Who was your favorite pick in 2024?

[King Friday]

Time to back in the glory of Gute. Which pick this year got you hot and bothered?

[MadtownPacker]

Cooper. LB is a big need and also it helps all the cooper dejean lovers have a explanation for the tattoo they got before the draft.

[George Cumby]

Cooper. We've needed that aggressive tone-setter on D for fucking ever. He might be THE GUY.

[texaspackerbacker]

None really, but in approximate order and considering where they were picked: Cooper, Oladapo, Lloyd, King, Bullard, Hopper. I, of course, don't care for O Line, but we did need a couple, and the ones we got seem fairly decent.

[King Friday]

I’m going with Lloyd. I thought the second day was a master class from Gute. He has a lot of ammo, and he came out firing. Both second round picks were fabulous, both addressing need while also getting dynamic athletes. However, grabbing Lloyd was something I was not expecting, yet it was a tremendous pick. This kid is a mirror image of Jacobs. That will no doubt be very helpful in getting Lloyd up to speed in the NFL. It provides crucial depth at a position that proved how important it is for this offense last season. A strong run game is going to help Love and company become one of the most efficient offensive attacks in the league.

[Joemailman]

Bullard. I think he will complement McKinney very well. And will also see some reps at slot corner.

[bobblehead]

Jordan Morgan was one of my pre draft crushes so I have to go with him. My main beef overall was trying to draft the tallest midget each step. We tried to get the top guys at every weak position. That feels like reaching to me, however if Cooper lives up to his billing and Bullard ends up better than savage I'll be pretty happy.

[smuggler]

Monk just seems like the epitome of a Packers center and just a great football name. Honorable mention to Edge Cooper for being the right price and filling a huge need and Evan Williams for the booze connection.

[Fritz]

Olidapo because it’s fun to say.

[Joemailman]

Voted for Bullard but can't wait to hear Coooooooooooooooooooooooppp!! from crowd at Lambeau.

[Brandon494]

Both 2nd round picks

[Bretsky]

Olidapo because it’s fun to say.


you could argue he was our best "value" based pick.

[Jaire]

The last two OL.

I'm pretty stoked about this draft over all, and the addition of Xavier. Lloyd is going to be really good

[Scott Campbell]

The last two OL.

I can't get excited about drafting OL, or getting socks for Christmas.

[Vincenzo]

Edgerrin Cooper based only on his NFL Hall of Fame name.

[bobblehead]

Monk is my honorable mention. Go figure in a monster OL draft the 2 picks I liked were OL. Monk will never play tackle in the NFL, but I bet he plays a lot of interior football for us.

Walker, Jenkins, Tom, Monk, Morgan... I can live with that.

[Jaire]

My favorite breakdown, as always. Wahle really likes Bullard. For those who haven't he's worth a listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To3IRCeoopQ

[MadScientist]

I'm going with Morgan. The Packers needed upgrades on the Oline, and a better Oline makes everything about the offense better. An unstoppable offense will make the defense better as well.

[RashanGary]

My favorite breakdown, as always. Wahle really likes Bullard. For those who haven't he's worth a listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To3IRCeoopQ

Good stuff. Morgan and Monk incredible upside but probably need a year at least to get technique down.

Cooper plays with his hair on fire and probably starts on day one because he’s better than what we have.

Bullard is a football player. Smart, detailed, fast, natural at it, physical, can do everything. With the huge paycheck to McKinney and now drafting this kid, I think the days of dumb athletes at safety are over.

[Fritz]

It would be really hard to focus if your hair was on fire.

And we don't want that for Olidapo, or how can we enjoy the ever-changing hair colors?

[Scott Campbell]

I voted for Cooper. The guys highlight film makes him look like the ultimate game wrecker.

Wahle is great. I'm surprised a team hasn't brought him in as a coach.

[MadtownPacker]

I voted for Cooper. The guys highlight film makes him look like the ultimate game wrecker.It will be nice to see offenses having to react to the Packs defense for once. Hoping this guy turns into something like Patrick Willis. Same size and speed and likes to blow shit up.

[smuggler]

I hope Hafley is the right guy. With how much we invested on D in the draft and signing McKinney, he will have no excuses. Hiccups are okay, but boy it's going to be a huge letdown if the defense doesn't at light slightly improve...

[Bretsky]

Olidapo because it’s fun to say.


If we were voting in draft round value he would be my pick

But I always cheer for a high end LB. Hoping our 2 Speedy ILB"s can turn out like San Fran's

[Bretsky]

Monk is my honorable mention. Go figure in a monster OL draft the 2 picks I liked were OL. Monk will never play tackle in the NFL, but I bet he plays a lot of interior football for us.

Walker, Jenkins, Tom, Monk, Morgan... I can live with that.



I think Monk is our starting C in his 2nd year; Myers isn't good enough to pay ching too. He's the C version of OG John Runyan

[Scott Campbell]

I think Monk is our starting C in his 2nd year; Myers isn't good enough to pay ching too. He's the C version of OG John Runyan

Even Corey Lindsley wasn't good enough for us to pay ching to.

The Giants paying Runyan $30M ($17M guaranteed) is them saying "we can't draft and develope O-linemen". Good for JRJ though. Seems like a good guy.

[bobblehead]

I think Monk is our starting C in his 2nd year; Myers isn't good enough to pay ching too. He's the C version of OG John Runyan

I tend to agree. Monk is a C first. This tells me either they don't plan to move Tom to C or Monk was just too much value to pass up on.

[Joemailman]

I tend to agree. Monk is a C first. This tells me either they don't plan to move Tom to C or Monk was just too much value to pass up on.

Packers traded up to draft Monk so they definitely have plans for him. He didn't just fall to them.

[Patler]

Even Corey Lindsley wasn't good enough for us to pay ching to.

He was once, 3 years, $25M on his second contract, which made him one of the highest paid centers at that time. When that expired the Packers went into the off season well over the cap and also had Aaron Jones as a free agent. They signed Jones and let Linsley look elsewhere for his 3rd contract.

[Bretsky]

I tend to agree. Monk is a C first. This tells me either they don't plan to move Tom to C or Monk was just too much value to pass up on.


The Tom to C talk was entertaining but still unlikely.

How do you think Tom would love moving to Center ? Least paid OL position I think

[Joemailman]

The Tom to C talk was entertaining but still unlikely.

How do you think Tom would love moving to Center ? Least paid OL position I think

I could see it happening next year if Myers is gone and Morgan and Walker look good. But to get Tom to stay past 2025, they would need to pay him more than the going rate for the top Centers.

[Sparkey]

Kalen King is my vote just because he should have been drafted in round 4.

Since GB will play a lot of 4-2-5, there is an opportunity for him....

[smuggler]

I think Tom to guard is a lot more likely.

Morgan/Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Walker ain't half bad.

[SudsMcBucky]

I think Tom to guard is a lot more likely.

Morgan/Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Walker ain't half bad.

That's how I've been seeing it too, assuming Morgan performs in camp.

[bobblehead]

I think Tom to guard is a lot more likely.

Morgan/Jenkins/Myers/Tom/Walker ain't half bad.

That was always my thought process. If you read my drivel you know I have always said he's a guard, but when the report came out they talked about viewing him as a HoF center so you have to consider it a possibility.

Its funny that everyone who thought Jenkins (who played a really good LT pre injury) should shut up and play guard regardless of salary disparity thinks Tom on the other hand will demand they play him where he wants.

I also think if Walker doesn't stay put at LT it will only be because he regresses. He finished last season with a strangle hold on the job, I don't care what "coach speak" is happening right now.

[bobblehead]

Most likely opening day OL will be

Walker, Jenkins, Myers, Morgan, Tom

That will be for various reasons. 2 years from now it could be the 4 of the same: Walker, Jenkins, Monk, Tom, Morgan

I think Morgan starts interior because while he has great feet, he doesn't always use them perfectly and he is a powerful run blocker who gets to the 2nd level. He also has some work with his hands that needs to improve before he stops NFL edge rushers. Both of those are easily within his ability to get right, but it takes time. I doubt he has ever had a great coach. But he has power and balance and that gets you starting at guard on day 1.

[smuggler]

Where have you observed Morgan being a powerful run blocker?

[King Friday]

I think Morgan is a bit of a project. I don’t see much of a chance of him starting at tackle in game 1. While you can see his athleticism on film, there also are a lot of poor tendencies that need to be coached up. Perhaps he starts at guard early, but I’m even doubtful of that. I think the Packers are fine letting him develop and mostly providing depth in year one. I can get behind Wahle’s opinion that Monk is probably more likely to get a start first because he will be playing the position of our weakest (and soon to be departed) interior lineman. Morgan may turn out to be better in time, but his learning curve will be steeper at tackle.

[Fritz]

Mike Wahle agrees with you, KingF, on Morgan.

I read an interesting tidbit on the new safeties - the team appears to think both Bullard and Williams can play either safety spot OR nickel, while they see "Walking Boot" Olidapo as more of a box safety-maybe-free-safety type of guy.

[bobblehead]

Where have you observed Morgan being a powerful run blocker?

Living here, I have multiple friends who are AZ college fans so I watched several of his games. I have seen him block with power and I have seen him shield guys off in the run game. And I've seen him get to the next level and terrorize LBs more than once. He is a really good run blocker.

[bobblehead]

I think Morgan is a bit of a project. I don’t see much of a chance of him starting at tackle in game 1. While you can see his athleticism on film, there also are a lot of poor tendencies that need to be coached up. Perhaps he starts at guard early, but I’m even doubtful of that. I think the Packers are fine letting him develop and mostly providing depth in year one. I can get behind Wahle’s opinion that Monk is probably more likely to get a start first because he will be playing the position of our weakest (and soon to be departed) interior lineman. Morgan may turn out to be better in time, but his learning curve will be steeper at tackle.

I don't think you give him enough credit. Every college player has things they can improve on. Morgan reaches too early against speed rushers and he got away with it in college. Teaching him the right technique and having him take 100 snaps against Gary probably fixes it in one camp. He could start at tackle on day one and not ruin a season, however there is no urgency to do that which is why I think he starts at RG. Its because we have 2 excellent tackles already and there is not need to rush it. Its not because he has the mountainous learning curve. Mims has a much higher learning curve and he went 18? I think it was.

[Patler]

I don't think you give him enough credit. Every college player has things they can improve on. Morgan reaches too early against speed rushers and he got away with it in college. Teaching him the right technique and having him take 100 snaps against Gary probably fixes it in one camp. He could start at tackle on day one and not ruin a season, however there is no urgency to do that which is why I think he starts at RG. Its because we have 2 excellent tackles already and there is not need to rush it. Its not because he has the mountainous learning curve. Mims has a much higher learning curve and he went 18? I think it was.

Exactly. Clifton, Tauscher and Bulaga all began their rookie seasons as backups, but were pushed into starting tackle roles only a few games in. Bakhtiari probably would have too, but for Bulaga's season-ending injury in training camp. Maybe they weren't completely ready, but they were certainly good enough to play with.

Hopefully, Morgan is of the same ilk if he is needed.

[sharpe1027]

It will be hard to break into the starting lineup as a rookie absent injury, and that's a good thing.

[Joemailman]

Best case scenario is Morgan beats out Walker and Walker becomes your swing Tackle.

[ThunderDan]

It will be hard to break into the starting lineup as a rookie absent injury, and that's a good thing.

Not sure about that on the O line. Runyan is gone and C needs to be improved. Any rookie OL that shines in camp has a pretty good shot in my mind.

[Patler]

Not sure about that on the O line. Runyan is gone and C needs to be improved. Any rookie OL that shines in camp has a pretty good shot in my mind.

But Myers is an established three-year starter, and Ryan is a returning vet with significant experience. Coaches know what to expect from them and take comfort in that. Each provides a known level of performance which coaches will have to feel is improved by the insertion of a rookie into the lineup. It is a reasonably high hurdle.

[Scott Campbell]

For some recent perspective Zach Tom as good as he is started 5 games in his rookie season, and only played in 9 total. It looks like Elgton Jenkins didn't start until the 3rd game of his rookie season.

[RashanGary]

But Myers is an established three-year starter, and Ryan is a returning vet with significant experience. Coaches know what to expect from them and take comfort in that. Each provides a known level of performance which coaches will have to feel is improved by the insertion of a rookie into the lineup. It is a reasonably high hurdle.

I listened to the steno presser. He said the guys who stepped into the leadership role after Bakh left were Elg and Meyers.

They like Meyers a lot more than fans do. I can see that in their decision making and hear it in their words.

[bobblehead]

I agree JH and in fairness he wasn't a tire fire last year. I was extremely jaded by his bad snaps in camp, but he didn't carry it into the season. He still has problems with a big man on his nose, but so do most centers.

[RashanGary]

I agree JH and in fairness he wasn't a tire fire last year. I was extremely jaded by his bad snaps in camp, but he didn't carry it into the season. He still has problems with a big man on his nose, but so do most centers.

We’ve been kind of spoiled as fans having upper tier centers who really haven’t been injured for 30 years. Packers fans are fairly realistic by my judgement, but this is one area where you start to see some kind of ridiculous delusion.

He’s probably an average player who’s an elite lockerroom presence. A lot of fan bases would be singing his praises where we’re pissed off that he’s not a top 5 guy.

[RashanGary]

It would be like having an elite running back for 30 years and then spending whole offseasons ranting about how Edgar Bennet or Dorsey Levens were complete garbage and just never being able to enjoy a moment as a fan because they’re our running back.

[QBME]

Definitely not an EI whatever guy, but had to vote to bring him in.
Whatever

[texaspackerbacker]

I listened to the steno presser. He said the guys who stepped into the leadership role after Bakh left were Elg and Meyers.

They like Meyers a lot more than fans do. I can see that in their decision making and hear it in their words.


Finally some good sense in here regarding Meyers.

[bobblehead]

We’ve been kind of spoiled as fans having upper tier centers who really haven’t been injured for 30 years. Packers fans are fairly realistic by my judgement, but this is one area where you start to see some kind of ridiculous delusion.

He’s probably an average player who’s an elite lockerroom presence. A lot of fan bases would be singing his praises where we’re pissed off that he’s not a top 5 guy.

Have you met this chap that goes by texaspackerbacker??

[Scott Campbell]

I listened to the steno presser. He said the guys who stepped into the leadership role after Bakh left were Elg and Meyers.

They like Meyers a lot more than fans do. I can see that in their decision making and hear it in their words.

I like Meyers every other play or so, because he'll look like an all pro. And then the next play he'll look like he belongs on somebody elses practice squad. Who knows - maybe he'll put it together this year.

[Fritz]

I think that the comfort of having vets who know the assignments will beat out the raw talent of any of the rookies. I'm expecting Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom to start the season. One of the rookies - Morgan, say - might be a better blocker overall than Rhyan or Walker, but if he whiffs three assignments a game, that can wreck everything. So I'm thinking that trotting out the five guys who have worked together and know the playbook will be how they'll at least begin the season.

[Scott Campbell]

I think that the comfort of having vets who know the assignments will beat out the raw talent of any of the rookies. I'm expecting Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom to start the season. One of the rookies - Morgan, say - might be a better blocker overall than Rhyan or Walker, but if he whiffs three assignments a game, that can wreck everything. So I'm thinking that trotting out the five guys who have worked together and know the playbook will be how they'll at least begin the season.

I think taking a W for drafting these 3 OL this year means depth for this year, and avoiding having to pay 2nd contract money to a marginal players in a future year because 1 or more of these guys develop into starters.

[bobblehead]

Fritz...and a lot of others. I have seen nothing to suggest that Rhyan belongs on an NFL roster to be honest. He lacks real power for a man of his build. He doesn't have very good hands. And his poor footwork has led to a ton of blown blocks. I honestly hope to god he isn't starting at RG when the season starts....I'm not even sure I want him on the roster.

[Scott Campbell]

Fritz...and a lot of others. I have seen nothing to suggest that Rhyan belongs on an NFL roster to be honest. He lacks real power for a man of his build. He doesn't have very good hands. And his poor footwork has led to a ton of blown blocks. I honestly hope to god he isn't starting at RG when the season starts....I'm not even sure I want him on the roster.

I can see why you say that based upon how he played, and how most people graded him. PFF gave him a 51.7 on the season. I'm not ready to quit on the guy yet, because he improved last year. He's now coming into his 3rd season, and I think he has to keep improving to keep his spot. I think his marginal play is one of the reasons Gute felt the need to draft 3 OL this year

As for having a spot on a NFL roster? PFF graded JRJ out at 54.7 last year, which helps explain why he couldn't wrest the full time job away from Ryhan. However his grade did not prevent the Giants from paying him $10M/year. I think that speaks volumes about the poor play of OL in the NFL these days, and why a guy like Ryhan might get more time to get his shit together.