Our predicitons of top players in the 2006 Draft!

[RashanGary]

We cannot take top 15 guys. Lets stick to some tougher picks.

I like:

Richard Marshal *I think he could be the best CB in this draft*
Cedric Griffin *I agree with Tank that this guy is under-rated*
Haloti Ngata *IMO one of the top 5 most talented players in this draft. I know I said refrain from the top 15 but this guy is under-rated at 10 IMO.*

[LEWCWA]

I believe Reggie Mcneil is very underrated in this draft. I believe this kid may be better than Vince Young. Just as Athletic, and bit more polished as a thrower!

[HarveyWallbangers]

QB Reggie McNeal, WR Brandon Marshall, OT Chris Kuper, OC Greg Eslinger, LB James Anderson, CB David Pittman, S Daniel Bullocks

[Deputy Nutz]

QB, Tarvaris Jackson from Alabama St, Prediction - 4th round

RB, Gerald Riggs Jr from Tennessee, Prediction - 5th round

WR, Todd Watkins from BYU, Prediction - 6th round

TE, David Thomas from Texas, Prediction - 3rd round/4th round

OT, Zach Strief from Northwestern, Prediction - 5th round

OG, Rob Simms from Ohio St, Prediction - 4th round

C, Chris Chester from Oklahoma, prediction - 6th round

DE, James Wyche from Syracuse, Prediction - 6th round

DT, Titus Adams from Nebraska, Prediction - 5th round/6th round

OLB, Clint Ingram from Oklahoma, Prediction - 6th round

ILB, Anthony Schlegel from Ohio St, Prediction - 5th round

CB, Will Blackmon from Boston College, Prediction - 4th round

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The LB Carpenter from OSU; a Hawk clone; might be better.

Marcus Vick; off feild issues aside, Vick could be the next Kordell Stewert..only better.

Jonathan Orr: this guy is bigger and just as fast as Brandon Williams. Could be a steal.

Of course, Cedric Griffen

[Bretsky]

The LB Carpenter from OSU; a Hawk clone; might be better.

Marcus Vick; off feild issues aside, Vick could be the next Kordell Stewert..only better.

Jonathan Orr: this guy is bigger and just as fast as Brandon Williams. Could be a steal.

Of course, Cedric Griffen


Tank,

I've read some details about Carpenter; unlike Hawk from what I read the guy seems like a head case. Teammated didn't necessarily get along with him at all and not a good chemistry guy. Can't remember where I read that, but it sounded like personality wise he was the anti Hawk.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tank,

I've read some details about Carpenter; unlike Hawk from what I read the guy seems like a head case. Teammated didn't necessarily get along with him at all and not a good chemistry guy. Can't remember where I read that, but it sounded like personality wise he was the anti Hawk.

Bretsky, according to a USA Today article I was reading yesterday, Carpenter supposedly is as much of a leader as Hawk. They are friends, roommates, workout buddies, play similarly and stuff like that. Only difference is Carpenter is projected as a Sam in the NFL and Hawk a Will. I think Carpenter is underrated, and Hawk overrated. Carpenter may turn to be the better player, imo.

[RashanGary]

Damn nutz,

Thats a hell of a list.



On a side note; did you guys notice how high scouts have Donte Whitner rated? Everyone is calling him a 15-20 pick. That sure makes you feel like getting Nick Collins was highway robbery doesn't it...

Donte Whitner *stats found at NFL.com. All info is taken from the combine*
Height: 5'10-1/8"
Weight: 204
40 yd dash: 4.45 *average*
Vertical jump: 40 inches
Broad jump: 11 feet
Short Shuttle: 4.12
3 cone drill: 6.79
225 lifts: 18

Nick Collins *NFL.com. Taken from the Combine*
Height: 5'11-1/8"
Weight: 206
40 yd dash: 4.37
Vertical jump: 40 inches
Broad jump: 9'10"
Short shuttle: 4.16
3 cone drill: 6.94
225 lifts: 11

Collins -vs- Whitner

Collins has better Height, Weight and 40 yd dash.
Both players are equal in the Vertical Jump
Whitner has a better Broad jump, short shuttle, 3 cone and bench reps


Another thing about Collins -vs- Whitner is that Whitner probably had better trainers and was more prepared for his combine. Collins was from a small school and probably didn't have the recources that Whitner has. Either way they are both about equal prospects. Collins has much better speed where as Whitner had a much better broad jump. The rest of the stats were pretty much equal with a slight edge going either way. I think GB getting Nick Collins with the 51st pick was an absolute steal. Had he played at OSU he would have been a top 16-20 pick. Lets hope Thompson can work that same magic this time around.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Collins would probably be a 1st round pick if the draft was held again now.

Bretsky, I'm an Ohio State guy and I've never read that Carpenter was a headcase. I'd be interested to see the article you read.

[Bretsky]

Collins would probably be a 1st round pick if the draft was held again now.

Bretsky, I'm an Ohio State guy and I've never read that Carpenter was a headcase. I'd be interested to see the article you read.

I'll try to find it tonight; you have to get off the love for the Gopher. You are setting yourself up for disappointement when GB drafts some guy who played one year of college over him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Buckeye--not Gopher, ass munch.

[MadtownPacker]

Richard Marshal *I think he could be the best CB in this draft*

Interesting choice. Fresno State guy so I saw quite a bit of him. Very good hands and eyes. Plays the ball very well and can take it to the house when he gets it. He's a playmaker with good size. I wasnt too surprised when his name came up as a first round prospect.

[RashanGary]

I like CB's with good instincts and good ball skills first. After that I want size, short area burst, fluidity and speed. This guy has it all. Some other guys might run a lilttle faster but this kid looks like the one who has everything. He's a 4.42 guy not a 4.36 guy so hopefully he gets overlooked a little. 4.42 is more than enough speed though and I think this guy can be the real deal.

[Charles Woodson]

Collins would probably be a 1st round pick if the draft was held again now.



Yeah but u could say that about any player who was taken and turned out to be amazing... Favre Brady, Priest holmes.

[Charles Woodson]

I think Willie Reid from FSU is underated.

[Charles Woodson]

Damn nutz,

Thats a hell of a list.



On a side note; did you guys notice how high scouts have Donte Whitner rated? Everyone is calling him a 15-20 pick. That sure makes you feel like getting Nick Collins was highway robbery doesn't it...

Donte Whitner *stats found at NFL.com. All info is taken from the combine*
Height: 5'10-1/8"
Weight: 204
40 yd dash: 4.45 *average*
Vertical jump: 40 inches
Broad jump: 11 feet
Short Shuttle: 4.12
3 cone drill: 6.79
225 lifts: 18

Nick Collins *NFL.com. Taken from the Combine*
Height: 5'11-1/8"
Weight: 206
40 yd dash: 4.37
Vertical jump: 40 inches
Broad jump: 9'10"
Short shuttle: 4.16
3 cone drill: 6.94
225 lifts: 11

Collins -vs- Whitner

Collins has better Height, Weight and 40 yd dash.
Both players are equal in the Vertical Jump
Whitner has a better Broad jump, short shuttle, 3 cone and bench reps


Another thing about Collins -vs- Whitner is that Whitner probably had better trainers and was more prepared for his combine. Collins was from a small school and probably didn't have the recources that Whitner has. Either way they are both about equal prospects. Collins has much better speed where as Whitner had a much better broad jump. The rest of the stats were pretty much equal with a slight edge going either way. I think GB getting Nick Collins with the 51st pick was an absolute steal. Had he played at OSU he would have been a top 16-20 pick. Lets hope Thompson can work that same magic this time around.


Not neccesarily. There are a few things to remember. Donte played good at Ohio State. A verry good school. Collins played at bethune-cookman (D II)? so there are a few things to look at how they played in college. Also Stats dont always mean everything.

[Partial]

:lol: at the notion Carpenter will be a better pro then Hawk. Personally, I would have no objection whatsoever to bringing in the ENTIRE OSU starting LB core.

It is very possible you could get it with a 1st, 2nd, and 5th. Use 3rd and 4th on the OL. How would that look?

[RashanGary]

I think Carpenter is overrated. He's a solid second round pick but I can't see him going in the first round. He's just too stiff and was benefited by playing next to college footballs #1 LB.

Carpenter cannot play traditional LB and he's not a good enough pass rusher to be considered a #1 pick. I'd take 1 Manny Lawson or Kamerion Wimbley over 2 Bobby Carpenters.

With that being said; Capenter has a place in the league. He could play MLB on a team who asks him to eat up blockers like Jeremia Trotter. He could be a teams 2nd or 3rd best OLB in a 4-3 scheme. He'll be a hell of a special teams player because he just has to run strait. In his prime he'll probably start for 3-5 years. He's a good player but not one I would take in the 1st round or early second for that matter.

[Charles Woodson]

Carpenter cannot play traditional LB and he's not a good enough pass rusher to be considered a #1 pick. I'd take 1 Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley over 2 Bobby Carpenters.

In his prime he'll probably start for 3-5 years. .

See this is the thing. How do u know this. This is like my point of tom brady or Favre. For all we know, carpenter could be the next Ray lewis. Probaly not likely but it could happen.

[RashanGary]

He just doesn't look like a football player to me. He's too stiff to change direction and not explosive enough to rush the passer. He's not really good at anything. We don't *know* anything but in my opinion he is way.....overrated.

[Bretsky]

Buckeye--not Gopher, ass munch.

I was discussing that diry Gopher Elslinger you show all the love to Beavis.

[HarveyWallbangers]

NickCollins,

You seem to jump on th bandwagon of the "hottest" player. I'll make a prediction. I predict that out of Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley, one of them turns into a big-time bust. I'll also predict that Bobby Carpenter turns into a solid starter. Not a stud, but solid. In the mold of some of those New England LBs.

[Charles Woodson]

NickCollins,

You seem to jump on th bandwagon of the "hottest" player. I'll make a prediction. I predict that out of Manny Lawson and Kamerion Wimbley, one of them turns into a big-time bust. I'll also predict that Bobby Carpenter turns into a solid starter. Not a stud, but solid. In the mold of some of those New England LBs.

I agree. I happen to like carpenter alot. I think lawson will be the bust out of all of them Wimbley i think would fit Perfect in the NE Scheme