Packers vs. Texans Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 4-1.

Last meeting: October 25, 2020. Packers defeated the Texans 35-20 in Houston. Aaron Rodgers threw for 283 yards and 4 TD's. Davante Adams caught 13 passes for 196 yards and 2 TD's. Jamaal Williams had 114 total yards with 1 rushing TD. For the Texans, Deshaun Watson threw for 309 yards and 2 TD's. Randall Cobb caught 8 passes for 95 yards.

Texans come into the game 5-1, leading the AFC South. Offensively, the Texans rank 14th in points scored, 6th in yards gained. C.J. Stroud has completed 68.3% of his passes for 1577 yards with 10 TD's and 4 INT's. Nico Collins was the NFL's leading receiver through 5 games, but is out with an injury. Stefon Diggs has caught 37 passes for 392 yards and 3 TD's. Joe Mixon is their leading rusher despite missing 3 games. Back playing now, he has rushed for 286 yards, averaging 5.5 YPC. Their kicker, Ka'imi Fairbairn has made 13-15 FG's, including 8-9 from 50+.

Defensively, Texans are 15th in points allowed, but 3rd in yards allowed. Opposing QB's have thrown for just 979 yards, but have 12 TD passes and 5 INT's. Opponents have rushed 150 times for 683 yards and 4 TD's, averaging 4.6 YPC. Texans have sacked opposing QB's 19 times, led by Will Anderson with 5.5.

Packers favored by 2.5
Over/under: 47
Moneyline: Texans +126, Packers -149

[Fritz]

So since the bookies give a home team three points automatically, does that mean the Packers are actually a half-point underdog?

[Joemailman]

So since the bookies give a home team three points automatically, does that mean the Packers are actually a half-point underdog?

It means they really think Packers are 5.5 points better but they know Nards will miss a FG.

[Joemailman]

Packers kicking situation now a day by day thing according to MLF.

Packers coach Matt LaFleur would only say Monday that Hale could “potentially” be ready to kick if they want to give him a chance this week. It likely would be dependent on how Hale, a late addition to the roster in training camp, has kicked in practice. Asked if he’s considering a change at kicker, LaFleur said, “I wouldn’t say that right now, no.”

Where is the breaking point?

“We’ll see, again, we’ll take it day by day,” LaFleur said.

[Fritz]

I wonder how good Hale is and can be. Is it adjusting to the speed of the game and the rushers? Is it kicking a weird-shaped football? How strong is his leg? How accurate? Is he getting better?

IF Turd Narveson is the kicker this week, zI predict he’ll lose his job if he doesn’t make every single kick.

[Joemailman]

I wonder how good Hale is and can be. Is it adjusting to the speed of the game and the rushers? Is it kicking a weird-shaped football? How strong is his leg? How accurate? Is he getting better?

IF Turd Narveson is the kicker this week, zI predict he’ll lose his job if he doesn’t make every single kick.

Hale is from Australia, but he kicked for several years for Oklahoma St.

As a sixth-year senior in 2023, Hale went 36-of-38 on extra point attempts and 27-of-34 on field goal attempts, scoring a career-high 117 points on the season. The Pokes' star specialist also went 3-for-4 from beyond 50 yards during his final year in Stillwater.

The New South Wales, Australia, product received an 86.3 field goal kicking grade from Pro Football Focus last year. Hale earned Second Team All-Big 12 honors and was a Lou Groza Award semifinalist for his efforts in 2023.

[Fritz]

Clearly they thought or think he needed development? Or that they could stash him for free while they gave/give Narveson a shot?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

It means they really think Packers are 5.5 points better but they know Nards will miss a FG.

I typically bet money line nowadays. Needing X to score Y points is kinda stressful. Just win, baby!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Wrong thread.

[Fritz]

This is going to be a good game, if you like tight ones. I'm thinking this is the game where a last-minute field goal is necessary.

Turd Narveson, your future hangs in the balance here, bud. Do you want to be known as "Turd" or "Nards"? It's up to you now.

[Joemailman]

This is going to be a good game, if you like tight ones. I'm thinking this is the game where a last-minute field goal is necessary.

Turd Narveson, your future hangs in the balance here, bud. Do you want to be known as "Turd" or "Nards"? It's up to you now.

Nervous Narveson will have us all nervous.

[CaptainKickass]

Nervous Narveson will have us all nervous.

It's all just one name now. A mononym if you will, like Madonna or perhaps Prince but without the stardom.

Nervous + Narveson = "Nervouson"




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[bobblehead]

An AFC team in an NFC teams backyard needs to be a W unless said road team is a juggernaut. Houston is merely above average so this needs to be a win. It will be a good test for our defense though as this is a really balanced offense with a good young QB. I'd like to see the group of Halfwits hold them to 20 or less and create a turnover.

[run pMc]

I love a good portamanteau. Also, a good port.

[Fritz]

It's all just one name now. A mononym if you will, like Madonna or perhaps Prince but without the stardom.

Nervous + Narveson = "Nervouson"




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By golly that's it, Cap'n.

[run pMc]

One thing Nervouson has on Carlson is he's made all his XP. (That is not meant to be a jinx!) I don't think Carlson (or Joseph) would be faring any better. It's crazy to think they haven't solved their kicker problem yet.

At least he made the FG after his miss. He's got to be automatic from 45 in at a minimum.

Hale is a break glass in case of emergency type of thing I think. They've kept K's on the PS before (JJ Molson, Ramiz Ahmed, etc.).

[Joemailman]

Packers had K Brandon McManus in for a workout.

NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reported on Tuesday that the Green Bay Packers, who have struggled at the kicking position for several years now, brought in kicker Brandon McManus for a workout. McManus signed a one-year, $3.6 million contract with the Washington Commanders in March but was released by the team in June when he was sued over sexual assault allegations by flight attendants for an incident that was alleged to have occurred when he was a Jacksonville Jaguar in 2023.

The lawsuit was dismissed in September, as Judge Michael S. Sharrit claimed that the women, who wanted to use anonymity in the case, did not meet the state’s “exceptional case” standard. According to ESPN’s Michael DiRocco, the women were given a 10-day window to amend the lawsuit to identify their names, rather than remain anonymous, which lawyer Tony Buzbee claimed they would do. Three days later, that amendment was filed.

The NFL reportedly interviewed 30 people in their investigation of the allegations and two weeks ago decided there was not sufficient evidence to discipline the kicker. Buzbee claims that the league never talked to either of the women who are suing McManus. At the time, neither McManus nor his attorney, Brett Gallaway, released a statement.


The lawsuit alleges that McManus was inebriated on a team flight from London back to Jacksonville when he “grinded” up against the two alleged victims and attempted to kiss one of them. The Jaguars, who McManus was a member of at the time of the alleged incident, also didn’t make a statement when the league ruled they would not be disciplining McManus.

McManus has kicked 161 games in the NFL, mostly with the Denver Broncos, where he spent the 2014-2022 seasons. He’s made 253 of 311 (81 percent) career field goals. The Packers’ current kicker, Brayden Narveson, has hit 12 of 17 (71 percent) field goals as a rookie this season.

[run pMc]

Good news: McManus is more accurate than Nervouson from 40-49 range.
Bad news: he's being sued for being a creepy guy.

The market for a competent FG kicker must be bad when you can't find someone who isn't an alleged sexual predator.

[Freak Out]

It's about time they brought McManus in.

[Freak Out]

Good news: McManus is more accurate than Nervouson from 40-49 range.
Bad news: he's being sued for being a creepy guy.

The market for a competent FG kicker must be bad when you can't find someone who isn't an alleged sexual predator.

Innocent until proven guilty.

[Fritz]

Packers had K Brandon McManus in for a workout.

NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo reported on Tuesday that the Green Bay Packers, who have struggled at the kicking position for several years now, brought in kicker Brandon McManus for a workout. McManus signed a one-year, $3.6 million contract with the Washington Commanders in March but was released by the team in June when he was sued over sexual assault allegations by flight attendants for an incident that was alleged to have occurred when he was a Jacksonville Jaguar in 2023.

The lawsuit was dismissed in September, as Judge Michael S. Sharrit claimed that the women, who wanted to use anonymity in the case, did not meet the state’s “exceptional case” standard. According to ESPN’s Michael DiRocco, the women were given a 10-day window to amend the lawsuit to identify their names, rather than remain anonymous, which lawyer Tony Buzbee claimed they would do. Three days later, that amendment was filed.

The NFL reportedly interviewed 30 people in their investigation of the allegations and two weeks ago decided there was not sufficient evidence to discipline the kicker. Buzbee claims that the league never talked to either of the women who are suing McManus. At the time, neither McManus nor his attorney, Brett Gallaway, released a statement.


The lawsuit alleges that McManus was inebriated on a team flight from London back to Jacksonville when he “grinded” up against the two alleged victims and attempted to kiss one of them. The Jaguars, who McManus was a member of at the time of the alleged incident, also didn’t make a statement when the league ruled they would not be disciplining McManus.

McManus has kicked 161 games in the NFL, mostly with the Denver Broncos, where he spent the 2014-2022 seasons. He’s made 253 of 311 (81 percent) career field goals. The Packers’ current kicker, Brayden Narveson, has hit 12 of 17 (71 percent) field goals as a rookie this season.

More bad news: according to the suit, a part of his defense is that when he attempted to "grind up" against the two alleged victims, his aim was wide right both times, and his kisses landed on their ears and not their lips.

81%? Only ten percent better than Nervouson? Ugh. No thanks.

[Freak Out]

Ha ha ha! Well they signed him so we'll see how it goes.

[MadtownPacker]

This guy sounds like the 90s Packers so bring him on in!!

[Joemailman]

Breakdown of McManus by distance:

20-29: 66-70, 94.3%
30-39: 70-75, 93.3%
40-49: 72-84, 85.7%
50+: 45-82, 54.9%

His 54.9% from 50+ is below today's standards. His 85.7% from 40-49 isn't great, but would obviously be an upgrade over what Nervouson has done so far.

[MadtownPacker]

What about XPs? Missing those is fukin disheartening.

[Joemailman]

What about XPs? Missing those is fukin disheartening.

312-321. 97.2%

[Jorris]

McManus is 312 for 321, at 97.2% on XPs. I, for one, am vehemently against bringing drama into the lockerroom. This offense should be getting enough TDs and +2s to not need a kicker, me thinks.

[MadtownPacker]

Nice job dropping stats on your first post Jorris, welcome to PackerRats!

Yeah as you and Jose Cartero have so kindly shown, this is the kicker we need! With 97.2% this guy is on the same level as Heisenberg from Breaking Bad.

When XPs get missed you see LeFleur throwing a fit on the sideline while at the same exact moment millions of Packers backers do the same in their living room. That’s drama!!!

[Fritz]

Breakdown of McManus by distance:

20-29: 66-70, 94.3%
30-39: 70-75, 93.3%
40-49: 72-84, 85.7%
50+: 45-82, 54.9%

His 54.9% from 50+ is below today's standards. His 85.7% from 40-49 isn't great, but would obviously be an upgrade over what Nervouson has done so far.

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Guter, looking for a kicker.

And that's where he found this creep. Of course, we can forgive our athletes anything if they're really good (See Green, Ahman), but this guy is barely at the Mendoza Line for kickers.

[Joemailman]

CBS Single - Most of the midwest, but not Detroit area, west, including Alaska, and south will get Packers vs. Texans. Jim Nantz and Tony Romo with the call. Northwest Wisconsin and parts of Minnesota will get Detroit at Minnesota on Fox.

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[MadtownPacker]

Straight up comedy, fans talking about forgiveness when they have never even met the person. :lol:

Fritz - You gonna ask for forgiveness from Tex since you showed creeper behavior towards Ms Tex? :-D

[Sparkey]

Straight up comedy, fans talking about forgiveness when they have never even met the person. :lol:

Fritz - You gonna ask for forgiveness from Tex since you showed creeper behavior towards Ms Tex? :-D

bAZINGA!

[Fosco33]

This guy sounds like the 90s Packers so bring him on in!!

Like a hot tub party w/ Chewy…

[texaspackerbacker]

Straight up comedy, fans talking about forgiveness when they have never even met the person. :lol:

Fritz - You gonna ask for forgiveness from Tex since you showed creeper behavior towards Ms Tex? :-D

No need. I consider Fritz one of the good ones hahahaha.

[Patler]

Breakdown of McManus by distance:

20-29: 66-70, 94.3%
30-39: 70-75, 93.3%
40-49: 72-84, 85.7%
50+: 45-82, 54.9%

His 54.9% from 50+ is below today's standards. His 85.7% from 40-49 isn't great, but would obviously be an upgrade over what Nervouson has done so far.

I think 86% for his career at distances of 40-49 yards is fine. But if you look more closely at the breakdown, over his last 6 seasons he is 54/58 (93.1%) at that distance. He was less consistent early in his career.

[Joemailman]

Dominique Yates
@RealDYates

#Packers Wednesday practice:
No Elgton Jenkins, Devonte Wyatt or Colby Wooden.
Saw Wyatt (ankle) was moving around and exercising on the sidelines.

The remaining players are on the field, including new kicker Brandon McManus and Dontayvion Wicks (shoulder).

[Fritz]

Straight up comedy, fans talking about forgiveness when they have never even met the person. :lol:

Fritz - You gonna ask for forgiveness from Tex since you showed creeper behavior towards Ms Tex? :-D

Aww hell no. I am not one of the fans talking about forgiving this guy (unless he's, like, really good), so I'm not asking Tex for forgiveness. I'll save you a seat in hell, Mad.

[Joemailman]

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[MadtownPacker]

Like a hot tub party w/ Chewy…First thing I thought of and hey that shit won the Super Bowl so who are we to doubt.

[MadtownPacker]

No need. I consider Fritz one of the good ones hahahaha.You fukin kinky White guys…. :lol:

[MadtownPacker]

Aww hell no. I am not one of the fans talking about forgiving this guy (unless he's, like, really good), so I'm not asking Tex for forgiveness. I'll save you a seat in hell, Mad.
Haven’t earned my ticket yet and don’t believe in hell anyways. I believe you are just laying there in the dirt and get to feel the worms eat you if you are bad.

[bobblehead]

Nice job dropping stats on your first post Jorris, welcome to PackerRats!

Yeah as you and Jose Cartero have so kindly shown, this is the kicker we need! With 97.2% this guy is on the same level as Heisenberg from Breaking Bad.

When XPs get missed you see LeFleur throwing a fit on the sideline while at the same exact moment millions of Packers backers do the same in their living room. That’s drama!!!

While it might not seem like much, I assure you that last 2.8% is very important.

[Joemailman]

Not bad by Packers standards.

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[Joemailman]

Packers more healthy than their opponent.

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[sharpe1027]

Packers more healthy than their opponent.

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Depends on how you measure. Packers had 11 on the list. One more than the Texans.

[Joemailman]

Depends on how you measure. Packers had 11 on the list. One more than the Texans.

Packers have 1 guy out, 2 questionable. Texans have 5 guys out.

[sharpe1027]

Packers have 1 guy out, 2 questionable. Texans have 5 guys out.

I know, it was a joke because we have more on the injury list.

[Fritz]

Packers have 1 guy out, 2 questionable. Texans have 5 guys out.

It's a rare event when the other team is worse off injury-wise than the Pack. Hope they take advantage instead of making the backup guys look like All Pros.

The guys who write for ACME are advocating for the Packers to run, run, run til their Daddy takes the T-Bird away, saying the injuries to the Texans' like and linebacking corps make them vulnerable. However, those writers also seemed to get a boner when the Packers rushed the hell out of the ball when Willis was the QB, so maybe that's just their thing.

[King Friday]

The Packers do need to run a lot. Tiring the Texans defense will pay dividends in the second half. Balance is what will provide offensive consistency, and the rest of the matter will be based on taking care of the ball. We do that, we win this by 7.

[Joemailman]

The Packers do need to run a lot. Tiring the Texans defense will pay dividends in the second half. Balance is what will provide offensive consistency, and the rest of the matter will be based on taking care of the ball. We do that, we win this by 7.

Also, Love has been great on play action. Texans defense has been terrible against play action. Establish the run and then hit 'em deep.

[bobblehead]

An AFC team in an NFC teams backyard needs to be a W unless said road team is a juggernaut. Houston is merely above average so this needs to be a win. It will be a good test for our defense though as this is a really balanced offense with a good young QB. I'd like to see the group of Halfwits hold them to 20 or less and create a turnover.

Given the turnovers by Love, this was accomplished and then some. Our D balled out. Wilson needs to be a starter until proven otherwise.

[MadtownPacker]

You said the D would be tested. None of what you posted happened so skip the patting yourself on the back this week. They only allowed 86 pass yards and if Love doesn’t fuck up all game it would have never been close.

[bobblehead]

You said the D would be tested. None of what you posted happened so skip the patting yourself on the back this week. They only allowed 86 pass yards and if Love doesn’t fuck up all game it would have never been close.

You've never aced a test...well, you're Mexican so... But Houston's offense is pretty good and well balanced. Also, I said it would be a good test, not that they would be tested. I maintain that. They passed. They were awesome.

I have to pat my back. Its either that or bump the posts where I look like an idiot and I'm not about to start doing that.

[MadtownPacker]

You've never aced a test...well, you're Mexican so... But Houston's offense is pretty good and well balanced. Also, I said it would be a good test, not that they would be tested. I maintain that. They passed. They were awesome.

I have to pat my back. It’s either that or bump the posts where I look like an idiot and I'm not about to start doing that.Mofo I’m more at home and American than you, even if you live in Vegas now. Your Midwest ass ran away from the tests. Just like your posts that are failed predictions. Mamón :lol:

[Joemailman]

Ballentine only player not to practice. Quay Walker still in concussion protocol.

[Joemailman]

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