Studs and Dud, Opportunities Missed, Opportunities Lost Edition. Divisional Loss to the Niners

[George Cumby]

Stud:

MLF: Some lights out play calling and his team was ready to play.

Dud:

MLF: Some brain-dead clock management decisions among and some other bad decisions.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Love’s game in the clutch made skinbasket hard. Threw behind Kraft for pick. Threw behind Jones when he coulda just ran for 1st. Last throw was the mother of all fuck ups. Bluntly put, Love choked in the clutch.

The Norwegian kicker sucks. Also choked in the clutch.

Packers need new bloods at safety. 21 Savage and Michael Phelps’ husband are serviceable at times but both ain’t hip hop.

Goddamn. Why do playoffs losses hurt so much?

[Joemailman]

Dud: Matt Orzech. Put one snap on the ground, and on the missed FG, looked like the snap was off line. Not sure if it affected the kick or not.

[MadtownPacker]

Duds

Carlson. Lots of shit went wrong but getting FG in a playoff game should be almost automatic. I like many others said this guy would cost us when it mattered most and it did.

Snapper -I thought it was Purdy snapping the ball the way it was off target. Made Carlson bad night guaranteed.

[Upnorth]

Stud: 2023 season outcome.

Replace a 1st ballot hof with a 1st year starter and have youngest team in playoff history and win
Oline replaces borderline hof lt and improves .
Injured to beat heck and improved.

Guys, Packer life is good.

[MadtownPacker]

Stud

Aaron Jones had me believing. Got 100yd vs D that hadn’t let anyone do that in forever. He put it all out there.

Romeo like Jones was killing it. Where did he go?

[Joemailman]

Stud: 2023 season outcome.

Replace a 1st ballot hof with a 1st year starter and have youngest team in playoff history and win
Oline replaces borderline hof lt and improves .
Injured to beat heck and improved.

Guys, Packer life is good.

Grief is okay now. WE have all offseason to gain perspective.

[Upnorth]

Grief is okay now. WE have all offseason to gain perspective.

Sure, but for the 1st time since 2016 I'm okay with a playoff loss.

I honestly expected that we would collapse yesterday, but we didn't.
Everything about that game was a win except the scre

[run pMc]

Was a tough loss even though the regualr season finish and rapid development curve of Love and the rookies gives a lot of optimism for the future. This season was a helluva journey.

Absolutely hate losing to the NFCW in the playoffs though. GB had opportunities to win this game and couldn't capitalize.

[MadtownPacker]

Almost forgot, Stud - TexasPackerBacker - When rats couldn't get a streak going for shit, Tex reluctantly stepped in and went for probably the 8th or 9th longest game thread streak in PR history. I would also say one of the most unexpected. The season started rough, but he never gave up hope even when us shitheads were being negativist :lol:.

[texaspackerbacker]

Thanks. I'm humbled, and that hardly ever happens hahahaha. I'm predicting I won't do this next year because the Packers go 17-0 into the playoffs so whoever starts the season goes the distance. Ya'all heard it here first.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Thanks. I'm humbled, and that hardly ever happens hahahaha. I'm predicting I won't do this next year because the Packers go 17-0 into the playoffs so whoever starts the season goes the distance. Ya'all heard it here first.

In Butte’s first playoff experience as “him,” he choked in the clutch. Overthrowing a WIDE OPEN Greg Jennings in OT before fumbling away the season (the latter, there shoulda been a flag - fuck the refs). Next season, Butte led Pack to the Promised Land.

Love’s first dance as “him,” same shit - choked in the clutch. Will the Cinderella Love story conclude with a fairytale ending next season?

I would love to bear witness to a Packers-Jesters Super Bowl.

[Fritz]

Dud: Matt Orzech. Put one snap on the ground, and on the missed FG, looked like the snap was off line. Not sure if it affected the kick or not.

Has any other team in the NFL had as hard a time finding a decent long snapper? It’s like da Bears trying to find a quarterback.

Love was really “meh.” Had one of the best throws I’ve ever seen - yo Doubs on the sideline - but APB has detailed Love’s crap throws.

Kickers are easy targets. And Carlson cost the team. But how about the TWO right-in-their-hands dropped picks by Savage and Nixon?

And, like Randy Van Wormer, just when we needed the D the most to pressure Purdy, they disappeared. Purdy got comfortable at the end of the game.

Aaron Jones was THE stud of the game.

[run pMc]

LACES OUT DAN!

[Bretsky]

Almost forgot, Stud - TexasPackerBacker - When rats couldn't get a streak going for shit, Tex reluctantly stepped in and went for probably the 8th or 9th longest game thread streak in PR history. I would also say one of the most unexpected. The season started rough, but he never gave up hope even when us shitheads were being negativist :lol:.


Screw Tex's half baked streak :)

Deebo went down, the stars were aligned, and he flat out Choked with his final thread

Who was it that led our last Super Bowl run when we won it all ? lol

[MadtownPacker]

Off the back of the brown man!! Same as Tex you started your streak with two games left in the season.

Then you led the 15-1 season choke. :lol:

[Bretsky]

Off the back of the brown man!! Same as Tex you started your streak with two games left in the season.

Then you led the 15-1 season choke. :lol:

I have no recollection of the second part of that :)

[Arctic Fox]

Studs: the offense and defense

Dud. Carlson, he sucks, he's not NFL Material

[RashanGary]

19 of the 20 kickers with most points all time are between 5’10” and 6’2”

One is 6’4”

Anders is 6’5”


I looked at pics. He has normal leg length with a weird long Gumby torso.

I don’t think he has the problem of trying to get control of long limbs, but maybe his center of gravity is hard to manage with that Gumby torso he’s rocking.

I don’t know what Gute and his team of mad scientists are trying to do with these skinny tall kickers, but it’s not working.

[RashanGary]

And his leg isn’t as strong as we’re lead to believe. The kicker in Dallas, I shit you not, sent a 59 harder 15 yards past the uprights on day I was watching. And then on the kickoff he kicked a high boomer, the type of kick I only ever see land short or at best on the goal line. His went straight out the back of the end zone.

That kid has a leg. Our guy just looks like a normal kicker who can’t make kicks.

[Fritz]

19 of the 20 kickers with most points all time are between 5’10” and 6’2”

One is 6’4”

Anders is 6’5”


I looked at pics. He has normal leg length with a weird long Gumby torso.

I don’t think he has the problem of trying to get control of long limbs, but maybe his center of gravity is hard to manage with that Gumby torso he’s rocking.

I don’t know what Gute and his team of mad scientists are trying to do with these skinny tall kickers, but it’s not working.

Skinny tall kickers? Mason Crosby was 4'-10"

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[Anti-Polar Bear]

Wrong thread.

[call_me_ishmael]

Anders Carlson has a higher career FG% than Mason Crosby, which is surprising. He is much lower on PATs, though. TBF, they did move it back a few years ago so they've gotten harder. Still, MC is significantly better.

Carlson really sucks from 40-49 years out where he is 50% which is trash compared to Mason.

[texaspackerbacker]

I would suggest that almost every college team has a kicker that good or better, and at least 1/4 of them graduate every year. We should bring in 8 or 10 and keep the best two including one on the PS. Give Carlson a fair chance to compete against them.

[call_me_ishmael]

You're absolutely out of your mind if you think that chunky ass kicker from UW a few years back has any place in the NFL.

[texaspackerbacker]

True about that. Who ever said he did? I sure as hell didn't. But there are a helluva lot of college kickers coming out every year as good or better than Carlson or at least as good as he has played so far.

[run pMc]

If that were true, teams would never sign their kickers to extensions. They would just sign someone who just got their diploma.
Kickers overall have gotten better, but the league is going thru a stretch where finding a quality reliable consistent one is easier said than done. They usually take a bit of development.

This year there really wasn't cap space or lofty expectations, so having a young kicker work out the kinks isn't the worst thing... assuming he works out the kinks. I think Carlson absolutely needs to improve, and I also think the team needs to bring in camp competition.

The SF playoff loss did not hinge solely on a missed FG. There was dropped Savage Int, a bad 4th & 1 spot, a bad final Int by Jordan Love, and a few other plays that were just as critical. SF's K had one blocked, nobody is going to run him out of town for that.

[bobblehead]

19 of the 20 kickers with most points all time are between 5’10” and 6’2”

One is 6’4”

Anders is 6’5”


I looked at pics. He has normal leg length with a weird long Gumby torso.

I don’t think he has the problem of trying to get control of long limbs, but maybe his center of gravity is hard to manage with that Gumby torso he’s rocking.

I don’t know what Gute and his team of mad scientists are trying to do with these skinny tall kickers, but it’s not working.

JH with a very good point. Its like hitters in baseball. The longer the limbs, the harder it is to slot in a swing.

[BrokenArrow]

SF's K had one blocked, nobody is going to run him out of town for that.

Why would they? That wasn't his fault.

[bobblehead]

Why would they? That wasn't his fault.

Well...I'd have to look at the film, but a Kicker has to elevate his kick. If he kicked a line drive then it could be on him. IIRC there wasn't a lot of penetration on the play which actually makes me lean towards it was his fault.

[RashanGary]

Crosby kicked in a lot of bad weather. He had some tough stretches with bad holders and snappers. He also had a couple ruts earlier in his career. His percentage isn’t great. He’s really not some legendary kicker.

But Crosby was clutch. And you don’t want the “kicker”, a guy mixing with the warrior, who is basically getting a free pass from danger, being arrogant or an ass hole in any way. Crosby acted like a kicker should act, and that’s supportive of the guys around him who were putting their bodies on the line every week. It takes a damn decent dude to be able to be one of the guys with those surrounding circumstances, and by all accounts, no one ever felt any type of way about him being a free loader.

I’m ok riding with Carlson if he’s a great fit in the lockerroom. That’s a position where you really can dial in and become your best with a couple years of fine tuning the craft.

But if there are any signs of douchebaggery, move on to the next guy.

[Bretsky]

I would welcome GB drafting the best Kicker in college football, if there is one.

Who is this years's Jake Moody ?

If you believe the team is going to be good for several years, no need to F'ck around with that position. Just find the real deal

[texaspackerbacker]

Or scout the various college soccer teams - Aubrey is even better than Moody.

[RashanGary]

Or scout the various college soccer teams - Aubrey is even better than Moody.

I’ve never seen a 60 yard field goal clear an additional 15 yards in my years of watching football. Aubrey is a freaking unicorn. He’s gonna make one from 70. McCarthy loves long field goals

[Bretsky]

Wasn't Aubrey a USFL kicker or something ? He was there for anybody

[texaspackerbacker]

Notre Dame, not the football team but the soccer team. Jerry Jones-level GMship.

[Bretsky]

3. Boise State image Jonah Dalmas, K, Boise State
Height: 5-8. Weight: 161.
Projected Round (2024): 5-7.

1/20/24: Dalmas connected on 89 percent on his field goals in 2023. His longest went for 56 yards. He was 6-for-6 in the 40-49-yard range.

7/14/23: In 2022, Dalmas made 85 percent – 23-of-27 – of his field goals with a long of 51. Dalmas showed off an accurate leg as a sophomore in 2021, hitting on 93 percent of his field goals. While he was 6-for-6 in the 40-49-yard range, his long of the season was only 47 yards and he missed his lone attempt from 50+. Dalmas hit 88 percent in the shortened 2020 season. Showing more long-range ability in 2023 could help Dalmas.


4. Missouri image Harrison Mevis, K, Missouri
Height: 5-11. Weight: 236.
Projected Round (2024): FA.

1/20/24: Mevis connected on 80 percent of his field goals in 2023, and he hit a long of 61 yards.

7/14/23: Mevis hit 22-of-28 – 79 percent- field goals in 2022, with the longest coming from 56 yards. He was a perfect 7-of-7 in the 40-49 range. Mevis had an excellent 2021 season, connecting on 92 percent of his field goals – 23-of-25 – and showed a strong leg, hitting three-of-three in the 50+ range. His season long was 56, and Mevis made 11-of-13 field goals in the 40-49-yard range. In 2020 as a freshman, Mevis hit 85 percent while kicking a long of 52

[Bretsky]

1. Alabama image Will Reichard, K, Alabama
Height: 6-1. Weight: 194.
Projected Round (2024): 5-7.

1/20/24: Reichard was very good in 2023, connecting on 22-of-25 – 88 percent – of his attempts and hitting a long of 52 yards. From 50 yards and beyond, Reichard was a superb 5-of-5. He had been impressive in the 40-49-yard range at 6-of-6 before going 1-of-4 there in the latter half of the season. In 2022, he made 85 percent of his field goals, with his longest being 52 yards. Reichard has a strong leg and improved his accuracy over a 5-year career with the Crimson Tide.

2. Stanford image Joshua Karty, K, Stanford
Height: 6-2. Weight: 208.
Projected Round (2024): 5-7.

1/20/24: Karty had a strong senior year, connecting on 85 percent (23-of-27) of his field goals and a long of 56 yards. He was 7-of-7 in the 40-49-yard range and 4-of-7 in from 50 and beyond. Karty earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl.