Official Packers at Browns Preseason Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Game time 3:25 PM

Browns favored by 5.5

Over/Under 39.5

Moneyline: Packers +210, Browns -250

QB DeShaun Watson and RB Nick Chubb will not play for the Browns.

Zach Tom will not start for the Packers.

[pittstang5]

If anyone was a link to stream, please share. Thanks

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whats the over under on missed kicks by green bay kickers?

5?

i'm most excited to see the rookie LB's and safeties

[Joemailman]

whats the over under on missed kicks by green bay kickers?

5?

i'm most excited to see the rookie LB's and safeties

Cooper and Hopper are likely out with injuries. Safeties should be fun though.

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Cooper and Hopper are likely out with injuries. Safeties should be fun though.

well shit

[red]

how many snaps until watson comes up holding a body part/limping?

or is he "hurt" and sitting out the game too?

[ThunderDan]

We will soon find out.

[red]

i forgot about marshwn loyd

i'm hoping he's the human highlight real that we think he is

[Joemailman]

Jaire not playing due to personal matter. Other than that, everybody but injured guys playing. With Jaire and Valentine out, should see a lot of Kalen King.

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ok

thats 1 kickoff and i'm utterly confused

[red]

god damn that field looks horrible

is it a shitty fake field or a shity sod job

it just looks bad

[red]

well, that was quick

if wicks found blazing speed to go with all his other attributes, he's gonna be a beast

[ThunderDan]

Great medium ball by Love to hit Wicks in stride.

[Joemailman]

Wicks!

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this is interesting


https://youtu.be/DD-nOVPIyqw?si=D66xuAAOP_L93nao

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i didn't know jamis winston was still playing

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really played soft on 3rd down there

[ThunderDan]

Wyatt starting well.

[MadScientist]

A 5 man rush getting a quick sack. That's a nice change, even if it is only preseason.

[ThunderDan]

Wyatt with another good rush.

It would be great if he finally plays like we expected when he was drafted.

[Joemailman]

Wyatt kicking ass so far.

[Joemailman]

Wyatt with another good rush.

It would be great if he finally plays like we expected when he was drafted.

He was good last year at getting pressure. Just missed too many tackles.

[MadScientist]

With the short fields from the goofy kickoff rules, it doesn't take much to get into FG range. One of the kickers better step up.

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love and jacobs out

full second string looks to be in

[ThunderDan]

Thank god the throw from Clifford was garbage. That is a pick otherwise.

[red]

dillon doing a lot of backfield dancing again

i got no use for him

he can be the size of gilbert brown, if he doesn't use his size to his advantage then he's pointless

[ThunderDan]

Might as well try that in the preseason.

[Joemailman]

Run blocking by 2nd team not good there.

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d seems to be swarming to the ball nicely

[ThunderDan]

Van Ness playing well so far.

[red]

be nice if LVN can take a big step up and live up to his draft position

looks good so far this game

[ThunderDan]

be nice if LVN can take a big step up and live up to his draft position

looks good so far this game

If Wyatt and Van Ness step up, the D will take a giant step forward.

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please take jet sweep out of playbook

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If Wyatt and Van Ness step up, the D will take a giant step forward.

so far so good

who the hell is wilson?

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first drop ever for melton?

bad pass, behind him

[ThunderDan]

Melton with the drop.

[Joemailman]

Clifford not impressive so far.

[Joemailman]

Rochelle has a real chance to make the team.

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they need to make some adjustments to helmet rules

seen lots of helmets come of the last 2 or years

whats the point of wearing one if it just falls off every other play?

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Rochelle has a real chance to make the team.

nice breakup there

[ThunderDan]

Evan Williams flashing here and there.

[MadScientist]

Packers poor use of timeouts is in mid-season form.

[red]

we need to trade

we just have too much talent at the position right now

[ThunderDan]

Hate to say it because I like Dillon, but he could get cut. Wilson looks good and if the rookie is as good as they hope.

[ThunderDan]

Hard to tell with all of the backups in, but good running by the 2nd unit.

[Joemailman]

Wilson looked great on that drive. DuBose too.

[Joemailman]

Van Ness out there against 2nd team is a (young) man among boys.

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what a catch by dubose

can't cut him or hide him on PS

[ThunderDan]

That was the biggest waste of 2 plays ever.

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carlson tried his best to miss that one. just hooked it in

[ThunderDan]

carlson tried his best to miss that one. just hooked it in

I think I like that. Kind of like a golfer. Aim right with a hook.

[Bretsky]

Could have a Ticking Time Bomb with this much talent at WR from 1-4. Always note it's a good problem to have, but it can be a problem. Tauscher noted how Jennings and Driver were two to get really crabby if they didn't get their ball share but they did a great job keeping it behind closed doors.

NOTHER QUESTION. I have YouTube TV> Just watched the Olympic BB team beat France.

WHERE the F'CK DO I FIND THIS GAME ON YOUTUBE TV ? Anybody else have it ?

[ThunderDan]

Could have a Ticking Time Bomb with this much talent at WR from 1-4. Always note it's a good problem to have, but it can be a problem. Tauscher noted how Jennings and Driver were two to get really crabby if they didn't get their ball share but they did a great job keeping it behind closed doors.

NOTHER QUESTION. I have YouTube TV> Just watched the Olympic BB team beat France.

WHERE the F'CK DO I FIND THIS GAME ON YOUTUBE TV ? Anybody else have it ?
ABC 27 I’m Madison viewing area.

[Oscar]

game pass for me.

[red]

Could have a Ticking Time Bomb with this much talent at WR from 1-4. Always note it's a good problem to have, but it can be a problem. Tauscher noted how Jennings and Driver were two to get really crabby if they didn't get their ball share but they did a great job keeping it behind closed doors.

NOTHER QUESTION. I have YouTube TV> Just watched the Olympic BB team beat France.

WHERE the F'CK DO I FIND THIS GAME ON YOUTUBE TV ? Anybody else have it ?

its on the fox channel in the UP

[Bretsky]

Per Wilde a couple notes from Camp

On their depth chart they still list Wicks as the #4

Wyatt loves this defense and in interviews he's excited as he's able to penetrate and shoot gaps way more this year

Williams has looked as good or better than Bullock at S

Ryan pissed the coachign staff off last practice with a stupid penalty so Monk played a ton of time with the starting offense

All of the WR's have looked very good. Alexander called Doubbs the 2nd best route runner in the NFL behind Adams (Jaire is Jaire)

But Jordan often look for Romeon in key situations

[Joemailman]

It's on ABC in Wausau.

[pittstang5]

Could have a Ticking Time Bomb with this much talent at WR from 1-4. Always note it's a good problem to have, but it can be a problem. Tauscher noted how Jennings and Driver were two to get really crabby if they didn't get their ball share but they did a great job keeping it behind closed doors.

NOTHER QUESTION. I have YouTube TV> Just watched the Olympic BB team beat France.

WHERE the F'CK DO I FIND THIS GAME ON YOUTUBE TV ? Anybody else have it ?

I've been searching for a stream for the past 30-mins or so and can't find anything.

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck, wish I was watching. Carlson hasn’t missed anything? Is so cut him right there on the spot.

[ThunderDan]

Evans Williams knocks the ball out for a fumble. I don’t care what Kuhn thinks, it wasn’t Thompson who jarred it loose.

[MadtownPacker]

game pass for me.
Just showing up to brag fucker!!:smack:

[Bretsky]

F'king youtube TV

It better not be an adventure to find games again this year

[MadtownPacker]

Dude I’m not fucking around and just getting Sunday ticket. Don’t be a cheapskate, you stock owner.

[Oscar]

Yup!!

[MadtownPacker]

Someone do a brute force attack on Oscar so we can get that login!

Nice that Love just threw a TD and said I’m out.

[Joemailman]

Emanuel Wilson has good feet for a big back.

[Joemailman]

We're in the "who's he?" Phase of the game.

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Someone do a brute force attack on Oscar so we can get that login!

Nice that Love just threw a TD and said I’m out.

3 plays more then rodgers ever played in the pre season

[texaspackerbacker]

The Packer game is on NFL TV at 6am tomorrow. If you've got YouTube TV, DVR it, sleep in, and watch it without commercials.

[pittstang5]

Saw Marshawn Lloyd left game with a hamstring injury.

SERIOUSLY!!!! Another Hamstring injury to a Packer Player!! I think the betting sites need to add a bet for Packer games with odds of a player leaving games with Hamstring injuries.

[Joemailman]

Saw Marshawn Lloyd left game with a hamstring injury.

SERIOUSLY!!!! Another Hamstring injury to a Packer Player!! I think the betting sites need to add a bet for Packer games with odds of a player leaving games with Hamstring injuries.



Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein

#Packers RB MarShawn Lloyd said he's been pushing through a hamstring issue in camp and felt it pull while bouncing a run outside. "I've had hamstrings before, so I'll just rehab and get back as fast as I can," he said. Said he can walk on it OK, so he's hoping it's not bad..

[Fritz]

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Maybe instead of harping on Christian Watson, we should be on this kid. Let’s see - a hip injury, then one play and a hammy pull, plus he’s picked up a case of fumble-itis along the way.

[Bretsky]

The Packer game is on NFL TV at 6am tomorrow. If you've got YouTube TV, DVR it, sleep in, and watch it without commercials.

THANK YOU TEX ! i am going to do that

[Teamcheez1]

Note: I haven’t see the live game.

Seems like Wilson makes the 53 and Lloyd starts on IR.

[Joemailman]

Winners: DuBose, Van Ness, Evan Williams, Emanuel Wilson, Love, Wicks

Losers: Carlson, Melton, Lloyd

2nd team offensive line was opening some nice holes for Wilson and Howard, but I'd have to go back and see who on the OL excelled individually.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I know Dillon didn’t get great blocking, but both Wilson and Lloyd show the ability to bounce a run outside when things get bottled up inside. Dillon doesn’t have the vision or physical ability to do that. Those other guys are big backs too, so is Jacobs. They have good feet for bigger backs.

[Fritz]

Winners: DuBose, Van Ness, Evan Williams, Emanuel Wilson, Love, Wicks

Losers: Carlson, Melton, Lloyd

2nd team offensive line was opening some nice holes for Wilson and Howard, but I'd have to go back and see who on the OL excelled individually.

How is Carlson on the losers list? I thought I read that he made a field goal and an extra point. Did he miss a kick, or did his kickoffs suck?

[RashanGary]

I know Dillon didn’t get great blocking, but both Wilson and Lloyd show the ability to bounce a run outside when things get bottled up inside. Dillon doesn’t have the vision or physical ability to do that. Those other guys are big backs too, so is Jacobs. They have good feet for bigger backs.

I’m in the great minority here, but I thought Dillon was moving a noticeable tic quicker than I’ve ever seen him move. I expect him to be much more productive. The other two might be better in the long run, but I think Dillon gets a chance while Lloyd is on IR.

[jklowan]

NFL game pass on sale fo 50bucks, just opted in https://nfllivestreamhd.com/?msclkid=5afa2db570c01adacc634b0dcbb9668d

[Joemailman]

How is Carlson on the losers list? I thought I read that he made a field goal and an extra point. Did he miss a kick, or did his kickoffs suck?

I thought all his kicks were shaky. He made them, but you shouldn't have to hold your breath as an XP or short FG barely makes it inside the upright.

[Fritz]

I thought all his kicks were shaky. He made them, but you shouldn't have to hold your breath as an XP or short FG barely makes it inside the upright.

So he made the little bunny shots but gave us all a heart attack while doing it?

Bretsky is nicknaming him "Dirty Anders," but I'm thinking with the guy's last name and how lukewarm his successes are, his nickname should maybe be "Warm Carlsen."

[RashanGary]

Nixon is frustrating on defense. He plays his rules and leverage right seemingly every time, but never makes any type of play on the ball.

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUtAhekWIAAeGuW?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUtAhekWkAA7DMQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[MadtownPacker]

NFL game pass on sale fo 50bucks, just opted in https://nfllivestreamhd.com/?msclkid=5afa2db570c01adacc634b0dcbb9668d
What is this? It’s not an official NFL product like Sunday Ticket is it?

[Joemailman]

Nice video of Wicks TD showing FS breaking on Reed route which leaves Wicks 1 on 1 with other safety. https://twitter.com/i/status/1822589560628392039

[Fritz]

Nice video of Wicks TD showing FS breaking on Reed route which leaves Wicks 1 on 1 with other safety. https://twitter.com/i/status/1822589560628392039

Also, and I don't think anyone has mentioned this, last year we were concerned about Love's accuracy on the deep throws. And rightfully so. But he appeared to drop that one into Wicks's lap.

[RashanGary]

Also, and I don't think anyone has mentioned this, last year we were concerned about Love's accuracy on the deep throws. And rightfully so. But he appeared to drop that one into Wicks's lap.

He’s been on point all camp. Very little talk of him missing deep like last year.

[Joemailman]

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2024/08/11/packers-pff-grades-best-worst-players-from-preseason-opener-vs-browns/

Top 5 offense

1. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 94.3
2. QB Jordan Love: 90.3
3. WR Julian Hicks: 84.9
4. WR Grant DuBose: 84.6
5. QB Michael Pratt: 84.5
5. TE Joel Wilson: 84.5

Wicks played one snap, catching his only target for 65 yards and a touchdown. Love attempted two passes, completing both for 63 yards, a touchdown pass and a perfect 158.3 passer rating. Hicks had a spinning 23-yard catch and also a 14-yard run across 16 snaps. DuBose caught five of six targets, produced four receiving first downs and averaged almost 3.5 yards per route run. Pratt completed five of his seven passes, and one of the misses was a drop. Wilson earned an excellent run blocking grade and caught all three of his targets for 30 yards.

Top 5 defense
1. CB Robert Rochell: 80.5
2. S Evan Williams: 79.2
3. LB Christian Young: 78.2
4. DL Colby Wooden: 77.1
5. S Zayne Anderson: 76.9

Rochell allowed just one catch for five yards on three targets and was credited with two pass breakups, including one on fourth down. Williams produced six tackles, including two tackles considered to be “stops,” and a forced fumble. Young didn’t have a tackle but earned a strong grade in coverage. Wooden produced a sack, two total pressures and two stops against the run. Anderson had two stops, including a tackle after a one-yard completion.

Bottom 5 offense

1. WR Bo Melton: 42.0
2. RB A.J. Dillon: 47.2
3. TE Ben Sims: 49.3
4. OL Royce Newman: 50.0
5. OT Kadeem Telfort: 50.1

Melton was credited with three drops on four targets, finishing with just one catch for 12 yards on 22 routes run. Dillon gained just two yards on four carries but did produced seven yards after first contact, showcasing the quality of the blocking in front of him. Sims didn’t have a catch on 12 routes run and graded out poorly blocking in the run game. Newman was excellent in pass protection but one of the team’s worst run blockers. Telfort allowed a pressure and was the lowest graded run blocker.

Bottom 5 defense

1. CB LJ Davis: 29.8
2. DL Spencer Waege: 31.3
3. DE Brenton Cox Jr.: 43.0
4. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 47.0
5. DE Kenneth Odumegwu: 50.4

Davis gave up a 17-yard catch and committed the defense’s only penalty. Waege was credited with a short sack, but he also earned the defense’s worst run defense grade. Cox had three pressures but also missed two tackles. Enagbare had three pressures but earned average grades against the run. Odumegwu had one pressure on five pass-rush snaps but gave up contain on a fourth-down conversion.


Special teams
Both kickers were perfect on field goals and extra points. Anthony Johnson Jr. led the special teams in tackles (two) and special teams grade (82.8). Gemon Green and Robert Rochell both had a solo tackle and a grade over 75.0. Receiver Malik Heath missed a tackle. Ben Sims led the team with 15 special teams snaps.

Quarterback play

Jordan Love: 90.3
Michael Pratt: 84.5
Sean Clifford: 76.5

Both Love and Pratt had a big-time throw, and none of the three quarterbacks had a turnover-worthy play. All three quarterbacks had a passing grade above 75.0.

Stat to know

Lukas Van Ness produced four pressures, a sack, three hurries and two run stops. He got dinged for one missed tackle, but his overall grade — 76.4 — reflected a strong performance in the preseason opener for the 2023 first-round pick.

[texaspackerbacker]

The downside of watching the replay on NFL Network was having to suffer through the shit of the Cleveland broadcasters, their inane interviews, etc. with very little said about the Packers, but it was better than not seeing the game at all.

In addition to Love, obviously but briefly, I thought both other QBs looked sharp and more than adequate as back ups.

We've got a bunch of good RBs. I'm about ready to be done with A.J. Dillon, though. Probably good O Line blocking helped make the RBs look so good. Several I didn't like, though, were Telfort, Dillard, and Newman.

We have a super bunch of WRs beyond the top four. I still think Melton is in 5th place despite not having a good game. I strongly hope we keep six, maybe even seven, and we'd still be losing 2 or 3 probable NFL quality WRs.

Who is this Joe Wilson, TE? Probably long gone by the start of the season, but he looked smooth out there, and I thought I saw him throw a block or two also.

On D, a big hell yeah on Slaton. We also need to getting Brooks and Wooden plenty of playing time. Eric Wilson seemed like he was all over the field. Engabarre looked good as more than just a pass rusher. McDuffie didn't look very good to me. Halfley seems to be making a lot of 3-4 players do good in his 4-3. Evan Williams and Rochell looked good as DBs. That Davis kid will probably be long gone, but I thought he got a raw deal on that bogus roughing call. So few D penalties would seem to indicate good coaching and discipline.

[Sparkey]

I thought Clifford looked poor. Throws behind receivers, forced throws into tight coverage. If Pratt doesn't make any stupid throws in the next 2 games, Clifford is all but gone

[MadScientist]

I thought Clifford looked poor. Throws behind receivers, forced throws into tight coverage. If Pratt doesn't make any stupid throws in the next 2 games, Clifford is all but gone

A QB throwing high and behind looks a lot like a receiver making his cut a couple of yards early. I'm not making excuses for Clifford or saying he looked good, but not every bad throw is on the QB, especially in preseason. Only the Packers know for sure.

[CaptainKickass]

Bretsky is nicknaming him "Dirty Anders," but I'm thinking with the guy's last name and how lukewarm his successes are, his nickname should maybe be "Warm Carlsen."

I've extrapolated his nickname though the use of syllable mismanagement, inversion and jumble-aya.

Anders Carlson?

No

Carl Anderson!

:jig:

[Fritz]

I've extrapolated his nickname though the use of syllable mismanagement, inversion and jumble-aya.

Anders Carlson?

No

Carl Anderson!

:jig:

Cool and all, but I still like "Warm Carlsen" better. Plus, if he's having a bad day, we can call him "Cold Carlsen," and if he hits a few in a row, we can call him "Hot Carlsen."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Warm%20Carl

[CaptainKickass]

we can call him "Cold Carlsen," and if he hits a few in a row, we can call him "Hot Carlsen."[/URL]


The NeoRats Logic is sound. And Fritz is unmatched in chuckle-linguistics. We would be wise to accept his conclusion.

[Sparkey]

Cool and all, but I still like "Warm Carlsen" better. Plus, if he's having a bad day, we can call him "Cold Carlsen," and if he hits a few in a row, we can call him "Hot Carlsen."

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Warm%20Carl

So every made field goal is now a "Hot Carl"?

[Fritz]

Yes!

How much fun is THAT??

[Sparkey]

Haha, seriously that is funny. I like it!

[King Friday]

I’m curious how Wicks doesn’t score a 100 grade if he only played one snap and scored a 65 yard TD. Did he fart at the LOS? Did he jog too slowly onto the field? Was the defense too mediocre? Or is this like the QB rating and arbitrarily maxes at 94.3?

[RashanGary]

I’m curious how Wicks doesn’t score a 100 grade if he only played one snap and scored a 65 yard TD. Did he fart at the LOS? Did he jog too slowly onto the field? Was the defense too mediocre? Or is this like the QB rating and arbitrarily maxes at 94.3?

Rodgers had a 95.1 for a full season. I don’t know how Wicks one perfect play can’t be better than a season of Rodgers making many mistakes.