Packers vs. Bears Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 108-95-6. 107-94-6 in regular season, 1-1 in postseason.

Last meeting: November 17, 2024. Packers defeated the Bears 20-19. Karl Brooks blocked a field goal on the game's last play to preserve the win. Jordan Love completed 13-17 passes for 261 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. Christian Watson caught 4 passes for 150 yards. Josh Jacobs had 134 total yards and 1 TD. For the Bears, Caleb Williams completed 23 of 31 passes for 231 yards and had 70 yards rushing.

The Bears come into this game 4-12, losers of 10 in a row. Offensively they come into this game ranked 29th in points scored and 32nd in yards gained. Caleb Williams has completed 62% of his passes for 3393 yards with 19 TD passes and 6 INT's. He has been sacked a league-leading 67 times. D'Andre Swift leads the Bears in rushing with 894 yards and 5 TD's, averaging just 3.8 YPC. D.J. Moore leads them in receiving with 89 catches for 880 yards and 5 TD's. Keenan Allen has 719 receiving yards and 7 TD's. Rome Odunze has 716 receiving yards and 3 TD's.

Defensively, the Bears rank 12th in points allowed and 25th in yards gained. Opposing QB's have completed 64% of passes for 3521 yards with just 17 TD's and 11 INT's. Opponents have rushed for 2134 yards and 18 TD's, averaging 4.7 YPC. The Bears have sacked opposing QB's 37 times.

Packers favored by 9.5

Moneyline: Bears +315, Packers -405

Over/under: 40.5

[Joemailman]

Will the Packers be up for this game? It comes 1 week after a disheartening loss and 1 week before the playoffs. The rivalry matter to us more than them.

[King Friday]

Sit the starters. There is no reason for anyone else to be concussed or dinged. For this team to have any chance to make noise, we need to be at full health.

[Fritz]

Sit the starters. There is no reason for anyone else to be concussed or dinged. For this team to have any chance to make noise, we need to be at full health.

Why, is the Packers' seeding already determined? I haven't kept up on that. But if it's not, a win might mean traveling to LA to play the Rams versus going to the madhouse that is Philly.

Besides, there is something to be said for being battle-tested. Wearing down da Bears last year for the season finale was a springboard to beating up on Dall-ass, methinks.

[Joemailman]

Why, is the Packers' seeding already determined? I haven't kept up on that. But if it's not, a win might mean traveling to LA to play the Rams versus going to the madhouse that is Philly.

Besides, there is something to be said for being battle-tested. Wearing down da Bears last year for the season finale was a springboard to beating up on Dall-ass, methinks.

Their seeding is determined unless you think the Cowboys can beat Washington. With Lamb out, Cowboys don't have much offense.

[Teamcheez1]

I can’t think of the last time I was this uninterested in a Packers - Bears game.

[MadtownPacker]

Sit the starters. There is no reason for anyone else to be concussed or dinged. For this team to have any chance to make noise, we need to be at full health.
What if they put Willis in and he lights the bears defense up? Hmmm….

[MadtownPacker]

Their seeding is determined unless you think the Cowboys can beat Washington. With Lamb out, Cowboys don't have much offense.
Division game so you never know.

[King Friday]

I see no real difference between playing LA or Philly. Why put any players of significance in danger of injury over it?

[George Cumby]

Do not sit starters.

Need to hit the post-season with momentum, IMO.

[MadScientist]

Split the difference. Starters play the first half, run up a 28 point lead, then sit the second.

[Joemailman]

It's a tough call. Last game of 2021 Packers played starters and started pulling them midway through 2nd quarter. But that was long enough for MVS to injure his hamstring. He was missed very much against the 49ers.

[King Friday]

Do not sit starters.

Need to hit the post-season with momentum, IMO.

Disagree entirely. They’ve played 16 games already. Beating a bottom feeder Bears team already working on tee times isn’t going to provide any real momentum. This is different from preseason, when guys haven’t played for months. This team has to be healthy going into this above ANYTHING else. If Jacobs or Love or Cooper pull a hammy in a meaningless game…yikes.

[Fosco33]

When has resting ever worked for the packers? Play anyone that isn’t needing a week extra. Ie, sit Jaire, Quay, Watson, etc. Go up 28 points and then hang on.

[Fosco33]

Disagree entirely. They’ve played 16 games already. Beating a bottom feeder Bears team already working on tee times isn’t going to provide any real momentum. This is different from preseason, when guys haven’t played for months. This team has to be healthy going into this above ANYTHING else. If Jacobs or Love or Cooper pull a hammy in a meaningless game…yikes.

If Washington loses and Packers win - it’s a 6 seed. So it’s not meaningless.

[Patler]

This team has not played well-enough to be coddled. They are inconsistent and seem to lack self-motivation. The starters have not earned a day off. Not saying they need to play the whole game, but they need to report for work. If they take care of business, they can leave work early. If not, they need to complete their shift even if it takes to the final whistle.

The fear of injury is consuming this league. It's a physical job, people get injured. If it happens, it happens. Live with it.

[King Friday]

When has resting ever worked for the packers? Play anyone that isn’t needing a week extra. Ie, sit Jaire, Quay, Watson, etc. Go up 28 points and then hang on.

It has worked plenty during bye weeks.

[Fosco33]

It has worked plenty during bye weeks.

I’m thinking resting before playoffs…. Smh

[King Friday]

I’m thinking resting before playoffs…. Smh

Not one player has ever been hurt by resting…. Smh

Our playoff defeats in recent years had little to do with rust. They all had to do with shitty defenses that would’ve let us down no matter what.

[Fosco33]

Not one player has ever been hurt by resting…. Smh

Our playoff defeats in recent years had little to do with rust. They all had to do with shitty defenses that would’ve let us down no matter what.

Tell that to the Devin Williams.

We have a playoff seed to play for. It’s not really a debate imo outside of resting injured players. Presuming the Cowboys will lose is perhaps the smart bet but that’s a loser mentality and not the way to coach or play the game. Vince would be rolling in his grave at the stupidity of this discussion.

Go beat the bears by halftime and we can debate who to sit for the 2nd half.

[Sparkey]

Watching Rhyan and Myers inside, I can't believe Jacobs has as many yards as he does. Those two are just brutal to watch.

This team is going no where with those two on the interior.

[ThunderDan]

Watching Rhyan and Myers inside, I can't believe Jacobs has as many yards as he does. Those two are just brutal to watch.

This team is going no where with those two on the interior.

The real issue is they are inconsistent. They do well on a lot of plays and they absolutely suck on a bunch of plays.

C and RG need to be upgraded. LT I am not sure on. Walker ain’t great but you don’t hear his name a lot for bad plays either.

[ThunderDan]

I hear the Packers are high on Monk. He could step in at C next year.

[Sparkey]

I believe they said the same thing about Myers....

[Rutnstrut]

Even if they get a good center they will let him walk after a few years.

[Fritz]

They do need upgrades at C and RG. I too am unsure of Walker. He gets pushed back an awful lot, but he's not horrible.

They won a fairly tight one last year, though it was clear that Justin Fields was just not going to do any damage downfield. Who knows what this contest will bring? But I would like to see Reed and Wicks have better games so they can regain some mojo for the playoffs.

[Joemailman]

‪Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel‬ ‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬
#Packers players not practicing Wednesday:

CB Jaire Alexander (knee)
LB Quay Walker (ankle)
WR Christian Watson (knee)
S Evan Williams (thigh)
S Zayne Anderson (concussion)
DE Brenton Cox Jr.
G Elgton Jenkins (knee-rest)
T Andre Dillard (concussion)

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬

LaFleur said based on how the mistakes the Packers made last week he thinks there's a good reason to play all his starters Sunday. "There's value to going out there and playing well," LaFleur said.

[Joemailman]

‪Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel‬ ‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬

#Packers coach Matt LaFleur said that CB Jaire Alexander will undergo surgery and will be done for the year. "He was trying to get his knee right and it wasn't getting right. It's a tough deal for everyone. It stinks that we're here, but we're here."

[King Friday]

Jaire is going to have to accept a below market deal at this point. He’ll probably be a steal for someone for a year, and then go back to being injured incessantly.

[texaspackerbacker]

We get the great majority of our rushing yards, not just Jacobs but Wilson and Brooks too, up the middle over Meyers and Rhyan, yet the whining and complaining about them continues.

[ThunderDan]

You do understand that we rarely of ever run straight up the middle.

They slant right or left. When Jacobs cuts back and goes for yardage it's because of the cut back lanes opened by the Ts and TEs not the C G combo.

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgPBVNAXoAANkAt?format=jpg&name=large

[Joemailman]

You do understand that we rarely of ever run straight up the middle.

They slant right or left. When Jacobs cuts back and goes for yardage it's because of the cut back lanes opened by the Ts and TEs not the C G combo.

You don't say.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/static-charts/900/carry-chart_JAC734615_2024-REG-17_1735518528142.jpeg

[RashanGary]

Hi guys, I wrote a song for Bears week. I’m getting weirder so trying not to bring my Antonio Brown type psychosis into the public much.

https://x.com/nflparodies/status/1874865687094809084?s=46&t=nQImf8h3Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

[George Cumby]

Hi guys, I wrote a song for Bears week. I’m getting weirder so trying not to bring my Antonio Brown type psychosis into the public much.

https://x.com/nflparodies/status/1874865687094809084?s=46&t=nQImf8h3Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

Hahahahahahha.

That was awesome.

[texaspackerbacker]

The solid majority of successful runs by Packer RBs are through the Center/Guard gaps - that's obvious. Virtually none of the pressure on the QB comes up the middle. Last game, a ton of it came from the outside - over Walter and Tom. The negativity about Meyers is wrongheaded.

[RashanGary]

https://x.com/nflparodies/status/1874936230070333916?s=46&t=nQImf8h3Oxzq2_jOx_kBGw

I made it less friendly

[RashanGary]

Packers in great shape heading down the stretch.


Bullard can dial in on safety now. Stokes is playing the best ball of his career. Valentine is a really good player. Nixon is alright too.

We have 5 defensive backs who can play. Six of Evan Williams makes it back.


So long as we don’t get more injured, we’re about to make our run.

[Joemailman]

No change on injury report for Packers.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgUVI1nWQAAcZxo?format=jpg&name=large

[Teamcheez1]

We were led to believe Watson had a simple knee bruise.

[Joemailman]

We were led to believe Watson had a simple knee bruise.

Maybe he does.

A bruised knee will usually heal within around 2–4 weeks. A bone bruise may take as long as 1–2 months or longer if the bruise is large.

Maybe they just want to make sure he's 100% for the playoffs.

[Rutnstrut]

We were led to believe Watson had a simple knee bruise.

His history has shown that what is a simple injury for others is chronic for him.

[Fosco33]

On rest vs rust… a recent CFB example

Each lower seeded team just won in the quarterfinals of the college football bracket after going chaulk in blowouts in opening round. Hmm

[King Friday]

On rest vs rust… a recent CFB example

Each lower seeded team just won in the quarterfinals of the college football bracket after going chaulk in blowouts in opening round. Hmm

Or maybe the seeding was just colossally fucked beyond all reason? On top of that, college has way more than just a one week break. Georgia last played on Dec 7. They almost had a full month between games.

[Fosco33]

Or maybe the seeding was just colossally fucked beyond all reason? On top of that, college has way more than just a one week break. Georgia last played on Dec 7. They almost had a full month between games.

Hence they were rusty and could’ve used a tune up game. Not saying it’s definitive, causal or even that comparable to the NFL. We’ll see how it plays out in CFB over time.

[King Friday]

Hence they were rusty and could’ve used a tune up game. Not saying it’s definitive, causal or even that comparable to the NFL. We’ll see how it plays out in CFB over time.

Or they didn’t have their starting QB. Georgia was a MASH unit even with the time off, so I expect the Lions to suffer a similar fate.

[Joemailman]

Fox Early - Midwest and northern plains will get Chicago at Green Bay. Kevin Kugler and Daryl Johnston with the call. Much of west, including Alaska, and much of east will get New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Kevin Burkhardt and Tom Brady with the call. Southwest and Virginia area will get Washington at Dallas. Adam Amin and Mark Sanchez with the call.

https://506sports.com/2024/18-FOX-E.png

[Joemailman]

‪Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel‬ ‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬

Packers coach Matt LaFleur said WR Christian Watson was limited in practice and will be a gameday decision.

[Joemailman]

Williams, Walker, Dillard, Zayne Anderson and Alexander out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgZfStbWoAAkYMG?format=jpg&name=900x900

[MadtownPacker]

Fox Early - Midwest and northern plains will get Chicago at Green Bay. Kevin Kugler and Daryl Johnston with the call. Much of west, including Alaska, and much of east will get New Orleans at Tampa Bay. Kevin Burkhardt and Tom Brady with the call. Southwest and Virginia area will get Washington at Dallas. Adam Amin and Mark Sanchez with the call.

https://506sports.com/2024/18-FOX-E.png
Damn this is only the 3rd or 4th game this season that hasn’t been national.

[CaptainKickass]

Crazy shit if this is accurate math:




The Lions, Vikings & Packers are now a combined 34-4 against all teams that aren't Lions, Vikings and Packers

[Joemailman]

Crazy shit if this is accurate math:



Quote Originally Posted by The God Damn Internet

The Lions, Vikings & Packers are now a combined 34-4 against all teams that aren't Lions, Vikings and Packers

If it's on the God Damn Internet it must be true - Quote by Thomas Jefferson.

[CaptainKickass]

Potential Barney Fuckdoggle Alert?

LB Michael Barrett, S Omar Brown elevated from the practice squad

[Joemailman]

Romeo Doubs questionable tomorrow with an illness.

[Freak Out]

Alaska gets the South? Fucking FOX blasphemy.

[MadtownPacker]

Fuck, where is that aaaahole Bretsky?? Need the game day thread started by someone that hasn’t done it this season.

[Fritz]

Romeo Doubs questionable tomorrow with an illness.

Is this - and the whole injury report - just The Flower's way of resting many of his starters while pretending he's going to play the starters?

I'd like to see what Bo Melton can do.