Conference Championship Game Thread

[Joemailman]

AFC Title Game - 2:00 - CBS

(3) Kansas City at (1) Baltimore

Ravens favored by 4
Moneyline: Chiefs +175, Ravens -210
Over/under: 44.5
Weather: 45 degrees, rain likely

Last meeting: September 19, 2021. Raiders defeated Chiefs 36-35. Lamar Jackson passed for 239 yards and 1 TD and rushed for 107 yards and 2 TD's. Marquise Brown caught 6 passes for 113 yards and 1 TD. Patrick Mahomes passed for 343 yards and 3 TD's. Travis Kelce caught 7 passes for 109 yards and 1 TD.

NFC Title Game - 5:30 - Fox

(3) Detroit at (1) San Francisco

49ers favored by 7.5
Moneyline: Lions +280, 49ers -360
Over/under: 51.5
Weather: 73 degrees and partly cloudy

Last meeting: September 12, 2021. 49ers defeated Lions 41-33. Jimmy Garoppolo threw for 313 yards and 1 TD. Deebo Samuel caught 9 passes for 189 yards and 1 TD. Elijah Mitchell rushed for 109 yards and 1 TD. Jared Goff threw for 338 yards and 3 TD's.

[King Friday]

First game should be a classic. Second game depends on which Goff shows up.

[Joemailman]

First game should be a classic. Second game depends on which Goff shows up.

Which Goff shows up usually depends on how much pressure defensive front puts on him. He often doesn't handle pressure well, but he can sling it if he's protected.

[Bretsky]

WHERE would you lay your coin on ?

My gut tells me San Fran handles Detroit if Deebo plays but who knows in the NFL

[texaspackerbacker]

There's more games? Why? The relevant season is OVER.

[Joemailman]

WHERE would you lay your coin on ?

My gut tells me San Fran handles Detroit if Deebo plays but who knows in the NFL

I like the 49ers. Lions defense isn't great, and it looks like Deebo is okay. 49ers really know how to defend the middle of the field and may be able to shut down LaPorta.

[George Cumby]

Ravens/SF Super Bowl, methinks.

[Bretsky]

I think I'd lay money on SF and the points. Not sure I'd touch the Ravens/Cheifs game

[bobblehead]

I'll probably nibble at the under in the SF/Det game. Fans and casual bettors see CM3, Amon Ra, and get all wet. Championship games usually turn into slugfests and end with scores like 20-17.

[bobblehead]

So SF, Balt, and KC are basically top 5 defenses in the league. Some metrics might label them subtly different, but they are all 3 in the top 10 in most measureables.

So say it with me. Defense wins championships.

[MadtownPacker]

So SF, Balt, and KC are basically top 5 defenses in the league. Some metrics might label them subtly different, but they are all 3 in the top 10 in most measureables.

So say it with me. Defense wins championships.Yep. Chiefs just stopped Lamar and now marching downfield. Not looking good for Baltinore.

[Joemailman]

One Chiefs starting OT out with injury. If his replacement holds up, Chiefs can win. Ravens lead NFL in sacks without blitzing a lot.

[Fosco33]

I’d take both road teams w/ the points and think at least one road team wins. Hope it’s Lions Ravens

[Teamcheez1]

This household rooting for the Ravens if only to avoid anymore Kelce/Swift coverage.

[Guiness]

Seemed like Jackson’s arm was moving forward on that strip, should it not be an incomplete pass?

[Joemailman]

Teams that wear purple don't belong in Owl.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Not watching. Don’t care.

[Joemailman]

Not watching. Don’t care.

You and Tex are so alike.

[Bretsky]

Patrick Mahommes is the GOAT; I knew it's a bit young but Crown his ass now ahead of when everybody will call him the GOAT 10 years from now.

Wins 89 and Losses 23

Of those 23 losses only 3 were by over 6 points, which is insane

I missed some other crazy stat but it was something like in the 10 times he's been the underdog by over 4 points he's 9-1 versus the spread

I don't care if Baltimore comes back; crown his ass now

[King Friday]

The ability of Mahomes to use his legs is the key. That is why Love needs to study hard this offseason on when to use his legs. It is better to pick up 4 yards on a scramble than throw an incompletion.

[Fosco33]

Seemed like that could’ve been a safety

[RashanGary]

Why are the most productive skill players of all time, all boring.

Brady - Steady, boring
Rice - Steady, boring
Emmitt - Steady, boring

I hope Mahommes wins 3 or 4 more because I don’t like boring players widely considered the goat of their positions.

[RashanGary]

I like Randy Moss, Tyreek Hill, Kittle, Barry Sanders, Gayle Sayers, Gronk, Mahommes, Montana


I like spectacular football. I know consistent, steady, boring is effective. I just don’t like it as much.

[Joemailman]

What a series for Flowers.

[Fosco33]

What a series for Flowers.

He’s making some plays like quay walker

[RashanGary]

Lamar trying to prove he’s not a running QB. Run you dumb ass.

[Joemailman]

Lamar has not silenced the playoff doubters.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Lamar has not silenced the playoff doubters.

Wow! Talk about blowing it in the big game, the whole team..

[RashanGary]

Lamar has the Favre/Rodgers complex

Favre refused to dial it back and play even a shred safe because he was a glory addict
Rodgers refused to take what the defense gave because he lived for glory
Lamar refuses to use his legs because he wants that smart QB glory.

[Sparkey]

Lamar is not playing great but the personal fouls are killing them.

[MadScientist]

Lamar is not playing great but the personal fouls are killing them.

End zone turnovers aren't helping either.

[RashanGary]

Ravens can still win this thing. Two timeouts. Their defense has hardly been on the field in the second half. Chiefs defense is exhausted. It’s not over.

But god damn, Lamar not playing a good game at all

[Teamcheez1]

I think Lamar is now 2-5 in the playoffs. Offense was bad for Ravens today.
Reminiscent of Rodgers last few playoff games for the Pack.

[RashanGary]

I’ve only watched the second half, but the refs have been so damn one sided.

[Joemailman]

I’ve only watched the second half, but the refs have been so damn one sided.

I think the officials were right until that last one.

[Fritz]

Lamar has not silenced the playoff doubters.

No, he has not. That last pick was mind-boggling. Threw it into three defenders.

He seems to shrivel up in big games. I wonder if he has any performance issues if he goes on a date with a big celebrity?

[RashanGary]

At least they used their timeouts correctly.

[RashanGary]

Wow, I feel sick for Ravens. Refs were horrible. Their home town hero played like shit and just like we get sick of trolls ripping Love, now they have to hear all off-season that Lamar isn’t a real QB. And it’s the chiefs again. I’m sure Chiefs fans are insufferable online.


This is the worst.

[Teamcheez1]

Don’t blame this on the refs. The Ravens offense stunk.

[Fritz]

They sure did. And in an echo of The Flower, the Raven's offensive coordinator (Todd Monk? Is that it?) totally forgot about the running game. I thought maybe MLF from early in this season was calling the plays for them.

So he put it in Jackson's hands, and Jackson dropped the ball, figuratively, at least.

[MadScientist]

Wow, I feel sick for Ravens. Refs were horrible. Their home town hero played like shit and just like we get sick of trolls ripping Love, now they have to hear all off-season that Lamar isn’t a real QB. And it’s the chiefs again. I’m sure Chiefs fans are insufferable online.


This is the worst.

The refs weren't horrible, Baltimore committed legit personal fouls. The no call on the PI was the only real miss. Baltimore's offense just could not deal with KC's blitzes. The HC and OC had a poor game plan.

[Fosco33]

Hope Niners get blown out

[Joemailman]

Hope Niners get blown out

Not me. Can't bring myself to cheer for division rivals.

[MadtownPacker]

Hope Niners get blown out
I can root for the lions this weekend and Mahomie winning the SB. :lol:

[MadScientist]

That was quick for Detroit.

[MadtownPacker]

That was quick for Detroit.
Running Packers blueprint?

[MadScientist]

Running Packers blueprint?

Including missing a pick.

[Fosco33]

I can root for the lions this weekend and Mahomie winning the SB. :lol:

It’s not so much cheering for the Lions as it is against the Niners.

[Joemailman]

Cut the kicker!

[Fritz]

I hope they both lose.

[MadtownPacker]

They did what Pack couldn’t in the first quarter.

[RashanGary]

I thought the 49ers were the most steady, disciplined team I’ve seen this year.

Packers brought young talent that could kind of out muscle them, but in the end, we were too young. Lions are the perfect team to smack these guys around. Lions physical and more disciplined and experienced than pack.

Love seeing 9ers go down. It’s about to be a rivalry with Detroit!!

[MadtownPacker]

I hope they both lose.
Welcome back!

[Fosco33]

Purdy is mediocre and tiny hands. Still early but lions have it dialed in

[RashanGary]

Bosa is overrated. He’s no better than Gary.

Hutch and Crosby and Myles Garrett are clearly better.

[RashanGary]

This is the 9ers I watched. Keep chipping away. Consistent.

Hutchinson can wreck their day though. Purdy is great against pressure and blitz when he has early options. But if a 4-man rush wins early, he has zero ability to create. And he’s young enough to fuck up. Hutchinson wins early a couple times and they can wreck drives.

[Joemailman]

Nice drive, but can they stop Lions running attack?

[MadScientist]

Nice drive, but can they stop Lions running attack?

Apparently not.

[RashanGary]

Bosa is getting chewed up.

[RashanGary]

49ers have 5 great athletes

Warner
That corner
Aiyuk
Deebo
Kittle

The Lions have about 10 of them. Maybe not as proven, but they’re loaded with physical talent. They’re slapping SF around.

[bobblehead]

Patrick Mahommes is the GOAT; I knew it's a bit young but Crown his ass now ahead of when everybody will call him the GOAT 10 years from now.

Wins 89 and Losses 23

Of those 23 losses only 3 were by over 6 points, which is insane

I missed some other crazy stat but it was something like in the 10 times he's been the underdog by over 4 points he's 9-1 versus the spread

I don't care if Baltimore comes back; crown his ass now

If we had held SF to 10 points would Love be the GOAT??

[bobblehead]

Lamar trying to prove he’s not a running QB. Run you dumb ass.

I was thinking the same thing. At times he hung in the pocket for 7 seconds. If there is a field of green he's gotta run. Its the way the offense is built.

[Joemailman]

Lions turned around their organization by building a great offensive line.

[bobblehead]

Lions turned around their organization by building a great offensive line.

The rams "went all in" and won the Owl. They traded the future to the Lions......

[Joemailman]

When did Joe Barry get the 49ers DC job?

[bobblehead]

When did Joe Barry get the 49ers DC job?

They brought him in as a consultant right after we fired him. He might actually be calling the plays.

[pittstang5]

Why couldn't the 49ers play this shitty last week

[MadtownPacker]

Lions didn’t give Sf the ball back before the half. Hitting on all the things Packers missed.

[MadtownPacker]

Why couldn't the 49ers play this shitty last week
Maybe SF isn’t that great.

[RashanGary]

Maybe SF isn’t that great.

They’re really not. They have these 220-250lb beasts… Kittle, Warner, Debo, Aiyuk, the corner….

Trent Williams is their only elite trench player. Bosa is so overrated. Lions so much quicker, faster, stronger, meaner in the trenches. 49ers are not a physical trench team and you can’t rely on athletes when you run into a true bully.

[Joemailman]

Maybe SF isn’t that great.

They've got a lot of skilled players, but they're not as physical as they were 3 years ago when they destroyed the Packers in the NFCCG. Lions are doing to them what they did to the Packers. Rushing yards are 148-38.

[MadtownPacker]

Yeah the window is getting smaller for sure. I look forward to the next time Packers get ‘em.

[RashanGary]

The 49ers are not built for this.

I’d love to root for this lions team. They’re so mean and chippy. And it’s not like us where it’s just Quay. They have like 5 ass holes.

[RashanGary]

Lions dirtiest team in the NFL right now. I love it against the 49ers.

[RashanGary]

I’d just tell my skill guys to be careful over the middle of the field. Warner is the best LB of the last 10 years and you don’t want that guy forcing a fumble right now.

[Bretsky]

Why couldn't the 49ers play this shitty last week

They kinda did

We just dropped one pick 6, another INT, and didn't convert red zone opporunities while Detroit has

[RashanGary]

Lions aren’t even getting lucky on their shots. This is a big boy ass whooping their putting on the 9ers.

[RashanGary]

They are what we thought they were and WE LET THEM OFF THE HOOK!!!

[RashanGary]

We’re just a little too young. We were the better team in the trenches, but just too inexperienced to dial it in when it mattered most.

[MadtownPacker]

Some lucky shit there.

[RashanGary]

49ers haven’t had any bad bounces. They’re hanging in with their veteran steadiness. But this is football, not chess. The Lions need to amp up the physicality.

[SudsMcBucky]

Fucking Campbell not kickboxing the FG was stupod.

[Joemailman]

49ers still gonna have to stop the run to win this game. Not sure if they can do it.

[Joemailman]

That could change things.

[MadtownPacker]

Fucking Campbell not kickboxing the FG was stupod.
100%!! Reminds me of Packers going for it on the Love shove and walking away with nothing.

[woodbuck27]

Maybe SF isn’t that great. The game isn't over.

A 17 Point lead for the Lions gone in 8 Minutes.

The NFC Championship Game now tied at 24.

Come on Lions.

[ThunderDan]

Fucking Campbell not kickboxing the FG was stupod.

I hate the “new” metrics on when to go for it on 4th down.

You fucking take points when you can get them. Det let SF right back into the game.

[Joemailman]

Reynolds didn't wrap up the ball.

[MadtownPacker]

I hate the “new” metrics on when to go for it on 4th down.

You fucking take points when you can get them. Det let SF right back into the game.
On the road in the playoffs up two TDs I would have thought it was obvious to take the points.

[ThunderDan]

On the road in the playoffs up two TDs I would have thought it was obvious to take the points.

I know. Get up 3 scores.

[RashanGary]

Jamison Williams at 80% throttle is faster than the 49ers secondary.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The game isn't over.

A 17 Point lead for the Lions gone in 8 Minutes.

The NFC Championship Game now tied at 24.

Come on Lions.

S’up, Woodbuck.

I have $20 on the Pussies, moneyline.

Packers should be playing today. Just tuned in, and it hurts like fuck watching this shit.

[Joemailman]

Goff not throwing with same accuracy as before.

[ThunderDan]

Oh my god. Kick the fucking FG and tie the game up. This is just like the Thanksgiving Day game.

[RashanGary]

Goff is a really good pocket passer, but anything other than clean looks and he just can’t do it.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Goff looks like a white man’s version of Love.

[Joemailman]

Goff is a really good pocket passer, but anything other than clean looks and he just can’t do it.

He's good. Alex Smith good.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Oh my god. Kick the fucking FG and tie the game up. This is just like the Thanksgiving Day game.

Fuck that chickenshit crap. I’d go for it, too.

[RashanGary]

Ok, here’s the game. Last stand.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Great White Hope is a playa.

[Bretsky]

Oh my god. Kick the fucking FG and tie the game up. This is just like the Thanksgiving Day game.

YUP

He passed up 2 field goals and now he's going to get lit up for the loss

[RashanGary]

49ers so pesky. It’s similar to the Brady offenses where they just keep doing simple stuff over and over and over. And eventually their consistency just wears you down and swallows you up.

Purdy is kind of Brady-like. It’s annoying.

[ThunderDan]

And that’s how advanced metrics costs you a spot in the Super Bowl.

[ThunderDan]

Fuck that chickenshit crap. I’d go for it, too.

And you would be watching SF in the Superb Owl instead of playing in it, you giant not chickenshit crap idiot.

[ThunderDan]

Wow, Det is a fucking mess. How do you run there? You can’t be tackled inbounds.

Total mismanagement of the game in the 2nd half.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

And you would be watching SF in the Superb Owl instead of playing in it, you giant not chickenshit crap idiot.

Ask LaFleur how kicking fgs helped him last week. Enjoy watching the Fucking Frog coach the Pro Bowl next week.

[ThunderDan]

Det should be up by 3. Instead they are going home for the season.

[ThunderDan]

Ask LaFleur how kicking fgs helped him last week. Enjoy watching the Fucking Frog coach the Pro Bowl next week.

If we kicked the FG in the 1st half on 4th down and our kicker doesn’t miss a 40 yard FG, we would have been playing at Det this weekend.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Wow, Det is a fucking mess. How do you run there? You can’t be tackled inbounds.

Total mismanagement of the game in the 2nd half.

Agreed with you for once.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If we kicked the FG in the 1st half on 4th down and our kicker doesn’t miss a 40 yard FG, we would have been playing at Det this weekend.

The Packer kicker is a proven choker. Frog shoulda gone for it every time.

[RashanGary]

I hate to say it, but I tip my hat to Shannahan. He watched Brady win Super Bowl after Super Bowl just consistently chewing you up with high percentage simple things and he’s created a whole offense that does exactly that. And Purdy has no problem running that kind of offense either.

It’s just the old Tom Brady death by a million paper cuts but on the west coast this time.

[Teamcheez1]

Campbell not smart enough to win the game. Never will be.
Brock Purdue is the second coming of Jimmy G. Good enough game manager to get you there, and then Mahomes will send the 49ers home with another 2nd place trophy.

[texaspackerbacker]

I didn't watch either game, and I hardly even followed the play by play. I'm glad to see Detroit lose. I don't like their coach or Goff. As for the Niners, if my team can't win, the next best thing, I guess, is for the team that beats them to go all the way. I won't be watching in two weeks, same as I didn't watch today.

[ThunderDan]

I feel bad for Det. They had this game almost locked up and completely choked it away. Almost like the Packers out playing SF last weekend and also losing.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I didn't watch either game, and I hardly even followed the play by play. I'm glad to see Detroit lose. I don't like their coach or Goff. As for the Niners, if my team can't win, the next best thing, I guess, is for the team that beats them to go all the way. I won't be watching in two weeks, same as I didn't watch today.

You ain’t dig Goff? Right now, the closest comparison to the beloved Love has gotta be Goff. Both are tall and slim. Both possess good arm strength with average overall athletic kung fu. Both can be inaccurate a times. Both ain’t dominators in the clutch.

Campbell, now I can agree. I like my coach to be full of sophistication - not redneck. Love the dude’s grit, though.

[RashanGary]

9ers early 1.5 point favorites. After 20 years of watching Brady inexplicably win with that death by a million paper cuts offense, I can’t help but think the 9ers are the favorites with that style.

All the money is going to be on the Chiefs. Swifties will be placing their first sports bets in droves.

[smuggler]

This happened a few years ago. Bucs were sluggish in the NFC playoffs and then wrecked the Chiefs shit in the Owl.

I see it happening the same way. I do not see the 49ers having a slow start against KC. They'll win easily.

[Joemailman]

You ain’t dig Goff? Right now, the closest comparison to the beloved Love has gotta be Goff. Both are tall and slim. Both possess good arm strength with average overall athletic kung fu. Both can be inaccurate a times. Both ain’t dominators in the clutch.

Campbell, now I can agree. I like my coach to be full of sophistication - not redneck. Love the dude’s grit, though.

Difference is Goff has been a starter for 8 years. Love 1. Goff is as good as he'll ever be. Love just getting started.

[call_me_ishmael]

I would take the Chiefs and make some cashola. They have the better QB and otherwise they're similar teams. Why would anyone think the Niners are going to get away with some luck and youthful mistakes against a veteran team that's been to the super bowl countless times? They Niners were let off the hook twice. The Chiefs will win.

[texaspackerbacker]

You ain’t dig Goff? Right now, the closest comparison to the beloved Love has gotta be Goff. Both are tall and slim. Both possess good arm strength with average overall athletic kung fu. Both can be inaccurate a times. Both ain’t dominators in the clutch.

Campbell, now I can agree. I like my coach to be full of sophistication - not redneck. Love the dude’s grit, though.

I think we're on the same page about Campbell although I'd word it different hahahaha. I like coaches to be cerebral. I felt that way long before LaFleur came along. I don't like those hyper rah rah oftentimes brainless types.

As for Goff, I don't consider him to even be on the same planet as Love. He's a choker and an interception waiting to happen, immobile too, I think. To me, the closest to the "beloved Love" is the much maligned Fields (other than Mahomes, of course).

[Joemailman]

Andrew Brandt
@AndrewBrandt

I am a fan of Dan Campbell, and players and coaches talk about him in ways far beyond the usual cliches. And I am a big believer in analytics.
But it seems like some decisions he makes are less about analytics and more about, well, "Let's F***ing Go!"
Emotions are tricky.

[Fritz]

And I think that’s okay. Campbell had a point - you make that late FG and you tied it up, so it’s like you’re hanging on. You get that first down and your players feel like they’re taking back control of the game. And that’s important.

Remember too the Detroit kicker is not that great.

[SudsMcBucky]

I would take the Chiefs and make some cashola. They have the better QB and otherwise they're similar teams. Why would anyone think the Niners are going to get away with some luck and youthful mistakes against a veteran team that's been to the super bowl countless times? They Niners were let off the hook twice. The Chiefs will win.

Yeah, ain't no way I'd pick Purdy over Mahomes.

[BrokenArrow]

I feel bad for Det. They had this game almost locked up and completely choked it away. Almost like the Packers out playing SF last weekend and also losing.

Difference is we fired the dumbass coach who let them methodically march down the field. Lions won't fire the dumbass coach who left 6 points on the field.

[ThunderDan]

The Packer kicker is a proven choker. Frog shoulda gone for it every time.

I don't think our kicker is a choker.

Our kicker is just bad. He misses kicks all the time. It doesn't matter if it is to win a game or an early extra point during the regular season.

[Fosco33]

I don't think our kicker is a choker.

Our kicker is just bad. He misses kicks all the time. It doesn't matter if it is to win a game or an early extra point during the regular season.

This is pretty dumb and inaccurate.

Mason didn’t crack 80% fgm til his 5th season (Carlson was 82%). And of his 16 seasons - Carlson’s 1st year would’ve been middle of the road for fgm.

Mason’s 6th season was a paltry 63% fgm. He also missed 4 PATs in 2020.

[ThunderDan]

Compared to the average NFL kicker, Carlson is not good. He was in the bottom quarter of the league.

11 NFL kickers were over 90% for the year.

[call_me_ishmael]

I personally believe Mason Crosby was pretty overrated and that this dude stunk. I wonder what the analytics say on 4th and a few vs a field goal. I think the better play might just be to go for it.

[MadtownPacker]

Didn't we all cry for Longwell when Crosby came in? :lol:

[Fosco33]

I think for a rookie outdoor kicker - he did alright (especially w/ young snapper/holder). No sense not giving him some competition but they were more than patient / Crosby so I don’t see how they wouldn’t be here w/ Anders