Packers at Bears Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 107-95-6. 106-94-6 in regular season, 1-1 in playoffs. The Packers have won the last 10 meetings and 15 of the last 16.

Last meeting: January 7, 2024. Packers defeated the Bears 17-9 at Lambeau Field. Jordan Love threw for 316 yards and 2 TD's. Jayden Reed caught 4 passes for 112 yards. Dontayvion Wicks caught 6 passes for 61 yards and 2 TD's. Aaron Jones rushed 22 times for 111 yards. The Packers defense held Justin Fields to 148 yards passing and sacked him 5 times. Packers held the Bears to 75 yards rushing.

The Bears come into this game on a 3 game losing streak. Offensively, the Bears are ranked 24th in points scored, and 30th in yards gained. Caleb Williams has completed 60.5% of his passes for 1785 yards with 9 TD's and 5 INT's. He has been sacked 38 times. Rome Odunze leads the Bears with 28 catches for 414 yards and 1 TD. DJ Moore has caught 40 passes for 398 yards and 3 TD's. D'Andre Swift has rushed for 564 yards and 4 TD's, averaging 4.0 YPC.

Defensively, the Bears rank 7th in points allowed and 13th in yards gained. Opposing QB's have completed 61.6% of their passes for 1714 yards with just 6 TD's and 8 INT's. The Bears have sacked opposing QB's 24 times, led by Gervon Dexter with 4 and Montez Sweat with 3.5. Opponents have rushed for 1197 yards and 9 TD's, averaging 4.8 YPC.

Packers are favored by 6.5
Moneyline: Bears +230, Packers -285
Over/under: 41.5

[MadtownPacker]

Let’s talk about what really matters, who is going to start the new thread streak? Do we call up Bretsky already or wait until the last month?

[Joemailman]

Matt Schneidman
@mattschneidman

Matt LaFleur tells me he’s “optimistic” that Jaire Alexander, Evan Williams and Josh Myers will all play Sunday in Chicago coming off the bye but will give them the week. All three missed the Lions game.

[bobblehead]

Let’s talk about what really matters, who is going to start the new thread streak? Do we call up Bretsky already or wait until the last month?

I always prefer to do it when its a short term obligation, not like currently when its about to be a job through February, but if no one steps up by 9am I might give it a go.

[bobblehead]

Oh...and also we are going to beat the bears. The only thing I am looking for in this game is Love making smart decisions.

[Fritz]

Let’s talk about what really matters, who is going to start the new thread streak? Do we call up Bretsky already or wait until the last month?

I think we save Bretsky for the end-of-the-season run.

As for the game, it looks like another typical Bears' team - good defense, good special teams, lousy offense, though that might not be due to Caleb Williams's not being good enough, but to his offensive line sucking hard and Williams being a rookie.

But the fans are getting restless with the coaching staff, so that adds a fun element for us Packer fans.

Imagine how panicked we'll be, though, if the Bears' offensive line doesn't allow a single sack. I don't know why Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary, the two highly paid defensive line guys, can't do much these days in terms of sacks.

I'm hoping Lukas The Mess gets his act together now that he's going to get more snaps, but he hasn't seemed to show much progress yet, and we're halfway through season two. But maybe it'll come together. We'll see.

Quay Walker, on the other hand, is starting to look like another mediocre first-round pick by the Packers. He might be okay, but he's not good.

[bobblehead]

Clark is my big disappointment. They are asking EDGEs to collapse the pocket and not allow the QB to escape. Clark and Wyatt are supposed to be penetrating to force the issue, but Clark is invisible and Wyatt is ok, not great at it.

[ThunderDan]

I think we save Bretsky for the end-of-the-season run.

As for the game, it looks like another typical Bears' team - good defense, good special teams, lousy offense, though that might not be due to Caleb Williams's not being good enough, but to his offensive line sucking hard and Williams being a rookie.

But the fans are getting restless with the coaching staff, so that adds a fun element for us Packer fans.

Imagine how panicked we'll be, though, if the Bears' offensive line doesn't allow a single sack. I don't know why Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary, the two highly paid defensive line guys, can't do much these days in terms of sacks.

I'm hoping Lukas The Mess gets his act together now that he's going to get more snaps, but he hasn't seemed to show much progress yet, and we're halfway through season two. But maybe it'll come together. We'll see.

Quay Walker, on the other hand, is starting to look like another mediocre first-round pick by the Packers. He might be okay, but he's not good.

What about me? I had the R E L A X season with the playoff run where I ran a marathon in the morning and had the game day thread ready to go.

[sharpe1027]

What about me? I had the R E L A X season with the playoff run where I ran a marathon in the morning and had the game day thread ready to go.
Now I'm concerned. I appreciate your posts, but anyone that chooses to willingly run a marathon isn't right in the head.

[King Friday]

Is it better to unwillingly run a marathon?

[King Friday]

The OL plan for the stretch run needs to start coming together with this warmup game against a wilting Bears team that will fade quickly if they are punched in the face. Running the ball with efficiency will take pressure off Love. This team has the capability to pound teams into submission, and that is what they need to do on Sunday.

[sharpe1027]

Is it better to unwillingly run a marathon?

Being forced to run it is probably worse, but it doesn't mean you WANTED to subject yourself to that much pain and monotony.

[MadtownPacker]

What about me? I had the R E L A X season with the playoff run where I ran a marathon in the morning and had the game day thread ready to go.
Well you done fuked up now TD. We look forward to your thread Sunday.

And who loves you and who do you love!!!

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[MadtownPacker]

Being forced to run it is probably worse, but it doesn't mean you WANTED to subject yourself to that much pain and monotony.
Sometimes it works out. See above.

[ThunderDan]

Now I'm concerned. I appreciate your posts, but anyone that chooses to willingly run a marathon isn't right in the head.

Good thing I didn’t mention the Ironman I completed in the early 2000s.

[QBME]

Bears fire OC Shane Waldron this morning.

[Teamcheez1]

Bears fire OC Shane Waldron this morning.

Two OC’s fired by the Bears this year. Luke Getsy was fired in January.
Methinks that Eberflus is the real problem.

[MadScientist]

Two OC’s fired by the Bears this year. Luke Getsy was fired in January.
Methinks that Eberflus is the real problem.

Well one of the real problems, anyway. Complete mistake to keep him after showing nothing previously, instead of a fresh start with a new HC, OC and QB, and give them a couple of seasons to grow together.

[Joemailman]

Bears are firing offensive coordinator Shane Waldron and handing over playcalling duties to passing game coordinator Thomas Brown.

With Brown calling plays in 2023, Bryce Young and the Panthers scored 30 points in a near upset of the Packers in December. However, the Panthers ranked 31st in scoring and 32nd in yards gained last season.

[run pMc]

Well one of the real problems, anyway. Complete mistake to keep him after showing nothing previously, instead of a fresh start with a new HC, OC and QB, and give them a couple of seasons to grow together.

Bears have never fired a HC in season allegedly, and if that's true they likely want to keep that tradition alive. McCaskeys aren't super rich and probably don't want to eat that contract, which is up soon anyway. Eberflus will be gone when the season ends, Waldron was running a bad scheme but firing him now is basically rearranging the Titanic's deck chairs. The OL is very beat up so they are playing OL depth guys, and their starters weren't great. Caleb has good skill players but Caleb has started to get happy feet and see ghosts, his footwork is off and that's impacted play timing (and his accuracy).

I don't know much about Thomas Brown, even if he put up 30 on a Barry defense, that doesn't mean he's competent. You could have Red (drunk late in the 4Q) call a good game against a Barry defense. I do wonder if a new voice will give the offense a modest bounce, and the Bears probably are a desperate team, so that makes them dangerous. I do agree that if you can jump on them early and punch them in the face they might not put up much fight. They haven't been good offensively, so 21 points should be enough to win.

Jordan Love absolutely needs to start making better choices with the ball. If he can do that and this team starts to gel they can make another run.

[bobblehead]

Is it better to unwillingly run a marathon?

Yes. It means that you WANTED to make a better choice but were forced into a bad one.

[Joemailman]

This will be interesting. Packers will be going up against an OC they faced last year, but is the Bears offense schematically similar to that Carolina offense? Bears OC will be facing Packers again, but a very different Packer defense than the one he faced last year.

[Fosco33]

Can we hire their OC as consultant for the week?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Can we hire their OC as consultant for the week?

Why?

That Bear offense got neutered by a hapless Traitor D. If Haf-fucked’s unit can’t at least neutralize the same O, might as well can the man and bring in Sideshow Bob (Saleh).

[Patler]

Bears fire OC Shane Waldron this morning.

Now the question is, who will start at QB? I just saw this:


With the Bears slumping to a three-game losing streak in which Williams has not thrown a touchdown, a group of anonymous veterans approached Eberflus and general manager Ryan Poles to make the change at offensive coordinator. The group also wanted Williams benched for backup Bagent...

[Fritz]

Now the question is, who will start at QB? I just saw this:

Uh oh. That sounds like a dumpster fire - anonymous vets asking for coaches to be fired and QB's to be benched.

It'll be interesting to see how the Packers' defensive line does against an undermanned Bears' offensive line. See if the young bucks (Mosby and Cox) get any snaps along with Van Mess, and see if they have more success.

The Bears' defense and special teams are of course good, so that should keep things tight - but it's also time for Love & Co. to start playing cleaner on the offensive side of the ball - the interceptions, the drops, the penalties. And you can't afford to lose another division game here, no a winnable one like this one.

[Fosco33]

Why?

That Bear offense got neutered by a hapless Traitor D. If Haf-fucked’s unit can’t at least neutralize the same O, might as well can the man and bring in Sideshow Bob (Saleh).

He and Matt worked together in LA. It’s like when teams sign veterans cut by their opponent to their team before they play. It’s a dig more than anything.

[George Cumby]

Now the question is, who will start at QB? I just saw this:

"With the Bears slumping to a three-game losing streak in which Williams has not thrown a touchdown, a group of anonymous veterans approached Eberflus and general manager Ryan Poles to make the change at offensive coordinator. The group also wanted Williams benched for backup Bagent..."

What a complete dumpster fire.

Jim and Pat on 'Moving the Chains' who are generally pretty level headed, were losing their minds yesterday, absolutely excoriating the players for this BS.

Pretty clear, 'Flus has lost this team.

[Joemailman]

I just hope the Packers players aren't spending a bunch of time on social media reading about how dysfunctional the Bears are.

[Joemailman]

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- The Chicago Bears released veteran guard Nate Davis on Wednesday, the team announced.

Davis, 28, is now subject to waivers. Any team that claims the offensive lineman is responsible for paying the remaining $3.9 million Davis is due in fully guaranteed salary.

The move comes three days after Davis was a late addition to the injury report ahead of the Bears' 19-3 loss to the New England Patriots. Davis reported back tightness to team trainers on Sunday morning, was ruled out and sent home because "we don't want a guy standing on two feet with a back issue," according to coach Matt Eberflus.

Davis was not on the injury report during Chicago's week of practice ahead of the New England game.

[MadScientist]

LAKE FOREST, Ill. -- The Chicago Bears released veteran guard Nate Davis on Wednesday, the team announced.

Davis, 28, is now subject to waivers. Any team that claims the offensive lineman is responsible for paying the remaining $3.9 million Davis is due in fully guaranteed salary.

The move comes three days after Davis was a late addition to the injury report ahead of the Bears' 19-3 loss to the New England Patriots. Davis reported back tightness to team trainers on Sunday morning, was ruled out and sent home because "we don't want a guy standing on two feet with a back issue," according to coach Matt Eberflus.

Davis was not on the injury report during Chicago's week of practice ahead of the New England game.

If he reported back problems last week, but now is waved without an injury designation, he must have just quit on the team. That dumpster fire on the lake keeps getting larger.

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky

With Jordan Love no longer limited, it means he took all the practice reps for the first time in a while.

“It'd be good to just get him some practice under his belt where he's fully healthy,” Matt LaFleur said.

Love will listed on the injury report but as a full participant.

[run pMc]

Yeah the scuttlebutt I've heard is that Davis basically made a business decision, and got cut for it.
Also: that DJ Moore is unhappy and was one of the players supposedly wanting Williams benched. I guess that play where he walked off the field to the bench was for real.

New OC, players quitting and squabbling, sounding like things are in tatters... this team will either be pulling out every trick in the bag and playing desperate and fearless (they have nothing to lose, the coaches will be fired after the season) or they will fold after taking a couple of punches.

Caleb Williams will start.

If GB can stifle/frustrate that offense and get an early lead, the boo-birds will be out and it will get in CHI players' heads.

[Joemailman]

Yeah the scuttlebutt I've heard is that Davis basically made a business decision, and got cut for it.
Also: that DJ Moore is unhappy and was one of the players supposedly wanting Williams benched. I guess that play where he walked off the field to the bench was for real.

New OC, players quitting and squabbling, sounding like things are in tatters... this team will either be pulling out every trick in the bag and playing desperate and fearless (they have nothing to lose, the coaches will be fired after the season) or they will fold after taking a couple of punches.

Caleb Williams will start.

If GB can stifle/frustrate that offense and get an early lead, the boo-birds will be out and it will get in CHI players' heads.

Moore never wanted the Bears to draft Williams to begin with.

As the Bears prepare to take in the pool of quarterback prospects available at the NFL Scouting Combine this week, with many on the outside connecting the dots from their No. 1 overall pick to a QB such as Caleb Williams, Moore is steadfast in his belief that Fields remains the best option.

"I still don't think they compare to Justin right now," Moore said Monday on NFL Total Access regarding the quarterbacks in the draft.

It's little wonder Moore would back his QB.

He had far and away the best year of his career last season while working with Fields. Moore led the Bears with 96 catches for 1,364 yards and eight touchdowns, all career bests.

"The relationship jelled real well from the beginning," Moore said about forming a bond with Fields following a trade from Carolina last offseason." Since I got traded, he was in contact, and we started throwing together, so it made the transition into games and everything easy."

[Joemailman]

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[Joemailman]

Fox Single - Middle of the country and some of east will get Packers at Bears. Kevin Burkhardt and Tom Brady with the call. Much of west, including Alaska, will get Seattle at San Francisco (Late). Joe Davis and Greg Olsen with the call. Mountain states, and some of south will get Atlanta at Denver (Late). Kevin Kugler and Daryl Johnson with the call.

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[RandsRevenge]

Well you done fuked up now TD. We look forward to your thread Sunday.

And who loves you and who do you love!!!

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Where is TD?

He had to split

[Fritz]

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Seems like about three-quarters of the Bears’ team should be listed as “limited participation.”

Packers better win this one, and not by the skin of their teeth, though that wouldn’t surprise me.

[bobblehead]

If he reported back problems last week, but now is waved without an injury designation, he must have just quit on the team. That dumpster fire on the lake keeps getting larger.

I think that is the implication of "sending him home".

[Joemailman]

Jordan Love the last time he faced the Bears.

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[MadtownPacker]

Am I wrong for thinking the Pack is going to stomp the bears out early?

[MadtownPacker]

Jordan Love the last time he faced the Bears.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/static-charts/900/pass-chart_LOV130776_2023-REG-18_1704672297957.jpeg
Well, shit that’s just what the doctor ordered. Maybe this is the game he gets on track and goes off for the rest of the year.

[MadScientist]

Am I wrong for thinking the Pack is going to stomp the bears out early?

Yes, you shouldn't just be thinking it, you should be expecting it. The Packers are healthier, better, not in disarray, and coming off a bye. This should be a stomping, and anything less is a disappointment.

[bobblehead]

Yep. This game is going to be snuff porn.

[MadtownPacker]

Yes, you shouldn't just be thinking it, you should be expecting it. The Packers are healthier, better, not in disarray, and coming off a bye. This should be a stomping, and anything less is a disappointment.
You’re right I’m being a big pussy. Does predicting a 41 - 13 score get me back in?

[MadScientist]

You’re right I’m being a big pussy. Does predicting a 41 - 13 score get me back in?

That's more like it.

[George Cumby]

Yep. This game is going to be snuff porn.

You can go to Hell telling jokes like that.

But I'm going to Hell for laughing at it.

[Joemailman]

‪Aaron Nagler‬ ‪@aaronnagler.bsky.social‬

Evan Williams and Jaire Alexander are Questionable for the Bears game. Colby Wooden is Doubtful. Jordan Morgan and MarShawn Lloyd are Out.

[Fritz]

You’re right I’m being a big pussy. Does predicting a 41 - 13 score get me back in?

Slow down, people. Every year there's that one game everyone thinks is a certain win, a blowout, and the Packers find a way to lose. Or to squeak out a fugly win. This would make sense to be that game. Sure, they've lost games this year, but all were contending teams. This is the one that's supposed to be a cakewalk, and as I said, every year, there's that one game.

Maybe they lose this one, and that's what forces them to look in the mirror and get it together.

I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me.

[MadScientist]

The game against Detroit should have forced them to look in the mirror and see how they've been fucking up too often. And it should have left them with a burning acid feeling in the pit of their stomachs. Fuck looking past anybody. This game is genuinely important for their playoff hopes. They should come out breathing fire, ready to slam the opponent to the ground and walk all over them like a cheap bear-skin rug. Anything less is a complete failure of the organization.

[MadtownPacker]

Slow down, people. Every year there's that one game everyone thinks is a certain win, a blowout, and the Packers find a way to lose. Or to squeak out a fugly win. This would make sense to be that game. Sure, they've lost games this year, but all were contending teams. This is the one that's supposed to be a cakewalk, and as I said, every year, there's that one game.

Maybe they lose this one, and that's what forces them to look in the mirror and get it together.

I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me.
Wasn’t that the Jax game?

[pittstang5]

Slow down, people. Every year there's that one game everyone thinks is a certain win, a blowout, and the Packers find a way to lose. Or to squeak out a fugly win. This would make sense to be that game. Sure, they've lost games this year, but all were contending teams. This is the one that's supposed to be a cakewalk, and as I said, every year, there's that one game.

Maybe they lose this one, and that's what forces them to look in the mirror and get it together.

I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me.

Agreed - there's so much shit I hear going on in Chicago, we as Packer fans sit back and think, yep - here they go again, implode time. Then Chicago comes out tomorrow and punches the Pack right in the mouth. Don't want it to happen, but that's our luck sometimes.

[bobblehead]

You’re right I’m being a big pussy. Does predicting a 41 - 13 score get me back in?

Sure, but I'm not sure the Bears can muster 13. Maybe a garbage time TD as we burn the last 4 minutes off the clock letting them have the middle of the field.

[bobblehead]

You can go to Hell telling jokes like that.

But I'm going to Hell for laughing at it.

I don't advocate or watch snuff porn. I do advocate snuffing out the Bears playoff hopes though.

[bobblehead]

Slow down, people. Every year there's that one game everyone thinks is a certain win, a blowout, and the Packers find a way to lose. Or to squeak out a fugly win. This would make sense to be that game. Sure, they've lost games this year, but all were contending teams. This is the one that's supposed to be a cakewalk, and as I said, every year, there's that one game.

Maybe they lose this one, and that's what forces them to look in the mirror and get it together.

I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me.

Possible, but that game is more likely to be the Dolphins or saints games. The games around those 2 make a lack of focus more likely.

[Joemailman]

Jordan Morgan to IR.

[Fritz]

Jordan Morgan to IR.

That's a shit first year for him, and for Lloyd. And Olidapo hasn't done a thing, I don't think, nor has the third-rounder Hopper.

Cooper's been good, not sure about Bullard - he doesn't seem all that great. Williams has been a revelation.

Maybe Monk will prove to be the better offensive lineman this year.

[sharpe1027]

Bullard seems like he can be good. Williams has been so much better relatively though.

[QBME]

Slow down, people. Every year there's that one game everyone thinks is a certain win, a blowout, and the Packers find a way to lose. Or to squeak out a fugly win. This would make sense to be that game. Sure, they've lost games this year, but all were contending teams. This is the one that's supposed to be a cakewalk, and as I said, every year, there's that one game.

Maybe they lose this one, and that's what forces them to look in the mirror and get it together.

I hope not, but it wouldn't shock me.

Got to agree. Spent the whole week listening to the local media doing an all-out dump on the Bears and I have been over fed with heaping servings of schadenfreude.

Yes, the Bears are in disarray to say the least. They are now the proverbial wounded animal in a corner. With the toughest remaining schedule in the NFL this is do or die for them. The players pissed and moaned about the coaching, particularly the offense, and the OC got canned. The whole team knows the HC is for all intents and purposes a dead man walking. The players know all eyes that matter will be on them tomorrow and just as important, next season. They have way more than just the game to lose, and everything to gain. The roster is actually respectable with the glaring exception of the offensive line. The defense has been above average with the exception of the past couple of games. Thier defense remains effective in the Red Zone where coincidentally the Packers have been anemic at best.

Let's hope that the Pack understands everything and puts it into perspective. Especially the fact the Packers have won 10 straight against them and LaFleur has never lost to the Bears. Do your job and don't get too wound up and make stupid mistakes. Also, it would be very helpful if Kenny Clark and Rashan Gary could find their ways off of the milk carton and onto the field in a meaningful way.

As the sayings go, Any Given Sunday, Thats Why the Game Is Played, That Damn Ball Bounces Funny, etc.

I am very cautiously optimistic.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Jordan Morgan to IR.

Sigh.

The scars of the German Shephard’s incompetence remind me of the Polar Bear. They keep me thinkin’ that we coulda won it all. It’s “Sherrod in the deep” all over again.

Wasting a 1st on an injure-prone Yokozuna who couldn’t beat out some flag-prone 7th rounder and a damn center playing RT is sheer incompetence.

Coulda grabbed X-Worth, Kool-Aid, Maxi “The Taxi” Melton or the Great White Hope, Cooper Dejean.