Is KGB overpaid?

[Tony Oday]

Position
2005 DE

Player Team Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value
Ellis, Shaun Jets $ 540,000 $ 7,000,000 $ 1,050,000 $ 8,590,000 $ 3,823,333
Okeafor, Chike Cardinals $ 3,500,000 $ 4,500,000 $ 1,210 $ 8,001,210 $ 4,401,210
Howard, Darren Saints $ 7,804,000 $ 0 $ 3,740 $ 7,807,740 $ 7,807,740
Hayward, Reggie Jaguars $ 550,000 $ 0 $ 7,003,080 $ 7,553,080 $ 7,553,080
Abraham, John Jets $ 6,666,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 6,666,000 $ 6,666,000
Peppers, Julius Panthers $ 455,000 $ 5,710,000 $ 150,000 $ 6,315,000 $ 4,007,500
Ogunleye, Adewale Bears $ 1,014,305 $ 0 $ 5,003,850 $ 6,018,155 $ 7,677,010
Rice, Simeon Buccaneers $ 6,000,000 $ 0 $ 880 $ 6,000,880 $ 10,700,880
Carter, Kevin Dolphins $ 1,000,000 $ 4,500,000 $ 500,000 $ 6,000,000 $ 2,400,000
Burgess, Derrick Raiders $ 455,000 $ 5,000,000 $ 0 $ 5,455,000 $ 1,455,000
Strahan, Michael Giants $ 5,250,000 $ 0 $ 330 $ 5,250,330 $ 7,478,615
Kerney, Patrick Falcons $ 4,450,000 $ 0 $ 250,000 $ 4,700,000 $ 5,914,285
Seymour, Richard Patriots $ 2,870,000 $ 1,700,000 $ 1,320 $ 4,571,320 $ 5,265,320
Pryce, Trevor Broncos $ 3,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,500,000 $ 4,500,000 $ 6,266,666
Hicks, Eric Chiefs $ 1,000,000 $ 3,000,000 $ 400,000 $ 4,400,000 $ 2,500,000
Taylor, Jason Dolphins $ 3,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,270,000 $ 4,270,000 $ 7,859,583
Berry, Bertrand Cardinals $ 4,000,000 $ 0 $ 4,730 $ 4,004,730 $ 5,004,730
Little, Leonard Rams $ 2,900,000 $ 0 $ 1,100,000 $ 4,000,000 $ 5,000,000
Rucker, Mike Panthers $ 3,150,000 $ 0 $ 650,000 $ 3,800,000 $ 5,724,000
Smith, Aaron Steelers $ 3,750,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 3,754,400 $ 5,115,066
Roye, Orpheus Browns $ 2,250,000 $ 0 $ 1,500,000 $ 3,750,000 $ 5,187,500
Smith, Will Saints $ 305,000 $ 3,350,000 $ 0 $ 3,655,000 $ 1,727,500
Wynn, Renaldo Redskins $ 665,000 $ 2,835,000 $ 4,840 $ 3,504,840 $ 2,198,173
Green, Jarvis Patriots $ 455,000 $ 3,000,000 $ 4,620 $ 3,459,620 $ 1,059,620
Udeze, Kenechi Vikings $ 305,250 $ 2,780,000 $ 0 $ 3,085,250 $ 1,708,875
Kearse, Jevon Eagles $ 890,000 $ 0 $ 2,125,000 $ 3,015,000 $ 5,015,000
Fisher, Bryce Seahawks $ 1,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 5,280 $ 3,005,280 $ 1,505,280
Spires, Greg Buccaneers $ 665,000 $ 2,335,000 $ 3,960 $ 3,003,960 $ 1,135,960
Schobel, Aaron Bills $ 1,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 1,320 $ 3,001,320 $ 2,567,986
Ellis, Greg Cowboys $ 2,250,000 $ 0 $ 305,280 $ 2,555,280 $ 3,155,280
Smith, Brady Falcons $ 2,500,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 2,504,840 $ 3,129,840
Bowens, David Dolphins $ 600,000 $ 1,300,000 $ 400,000 $ 2,300,000 $ 1,900,000
Hamilton, Bobby Raiders $ 665,000 $ 1,600,000 $ 1,320 $ 2,266,320 $ 986,320
Hall, James Lions $ 2,250,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 2,256,160 $ 3,056,160
Walker, Gary Texans $ 2,200,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 2,206,160 $ 4,039,493
Johnstone, Lance Vikings $ 2,075,000 $ 0 $ 104,290 $ 2,179,290 $ 2,179,290
Gbaja-Biamila, Kabe Packers $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,030,280 $ 2,030,280 $ 3,601,708
Ekuban, Ebenezer Broncos $ 540,000 $ 1,460,000 $ 5,060 $ 2,005,060 $ 1,031,726
Wistrom, Grant Seahawks $ 2,000,000 $ 0 $ 3,080 $ 2,003,080 $ 4,336,413
Kalu, Ndukwe Eagles $ 1,950,000 $ 0 $ 2,310 $ 1,952,310 $ 2,192,310
Smith, Justin Bengals $ 1,830,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 1,830,000 $ 3,350,000
Brown, Courtney Broncos $ 540,000 $ 1,260,000 $ 5,830 $ 1,805,830 $ 797,830
Douglas, Marques 49ers $ 750,000 $ 1,000,000 $ 1,100 $ 1,751,100 $ 1,084,433
Kirschke, Travis Steelers $ 665,000 $ 835,000 $ 3,080 $ 1,503,080 $ 1,221,413
Brock, Raheem Colts $ 1,430,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 1,435,280 $ 1,435,280
Roth, Matt Dolphins $ 230,000 $ 985,000 $ 170,000 $ 1,385,000 $ 597,000
Johnson, Travis Texans $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 1,060,000 $ 1,290,000 $ 1,290,000
Engelberger, John Broncos $ 1,265,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 1,265,000 $ 1,265,000
Spears, Marcus Cowboys $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 1,000,000 $ 1,230,000 $ 1,230,000
James, Erasmus Vikings $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 1,000,000 $ 1,230,000 $ 1,230,000
Kampman, Aaron Packers $ 700,000 $ 500,000 $ 5,280 $ 1,205,280 $ 1,205,280
Smith, Robaire Texans $ 1,200,000 $ 0 $ 3,520 $ 1,203,520 $ 2,595,186
Cody, Dan Ravens $ 230,000 $ 760,000 $ 150,000 $ 1,140,000 $ 570,000
Odom, Antwan Titans $ 305,000 $ 802,500 $ 4,510 $ 1,112,010 $ 577,012
Daniels, Phillip Redskins $ 665,000 $ 440,000 $ 4,950 $ 1,109,950 $ 1,379,950
Spicer, Paul Jaguars $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 1,004,840 $ 1,254,840
Coleman, Marco Broncos $ 1,000,000 $ 0 $ 1,760 $ 1,001,760 $ 1,001,760
Wallace, Al Panthers $ 540,000 $ 435,000 $ 25,000 $ 1,000,000 $ 973,750
LaBoy, Travis Titans $ 305,000 $ 660,000 $ 4,510 $ 969,510 $ 739,512
Tuck, Justin Giants $ 230,000 $ 737,000 $ 0 $ 967,000 $ 414,250
Clemons, Duane Bengals $ 955,882 $ 0 $ 0 $ 955,882 $ 1,222,548
Ioane, Junior Texans $ 540,000 $ 300,000 $ 4,840 $ 844,840 $ 644,840
Bryant, Tony Saints $ 540,000 $ 250,000 $ 25,000 $ 815,000 $ 690,000
DeVries, Jared Lions $ 750,000 $ 0 $ 55,280 $ 805,280 $ 1,080,280
Wiley, Marcellus Jaguars $ 665,000 $ 125,000 $ 4,840 $ 794,840 $ 794,840
Jackson, Tyoka Rams $ 765,000 $ 0 $ 5,500 $ 770,500 $ 837,168
Hall, Travis 49ers $ 765,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 765,000 $ 455,000
Freeney, Dwight Colts $ 600,000 $ 0 $ 153,080 $ 753,080 $ 1,933,794
Coleman, Kenyon Cowboys $ 715,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 719,840 $ 719,840
McKinley, Alvin Browns $ 650,000 $ 0 $ 50,000 $ 700,000 $ 750,000
Rasmussen, Kemp Panthers $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 661,720 $ 661,720
Kolodziej, Ross Cardinals $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 5,610 $ 661,610 $ 661,610
Scott, DeQuincy Chargers $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 5,390 $ 661,390 $ 661,390
Evans, Demetric Redskins $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 661,280 $ 661,280
Keisel, Brett Steelers $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 660,840 $ 660,840
Hall, Carlos Chiefs $ 656,000 $ 0 $ 3,630 $ 659,630 $ 659,630
Grant, Charles Saints $ 591,250 $ 0 $ 50,000 $ 641,250 $ 1,326,250
Thomas, Bryan Jets $ 581,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 585,400 $ 1,530,400
Powell, Carl Bengals $ 540,000 $ 25,000 $ 5,390 $ 570,390 $ 485,390
Thomas, Juqua Eagles $ 540,000 $ 0 $ 0 $ 540,000 $ 455,000
Canty, Chris Cowboys $ 230,000 $ 310,000 $ 0 $ 540,000 $ 292,000
Davis, Chauncey Falcons $ 230,000 $ 299,500 $ 0 $ 529,500 $ 329,833
Haynes, Michael Bears $ 500,000 $ 0 $ 4,290 $ 504,290 $ 2,025,178
Warren, Ty Patriots $ 495,000 $ 0 $ 4,620 $ 499,620 $ 2,032,953
Edwards, Kalimba Lions $ 490,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 494,840 $ 919,840
Vanden Bosch, Kyle Titans $ 455,000 $ 25,000 $ 4,290 $ 484,290 $ 484,290
Tafoya, Joe Seahawks $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 460,720 $ 460,720
Weaver, Tony Ravens $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 5,170 $ 460,170 $ 775,170
Brown, Alex Bears $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 4,290 $ 459,290 $ 1,373,385
Denney, Ryan Bills $ 455,000 $ 0 $ 3,410 $ 458,410 $ 695,910
Bailey, Rodney Seahawks $ 428,235 $ 0 $ 0 $ 428,235 $ 428,235
Suggs, Terrell Ravens $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 25,330 $ 405,330 $ 2,111,580
Cole, Trent Eagles $ 230,000 $ 173,000 $ 0 $ 403,000 $ 273,250
Williams, Sam Raiders $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 386,160 $ 531,560
Johnson, Jarret Ravens $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 386,160 $ 490,160
Peterson, Kenny Packers $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 385,720 $ 550,720
King, Kenny Cardinals $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,610 $ 385,610 $ 426,610
Redding, Cory Lions $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 385,280 $ 566,448
Mathis, Robert Colts $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 385,280 $ 427,530
Cesaire, Jacques Chargers $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 385,280 $ 385,280
White, DeWayne Buccaneers $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 4,950 $ 384,950 $ 621,800
Kelsay, Chris Bills $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 384,840 $ 728,590
Wilkerson, Jimmy Chiefs $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 4,510 $ 384,510 $ 407,010
Umenyiora, Osi Giants $ 380,000 $ 0 $ 3,850 $ 383,850 $ 675,100
Olshansky, Igor Chargers $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 74,510 $ 379,510 $ 754,510
Welsh, Jonathan Colts $ 230,000 $ 127,765 $ 0 $ 357,765 $ 272,588
Montgomery, Mike Packers $ 230,000 $ 102,000 $ 0 $ 332,000 $ 255,500
Moore, Eric Giants $ 230,000 $ 94,250 $ 0 $ 324,250 $ 253,562
Hill, Marquise Patriots $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 311,160 $ 541,160
Hargrove, Tony Rams $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 311,160 $ 458,493
Thomas, Josh Colts $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 6,160 $ 311,160 $ 314,493
Geathers, Robert Bengals $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 310,720 $ 411,053
McCray, Bobby Jaguars $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 5,280 $ 310,280 $ 318,446
Schobel, Bo Titans $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 5,060 $ 310,060 $ 423,060
Scott, Darrion Vikings $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 309,840 $ 459,840
Kelly, Tommy Raiders $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,840 $ 309,840 $ 314,840
Allen, Jared Chiefs $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,620 $ 309,620 $ 403,786
Johnson, Spencer Vikings $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,620 $ 309,620 $ 314,620
Eason, Nick Browns $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,620 $ 309,620 $ 309,620
Johnson, Trevor Jets $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 309,400 $ 318,950
Idonije, Israel Bears $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 4,400 $ 309,400 $ 309,400
Swancutt, Bill Lions $ 230,000 $ 79,000 $ 0 $ 309,000 $ 256,333
Jenkins, Cullen Packers $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 3,850 $ 308,850 $ 308,850
Green, Brandon Rams $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 3,190 $ 308,190 $ 308,190
Green, Roderick Ravens $ 305,000 $ 0 $ 2,420 $ 307,420 $ 345,753
Haye, Jovan Panthers $ 230,000 $ 74,750 $ 0 $ 304,750 $ 254,916
Long, Khari Chiefs $ 230,000 $ 65,200 $ 0 $ 295,200 $ 251,733
Fanene, Jonathan Bengals $ 230,000 $ 35,275 $ 0 $ 265,275 $ 241,758
Huckeba, Jeb Seahawks $ 135,000 $ 120,500 $ 0 $ 255,500 $ 175,166
Awasom, Adrian Giants $ 230,000 $ 9,000 $ 0 $ 239,000 $ 233,000
Robinson, Derreck Chargers $ 230,000 $ 7,500 $ 0 $ 237,500 $ 233,750
Fraser, Simon Browns $ 230,000 $ 6,000 $ 0 $ 236,000 $ 236,000
Clemons, Nic Redskins $ 230,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 235,720 $ 235,720
Smith, Antonio Cardinals $ 229,394 $ 0 $ 0 $ 229,394 $ 233,235
Ratliff, Jay Cowboys $ 179,706 $ 41,250 $ 0 $ 220,956 $ 193,456
Truluck, R- Kal Cardinals $ 214,118 $ 0 $ 0 $ 214,118 $ 214,118
Palepoi, Anton Cardinals $ 187,353 $ 0 $ 0 $ 187,353 $ 187,353
Pace, Calvin Cardinals $ 167,206 $ 0 $ 3,850 $ 171,056 $ 1,483,556
Williams, Melvin Redskins $ 165,000 $ 0 $ 5,720 $ 170,720 $ 170,720
Glymph, Junior Falcons $ 163,188 $ 0 $ 0 $ 163,188 $ 125,588
Johnson, Shawn Titans $ 135,000 $ 10,000 $ 4,290 $ 149,290 $ 149,290




It doesnt look like it from here. Who would you rather have that is not as highly paid as him? I know its the 2005 season but man its not like he is just killing it here.

[MadtownPacker]

Forget this list!! Yes he is overpayed and overplayed!!

[Tony Oday]

Forget this list!! Yes he is overpayed and overplayed!!

So you see a better player for the money?

[packers11]

Forget this list!! Yes he is overpayed and overplayed!!

So you see a better player for the money?

Dwight Freeney is cheaper :lol: ...

For now...

[ND72]

Hayward, Reggie
Peppers, Julius
Seymour, Richard
Green, Jarvis
Tuck, Justin
Warren, Ty
Suggs, Terrell
Brown, Alex
Weaver, Tony

That's a list of the guys i'd rather have than KGB.

[Tony Oday]

lol they did get a deal on him huh?

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is misleading. It doesn't paint a true picture of the contract KGB signed and how much he has been paid. It's like Javon saying he only made $500,000/year when he got a $5M signing bonus his rookie year. I believe the total compensation for KGB on his last contract was around $25M for 5 years.

[MJZiggy]

I'm going on the opposite logic of Walker. The club signed a deal with him for a certain amount of money. He shows up every day for work and busts his butt day in and day out. They signed the deal, they should pay it whether it's too much or not.

[esoxx]

I take it this is a rhetorical question.

[Tarlam!]

I'm going on the opposite logic of Walker. The club signed a deal with him for a certain amount of money. He shows up every day for work and busts his butt day in and day out. They signed the deal, they should pay it whether it's too much or not.

Post of the Year.

[vince]

I'm going on the opposite logic of Walker. The club signed a deal with him for a certain amount of money. He shows up every day for work and busts his butt day in and day out. They signed the deal, they should pay it whether it's too much or not.
And, or course, they are paying him.

[KYPack]

RG and I went round & round on this one.

Add Marcus Spears and Justin Smith to ND's list and give me anyone of 'em over KGB.

I don't care that Kabeer is a solid citizen and a good guy. I don't care that his contract now falls into line with other DE's.

He's getting paid to stop the run AND rush the passer with more than one move.

He can't do it anymore. (& the guy has played a LOT better lately)

We kept our end of the bargain, he can't play up to his end.

He gets cut the early part of next year.

[pbmax]

That list is cash paid out this year. It doesn't factor in his original signing bonus or guaranteed money. Or the cap hit for cutting him. All as important as his cash and cap number.

You are also comparing him out of position. He should be a third down pass rush specialist and backup DE. My guess is that he is at the top of the pay list for backup DE.

[Green Bud Packer]

yes he is.

[prsnfoto]

Yes and so is Woodsen.

[Zool]

That list is cash paid out this year. It doesn't factor in his original signing bonus or guaranteed money. Or the cap hit for cutting him. All as important as his cash and cap number.

You are also comparing him out of position. He should be a third down pass rush specialist and backup DE. My guess is that he is at the top of the pay list for backup DE.

Isnt the last column the cap figure for this season which is salary and bonuses pro-rated?

[Rastak]

That list is cash paid out this year. It doesn't factor in his original signing bonus or guaranteed money. Or the cap hit for cutting him. All as important as his cash and cap number.

You are also comparing him out of position. He should be a third down pass rush specialist and backup DE. My guess is that he is at the top of the pay list for backup DE.

Isnt the last column the cap figure for this season which is salary and bonuses pro-rated?


Aren't those last years numbers?

[Tony Oday]

That list is cash paid out this year. It doesn't factor in his original signing bonus or guaranteed money. Or the cap hit for cutting him. All as important as his cash and cap number.

You are also comparing him out of position. He should be a third down pass rush specialist and backup DE. My guess is that he is at the top of the pay list for backup DE.

Isnt the last column the cap figure for this season which is salary and bonuses pro-rated?


Aren't those last years numbers?

yup it says 2005 at the top :)

[Rastak]

That list is cash paid out this year. It doesn't factor in his original signing bonus or guaranteed money. Or the cap hit for cutting him. All as important as his cash and cap number.

You are also comparing him out of position. He should be a third down pass rush specialist and backup DE. My guess is that he is at the top of the pay list for backup DE.

Isnt the last column the cap figure for this season which is salary and bonuses pro-rated?


Aren't those last years numbers?

yup it says 2005 at the top :)


That and the fact that some of the players are on the wrong teams tipped me off.... :mrgreen: