More Banjo - Packers vs Bears

[Joemailman]

Love and Watson hurt.

First loss to Bears for MLF.

Packers finish 1-5 in NFCN.

Emanuel Wilson - 73 rushing yards 1 TD.

Bears 7-14 on 3rd down, Packers 3-10

Game did not matter in standings as Washington won.

Discuss.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Washington winning makes me feel just a tad better about the sloppy Packers, well, on second thought.

[pittstang5]

Granted Washington won, but to play like the Packers did today, at home, against the shitty Bears, is still demoralizing. The passing game was just way off today. Now to play the Eagles, this season is over.

[MadtownPacker]

A doink away from being 0-6 in the division is not cool!! What the hell Matt Pepe LePew??

Love is making the nefarious skinbasket a prophet like some cheap horror flick. Truly a dark day.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Fire everybody...

[Joemailman]

Unless something unexpected happens in the playoffs, the offensive staff will have a lot of problems to attack in the offseason.

[Bretsky]

Unless something unexpected happens in the playoffs, the offensive staff will have a lot of problems to attack in the offseason.

Meanwhile, we'll draft 3 CB's in the first 5 rounds.

In reality we should probably draft a WR in round one and a running back who is s serious threat as a receiver

[Teamcheez1]

We beat up on a bunch of patsies during the season.
The two quality wins: The Rams had half their team out and the Texans are as directionless as we are.
Our record is better, but I would argue we are not as good as the team that entered the playoffs last year.

[Teamcheez1]

Meanwhile, we'll draft 3 CB's in the first 5 rounds.

In reality we should probably draft a WR in round one and a running back who is s serious threat as a receiver

I would not be dissatisfied at all if we draft a receiver in the early rounds. Watson and others may not be here after next year.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I am happy with McManus, very consistent kicker. Very happy with Jacobs. I like Tucker Kraft. Just not sure about Love yet.

[mgordo]

We beat up on a bunch of patsies during the season.
The two quality wins: The Rams had half their team out and the Texans are as directionless as we are.
Our record is better, but I would argue we are not as good as the team that entered the playoffs last year.

This.. I see a season with zero quality wins. Maybe Seattle but that’s about it.

[King Friday]

It is very telling that the teams that have seen a lot of MLF in the North owned him this year. His offensive play calling has been lackluster. Rarely have I seen a new wrinkle where I stop and think “wow, that was impressive”. Those have been there in the past, but have been almost non existent this season.

Unless MLF suddenly brings out the goodies once the playoffs start, this is going to be a quick exit. Our WRs have largely been exposed as incapable against man defense. WR jet sweeps do not get it done at the NFL level if you are going to run it multiple times every week. Refusing to coach up your QBs to pull the ball and run when 5+ yards are available is asinine, and being entirely incapable of running slant patterns is immensely frustrating. Love is going to have a lot to prove in a week.

[Massive J]

It is very telling that the teams that have seen a lot of MLF in the North owned him this year. His offensive play calling has been lackluster. Rarely have I seen a new wrinkle where I stop and think “wow, that was impressive”. Those have been there in the past, but have been almost non existent this season.

Unless MLF suddenly brings out the goodies once the playoffs start, this is going to be a quick exit. Our WRs have largely been exposed as incapable against man defense. WR jet sweeps do not get it done at the NFL level if you are going to run it multiple times every week. Refusing to coach up your QBs to pull the ball and run when 5+ yards are available is asinine, and being entirely incapable of running slant patterns is immensely frustrating. Love is going to have a lot to prove in a week.

Absolutely. This is a great take.

[Fosco33]

Where was Jacob’s? We really needed him in the 2nd half.

Lots of shitty 3rd down passes behind the line to gain. Questionable 2pt conversion. Questionable end of game management. If you’re gonna kick the FG - why take the timeout w/ anything less than 1 sec on the clock.

Punt coverage or the directional punt issue is unexplainable…

Why was Watson playing? I said they should rest anyone that needs it (including Watson).

All in all a really shitty game.

[Fosco33]

This.. I see a season with zero quality wins. Maybe Seattle but that’s about it.

Rams, Houston? Arizona?

Agree - we haven’t beaten any really good team.

[King Friday]

Where was Jacob’s? We really needed him in the 2nd half.

After the Watson and Love injuries, there was little chance Jacobs was going to stay out there. This is why I’m not a fan of trying to make this game out to be meaningful when it really wasn’t. It’s clear it wasn’t, because the play on the field proved it. Better to rest your guys and stay healthy. Instead, we now have even LESS momentum and injuries. Great stuff.

[Fosco33]

After the Watson and Love injuries, there was little chance Jacobs was going to stay out there. This is why I’m not a fan of trying to make this game out to be meaningful when it really wasn’t. It’s clear it wasn’t, because the play on the field proved it. Better to rest your guys and stay healthy. Instead, we now have even LESS momentum and injuries. Great stuff.

Well cowboys were 5sec away from winning or a tie/OT and we’d have been playing TB if Rams lose.

[RandsRevenge]

Does anyone remember why the Bears let their HC go in the middle of the season?

Just checking.

[Bretsky]

What the F'ck was up with our clock management at the end of the game. IF we are going to go ahead and kick a FG you have to manage the clock better than that.

Yes, I get it, our F'ck up defense should never give up that yardage to a shit offesne; but bottom line is we do over and over across the years so why give the opportunity

[Teamcheez1]

MLF took blame during the postgame press conference.
Total blunder on his part.
At least he won a challenge this season.

[Bretsky]

MLF took blame during the postgame press conference.
Total blunder on his part.
At least he won a challenge this season.


Odds are that mismanagement will cost us a deeper run in the playoffs. I think we're one and done as Phily is not a kind matchup

[Joemailman]

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬

Packers quarterback Jordan Love said he still has loss of feeling in his right hand after hitting his elbow on the turf. But he said he was told the feeling would come back and coach Matt LaFleur said that he would be ready for Philadelphia next week.

[MadtownPacker]

Thought it looked like a charlie horse. He will be fine after a day of two and a happy ending massage.

After a nap I am good with the Philly matchup. Back to where week 1 should have started in this great and terrible season.

[King Friday]

In the end, the Packers had no idea what they wanted to do in this game. That is almost always a recipe for disaster in the NFL if the other team is coming out focused and ready to play.

If you are going to treat the game like a preseason game, then do so. When nothing happened the first 2-3 drives, everyone should have been taken out. The Packers got extremely lucky to escape with what appears to be only one major injury. Next time, don’t play anyone, get a week of rest and extra prep time getting ready for Philly, which is what the highly likely scenario would have been. Instead, we got the worst coaching performance I’ve seen in Green Bay for years and our deep threat WR injured for 10 months. We are now less prepared and ready to take on Philly. It wasn’t worth it.

[Teamcheez1]

I was so looking forward to watching the sports talk shows this morning while drinking coffee and watching the snow accumulate.
Instead we’re left with the bitter taste of a loss to the Bears.
Our confidence going into the playoffs is low.
The strength of our team was supposed to be our QB and an up and coming receiving corps.
Doubts are creeping in that we have to win in spite of them not because of them.
I need Love with MLF to take control of this offense

[PackPhin]

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
‪@tspoon62.bsky.social‬

Packers quarterback Jordan Love said he still has loss of feeling in his right hand after hitting his elbow on the turf. But he said he was told the feeling would come back and coach Matt LaFleur said that he would be ready for Philadelphia next week.

Ulnar nerve contusion. Symptoms resolve within hours with no lasting effects. Should be good to go for Philly.
I'm not an Orthopedic Surgeon, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

[Sparkey]

Meaningless game that has a meaningful injury. Such is the NFL.

Glad I went tubing at Sunburst instead of watching what sounds like was a craptastic game.

Packers @ Philly. 18 weeks to come full circle.

[MadtownPacker]

Ulnar nerve contusion. Symptoms resolve within hours with no lasting effects. Should be good to go for Philly.
I'm not an Orthopedic Surgeon, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Yep. Made it so he couldn’t grip. Pressure point type of hit.

[Joemailman]

Meaningless game that has a meaningful injury. Such is the NFL.

Glad I went tubing at Sunburst instead of watching what sounds like was a craptastic game.

Packers @ Philly. 18 weeks to come full circle.

So you were sliding downhill all day. Kinda like the Packers Super Bowl chances.

[Fosco33]

Meaningless game that has a meaningful injury. Such is the NFL.

Glad I went tubing at Sunburst instead of watching what sounds like was a craptastic game.

Packers @ Philly. 18 weeks to come full circle.

Shit. We’re probably neighbors - I live in Wash Cty

[PackPhin]

Also, Watson most definitely tore his ACL.
Non-contact, pivoted as he was coming out of his break.
Hopefully no meniscus or cartilage damage.

[call_me_ishmael]

Watson is such a china doll. Man that dude is as injury prone as they come. This is the dude they traded Devante for, and he has never put up more than 650 yards in a season. It's hard not to be disappointed in that.

[texaspackerbacker]

Is an ACL a sure thing for Watson, or just fan speculation?

[Joemailman]

Is an ACL a sure thing for Watson, or just fan speculation?

Haven't heard anything. A lot of times if it's an ACL you hear about it pretty quickly. It's fairly easy to diagnose. So I'm holding out some hope that it's not. Whatever the case, I'd say he's done for this year.

[Joemailman]

ACL for Watson. Probably be back in November.

[Teamcheez1]

2025 is Watson’s contract year.
Don’t see him getting an extension at all during next season.
Not sure we should offer much of a contract at the end of next season.
It’s the business side of the NFL.

[run pMc]

Doubs being sick forced MLF to play Watson, and now he's done. No matter what you do there MLF is going to catch hell.

Rappaport reporting the rumor Watson has an ACL injury plus other possible damage. Tough break for him, especially after he seemed to solve his hamstring issues.
Too soon to talk about his contract, I could see that going a few different ways but they will want to see how he recovers.

Either way, I think we've determined that Bo Melton is probably not a long term replacement for Watson, and they should probably look at the draft or for a cheap FA option.

Also - WTH happened to Jayden Reed? He was off to a good start and has basically turned into a pumpkin. it's like he traded hands with Wicks. Also, the jet sweeps to him haven't really worked in a long time; I feel like defenses have seen it enough to defend it well. Scheme the dude open for something where he can catch and run.

[Fritz]

Doubs being sick forced MLF to play Watson, and now he's done. No matter what you do there MLF is going to catch hell.

Rappaport reporting the rumor Watson has an ACL injury plus other possible damage. Tough break for him, especially after he seemed to solve his hamstring issues.
Too soon to talk about his contract, I could see that going a few different ways but they will want to see how he recovers.

Either way, I think we've determined that Bo Melton is probably not a long term replacement for Watson, and they should probably look at the draft or for a cheap FA option.

Also - WTH happened to Jayden Reed? He was off to a good start and has basically turned into a pumpkin. it's like he traded hands with Wicks. Also, the jet sweeps to him haven't really worked in a long time; I feel like defenses have seen it enough to defend it well. Scheme the dude open for something where he can catch and run.


I don't know why, but in the bathroom this morning I couldn't stop thinking about how the Packers have been playing for the last few weeks.

https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/article30083506.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Bowel-splitting-giant-turd-uncovered-at-motorway-services-sets-Twitter-alight.jpg

[Joemailman]

Easton Butler
@Easton__Butler

Update: The Packers will be sending RB Marshawn Lloyd to the Badger Athletic Performance facility at UW-Madison, per Tom Silverstein. This is the same facility that Christian Watson and Eric Stokes were sent to last offseason to solve the issue with their hamstrings. Lloyd has suffered a hamstring, hip and an ankle injury in his rookie year.

[Sparkey]

Shit. We’re probably neighbors - I live in Wash Cty
Went to High School in Random Lake. Reside just outside of Sheboygan now.

Howdy Neighbor!

[Fritz]

Easton Butler
@Easton__Butler

Update: The Packers will be sending RB Marshawn Lloyd to the Badger Athletic Performance facility at UW-Madison, per Tom Silverstein. This is the same facility that Christian Watson and Eric Stokes were sent to last offseason to solve the issue with their hamstrings. Lloyd has suffered a hamstring, hip and an ankle injury in his rookie year.

You got nothing from this guy this season, and next-to-nothing from the first round pick. And some special teams production from your third round linebacker.

[run pMc]

You got nothing from this guy this season, and next-to-nothing from the first round pick. And some special teams production from your third round linebacker.

I suspect if Gute could have a do-over he'd rethink taking Morgan over either Barton or Dejean, Lloyd over Jarrian Jones, and Hopper over Peyton Wilson. He's going to say he likes his guys and I'm sure he does, but with hindsight being 20/20 and some truth serum he might fess up.
Meh, every GM falls into that category. He really needs to nail this next one, none of this Stokes-Myers-Amari 2021 crap.
(Also: woof, 2021 was a bad draft... only ones left are Slaton and McDuffie. Lotta teams had some bad whiffs; MIN and CHI had bad drafts, DET had a very very good draft)

Sending Lloyd to Madison can't hurt, dude has had several different injuries, maybe he needs to figure out why. I still have some hope that he can be a change-of-pace back, but time and patience will run out, especially if he can't get on the field. The 2025 RB draft is much better than last year.

[sharpe1027]

This draft class was very good despite the injuries to Morgan and Lloyd, and they might still come good. I don't think Hopper will ever be more than a special teams guy, but what do I know?

[Joemailman]

Really hard to grade this draft because of all the injuries. 4 guys from this draft started games, and all looked the part, but even they missed time with injuries. Hopper was the only pick I really didn't like. Seemed like a reach. Maybe he'll prove us wrong, but it's notable Quay's injury didn't get him much playing time.

[sharpe1027]

Always premature to judge after one year, but Cooper, Williams, and Bullard all knocked it out of the park for being rookies. Three rookies that are starters or close. That's a solid draft.

[run pMc]

Always premature to judge after one year, but Cooper, Williams, and Bullard all knocked it out of the park for being rookies. Three rookies that are starters or close. That's a solid draft.

Agree, and I think one of Morgan/Monk has a chance to stick.

[Fritz]

Always premature to judge after one year, but Cooper, Williams, and Bullard all knocked it out of the park for being rookies. Three rookies that are starters or close. That's a solid draft.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree. I mean, somebody's got to start, and if you get starters but they're "meh," how good is that? Now, I think Cooper and Williams are going to be good, good players - definitely - but to me, Bullard did not knock it out of the park. He seems like just a guy to me. Can he get better? Of course. But to me, he didn't flash much.

[call_me_ishmael]

Is Bullard any good? I feel like I never really notice that dude.

[Sparkey]

Oladapo has played better. Given that he is a better run defender, I would not be surprised to see him on the field this Sunday.

[Joemailman]

Oladapo has played better. Given that he is a better run defender, I would not be surprised to see him on the field this Sunday.

They might both play. Bullard's best position is slot corner. Oladapo will play if Evan Williams is still out. Both played most of the snaps last week.

[sharpe1027]

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree. I mean, somebody's got to start, and if you get starters but they're "meh," how good is that? Now, I think Cooper and Williams are going to be good, good players - definitely - but to me, Bullard did not knock it out of the park. He seems like just a guy to me. Can he get better? Of course. But to me, he didn't flash much.

Yeah, Bullard isn't in the knock out of the park category. He's still been a good pick. I think the Packers are in the top 10 maybe the top 5 in rookie production this year despite their #1 pick being out for most of the year.

[Bretsky]

This draft class was very good despite the injuries to Morgan and Lloyd, and they might still come good. I don't think Hopper will ever be more than a special teams guy, but what do I know?


Caleb Wiliams and Cooper were studs. I think Bulluck was pretty good.

The rest.....JAG's so far. Morgan may take a while to develop. I think initially he's been disappoining.

[Joemailman]

Caleb Wiliams and Cooper were studs. I think Bulluck was pretty good.

The rest.....JAG's so far. Morgan may take a while to develop. I think initially he's been disappoining.

Caleb?:-D

[Bretsky]

Caleb?:-D

oh god it's been a long day

[MadtownPacker]

Caleb?:-D
I have noticed a lot of us have done similar the last few years, myself included. Are we all just old fuks now?

[sharpe1027]

I have noticed a lot of us have done similar the last few years, myself included. Are we all just old fuks now?

I'm not JUST an old fuck. I'm also a asshole.

[Patler]

Are we all just old fuks now?

Now??? Some of us always have been.

[ThunderDan]

oh god it's been a long day

Just call him The Bourbon and you don’t have to remember his first name.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I have noticed a lot of us have done similar the last few years, myself included. Are we all just old fuks now?

Have been, for about a decade or so.

[MadtownPacker]

I'm not JUST an old fuck. I'm also an asshole.
Yeah but that’s always been the case!

[MadtownPacker]

Now??? Some of us always have been.
Yeah I wonder how many if any posters have passed away since 2006. Their account forever haunting PackerRats never to be active again.

[MadtownPacker]

Have been, for about a decade or so.
We are gonna have to get you on the Gold&Green Rat Memorial plan for 10 cents a day your account can be protected ensuring your loved ones can log on after you are gone.

[Fritz]

If there’s a deceased Rat poster named Richard Cheese, I want to take over that account.

[texaspackerbacker]

We are gonna have to get you on the Gold&Green Rat Memorial plan for 10 cents a day your account can be protected ensuring your loved ones can log on after you are gone.

How would you know? Maybe I'm dead, and this is my grandson who knew my password. If it was really me, I probably wouldn't have been as nice as I've been lately hahahaha.

[MadtownPacker]

If there’s a deceased Rat poster named Richard Cheese, I want to take over that account.
Only if they were on the bench. The standards are low here so everyone who actually posted makes the HOF.

[MadtownPacker]

How would you know? Maybe I'm dead, and this is my grandson who knew my password. If it was really me, I probably wouldn't have been as nice as I've been lately hahahaha.
That is exactly what I would like to see happen. A family member with login. Then he could inform the forum of how you got taken out. Rats would then react appropriately.

Oh I think you will be plenty nice until that time comes.

[smuggler]

https://youtu.be/ukFhmf9Hg-U

[Fritz]

Awesome, Smuggler!