View Full Version : Straight up trade, QB for QB, who would you take for Love, TODAY?
George Cumby
01-16-2024, 04:10 PM
Title.
Who in the league would you trade Love for TODAY, one for one.
Mahomes? Mahomes, might be better today, but Love's got more years in him.
Allen? Allen's more dynamic running, but Love's got more years ahead of him and has a better head-space.
Hurts? Not after yesterday.
Purdy? I don't buy he's better than the Love Machine.
Tua? Lol.
Murray? Lolol.
Rodgers? GTFOH
I should probably wait for the season to end, but fuck it, uncertainty is part of the fun.
Let's hear it.
Fritz
01-16-2024, 04:56 PM
Would you trade him to Chicago for the right to draft Williams or Mayes???
Joemailman
01-16-2024, 05:01 PM
I don't think I'd trade Love for any of them. Like you said, he's younger than Mahomes and less mistake prone than Allen. Burrow is great, but injury prone. I haven't seen Stroud enough to judge him yet.
Weird fact: Mahomes will be playing in his 1st true road playoff game this weekend. He's always been at home in postseason except for neutral sites at Super Bowls.
texaspackerbacker
01-16-2024, 05:08 PM
hahahahaha You left out Dak, Fields, and Lamar Jackson. No, I wouldn't take them or any of those others for Love who at this point looks likely to be the third consecutive Packer H.O.F. QB.
Mahomes, Allen, and Jackson might be close, but other than that, not even close.
Rodgers? I've said, I expect 3-5 or more excellent years still in the tank for Rodgers. But Love is worth a helluva lot more than that.
George Cumby
01-16-2024, 06:57 PM
Would you trade him to Chicago for the right to draft Williams or Mayes???
Fuck no.
We KNOW we have a really good to excellent qb whose ceiling is apparently very, perhaps astronomically, high. Why trade that for another unknown?
call_me_ishmael
01-16-2024, 08:47 PM
I don't think I'd trade Love for any of them. Like you said, he's younger than Mahomes and less mistake prone than Allen. Burrow is great, but injury prone. I haven't seen Stroud enough to judge him yet.
Weird fact: Mahomes will be playing in his 1st true road playoff game this weekend. He's always been at home in postseason except for neutral sites at Super Bowls.
That is a crazy stat, wow
call_me_ishmael
01-16-2024, 08:49 PM
Mahomes.
Chargers guy.
Josh Allen.
Lamar.
It’s hard to say. Longevity and consistency matter.
Fritz
01-16-2024, 09:10 PM
Fuck no.
We KNOW we have a really good to excellent qb whose ceiling is apparently very, perhaps astronomically, high. Why trade that for another unknown?
I was thinking of the salary cap aspect. A cheap young QB on the rise for five years.
But I take your point.
George Cumby
01-16-2024, 09:30 PM
Mahomes.
Chargers guy.
Josh Allen.
Lamar.
It’s hard to say. Longevity and consistency matter.
Herbert is a maybe, he's younger than Allen and Mahomes, but I'm not sold he's The Guy and I'm not convinced he's better than Love.
Lamar is more dynamic and can be a game-changer, but as it stands today, I think Love is a better qb and has more good years in front of him. Lamar could be wrecked any given play.
smuggler
01-16-2024, 09:39 PM
Fields isn't a good Quarterback. I wouldn't trade Gardner Minschew for Justin Fields.
Fields isn't a good Quarterback. I wouldn't trade Gardner Minschew for Justin Fields.
Yup.
texaspackerbacker
01-16-2024, 11:41 PM
The Bears are stupid if they give up on Fields. Fields IS a good QB. But then it's not like the Bears don't have a long history of stupidity. The Bears still suck, but Fields, not so much. (no way in hell I'd trade Love for him though, not even if they threw in a couple #1s)
Massive J
01-17-2024, 12:09 AM
Maybe Stroud. No one else.
call_me_ishmael
01-17-2024, 07:41 AM
I forgot Hollywood Joe too.
Anti-Polar Bear
01-17-2024, 09:30 AM
P-Ma is only 28 - 3 years older than Love. Still a decade of prime years left for 15. Chefs would be dumb as fuck if they traded 15 straight up for Love at this moment in space-time.
As of late, Love has no doubt been a-rocking with the awesomeness of Coldplay. But as Butte said, it’s still too early to anoint Love is as the next great rock thrower of the Pack. Whether or not Love is truly “him,” as social media has been insisting since the Dallas game, time will eventually expose the truth.
Anti-Polar Bear
01-17-2024, 09:48 AM
And before anyone calls me a hater, I (along with Harrell) voted “Great Black Hope” (Hall of Famer) in the other thread.
The future of the Pack appears bright - brighter than that of a 41 year old burger flipper, for sure. I’d take a fluke ring, but if Love could win more than a fluke ring in the Green and Mustard Yellow in my lifetime, I’d be ecstatic.
run pMc
01-17-2024, 11:23 AM
I'd rather keep Love, but if Love wanted a trade and other team was willing to trade their QB:
Mahomes
Lamar
Burrow
maybe Stroud or Herbert
It's not a long list. Love needs more games but he's been getting better and better lately. I hope he isn't a flash-in-the-pan type like RG3 (I don't think he is), but a lot of other smart people seem to think he's both good and a franchise QB.
I'd trade Minshew for Fields, but that's about who I'd trade for Fields. I think he'd be a great backup for Lamar, and might be good with the right offense. He might be good fit in ATL. You have to give him a good OL and cater your offense to his skills. CHI didn't really do that well, and they generally ruin QBs by rushing them onto the field with subpar surrounding talent. As it is, Fields is not a top 10 QB and I'm not sure if he will be. He might be Marcus Mariota (or other similar QB) v2.0.
texaspackerbacker
01-17-2024, 12:51 PM
K.C. fans must be wondering if Mahomes has plateaued and is gonna start to fade, or if he's just had some bad luck or whatever this year (bad luck might be spelled mvs hahahaha). Stroud has been better than I expected, and he's only a rookie. I think, though, he won't prove to be as durable as Love.
I say again, ya'all are selling Fields short. He's for sure the second best QB in the division - better than either Goff or Cousins. Not top 10? There might be 6 or 8 better, but I doubt 10.
MadtownPacker
01-17-2024, 01:01 PM
What the hell is wrong with Georgie pulling a bretsky level trolling like this. Like TO said, that my quarterback! Now I hope this happens when he is walking to the game with his ticket in hand:
https://youtu.be/1xPdIzWd9V0?si=co-BDbudaajW4cgM
ThunderDan
01-17-2024, 02:48 PM
K.C. fans must be wondering if Mahomes has plateaued and is gonna start to fade, or if he's just had some bad luck or whatever this year (bad luck might be spelled mvs hahahaha). Stroud has been better than I expected, and he's only a rookie. I think, though, he won't prove to be as durable as Love.
I say again, ya'all are selling Fields short. He's for sure the second best QB in the division - better than either Goff or Cousins. Not top 10? There might be 6 or 8 better, but I doubt 10.
Listening to Pat & Jim about the Bears. They said if Cousins comes back healthy for the Vikings, the Bears have the worst starter in the NFC North.
George Cumby
01-17-2024, 03:06 PM
What the hell is wrong with Georgie pulling a bretsky level trolling like this. Like TO said, that my quarterback! Now I hope this happens when he is walking to the game with his ticket in hand:
https://youtu.be/1xPdIzWd9V0?si=co-BDbudaajW4cgM
Stop clowning around, Ringmaster Mad, you know you like it when this three ring circus is going full tilt-a-wheel.
My point is that there might be a handful, maybe, of QB's whose current state of play and long-term prospects are better than the Love Machine's.
I'm just curious to know who, by consensus (LOL, right) they might be.
George Cumby
01-17-2024, 03:07 PM
Listening to Pat & Jim about the Bears. They said if Cousins comes back healthy for the Vikings, the Bears have the worst starter in the NFC North.
Even as pro-Bear as Jim is, he's pretty critical of Fields' inability to read defenses.
BrokenArrow
01-17-2024, 03:49 PM
Today? Wouldn't trade him for anyone. We have a game Saturday and that's not enough time to learn the offense. After the playoffs? Still nobody.
run pMc
01-17-2024, 04:23 PM
Even as pro-Bear as Jim is, he's pretty critical of Fields' inability to read defenses.
Fields is the most talented physically in the division, but he's probably the worst out of himself, Love, Goff and Cousins. Cousins was having a pretty good season before the injury. Goff is good if he isn't under a lot of pressure.
I can name 10 QBs who are better players than Fields, but not 10 who are more physically gifted. There's a difference.
Mahomes is fine. His receivers and OL have really let him down and it's showing this year. They brought in different OTs and they haven't been good (or healthy) and the only receiver outside of Kelce that is trustworthy is a rookie (Rashee Rice). Toney and Moore and MVS have not been major contributors unless you mean contributors to a loss. They have something called Justin Watson catching passes at this point because their receivers are so inconsistent. They tried bringing back Mecole Hardman. Get Mahomes another good WR so he has better options and he'll be cooking again. He's still good.
smuggler
01-17-2024, 08:16 PM
Listening to Pat & Jim about the Bears. They said if Cousins comes back healthy for the Vikings, the Bears have the worst starter in the NFC North.
They're right and it's not even debatable. Talent is not greatness. If it were just talent, Fields is elite. He is this generation's Jeff George without the personality disorder.
Mahomes is fine. His receivers and OL have really let him down and it's showing this year. They brought in different OTs and they haven't been good (or healthy) and the only receiver outside of Kelce that is trustworthy is a rookie (Rashee Rice). Toney and Moore and MVS have not been major contributors unless you mean contributors to a loss. They have something called Justin Watson catching passes at this point because their receivers are so inconsistent. They tried bringing back Mecole Hardman. Get Mahomes another good WR so he has better options and he'll be cooking again. He's still good.
This. People who don't know football don't comprehend how important the other 10 guys are on offense. They'll get a new tackle, a new receiver, and he'll win another MVP.
MadtownPacker
01-17-2024, 09:23 PM
This interview alone shows what we got. Did you ever hear Rodgers refer to his teammates as his brothers like this?
https://youtu.be/i8jmrgnis-c?si=d5lOkICY1Q-MvTZS hi
bobblehead
01-18-2024, 01:39 PM
Rodgers talked this way at that point in his career. Had cookouts with the offense. He became diva as he turned 37 and the guys around him were 25.
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