't it the coaching staff that tells the guy if he should run it out or not?

[Teamcheez1]

Terrible decision and throw.

[red]

Quit trying to return the fucking ball

[Sparkey]

51 - 3 ?

[MadtownPacker]

Ah, LaFleer has his gay pride hat on. That should make this loss look more tolerant.

I thought so as well but its actually for cancer awareness instead of pink.

[Sparkey]

G A M E. O V E R.

[MadtownPacker]

They're going to hang 50 on us.
Maybe they want the record of 73

[SkinBasket]

That was the defense’s fault. Totally. Not Love’s.

[Fritz]

Blowout now, Defense didn't even put up a fight.

[pittstang5]

What a nightmare!

[Fritz]

I see some porn and an early bedtime for me. Christ this is painful.

[Teamcheez1]

Not ready to play for a second straight game.
I’m starting to think the MLF/Barry team is not the staff to lead a rebuild.

[red]

2nd game in a row we weren’t prepared to play what so ever

[Fritz]

Green Bay hsn't even used Jones yet, have they?

[SkinBasket]

I thought so as well but its actually for cancer awareness instead of pink.

That’s the strangest cancer hat I’ve ever seen then. I’m sure the gays will shame them for misappropriating the rainbow, because they totally haven’t.

[MadtownPacker]

That was the defense’s fault. Totally. Not Love’s.
Wow even Rastak isn’t trolling this hard.

[beveaux1]

We don't have one first down. Unbelievable.

[Sparkey]

Love forcing throws to Watson.

[pittstang5]

Does Detriot have the Packers playbook

[Fritz]

Fuck. They are getting whipped.

[Fritz]

This is an embarrassing performance.MLF should return some of his pay for this one.

[Sparkey]

Crazy, but it looks like the Lions know what play is being run.

[sharpe1027]

With this line. We. Can't. Block.

[red]

Totally unacceptable gameplan

[Fritz]

What does the offense have, -6 yards so far?

And the defense, are they determined to give up more than 500 yards?

[beveaux1]

Walker and Gary came to play.

[Fritz]

At least Quay Walker hits hard.

[beveaux1]

Reed being a rookie.

[Spaulding]

Holy fuck is this a hot mess.

[Fritz]

Fucking clown show. Was that Reed>

Hmm. Maybe Brian Branch would've been a better pick...

[Rastak]

That was sorta fucked up.

[pittstang5]

Keystone Cops out there....jeez!

[Rastak]

Good stuff to get that out.

[pittstang5]

Seems Packers are never ready for a Thursday night game. I hate Thursday night games!!!1

[beveaux1]

First 1st down...by penalty.

[red]

Fuck Aaron jones

[SkinBasket]

Wow even Rastak isn’t trolling this hard.

Again with the trolling? Have you koolaid drinking motherfuckers ever CONSIDERED the fact that Love is a shit QB? For fucks sake, open your eyes.

[Fritz]

So they get a first down . . . via penalty.

[beveaux1]

Does anybody block?

[Teamcheez1]

Love looks bad tonight.

[Rastak]

He lost weight?

[Fritz]

I heard MLF is an offensive mastermind.

[pittstang5]

They better start looking at the waiver wires or on other teams' practice squad for some o-linemen. THese guys suck!

[MadtownPacker]

Again with the trolling? Have you koolaid drinking motherfuckers ever CONSIDERED the fact that Love is a shit QB? For fucks sake, open your eyes.
Ok tonight you are trending towards being right

[pittstang5]

They need to start dinking and dunking, slow that pass rush down.

[beveaux1]

That inside of our line is terrible.

[red]

This is terrible

Hope they get the shit booed out of them at halftime

[sharpe1027]

Again with the trolling? Have you koolaid drinking motherfuckers ever CONSIDERED the fact that Love is a shit QB? For fucks sake, open your eyes.

Meh. Too small a sample size. Of course, I'm sure you can be certain in your assessment.

[pittstang5]

How Newman is still on this team is beyond me. He must have naked pictures of Gutey's mom or something.

[red]

That inside of our line is terrible.

So is the outside

[Fritz]

I hate this Green Bay defense.

Sure, the offense is sucking ass. But they are young and the whole left side of the offensive line is missing. But the defense just looks lost, and by this point in Joe Barely's tenure, their "identity" is that of a mostly soft defense.

[Fritz]

Even when the Packers hit a Detroit running back at the line, they still end up gaining about six yards. Lame.

[Fritz]

What happened to Devonte Wyatt's breakout year?

[Sparkey]

Savage back to his missed tackling self.

[beveaux1]

Detroit is a lot better than us today.

[Sparkey]

Walker looks exhausted out there.

[Teamcheez1]

Definitely not watching this after halftime.

[beveaux1]

Walker looks exhausted out there.

One offensive first down.

[Rastak]

This LaPorta kid looks decent.

[Fritz]

Christ, this sucks. They're not competetive.

[SkinBasket]

Meh. Too small a sample size. Of course, I'm sure you can be certain in your assessment.

I am certain in my assessment, because it’s been developed over years of watching him, but keep clinging to your hope, because that’s totally quantifiable. Sorry if one person observing obvious problems in the development of a lackluster 4th year QB shakes the foundations of homer nation, but the guy isn’t that fucking good. At all. Now we know how bears fans have felt like… forever.

[beveaux1]

Our defense hasn't been good, but the offense is completely non-existent when they're not turning it over.

[SkinBasket]

Ok tonight you are trending towards being right

I love you too

[Fritz]

Green Bay getting punched in the mouth.

[MadtownPacker]

I am certain in my assessment, because it’s been developed over years of watching him, but keep clinging to your hope, because that’s totally quantifiable. Sorry if one person observing obvious problems in the development of a lackluster 4th year QB shakes the foundations of homer nation, but the guy isn’t that fucking good. At all. Now we know how bears fans have felt like… forever.
Ohhh so you watch him in college. Ok that does give you some cred.

[Teamcheez1]

The Packers offense has not been able to generate a scoring drive in the first half the last two games(excluding the Int tonight).

[Fritz]

I am looking forward to hearing the booing when the Packers leave the field.

Embarrasing.

[MadtownPacker]

Green Bay getting punched in the mouth.
Seems more like kicked while down on the ground. :lol:

[SkinBasket]

Ohhh so you watch him in college. Ok that does give you some cred.

It’s more his performance that should. But I’m sure it’s not his fault. Seriously, did Love buy this site while I was away? Oh! Nevermind! He completed a pass!!! Fuck yeah!! The comeback is on!!!

[MadtownPacker]

It’s more his performance that should. But I’m sure it’s not his fault. Seriously, did Love buy this site while I was away? Oh! Nevermind! He completed a pass!!! Fuck yeah!! The comeback is on!!!
It is his 4th game so maybe you’re being premature like on date night.

[SkinBasket]

Oops. Never mind. I’m so glad we have a young athletic QB now…

[beveaux1]

Walker looks terrible, along with the entire middle of the line. This is going to be really ugly.

[pittstang5]

Green Bay getting punched in the mouth.

Punched in the mouth, in the gut and in the nuts. GB should just forfeit at half time.

[SkinBasket]

It is his 4th game so maybe you’re being premature like on date night.

Like I said, it must not be his fault.

[smuggler]

Can't say I'm surprised by the offense. Every lineman is either playing hurt, a second stringer, or a liability.

The defense looks like dogshit again.

[King Friday]

Total zero by all phases and planning. This is the least innovative offensive game plan I’ve ever seen from MLF.

[Teamcheez1]

Peace out.

[beveaux1]

Walker with another bad play.

[red]

Well at least we finally remembered that jones is on the roster

Too bad we keep remembering at halftime

[MadtownPacker]

NFL helping the Pack early today?

[red]

Fuck Dillon

And so much for us having a deep o line, our backups suck

[smuggler]

So excited for Dennis Allen or Jim Leonhard at DC next season.

[beveaux1]

Watson almost dropped it.

[smuggler]

I missed Musgrave's concussion. How bad was it?

[beveaux1]

3 and out.

[beveaux1]

Brooks!!

[beveaux1]

What a throw!!

[beveaux1]

TD!! Love!!

[beveaux1]

I missed Musgrave's concussion. How bad was it?

Out for the game.

[King Friday]

Worst special teams performance in quite awhile.

[smuggler]

Quay's penalty cost Green Bay 4 points and 3 minutes of clock in the 4th.

[beveaux1]

Team has played much better in the 2nd half.

[RashanGary]

Was anyone else frustrated with Love holding the ball the whole first half?

[smuggler]

Love in the first four games has been most frustrating for me because he was missing open receivers deep but also short/intermediate.

You can survive without connecting on the deep hitters if you move the chains. He's struggled at both, in one way or another.

[RashanGary]

Who’s worse, skinbasket; Jordan Love or Atari Bigby?

[Harlan Huckleby]

skin ftw

[RashanGary]

This was a painful game. It showed a whole new layer of potential Jordan Love problems. So far he hasn’t been holding the ball, but the first half he stood there like Rodgers, only worse because he never tried to leave the pocket when it collapsed

[smuggler]

Doubs and Love not on the same page. Hard to blame Love for that one. The receiver was open but cleared out.

[RashanGary]

Just throw a Hail Mary.

[MadtownPacker]

Who’s worse, skinbasket; Jordan Love or Atari Bigby?
You

[RashanGary]

Hail Mary. Onside. Hail Mary. Onside. Hail Mary. Win.

[MadtownPacker]

skin ftw
Cancel that RG, I just found someone much worse…

[sharpe1027]

I am certain in my assessment, because it’s been developed over years of watching him, but keep clinging to your hope, because that’s totally quantifiable. Sorry if one person observing obvious problems in the development of a lackluster 4th year QB shakes the foundations of homer nation, but the guy isn’t that fucking good. At all. Now we know how bears fans have felt like… forever.

You keep pretending like everyone else is taking an extreme view on Love being a sure hall of fame.. It probably makes you feel good, but it's bullshit and tiresome.

[KYPack]

Johnson, the Lions OC has future HC written all over him.

[sharpe1027]

Who’s worse, skinbasket; Jordan Love or Atari Bigby?

Me. I'm unredeemable.

[sharpe1027]

Doubs and Love not on the same page. Hard to blame Love for that one. The receiver was open but cleared out.

It was a late throw by Love.

[KYPack]

We may need to dig up Bobby Layne and get him to renew the curse.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wonder if teams are getting film on Love and figuring him out.

[sharpe1027]

I wonder if teams are getting film on Love and figuring him out.

You don't need to figure out a QB when you get that kind of pressure.

[RashanGary]

You don't need to figure out a QB when you get that kind of pressure.

There is some truth here, but Love could have gotten the ball out more quickly too. I’ve seen Brady, Brees and Manning slow down a pass rush with quick passes quite a few times over the last 20 years. Favre too. Most of the greats can frustrate a good pass rush.

[Tony Oday]

There is some truth here, but Love could have gotten the ball out more quickly too. I’ve seen Brady, Brees and Manning slow down a pass rush with quick passes quite a few times over the last 20 years. Favre too. Most of the greats can frustrate a good pass rush.

And good coaching would do that...

[sharpe1027]

There is some truth here, but Love could have gotten the ball out more quickly too. I’ve seen Brady, Brees and Manning slow down a pass rush with quick passes quite a few times over the last 20 years. Favre too. Most of the greats can frustrate a good pass rush.

That's also about play calling. I think it a combination of MLF's strategy and Love contributed, but the primary fault was the line.

[Freak Out]

Pack was outclassed and dominated. The OL were a bunch of stumblebums.

[King Friday]

I’m not worried about Love yet. Way too many Packers fans expect him to look like a HOF QB that has been in the league for 10 years. That isn’t realistic. Compare Love tonight to Ridder last week. He’s got plenty of future in this league, but he still has a ways to go to master the offense and develop chemistry with receivers. The Lions have one of the best defenses in football. They’ve been drafting high for years, and have done reasonably well at it. It shows.

The Packers largest issue remains the coaching staff. Barely is a zero. So is Bitch-sack. How many times does a guy have to return a kick from five yards deep in the end zone before you kick him square in the junk? And WTF with Quay’s penalty? Special teams truly looks special in the short yellow bus kind of way. MLF has also mailed in some duds with poor gameplans and the continued failure to utilize Aaron Jones properly. The coaching staff is a more pressing concern to me.

The OL is a tire fire that can only be fixed through several good drafts.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The OL is a tire fire that can only be fixed through several good drafts.


The Bahk fiasco is at center of problem.
-Captain Obvious

[Teamcheez1]

Mama told me there’d be days like this.
This team has a lot of limitations that were to be expected with such a young group.
I’m looking for growth and improvement as the season rolls on. We obviously need the OL to gel if possible, a more cohesive defense (Barry?), and Love to grow with his receivers.
I am disappointed with the coaching staff.

[Fritz]

Pack was outclassed and dominated. The OL were a bunch of stumblebums.

Both sides of the ball were manhandled, absolutely manhandled.

Offense was awful, but they are young there. The defense, though, just plays weak and misses assignments, despite all those first round picks and this being year three of Joe Barely. It's very unlikely they'd fire Joe mid-season, but my god, this is embarrassing.

Ten days to smell the stink of that turd.

MLF needs to be criticized, too. This team was not ready to play, period. And again, wtf with not using Aaron Jones until well into the game? If he's not really ready physically, then why bother having him suit up?

MLF not looking good here. At all. Put him on the toilet-seat-is-getting warm, not because the offense is making mistakes, but because his defensive coaching hire was terrible, his gameplans don't utilize his best offensive player, and his team's not ready to play.

[jklowan]

Both sides of the ball were manhandled, absolutely manhandled.

Offense was awful, but they are young there. The defense, though, just plays weak and misses assignments, despite all those first round picks and this being year three of Joe Barely. It's very unlikely they'd fire Joe mid-season, but my god, this is embarrassing.

Ten days to smell the stink of that turd.

MLF needs to be criticized, too. This team was not ready to play, period. And again, wtf with not using Aaron Jones until well into the game? If he's not really ready physically, then why bother having him suit up?

MLF not looking good here. At all. Put him on the toilet-seat-is-getting warm, not because the offense is making mistakes, but because his defensive coaching hire was terrible, his gameplans don't utilize his best offensive player, and his team's not ready to play.


The 1st time I agree with one of your posts. I was starting to feel okay with this team's development and then this turd comes along. I cannot remember the last time I had to turn off a game at halftime. I say fire him today, how much worse can the d play and I am being dead serious, is Jim Leonhard still available?

[run pMc]

Johnson, the Lions OC has future HC written all over him.

Agree. I'm surprised he didn't get more interest last offseason. I'm fairly certain he'll be a hot name this year to coach somewhere like CHI, HOU, or TEN.

[run pMc]

The 1st time I agree with one of your posts. I was starting to feel okay with this team's development and then this turd comes along. I cannot remember the last time I had to turn off a game at halftime. I say fire him today, how much worse can the d play and I am being dead serious, is Jim Leonhard still available?



IIRC he took a job as a consultant or something for the U of Illinois football team?
Either way, it's EXTREMELY unlikely they would can their DC after 4 games and bring someone new in to try and teach a new scheme. That would be a big disruption and probably not improve things soon enough to make any difference. Also, it's Barry's last year on his contract. They know it's a youngish team (not as much on defense) and they're just going to ride it out with Barry for the year.

It's interesting, special teams coaches used to be the ones everyone hated... nowadays it's the DCs. The rules have been altered to favor the offenses so I think they are at a bit of a disadvantage. If get a genius as your DC, you're probably losing them to be hired away as a HC, and you're left hating who you get next.

[bobblehead]

There is some truth here, but Love could have gotten the ball out more quickly too. I’ve seen Brady, Brees and Manning slow down a pass rush with quick passes quite a few times over the last 20 years. Favre too. Most of the greats can frustrate a good pass rush.

Agree. Even if nothing is there, at some point you have to fire it out of bounds. He held it way too long early and that just serves to get you hit and wear down your OL.

[RashanGary]

Agree. Even if nothing is there, at some point you have to fire it out of bounds. He held it way too long early and that just serves to get you hit and wear down your OL.

That’s what I was seeing. Standing there patting the ball. Of course a good rush will get home. The great ones get the ball out quickly, and in a way that gives their guy a chance while not being a big interception risk at the same time.

[Fritz]

Did he even have many check-down options?

[SkinBasket]

Who’s worse, skinbasket; Jordan Love or Atari Bigby?

Tough call, both getting the homer treatment and all. I would say Bigby talent wise, but at least he was decisive in his ineptitude. Love is like seaweed swishing around in the waves, but with less elusiveness, which is hard given those roots and all, and less personality, and less leadership. Also, Bigby didn’t have the benefit of being groomed behind a HOFer.

Only one thing is certain: neither could hit an open receiver.

[Fritz]

Tough call, both getting the homer treatment and all. I would say Bigby talent wise, but at least he was decisive in his ineptitude. Love is like seaweed swishing around in the waves, but with less elusiveness, which is hard given those roots and all, and less personality, and less leadership. Also, Bigby didn’t have the benefit of being groomed behind a HOFer.

Only one thing is certain: neither could hit an open receiver.

Aaron Rodgers is a pedophile? Oh wait, Love was a legal adult.

[jklowan]

can we ban Lil Wayne from leading the team onto the field again

[red]

can we ban Lil Wayne from leading the team onto the field again

It’s an embarrassment that he’s even associated with the team

[call_me_ishmael]

Man, Atari Bigby really shined for like a 16 week period over two years there. Dude had a hell of a minute there.

[RashanGary]

Agree. Even if nothing is there, at some point you have to fire it out of bounds. He held it way too long early and that just serves to get you hit and wear down your OL.

MLF made comments about the growth process and knowing to get it out sooner against those kinds of defenses. Which is kind of strange to me, honestly, like he couldn’t have had that conversation before the game that maybe getting it out would be a good idea against these guys?? I don’t know, maybe love will “grow”, but it’s not a good sign that it wasn’t a priority point during the week and he had to get slapped around for a half to figure it out.

JT O’Sullivan has a really cool qb school thing he does on YouTube and patreon. He did 30 minutes on Love and said he should have been getting the ball out. So it wasn’t like we were imagining things there.