Studs And Duds - Packers vs. 49ers

[Joemailman]

Studs

Josh Jacobs - He destroyed 49ers will to fight.

Quay Walker - Great at running plays down all day.

Xavier McKinney - Game was very much in doubt until his INT. Also had great pass defensed on pass to McCaffrey.

Duds

Jordan Love - Several turnover-worthy plays. Doesn't seem to be seeing the field well right now.

Christian Watson - Gotta catch that ball, son.

[SkinBasket]

We’re still at winning despite our QB. Which would be fine if he was paid proportionally, but he’s not. Again, dood was literally set up for success, but instead he sucks the success out of every set. I would put him in the studs category for not throwing a pick, but he tried his best again. Best $250 million turd there ever was. So glad I was banned last season for pointing that out.

[MadtownPacker]

You’re a crying little victim of your own making but I won’t say you are wrong about Love’s play. He also almost has a big fumble that he got the lucky bounce on. Once Watson dropped that big pass before half Love got careless and/or inaccurate. Strong effort by the defense and Jacobs abusing the niners defense bailed him out.

Studs

Both big FA signing, Jacobs killing the defense and McKinney shutting that shit down when needed. When was the last time the Packers had two big free agents work out this well?

Duds

Love for allowing one of the worst creatures on this planet to say “I told you so” and overall inconsistent and sometimes shitty play on the actual field.

[SkinBasket]

Your grace has been noted.

[bobblehead]

Your grace has been noted.

You were banned? I figured you just looked so foolish that you slinked away.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I ain’t get the Love disses.

Game plan was obvious that boring smash mouth shit. Watson dropped a perfect bomb-6. Catch the motherfucking rock, and Love’s playa of the weeka. Threw another perfect would-be TD to Doubs - Doubs got mugged. No picks. Packers scored more times than Tyrion Lannister in a brothel on any given night.

All in all, the Lovemaker made plenty of love. Know who makes lots of love? A fucking stud. Lovemaker’s stud against the 69ers, no doubt.

[Fritz]

We’re still at winning despite our QB. Which would be fine if he was paid proportionally, but he’s not. Again, dood was literally set up for success, but instead he sucks the success out of every set. I would put him in the studs category for not throwing a pick, but he tried his best again. Best $250 million turd there ever was. So glad I was banned last season for pointing that out.

Skin, you are conveniently leaving out the second part of your argument: that Sean Clifford is a better QB than Jordan Love.

So I don't think your "I told you so" carries much weight.

[bobblehead]

Skin, you are conveniently leaving out the second part of your argument: that Sean Clifford is a better QB than Jordan Love.

So I don't think your "I told you so" carries much weight.

His opinion on the matter carries next to no weight. Its not only "moving the goal posts" but it comes across as hysterical and attention starved. Came across this for those that are into this kind of thing:

Through 25 NFL starts:

Completion Percentage

Love: 63.6 percent. Rodgers: 63.7 percent. Favre: 63.5 percent.

Passing Yards

Love: 6,240. Rodgers: 6,482. Favre: 5,386.

Passing Touchdowns

Love: 48. Rodgers: 45. Favre: 31.

Touchdown percentage

Love: 5.7 percent. Rodgers: 5.4 percent. Favre: 3.8 percent.

Interceptions

Love: 22. Rodgers: 18. Favre: 30.

Interception percentage

Love: 2.4 percent. Rodgers: 2.2 percent. Favre: 3.7 percent.

Yards Per Attempt

Love: 7.5. Rodgers: 7.8. Favre: 6.6.

Passer Rating

Love: 94.4. Rodgers: 96.6. Favre: 79.7.

Record

Love: 14-11. Rodgers: 11-14. Favre: 15-9.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers was one of the all time greats. Love him or hate him, he is a top 10 all time QB in a league that has been around a long time. Through 25 Love is right there with him. That isn't saying Love takes the next step Rodgers did, and I think we lean on the run game more than we did with Rodgers, but he is a QB you can win with. He is just overpaid in all likelihood (but then again about 20 NFL QBs are overpaid).

[SkinBasket]

Skin, you are conveniently leaving out the second part of your argument: that Sean Clifford is a better QB than Jordan Love.

So I don't think your "I told you so" carries much weight.

I’m not leaving it out. It’s no longer relevant. But no, I wouldn’t take it back either. During the time in question I fully believe the team would have won more games with Clifford at QB than Love. Anyway, now we just have a Bears level QB with a HOF price tag.

Also, as noted previously, Willis looked just as comfortable running this offense after 2 weeks as dipshit does after 4 and a half years.

[George Cumby]

His opinion on the matter carries next to no weight. Its not only "moving the goal posts" but it comes across as hysterical and attention starved. Came across this for those that are into this kind of thing:

Through 25 NFL starts:

Completion Percentage

Love: 63.6 percent. Rodgers: 63.7 percent. Favre: 63.5 percent.

Passing Yards

Love: 6,240. Rodgers: 6,482. Favre: 5,386.

Passing Touchdowns

Love: 48. Rodgers: 45. Favre: 31.

Touchdown percentage

Love: 5.7 percent. Rodgers: 5.4 percent. Favre: 3.8 percent.

Interceptions

Love: 22. Rodgers: 18. Favre: 30.

Interception percentage

Love: 2.4 percent. Rodgers: 2.2 percent. Favre: 3.7 percent.

Yards Per Attempt

Love: 7.5. Rodgers: 7.8. Favre: 6.6.

Passer Rating

Love: 94.4. Rodgers: 96.6. Favre: 79.7.

Record

Love: 14-11. Rodgers: 11-14. Favre: 15-9.

Pretty eye opening. If Love starts being a hair more careful with the ball, we're gonna' be just fine.

[George Cumby]

If Watson catches that TD pass, would it change Love to a stud?

[Joemailman]

If Watson catches that TD pass, would it change Love to a stud?

I put Love in the dud category because he was darn lucky to avoid needless turnovers. But it was probably an overreaction because he could just as easily have had 4 TD passes. Still think he's putting the ball in danger too much. I wonder what kind of grade Tom Clements gives him after a game like this, and whether it has any effect.

[George Cumby]

I put Love in the dud category because he was darn lucky to avoid needless turnovers. But it was probably an overreaction because he could just as easily have had 4 TD passes. Still think he's putting the ball in danger too much. I wonder what kind of grade Tom Clements gives him after a game like this, and whether it has any effect.

I don't disagree, at all.

[Teamcheez1]

Love is playing like the 4th best QB in our division. We didn’t pay him as a franchise QB to play middling football.
I believe he has the potential, but the results haven’t been there this year.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I put Love in the dud category because he was darn lucky to avoid needless turnovers. But it was probably an overreaction because he could just as easily have had 4 TD passes. Still think he's putting the ball in danger too much. I wonder what kind of grade Tom Clements gives him after a game like this, and whether it has any effect.

I just finished reviewing every play of this game via the condensed film.

Love made a tons of big 3rd down throws. The TD to Heath was Buttesque. Converted a 4th and 1 via QB draw. Accurate for the most part - drops and 50/50 contested catches lowered completion percentage. Packers had lead and short field after turnovers by D, so didn’t need to inflate passing yardage.

Only two turnover worthy plays: the deep pass to
Watson shortly after the Watson drop and the mini-fumble where Love pooped out rock for a second as he’s about to be sacked.

[ThunderDan]

I just finished reviewing every play of this game via the condensed film.

Love made a tons of big 3rd down throws. The TD to Heath was Buttesque. Converted a 4th and 1 via QB draw. Accurate for the most part - drops and 50/50 contested catches lowered completion percentage. Packers had lead and short field after turnovers by D, so didn’t need to inflate passing yardage.

Only two turnover worthy plays: the deep pass to
Watson shortly after the Watson drop and the mini-fumble where Love pooped out rock for a second as he’s about to be sacked.

Question for you.

Why is Love throwing so many 50/50 balls when he has players wide open in the flats and Kraft open across the middle?

[MadtownPacker]

Seems like all the expert analyst shows are coming down on Love a bit this morning. The general consensus is that the Pack would be the elite NFC team if you’re not for his bad decisions. Their point of the niners not being the same defense as last year has me agreeing a bit.

[MadtownPacker]

Pretty eye opening. If Love starts being a hair more careful with the ball, we're gonna' be just fine.
A hair? It better be a few feet long because that’s about the distance on some of these passes.

[RandsRevenge]

"Best $250 million turd there ever was."

Of the four qualifying Turds that I can think of: Dan Bongino (Dallas), Deshaun Watson (Cleveland), Trevor Lawrence (Jags), And Jordan Love, I have to say he's the best of these Turds. They all have had high performing stretches, but only Love and Lawrence really have any chance at recovery.

It was obvious yesterday that a lot of the calls Flower made were to protect Love from bad throws. And you can see from the looks they give each other especially after what I assume was a TO by Flower to stop a bad play, that there's some pretty good tension there. I like that Flower is doing everything he can to rescue Love from his own worst instincts. Dude still has a chance to be great if he accepts and gains from the really fine coaching he's getting.

[RandsRevenge]

Also, as noted previously, Willis looked just as comfortable running this offense after 2 weeks as dipshit does after 4 and a half years.

The one challenge I have to this perspective is that the offense with Love and Willis was run differently, and I don't think Willis is close to being let of the chain so to speak and allowed to toss the ball all over the field. The coaches knew he wasn't/isn't ready for that. Maybe he never will be.

It's clear that coach believes Love has a greater ceiling than Willis, and thus gives (has given) him more attempts to throw. But it's also clear Love isn't playing as well as they want, and so some of the more risky dangerous throws are being taken away in favor of runs or different passing play calls. Sorry I don't have replay so I can't replay break it down into specifics.

[SkinBasket]

Sorry I don't have replay so I can't replay break it down into specifics.

I should look at it too, because I was at the TEN game and it was hot and I was drunk. But the sense I got was that he wasn’t being held back and that he was in control. Granted, the titans aren’t good, and they play clips from 300 to celebrate plays, so they ain’t too smart either. As you point out, I’m sure mitigation was in place for Willis, but the point remains that Love obviously was jerking off for three years instead of learning from a HOFer or even learning the offense. A lot of fucktards here want to treat Love like a second year player. He isn’t. He was just too fucking retarded to want to learn anything the first three years. And he is the slowest half black man on the earth.

[SkinBasket]

Also, Nashville is about the best place to attend a GB away game if you like to drink. It doesn’t hurt that there’s like 200 actual Titans fans in the state.

[MadtownPacker]

Regardless of who is wrong or right you don’t get to come on here and make personal or racist attack comments like that. I am sure I disliked Rodgers more than you dislike Love but don’t recall ever saying about his race having to do with it. Just about his shitty and dbag behavior. Which you and just about everyone didn’t like me doing. Until you all did.

So hurry up and spew your thoughts. He might go off on the dolphins this Thursday and we wont see you again until after the playoffs. Like last season!! :wait:

[sharpe1027]

I wish fewer people would bother engaging with obvious trolls. It diminishes the effectiveness of blocking them.

[bobblehead]

Love is playing like the 4th best QB in our division. We didn’t pay him as a franchise QB to play middling football.
I believe he has the potential, but the results haven’t been there this year.

I'm going to disagree with you there....unless you have Willis at #2, then I can agree Love is 3rd.

[MadtownPacker]

I wish fewer people would bother engaging with obvious trolls. It diminishes the effectiveness of blocking them.
As the admin I have to engage all. Yeah most likely a just an agitator but he is stating his thoughts on the team. There’s no problem with that world or right. If he starts making it personal against Love, that’s a different story.

This isn’t gonna be the forum that allows that to go down.

[sharpe1027]

As the admin I have to engage all. Yeah most likely a just an agitator but he is stating his thoughts on the team. There’s no problem with that world or right. If he starts making it personal against Love, that’s a different story.

This isn’t gonna be the forum that allows that to go down.

It's not a big deal.

[MadtownPacker]

It's not a big deal.
Agreed. You brought it up so felt the need to explain.

[SkinBasket]

Agreed. You brought it up so felt the need to explain.

LOL. You guys are too much. Did you all make these posts after live chatting The View together?

[MadtownPacker]

What is the View and how do you live chat something?