Give me your 53

[bobblehead]

Seriously? I can't believe nobody has started a 53-man roster thread. I'm on my phone again so I'm not going to try right now but give me your worst.

[Joemailman]

QB: (2) Love, Clifford
RB: (3) Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (6) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Newman, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (5) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper
CB: (5) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine
S: (6) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams, Anderson
ST: (3) Anderson, Whelan, Orzech

IR: Dillon (To Return)

Practice Squad: Kalen King, Robert Rochell, Jonathan Ford, Donovan Jennings, Alex Hale, Ralen Goforth, Kristian Welch, Miichael Pratt, Ellis Merriweather, Travis Glover, KaDeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta, Joel Wilson, Malik Heath, Julian Hicks, Keshawn Banks, Lecitus Smith

[bobblehead]

Joe, just to give an idea just how filled out I think this roster has been from the start I don't really disagree with anything except Newman is gone for Glover, Ford very well could beat out Wooden. I'm almost certain Welch is playing his way onto the roster somehow. Maybe Anderson falls victim.

I also think Clifford has played himself out of a job, but I'm not sure Pratt will be the backup. Tannehill was MiLF's QB in Tennessee so would it be a stretch to see him come in? He makes more sense than any vet, but he might be asking for too much money. Pratt makes PS sense a lot more than back up sense.

[Joemailman]

Tannehill didn't join Tennessee until 2019. Marcus Mariota was the QB when MLF was there.

[Fritz]

QB: (2) Love, Clifford
RB: (3) Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (6) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Newman, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (5) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper
CB: (5) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine
S: (6) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams, Anderson
ST: (3) Anderson, Whelan, Orzech

IR: Dillon (To Return)

Practice Squad: Kalen King, Robert Rochell, Jonathan Ford, Donovan Jennings, Alex Hale, Ralen Goforth, Kristian Welch, Miichael Pratt, Ellis Merriweather, Travis Glover, KaDeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta, Joel Wilson, Malik Heath, Julian Hicks, Keshawn Banks, Lecitus Smith

So either there IS no kicker on the 53 but Zayne Anderson makes the team and is listed as “ST” only, or there’s a kicker out there somewhere named “Anderson” that Joe is thinking will be the kicker, or autocorrect sucks. Which it does.

[Spaulding]

QB: (3) Love, Clifford, Pratt
RB: (3) Jacobs, Dillon, Lloyd, Wilson
WR: (6) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Morgan, waiver wire/trade
DT: (6) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden, Ford
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (5) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper
CB: (5) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, King
S: (5) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams
ST: (3) Carlson, Whelan, Orzech

[Joemailman]

So either there IS no kicker on the 53 but Zayne Anderson makes the team and is listed as “ST” only, or there’s a kicker out there somewhere named “Anderson” that Joe is thinking will be the kicker, or autocorrect sucks. Which it does.

Fixed!


QB: (2) Love, Clifford
RB: (3) Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (6) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Newman, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (5) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper
CB: (5) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine
S: (6) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams, Anderson
ST: (3) Carlson, Whelan, Orzech

IR: Dillon (To Return)

Practice Squad: Kalen King, Robert Rochell, Jonathan Ford, Donovan Jennings, Alex Hale, Ralen Goforth, Kristian Welch, Miichael Pratt, Ellis Merriweather, Travis Glover, KaDeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta, Joel Wilson, Malik Heath, Julian Hicks, Keshawn Banks, Lecitus Smith

[bobblehead]

Tannehill didn't join Tennessee until 2019. Marcus Mariota was the QB when MLF was there.

I stand corrected. However the larger point remains that it was the same offense for the most part and Tannehill knows the playbook well enough to catch up fast and be a good backup. But the other point of what he wants to be paid also remains.

[bobblehead]

So either there IS no kicker on the 53 but Zayne Anderson makes the team and is listed as “ST” only, or there’s a kicker out there somewhere named “Anderson” that Joe is thinking will be the kicker, or autocorrect sucks. Which it does.

Yea, pretty sure he meant "Anders" as in Carlson and it ended up Anderson.

[run pMc]

Tannehill didn't join Tennessee until 2019. Marcus Mariota was the QB when MLF was there.

Tannehill also wants a big bag of money and a chance to compete to start; for those reasons he's not a fit for GB. Love just got paid and he is the starter, full stop.
If they look elsewhere for a backup QB, it'll be dumpster diving after cut-downs. Someone like Heinecke or Zappe maybe.

[sharpe1027]

Too lazy to do a full lineup.
I think Newman is gone.
I think they only keep 3 RBs but Lloyd or Dillion goes on IR to return.
Carlson makes the team.
Pratt gets QB2.

[texaspackerbacker]

This seems somehow more clear cut than sometimes in the past, maybe because of the practice squad changes. I have very few differences from Joe's or for that matter, the other one posted. Unless the injury is worse than I have heard, I'd keep Howard over Merriweather. I thought Telfort looked pretty bad and Caleb Jones looked better as a PS OT. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they cut Newman. And I thnk Joseph stays on the PS ahead of Hale.

[MadScientist]

This seems somehow more clear cut than sometimes in the past, maybe because of the practice squad changes. I have very few differences from Joe's or for that matter, the other one posted. Unless the injury is worse than I have heard, I'd keep Howard over Merriweather. I thought Telfort looked pretty bad and Caleb Jones looked better as a PS OT. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they cut Newman. And I thnk Joseph stays on the PS ahead of Hale.
Except they just gave Hale the foreign player designation, so there is an extra PS squad position that can be used on him but not Joseph. Hale will stay put for now.

[texaspackerbacker]

Good move. Where is Hale from?

[Joemailman]

Good move. Where is Hale from?

Australia.

[texaspackerbacker]

Probably an uncharted desert isle off the Aussie coast hahahaha.

[bobblehead]

This seems somehow more clear cut than sometimes in the past, maybe because of the practice squad changes. I have very few differences from Joe's or for that matter, the other one posted. Unless the injury is worse than I have heard, I'd keep Howard over Merriweather. I thought Telfort looked pretty bad and Caleb Jones looked better as a PS OT. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they cut Newman. And I thnk Joseph stays on the PS ahead of Hale.

I think the reason its so clear is because of last years draft class absolutely balling out. Normally guys drafted 4-7 are fighting every year, but basically everyone from 2023 is killing it including DuBose. I can't ever recall drafting 8 guys who were virtual roster locks in their second year. Maybe its only 7, Wicks, Reed, all 3 TE (sims a FA), Van Ness, Brooks, Vallentine. Damn!! 8 Virtual locks, now throw in Dubose Wooden and Johnson as strong possibilities.

[Willard]

Yea, pretty sure he meant "Anders" as in Carlson and it ended up Anderson.

I think they can find a Carl Anderson somewhere who is more consistent than Anders Carlson!

[Joemailman]

Kristian Welch made a case today. But adding Jim would mean 6 LB's. Hard to see that. Maybe Cooper starts season on IR. Kalen King looked good today. He has a chance of beating out Ballentine or Zayne Anderson.

[smuggler]

You guys all have Grant DuBose over Heath. I know he has 'teams value, but Malik Heath is the better receiver.

Plus his middle name is Shazass, which will never get old. God bless the illiterate mothers of the world.

[Joemailman]

MLF was asked in his PC about the kicker situation. Part of his answer was "We'll see what happens just around the league" If Carlson is the kicker, he's hanging by a very thin frayed thread.

[bobblehead]

Couple amendments after finale. Yes, I copied Joes 53 and am just tweaking it. Joe did the heavy lifting.

QB: (2) Love, Pratt (still hoping for a vet signing)
RB: (3) Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd/Dillon (which one starts on IR? Anyones guess but one will)
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (6) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Telfort, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Ford (I think Ford's size wins out in the end)
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Mosby (Cox has never looked sudden or special to me)
LB: (6) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper, Welch (welch over Anderson at S)
CB: (5) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine
S: (5) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams
ST: (3) Anderson, Whelan, Orzech

I don't think we are going to be shocked at the end of this.

[Willard]

You guys all have Grant DuBose over Heath. I know he has 'teams value, but Malik Heath is the better receiver.

Plus his middle name is Shazass, which will never get old. God bless the illiterate mothers of the world.

Agreed. Heath > DuBose

[Fritz]

So Bobble, like Joe, you seem to think that either Zayne Anderson can kick or that there is some kicker out there named Anderson who will be the kicker in Green Bay. Or that even autocorrect doesn’t like Warm Carlson.

[texaspackerbacker]

I wasn't gonna do this, but it's a fun exercise.

QB: Love, Clifford
RB: Jacobs, Wilson, Lloyd
FB: Pearson
TE: Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
WR: Watson, Doubs, Wicks, Reed, Melton, Heath
OL: Meyers, Tom, Jenkins, R. Walker, Rhyan, Morgan, Dillard, Monk

DL: Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden, Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Engabare, Cox
LB: Q. Walker, McDuffie, Cooper, Hopper, E. Wilson, Welsh
Corner: Alexander, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine, Nixon, Rochel
Safety: McKinney, Bullard, Williams, Johnson, Anderson

ST: Whelan, Orzech, Joseph

PS: Pratt, McCrary, Merriweather or Howard, Dubose, Toure, L. Smith, Jones, Tenuta, Ford, Mosby, King, Green, Oladapo, J. Wilson, Hicks, Glover, Hale

[CaptainKickass]

OK.

If you insist.

Here, is MY53:


https://static.wixstatic.com/media/aa8e4f_d9067184b23144038441d451c678cdcd~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_272,h_259,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/aa8e4f_d9067184b23144038441d451c678cdcd~mv2.png


:razz:

[bobblehead]

So Bobble, like Joe, you seem to think that either Zayne Anderson can kick or that there is some kicker out there named Anderson who will be the kicker in Green Bay. Or that even autocorrect doesn’t like Warm Carlson.

Yea, like I said, I copied Joes roster since he had done most of the heavy lifting. I forgot the correction.

As for Heath over DuBose, you are judging just with what we saw in games. By all accounts DuBose had a monster camp and has been run blocking like a demon. Plus he was a draft pick. I think they go with him based on camp.

[Joemailman]

Yea, like I said, I copied Joes roster since he had done most of the heavy lifting. I forgot the correction.

As for Heath over DuBose, you are judging just with what we saw in games. By all accounts DuBose had a monster camp and has been run blocking like a demon. Plus he was a draft pick. I think they go with him based on camp.

Unless they try to calculate which one, if waived, would be more likely to be claimed by another team. In that case, they might go with keeping Heath. Reason being that Heath showed last year he can actually be productive in real games that really matter. DuBose has not had the opportunity to do that.

[Joemailman]

QB: (2) Love, Clifford
RB: (2) Jacobs, Wilson
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (7) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Newman, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (6) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper, Welch
CB: (6) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine, King
S: (5) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams
ST: (2) Whelan, Orzech

IR: Dillon, Lloyd (To Return)

Practice Squad: Robert Rochell, Jonathan Ford, Donovan Jennings, Alex Hale, Ralen Goforth, Zayne Anderson, Miichael Pratt, Ellis Merriweather, Travis Glover, KaDeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta, Joel Wilson, Julian Hicks, Aaron Mosby, Lecitus Smith, Tyler Davis, Caleb Jones

Not a misprint. I do not have a kicker on the initial 53. They will pick up somebody, or re-sign Carlson or Joseph.

Hope I haven't forgotten anything.

[Fritz]

QB: (2) Love, Clifford
RB: (2) Jacobs, Wilson
FB: (1) Pearson
WR: (7) Doubs, Watson, Reed, Wicks, Melton, Heath, DuBose
TE: (3) Musgrave, Kraft, Sims
OL: (9) Myers, Jenkins, Walker, Rhyan, Tom, Monk, Dillard, Newman, Morgan
DT: (5) Clark, Slaton, Wyatt, Brooks, Wooden
DE: (5) Gary, Smith, Van Ness, Enagbare, Cox
LB: (6) McDuffie, Walker, Wilson, Cooper, Hopper, Welch
CB: (6) Alexander, Nixon, Stokes, Valentine, Ballentine, King
S: (5) Bullard, McKinney, Oladapo, Johnson, Williams
ST: (2) Whelan, Orzech

IR: Dillon, Lloyd (To Return)

Practice Squad: Robert Rochell, Jonathan Ford, Donovan Jennings, Alex Hale, Ralen Goforth, Zayne Anderson, Miichael Pratt, Ellis Merriweather, Travis Glover, KaDeem Telfort, Luke Tenuta, Joel Wilson, Julian Hicks, Aaron Mosby, Lecitus Smith, Tyler Davis, Caleb Jones

Not a misprint. I do not have a kicker on the initial 53. They will pick up somebody, or re-sign Carlson or Joseph.

Hope I haven't forgotten anything.

I could definitely see this happening. I'm not sure at this point any other team would swoop in for either kicker, so you would probably be able to re-sign either one. Therefore you'd have one more open spot to keep someone at another position for a few days. And maybe it wouldn't hurt Warm Carlson to poop his pants a little when he's cut and out of the league for a few days or so. Fear, baby, fear!

[Joemailman]

Grant Bilse
@WiscoGrant

simply amazing that the Packers had an harder time replacing Mason Crosby than they did replacing Aaron Rodgers

[sharpe1027]

PFF and a few others thought Caleb Jones had a really good game against Baltimore. Too little, too late?

[smuggler]

As for Heath over DuBose, you are judging just with what we saw in games.

Not just preseason games this season. Heath has also played in actual NFL games before, and didn't look bad.

[Fritz]

Not just preseason games this season. Heath has also played in actual NFL games before, and didn't look bad.

This might be a case where Bretsky's "they drafted him so they won't want to cut him" might apply. I think Dubose was "only" a seventh, but I recall Harv or NewsBruin being really high on him. If only one of them knew how to kick . . .

[Bretsky]

This might be a case where Bretsky's "they drafted him so they won't want to cut him" might apply. I think Dubose was "only" a seventh, but I recall Harv or NewsBruin being really high on him. If only one of them knew how to kick . . .


SHOULD WE MAKE A LIST OF GUYS WHO APPLY TO THIS ? Not sure there are that many, but it would be fun to accumulate a list

[smuggler]

I don't think it really applies to guys in the 6th or 7th. They have to actually be roster-worthy at that point. It's quite possible DuBose is roster-worthy. If he's kept, it's not going to be because he was selected 5 spots before Heath.

[Fritz]

You know, it’s troubling to me that this supposedly contending team has a brand-new backup QB who won’t know the playbook for probably a month, no real strong sense of who they want as the backup swing tackle, and uncertainty as to who’s going to be doing the kicking.

[smuggler]

That's assuming they don't keep three.

[Joemailman]

You know, it’s troubling to me that this supposedly contending team has a brand-new backup QB who won’t know the playbook for probably a month, no real strong sense of who they want as the backup swing tackle, and uncertainty as to who’s going to be doing the kicking.

So their biggest concerns are backup QB, backup OT and kicker? A lot of teams would like to have the Packers problems.

[Teamcheez1]

We can sign QB Tim Boyle back to the squad.
They probably released several of the CB’s to pick Kevin King back up.

[CaptainKickass]

I'd have kept Caleb Jones over Andre Dillard. Everything else as far as roster cuts and initial 53 personnel as of today, I can live with.

[bobblehead]

I'd have kept Caleb Jones over Andre Dillard. Everything else as far as roster cuts and initial 53 personnel as of today, I can live with.

Dillard was actually lights out after Gary ate his lunch early. Dillard has immense natural talent and I have to wonder if they (Steno, Gutes, whoever) didn't see something fixable on tape that made them bring him in. I'm not saying he is suddenly top 20 NFL caliber LT, but he looked every bit the part of swing tackle in the games he played. Jones on the other hand had the skillset of being large. It wasn't going to improve much from here I think.

[CaptainKickass]

Dillard was actually lights out after Gary ate his lunch early. Dillard has immense natural talent and I have to wonder if they (Steno, Gutes, whoever) didn't see something fixable on tape that made them bring him in. I'm not saying he is suddenly top 20 NFL caliber LT, but he looked every bit the part of swing tackle in the games he played. Jones on the other hand had the skillset of being large. It wasn't going to improve much from here I think.


I don't trust Dillard based on his history of being a turnstile so hopefully you're correct about coaches fixing him. Caleb Jones had no history of such turnstile-ism.

I also always wondered - with the whole tackles become guards philosophy in Green Bay - why wasn't Caleb Jones given the opportunity to attempt playing guard? Yes, his main skill was being large but his secondary skill was being quick on his feet which is why he was at tackle. The man was nearly poached off the practice squad in year 1. Then the Packers elevated him to the active roster and kept him there as a backup tackle for like 3 years. You don't invest that kind of time without talents other than being large. If you think enough of the guy to prevent him from being poached and you think enough of him to be a backup tackle for a few years, then I feel like the Packers maybe missed an opportunity to give him at least a whirl at guard.

Other missed opportunities - even if "being large" is seen as his only skill - might include checking him in as a TE on obvious short yardage situations or other opportunities where a large nimble footed man could open holes in the ground game.

During preseason I never heard his name called and I only saw him at LT the entire time. If memory serves, this lack of mention historically indicates playing reasonably well for a tackle.

[Teamcheez1]

Jones was always listed as a project that was intriguing because of his size. The Packers obviously felt he was never going to develop into a serviceable player.

We’ll see if he gets another opportunity, but it’s somewhat telling that he hasn’t even landed on a practice squad yet.

[bobblehead]

1) Jones wasn't a turnstile because he never started 16 games at LT against other starters.

2) I think he is 6'9" so no way he can play guard. Love wouldn't be able to see past him.

[Patler]

Silverstein wrote a piece a week ago or so, about how Jones had disappeared this camp, clearly falling behind Dillard, Telfort and Glover. He had quotes from Jones expressing realization of his situation.


“The hamstring kind of threw me off,” Jones said. “I started a week later, and I felt I was a little behind the 8-ball, behind the curve. I’ve just been fighting to get myself back to the kind of flow where everything else has been.
“I’m not sure if it’s a case of too little, too late or what it is. But it’s definitely reshaped how I expected myself (to perform).”

He had two years and a third training camp to earn a legitimate spot on the depth chart. If anything, he may have regressed this year. Time to give someone else a chance.

[smuggler]

Didn't he go unclaimed on waivers? It's over for him.

[CaptainKickass]

Well I just can't keep up with the Jones's. Which should be much easier for me now because there are officially zero players named Jones on the Packers team.

[Fritz]

Well I just can't keep up with the Jones's. Which should be much easier for me now because there are officially zero players named Jones on the Packers team.

Are you . . . Jonesin’ for one?

[CaptainKickass]

Are you . . . Jonesin’ for one?

Nah.

But if I'm ever feeling blue about any of it - I'll just reach for one of these during the game. Maybe mix in some Captain Morgan and/or Vodka.



https://www.sodapoponline.com/cdn/shop/products/jonesberrylemonade_800x.JPG?v=1571276482


Then, because I'm a sucker for musical innuendo I'd kick back and listen to some sort of curated playlist containing such eloquent compositions such as:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iqAz0Jost0

Or


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsVjWd1mh4w

And of course who could forget this masterpiece:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlhWPVJNAOo

[RashanGary]

We got rid of the hippy QB, but we’re left with the hippy CB. Rather than undergo surgery two years ago Jaire turned to nature and the healing powers of listening to dolphins mate.

How long before Jaires clearly damaged shoulder acts up? 10 tackles? 20? What do you guys think?

[bobblehead]

I had to click on basketball Jones because apparently I hate myself

[CaptainKickass]

I had to click on basketball Jones because apparently I hate myself



I'll go one-on-one against the world, left-handed


Epic choice. So many favorite parts. When the cheerleaders kick in. When the coach kicks in. The reference to Ex-Lax.

If any PackerRat is feeling the harsh loss of any former Packer named Jones, repeated listening has been clinically shown to ease the pain. This is not medical advice and is not FDA approved. Side effects may include shortness of breath, uncontrollable laughter, rodenticide, spontaneous anal bleeding and growth of a third eye.

Ask your Doctor if Basketball Jones™ is right for you.