Packers vs. Lions Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 106-76-7. 104-76-7 in regular season, 2-0 in playoffs.

Last meeting: November 23, 2023. Packers defeated the Lions 29-22 on Thanksgiving Day in Detroit. Jordan Love threw for 268 yard with 3 TD's. Christian Watson caught 5 passes for 94 yards and 1 TD. Rashan Gary had 3 sacks and 2 forced fumbles. For the Lions, Jared Goff threw for 332 yards and 2 TD's. Kalif Raymond caught 5 passes for 90 yards. Amon-Ra St. Brown caught 9 passes for 95 yards. Prior to this game the Lions had won 4 straight over the Packers.

The Lions are 6-1, coming off a 52-14 trouncing of the Tennessee Titans. 6 of the Lions scoring drives started inside the Titans 30 yard line. Offensively, the Lions rank 1st in the NFL in points scored, and 6th in yards gained. Jared Goff has completed 74.1% of his passes for 1695 yards with 13 TD's and 4 INT's. Goff has been sacked 17 times. Amon-Ra St. Brown leads the Lions with 408 receiving yards and 5 TD's. Jameson Williams has 361 receiving yards but will miss this game due to suspension. Jahmyr Gibbs leads the Lions with 591 rushing yards and 6 TD's, averaging 6.4 YPC. David Montgomery has 415 yards rushing with 7 TD's, averaging 4.5 YPC.

Defensively, the Lions rank 8th in points allowed and 20th in yards allowed. Opposing QB's have completed 65.1% of their passes for 1733 yards with just 6 TD's and 10 INT's. Opponents have rushed for 713 yards and 7 TD's averaging 4.7 YPC. The Lions have sacked opposing QB's 20 times. However, Aidan Hutchinson, who leads them with 7.5 sacks is out with an injury.

Lions are favored by 4.5, apparently factoring in that Love will not likely play.
Over/Under: 48.5
Moneyline: Lions -205, Packers +170

[run pMc]

Detroit is on fire right now, embarrassing the Cowboys and the Titans. Goff is being talked about as an MVP candidate. Unless GB gets healthy and plays a complete game for the 2nd time this season (ARI being the first) I don't have a lot of confidence in them getting a win.

[Joemailman]

Some hopeful injury news:

Tom Pelissero
@TomPelissero

An MRI confirmed optimism about Jordan Love’s status: He’ll be day to day and has a shot to play Sunday.


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@cheeseheadtv

������ No long term concerns for Evan Williams, a source told @AaronNagler

Trending towards being ready for Detroit.

[MadScientist]

Detroit is on fire right now, embarrassing the Cowboys and the Titans. Goff is being talked about as an MVP candidate. Unless GB gets healthy and plays a complete game for the 2nd time this season (ARI being the first) I don't have a lot of confidence in them getting a win.

Even if everyone heals enough to play, they will still be less than 100% and down on practice time. The best hope is that Detroit sees this and gets high off all the good press they are getting right now.

[MadtownPacker]

There is no way Willis doesn’t get in this game. I just hope it’s not due to Love struggling if he starts. Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison straight up said they would go with Willis regardless for the Lions game. I have to agree.

[George Cumby]

There is no way Willis doesn’t get in this game. I just hope it’s not due to Love struggling if he starts. Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison straight up said they would go with Willis regardless for the Lions game. I have to agree.

Agreed.

From Mailman's synopsis:

'Opponents have rushed for 713 yards and 7 TD's averaging 4.7 YPC. '

Lots of Jacobs, set up the play action for Willis to take his shots. Some designed runs for Willis.

Let J.Love rest and heal.

[bobblehead]

Opponents are getting good ground success because they Lions have big leads and stop defending the run (part of it anyway). The Lions are really good. They are built in the image I like so it pisses me off. I think they are better than us, and that pisses me off even more.

[texaspackerbacker]

Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.

[King Friday]

The Lions defense remains suspect just as the Packers exposed it last year. Their defense holds up well when playing with a lead where they can get the opposition away from a balanced offense. Their special teams is really what separates them. Their offense didn’t do anything last week and they scored 50 because their return game was off the charts.

BitchSac will likely be embarrassed this week. I believe the scrambling ability of Willis would come in handy against an aggressive Lions defense.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I’m with Tex. Ain’t dissing Good Willis Hunting, but the high school offense the Packers run with Willis ain’t gonna cut it against the Pussies. Gonna need Love and the Mobius Inversion Offense, cos, with Goff pimping like an MVP, game’s likely gonna be a shoot out.

[bobblehead]

Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.

I think this is likely and L regardless of who starts so I would err on caution and go with Willis. We have a bye after so its 2 weeks off for Love. Added bonus if Willis is forced to throw and balls out his trade value in the offseason skyrockets.

[bobblehead]

I’m with Tex. Ain’t dissing Good Willis Hunting, but the high school offense the Packers run with Willis ain’t gonna cut it against the Pussies. Gonna need Love and the Mobius Inversion Offense, cos, with Goff pimping like an MVP, game’s likely gonna be a shoot out.

I'll disagree with both of you. Watch the game again and notice the play action that was near non existent when Love was in the game, but emerged and was wildly successful when Willis was in the game. As with the starts, I think we didn't let willis pass enough. There was room for at least 1 more (probably 2) play actions in Willis' limited time this week. Coaches with highly paid QBs think that they can rely on them exclusively for some reason, but then unexplainably when Willis enters the game MiLF acknowledges (through play calling) that pounding the rock and running play action is a better path to success.

edit: You know what the Lions don't do with Their former #1 overall pick QB? They don't line him up in shotgun constantly eliminating any threat of play action making LB/S reads much easier.

[Vincenzo]

If Love is as hurt as he was last week we’re better off with Willis.
Love couldn’t run last week and the jags knew it.

[MadtownPacker]

Hopefully the damn hyper-cautious medical people get overruled and Love plays. Willis is a good change of pace, and he can beat some lesser teams especially coming in unexpectedly, but his chances as a starter against a good team are not very good.
Please don’t tell me your falling into that moronic way of thinking and negativity. I can see you have been listen to too many media shitheads. Willis didn’t even prep for the game yet he came in when the Jaguars were acting like they were gonna ruin the day and just shut that shit down!

I believe he’s more than capable of handling any team. I will not let defeatist thoughts cloud my judgment the fact that you are siding with anti polar bear is everything I need to know. That guy is a fucking clown of the highest order. I wouldn’t feed any burger he flipped to a dog for fear it has e. Coli with all the shit that spews out of his facetrap.

[Fosco33]

I think Willis is better than an injured Love. Sit him for the bye or risk a hobbled love all year and the playoff.

[Vincenzo]

I think Willis is better than an injured Love. Sit him for the bye or risk a hobbled love all year and the playoff.

That’s it exactly.
Malik Willis is a great backup anyhow, so we’re good.

[texaspackerbacker]

Please don’t tell me your falling into that moronic way of thinking and negativity. I can see you have been listen to too many media shitheads. Willis didn’t even prep for the game yet he came in when the Jaguars were acting like they were gonna ruin the day and just shut that shit down!

I believe he’s more than capable of handling any team. I will not let defeatist thoughts cloud my judgment the fact that you are siding with anti polar bear is everything I need to know. That guy is a fucking clown of the highest order. I wouldn’t feed any burger he flipped to a dog for fear it has e. Coli with all the shit that spews out of his facetrap.

Well, on this end of the forum anyway, APB makes more sense than most other posters (especially when he agrees with me hahahaha) - he agreed with me, not the other way around.

And what "moronic way of thinking and negativity" are you talking about? Have there been some of those media shitheads that said the same as me - that the Packers better not be overly cautious with Love? If so, I guess the blind squirrel thing applies. Willis didn't prep for the Jags game? A pretty shaky assumption there hahahaha. I would think the #2 QB is pretty well prepared anytime.

Sure, the Packers could beat most teams most of the time with Willis (or probably Casey too) - they are that good. That might or might not include Detroit. Regardless, though, it's stupid to sit your first stringer who is one of the top 3 or 4 in the league even if he is only 75%. And the lame-assed reasoning about the bye next week, that is just more reason TO play Love, not reason NOT TO.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm expecting to see the Packers put a helluva lot of pressure on Goff and for Goff to go back to his long term thing prior to this season, throwing it to the other team.

[Vincenzo]

I'm expecting to see the Packers put a helluva lot of pressure on Goff and for Goff to go back to his long term thing prior to this season, throwing it to the other team.
Just imagine we win Sunday, We'd be 7-2
We would lead the strongest division in the NFL.
And could be the #1 seed in the NFC?
Maybe not look back.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I think Willis is better than an injured Love. Sit him for the bye or risk a hobbled love all year and the playoff.

Lovemaker has a groin strain. Ain’t like he’s John Holmes, whose trade required a healthy groin for optimal performances. Tape up the shit.

And the Pussies ain’t some lowly AFC South team. This game is for NFC North supremacy. Willis has been fine and dandy. We’re all grateful that he ain’t The Hun (Huntley), Kizer, Tolzien, or the Stoic Seneca (Wallace).

But at any figurative shoot out, I want a figurative gunslinger to be my champion. Give me Love or give me a figurative death!

[Fosco33]

Lovemaker has a groin strain. Ain’t like he’s John Holmes, whose trade required a healthy groin for optimal performances. Tape up the shit.

And the Pussies ain’t some lowly AFC South team. This game is for NFC North supremacy. Willis has been fine and dandy. We’re all grateful that he ain’t The Hun (Huntley), Kizer, Tolzien, or the Stoic Seneca (Wallace).

But at any figurative shoot out, I want a figurative gunslinger to be my champion. Give me Love or give me a figurative death!

Did we watch the same game? Love looked hurt and played poorly.

North is wide open. Any team could win it. Agree this is a big game but so are all of the remaining divisional games. I’m just saying Love healing for 3 weeks to the remaining schedule increases our chances of playing well for the year.

[sharpe1027]

Willis gives us a better chance if Love is anywhere near as hobbled as he was against the jaguars. Willis is playing great.

[Fosco33]

Groin strains

Recovery timeline: Groin strains are common for NFL players who make sudden starts/stops and change of direction. Minor to moderate strains usually heal with 1-3 weeks of rest, ice, compression, and modified activities. More severe strains can involve partial muscle tears, requiring 4+ weeks of rehab.

Returning too soon risks re-injury.

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, and being hyper-cautious risks losing games. If Love can throw at near 100% - which he seemed to be able to do even right after the injury, and he can move at 75% or so, then he gives the Packers the best chance of winning, and he should be playing.

I don't know what some in here are thinking, but this stupid attitude of let's just be worry worts and not give it the best shot to win is just weird, especially for anybody that goes back to the Favre years and saw the injuries he played through. I wonder how many games he would have gotten stupidly held out of if the damn medical staff was more like now.

[MadScientist]

What's worse, holding him out 1 game or having him out 4 games because his injury gets a lot worse. Also his movement was less than 75%, especially in the critical areas of deception. He was unable to do much in the way of play action, let alone the pivot spin moves that adds a lot of deception to the plays. Losing that deception makes winning a whole lot harder. If Love is good to go, then great. If he isn't, let Willis have a go.

[Fosco33]

We pushed him out there for MN and it didn’t go well. We’re all armchair QBs - if he’s 90% and their doc says he won’t get more injured - fine. But if he’s 75% and risks for more injury - seems more than prudent.

Left knee and now left groin. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to sus this one out.

[texaspackerbacker]

Like I said, worry worts hahahahaha.

Just because he didn't do things doesn't mean he couldn't have, and this, of course, will be a week later.

[bobblehead]

We pushed him out there for MN and it didn’t go well. We’re all armchair QBs - if he’s 90% and their doc says he won’t get more injured - fine. But if he’s 75% and risks for more injury - seems more than prudent.

Left knee and now left groin. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to sus this one out.

Add to it that the play that kinda finished him was a bump in the back that he didn't see coming (sort of a cheap shot). He had to make a sudden muscular adjustment to not fall and it triggered the injury worse.

Sit him. No brainer for me.

[bobblehead]

Like I said, worry worts hahahahaha.

Just because he didn't do things doesn't mean he couldn't have, and this, of course, will be a week later.

And Rodgers will play at a high level until he is 45 and all us idiots think he has slipped and we should trade him.

[MadtownPacker]

Like I said, worry worts hahahahaha.

Just because he didn't do things doesn't mean he couldn't have, and this, of course, will be a week later.
Oh so he was just saving it all game for a dramatic finish then. Well damn you should’ve told us. I just thought he was trying to throw the fucking game cause he owed some motherfuckers in Vegas. Don’t risk getting your label changed from good and normal rat to Pendejo Rat. You are listening to too much media shitheads talking and hyping Love up just to get him hurt. You know that’s what they want right they want to see him go out there and get hurt and ruin the Packers season. And here you are encouraging that. I’m kind of ashamed of you.

[MadtownPacker]

It’s funny how all you skanks are all What you talkin bout Willis now. I recall for the Minnesota game you all thought I was a fucking clown like APB for wanting Willis to start and letting Love rest. How’d that work out?

I just can’t believe Tex is listening to all these media shitheads. I thought he was for the preservation of the Packers being good and everything being normal. Now he wants to start doing some weird shit like further damaging the highly paid starter. Not having any faith in Packers management to have done the right thing with Willis shows a complete lack of faith. But then he also thinks Dak is good quarterback.

[Fosco33]

And Rodgers will play at a high level until he is 45 and all us idiots think he has slipped and we should trade him.

Much less Favre. I bet he wished he had a few less concussions so he didn’t get dementia.

[MadtownPacker]

And Rodgers will play at a high level until he is 45 and all us idiots think he has slipped and we should trade him.
You need to quit steaming that Media shithead radio podcast.

[ThunderDan]

It’s funny how all you skanks are all What you talkin bout Willis now. I recall for the Minnesota game you all thought I was a fucking clown like APB for wanting Willis to start and letting Love rest. How’d that work out?

I just can’t believe Tex is listening to all these media shitheads. I thought he was for the preservation of the Packers being good and everything being normal. Now he wants to start doing some weird shit like further damaging the highly paid starter. Not having any faith in Packers management to have done the right thing with Willis shows a complete lack of faith. But then he also thinks Dak is good quarterback.

He has to dig in on the QB. He said both of our backups in training camp would do fine when they couldn't complete 50% of their passes.

[MadtownPacker]

Much less Favre. I bet he wished he had a few less concussions so he didn’t get dementia.
Like you, Favre was more hard headed than Rodgers. I mean as in he probably has a thicker skull and absorbed hits better. Some people just see stars easier than others. Rodgers is the one to worry about because he is for sure getting CTE if he isn’t already showing signs of it.

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbKh7ChWAAAu9Nm?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Joemailman]

Fox Late - Most of the country will get Detroit at Green Bay. Kevin Burkhardt and Tom Brady with the call. Some of the west, including Alaska, will get LA Rams at Seattle. Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma with the call.

https://506sports.com/2024/09-FOX-L.png

[Fosco33]

Like you, Favre was more hard headed than Rodgers. I mean as in he probably has a thicker skull and absorbed hits better. Some people just see stars easier than others. Rodgers is the one to worry about because he is for sure getting CTE if he isn’t already showing signs of it.

The darkness will save him. Or the boomers. They have neurogenerative properties.

[texaspackerbacker]

Much less Favre. I bet he wished he had a few less concussions so he didn’t get dementia.

Favre is demonstrating a high level of mental competence these days.

[texaspackerbacker]

It’s funny how all you skanks are all What you talkin bout Willis now. I recall for the Minnesota game you all thought I was a fucking clown like APB for wanting Willis to start and letting Love rest. How’d that work out?

I just can’t believe Tex is listening to all these media shitheads. I thought he was for the preservation of the Packers being good and everything being normal. Now he wants to start doing some weird shit like further damaging the highly paid starter. Not having any faith in Packers management to have done the right thing with Willis shows a complete lack of faith. But then he also thinks Dak is good quarterback.

I was referring to one of those dumbasses in here whining about how Love couldn't pivot or whatever. Obviously for a good part of the game after the injury, he played and played at a decent level even if he didn't make every move he might normally make. Then he fell down and didn't get up right away. Whether he couldn't continue or some damn trainer just thought he shouldn't, it's hard to tell. Anyway, Willis came in against another weak opponent and did the job. I've certainly got nothing against him, but I say again, Love at 75% mobility and able to make throws gives the Packers a far better chance than Willis against a good team.

And yeah, contrary to what one of our real forum shitheads posted several posts above, against those weaker teams, Casey or the other guy undoubtedly coulda done as good or better than Willis.

Also, saying the obvious again, Love played fairly decent after the injury, and the Lions game will be a week later. I HOPE they don't get stupidly hyper-cautious like they did with Aaron Jones last year for example and probably other cases too, and hold him out of the game.

In addition to all the highlights of Favre playing through injuries, the last Packer game I went to in person was the famous Bears game that Aaron Rodgers came back from what seemed to be a serious injury and led the team back in the second half. I'm wondering with the current medical staff if he woulda been allowed to do that or Favre doing his injury heroics so many times.

[SudsMcBucky]

Fox Late - Most of the country will get Detroit at Green Bay. Kevin Burkhardt and Tom Brady with the call. Some of the west, including Alaska, will get LA Rams at Seattle. Kenny Albert and Jonathan Vilma with the call.

https://506sports.com/2024/09-FOX-L.png

It's about damn time I get to watch them!!!

[bobblehead]

You need to quit steaming that Media shithead radio podcast.

I was mocking Tex. I thought it was obvious.

[bobblehead]

Favre is demonstrating a high level of mental competence these days.

By making good decisions and ripping off welfare recipients??

[Freak Out]

Fuck FOX.

[Fosco33]

By making good decisions and ripping off welfare recipients??

He stated 10 years ago if he had a son he wouldn’t want him to play football.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-brett-favre-20131118-story.html

[Fosco33]

Love practicing

https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1852037735638266111

[MadtownPacker]

I was mocking Tex. I thought it was obvious.
It was and then you totally miss my attempt to play off it. Pendejo!

Losing your edge man. Might have to get you tested too and not just for STDs.

[MadtownPacker]

Love practicing

https://twitter.com/RobDemovsky/status/1852037735638266111
I am starting to question Love’s conditioning. He is getting banged up easily for a young guy. If he didn’t get hurt that bad and can play that means he needs to get stronger to keep himself in games. If he starts and shit starts going bad will the chants for Willis begin?

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbPqp9aW0AAk8Sv?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fritz]

Not looking good for Williams or Myers.

I’d rather them sit Love so MLF can maybe learn how to call a game that focuses on run and play action and get it through his thick skull that that same game plan might help Love too when he comes back healthy after the bye.

[George Cumby]

I am starting to question Love’s conditioning. He is getting banged up easily for a young guy. If he didn’t get hurt that bad and can play that means he needs to get stronger to keep himself in games. If he starts and shit starts going bad will the chants for Willis begin?

I'm telling you, he needs to train with Jalen Hurts during the off-season.

He's a better passer but J. Love has toothpick legs. He needs some mass and strength down under.

[bobblehead]

It was and then you totally miss my attempt to play off it. Pendejo!

Losing your edge man. Might have to get you tested too and not just for STDs.
I drink a lot. Thats my story and I'm sticking too it.

[bobblehead]

Not looking good for Williams or Myers.

I’d rather them sit Love so MLF can maybe learn how to call a game that focuses on run and play action and get it through his thick skull that that same game plan might help Love too when he comes back healthy after the bye.

Wouldn't that be a treat.

[bobblehead]

I'm telling you, he needs to train with Jalen Hurts during the off-season.

He's a better passer but J. Love has toothpick legs. He needs some mass and strength down under.

Flexibility more so. Remember when Giannis bent his knee backwards and played a week later. Giannis worked on his flexibility like a madman as he grew into his body.

[Joemailman]

Flexibility more so. Remember when Giannis bent his knee backwards and played a week later. Giannis worked on his flexibility like a madman as he grew into his body.

Did Love wearing a brace on his knee likely lead to a lack of flexibility in his leg that contributed to the groin injury?

[Vincenzo]

Jaire Alexander could be the key to this game. I’m afraid his absence will be felt versus the Lions’ high powered aerial attack. Goff’s pass game is on fire right now and it’s a player like Jaire that can put a stop to it.

[Tony Oday]

No idea how the Packers win this against the Lions. I want them to but I just don't see it.

[Joemailman]

No idea how the Packers win this against the Lions. I want them to but I just don't see it.

Have to get pressure on Goff without blitzing a ton. That means simulated pressures. Vikings sacked Goff 4 times, but also got burned because they were blitzing 2/3 of the time.

[Joemailman]

Wes Hodkiewicz
@WesHod

QB Jordan Love (groin) is participating in Friday’s practice.

Like Thursday, CB Jaire Alexander (knee), S Evan Williams (hamstring) & C Josh Myers (wrist) are not practicing. #DETvsGB

[Joemailman]

Evan Williams out. Josh Myers doubtful. If Myers out probably see Jenkins at C, Rhyan at LG and Morgan at RG.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbUy7gTW8AAUI30?format=jpg&name=large

[Fosco33]

Lots of guys out

[Joemailman]

Jason B. Hirschhorn
@by_JBH

Jordan Love is "tracking to play" against the Lions this Sunday barring a setback, per to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport.

Love practiced on both Thursday and Friday. He's officially questionable.

[Vincenzo]

Looks like Jaire’s gonna be out, which sucks!

[bobblehead]

With the bye coming and this being a very possible/likely loss anyway I'd rest up and get healthy. Let Willis start. Rest all the banged up guys. Be ready for the grind to come. I know its the NFL and teams just don't do that, but I can't help but feel that even if we win, if we lose a guy because he rushed back, we really lose.

[Teamcheez1]

In this game, Willis is a loss.
Love gives us a chance for winning.

[MadtownPacker]

In this game, Willis is a loss.
Love gives us a chance for winning.
Your post in week 2 about Willis were wrong and might be again.

[MadtownPacker]

Why does everyone fear then lions so bad? just cause they smoked a super shitty Cowboys team? Barely beat the Vikings? I don’t see how the Packers are at such a disadvantage.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

“Casey” ain’t being called up from the PS. Lovemaker is a sure bet to start.

[Teamcheez1]

Your post in week 2 about Willis were wrong and might be again.

You’re one to talk….
Willis is an adequate backup for the Packers, he will never be anything else.

[Fritz]

With the bye coming and this being a very possible/likely loss anyway I'd rest up and get healthy. Let Willis start. Rest all the banged up guys. Be ready for the grind to come. I know its the NFL and teams just don't do that, but I can't help but feel that even if we win, if we lose a guy because he rushed back, we really lose.

What he said.

[MadtownPacker]

You’re one to talk….
Willis is an adequate backup for the Packers, he will never be anything else.
What did I talk about? Man up and at least provide some examples.

[MadtownPacker]

I'm telling you, he needs to train with Jalen Hurts during the off-season.

He's a better passer but J. Love has toothpick legs. He needs some mass and strength down under.
I don’t think he will ever bulk up. Just not his body type. I’m talking more about the flexibility stuff and being fit stuff Bobble mentioned. Kinda like the stuff Brady started doing after his ACL got destroyed.

[Joemailman]

If the Packers want to win the division, they have to win this game. You don't sit anyone who is cleared to play and can help you win.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If the Packers want to win the division, they have to win this game. You don't sit anyone who is cleared to play and can help you win.

The alpha male of a pack of wolves refrains from displaying weaknesses at all costs. Weakness is an invitation for another male to dethrone the alpha.

Can’t win them all. But, as leader of the Pack, it is important that the Lovemaker lead by displaying toughness. Go win the fucking game!

[MadtownPacker]

If the Packers want to win the division, they have to win this game. You don't sit anyone who is cleared to play and can help you win.
For the most part yes but they could spilt with the lions and somehow still win it.

Keyword help. If Love is himself ok but if not Willis give the better chance.

[MadtownPacker]

The alpha male of a pack of wolves refrains from displaying weaknesses at all costs. Weakness is an invitation for another male to dethrone the alpha.

Can’t win them all. But, as leader of the Pack, it is important that the Lovemaker lead by displaying toughness. Go win the fucking game!You just described last week with Willis coming in and winning it. So how does it go now?

I hate to say but the was an obvious energy when Willis went in.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You just described last week with Willis coming in and winning it. So how does it go now?

I hate to say but the was an obvious energy when Willis went in.

Game’s likely gonna be a shootout. In a shootout, the Packers are better off with Love.

[QBME]

If the Packers want to win the division, they have to win this game. You don't sit anyone who is cleared to play and can help you win.

Maybe probably, but not a certainty.
If the Packers lose tomorrow they can still split with the Lions and Vikings. Would need to sweep the Bears. After that need to win out over common opponents. A heavy lift but possible.

[texaspackerbacker]

I say again, if Love can throw normally and has 75% or more mobility, then he should play.

Must win game or any other game, you don't give up the best chance to win just for stupid hyper-caution. And beyond that, people in here saying he should sit it out don't have any knowledge about how good or bad off he is. Neither do I, of course, but I'm saying the default should be to play him and anybody else who can play at say 75% or more ability - unless a replacement's 100% is better than the injured guy's 75%, which it ain't in the case of Love.

I'm thinking LaFleur has the good sense to play him.

[bobblehead]

You’re one to talk….
Willis is an adequate backup for the Packers, he will never be anything else.

Who was that guy, skinhead? Rumpleflintskin? Some skin guy. Yea, you sound just like that guy.

[bobblehead]

The alpha male of a pack of wolves refrains from displaying weaknesses at all costs. Weakness is an invitation for another male to dethrone the alpha.

Can’t win them all. But, as leader of the Pack, it is important that the Lovemaker lead by displaying toughness. Go win the fucking game!

That is when the alpha female has his back and hen pecks him until he rests his damn groin. I agree though, men with testosterone refuse to show weakness, even for their own good.

[bobblehead]

Game’s likely gonna be a shootout. In a shootout, the Packers are better off with Love.

Or is it less likely to be a shootout with Willis running ball control, keeping Goff on the sideline frustrated?

[bobblehead]

And to be clear, my position is that if Love is impeded Wilis gives us the better chance to win. Last week, once Love was hurting, it was shotgun, no play action, don't make him back peddle all game and we lost a ton of deception. If Love lines up under center, we pound it 25 times and play action off it all game I'm fine with either guy.