Fergie goes on IR

[Willard]

This just posted on JSonline updates:

MONDAY, Oct. 23, 2006, 4:55 p.m.
By Tom Silverstein

Packers claim Bodiford, put Ferguson on IR
Green Bay - Seeking insurance in case injured rookie Greg Jennings can't play this week, the Green Bay Packers claimed wide receiver Shaun Bodiford on waivers from the Detroit Lions Monday.

Bodiford, a 5-foot-11, 186-pound undrafted rookie out of Portland State, played in three games for the Lions this season, serving mostly on special teams. He was released over the weekend and the Packers put in a claim and were granted his services.

In college, Bodiford, 24, averaged 24.1 yards per kickoff return and caught 51 passes for 545 yards and five touchdowns last year.

To make room for Bodiford, the Packers placed wide receiver Robert Ferguson on injured reserve, thus ending his season. Ferguson suffered a foot injury against the Philadelphia Eagles Oct. 2 and hasn't played since.

After seeing a number of specialists, the Packers determined that he wouldn't be able to come back this year and decided to fill his spot. Ferguson, a second-round pick in 2001, has missed nine of 64 games over the past four seasons because of injury and has had difficulty staying healthy his entire career.

This season, he lost his starting job to Jennings, a second-round pick, during training camp and was serving as the No. 3 receiver until his injury. He had five catches for 31 yards and a touchdown in four games.

Jennings injured his ankle against the Miami Dolphins Sunday and might not be available this week against Arizona. Coach Mike McCarthy said the ankle is not broken and that Jennings suffered a sprain.

[packers11]

Hopfully thats the last time we see him in a packer uniform..... With Jennings, Driver, and Martin panning out, we should just get a young WR in the draft to fill the spot...

[Bretsky]

Hopfully thats the last time we see him in a packer uniform..... With Jennings, Driver, and Martin panning out, we should just get a young WR in the draft to fill the spot...

Draft Calvin Johnson and let Fergy take his Million dollar gift from Sherman off into the wind.

B

[Lurker64]

Draft Calvin Johnson and let Fergy take his Million dollar gift from Sherman off into the wind.

You mean you just want to GIVE him to the Texans?

[Bretsky]

Draft Calvin Johnson and let Fergy take his Million dollar gift from Sherman off into the wind.

You mean you just want to GIVE him to the Texans?


If we could give away Fergy w/o taking a cap hit that would be an upgrade to this roster IMO.

[Joemailman]

Hopfully thats the last time we see him in a packer uniform..... With Jennings, Driver, and Martin panning out, we should just get a young WR in the draft to fill the spot...

Draft Calvin Johnson and let Fergy take his Million dollar gift from Sherman off into the wind.

B


No way the Packers will have a shot at Calvin Johnson. The Packers have a shot at 8-8 if their key players stay healthy. I do believe, though, that Fergie may have played his last game as a Packer. :glug:

[BF4MVP]

I'm not surprised by this, as I don't think any of us are.

I obviously wish Fergie the best, but I do believe he's played his last game as a Packer.

P.S. Calvin Johnson would be amazing, but we won't get him. In fact, IMO we won't even be close to that bad. I think we have a legit shot at being 4-4 after the next two games, and if that does happen, that's already too many wins...Calvin will be one of the top two or three players picked come April.

[Tarlam!]

Bye bye, Robbie, bye bye.

When we think what could have bin'....

I just bet he plays his lights out elsewhere....

[Patler]

I hope he stays, but as the 4th or 5th receiver, with an up and comer as the 3rd and another as the 4th or 5th, which ever Ferguson isn't. After all, isn't Ferguson exactly the type of player some of you have been clamoring for TT to "find and sign" now as a replacement? Not an all pro, but an experienced veteran who is a good lockerroom presence, practices hard and is a willing and skilled special teams performer? He will certainly know the offense well.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.

After a bad approach to the game as a rookie, no one associated with the team has had anything but good things to say about Ferguson as a player or person.

Yes, he will be paid too much for a #4 or #5 receiver, and if they need the cap space he should be released. But if they don't need the cap space next year he could be a very good option as the 4th or 5th receiver.

Yes, he's been injured a lot, but if the medical staff determines it is just incredible bad luck and not because of a propensity to injury (like repeated pulled hamstrings or concussions can be) I wouldn't worry about it.

[Iron Mike]

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.


You can make the same arguments for Ahmad Carroll, and noone was happier than me when Batman was shown the door.

<==looking forward to jettisoning another wasted draft pick by the Shermanator...........bye bye, Turd Ferguson:

http://webhollis.com/albums/Pop-SNL-Celebrity-Jeopardy/CelebrityJeopardy04.thumb.jpg

[Bretsky]

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been. It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.

A BUNCH OF GOOD POINTS THERE PATLER; WHEN I READ THESE THREE WHAT COMES TO MIND IS EACH OF GREEN BAY'S LAST 3 GM'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISMAY MANY OF US, INCLUDING ME, HAVE FOR ROBERT FERGUSON.

Some feel similar about KGB (I'm not in that group) due to reason #2.

[Patler]

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.
It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.


You can make the same arguments for Ahmad Carroll, and noone was happier than me when Batman was shown the door.

<==looking forward to jettisoning another wasted draft pick by the Shermanator...........bye bye, Turd Ferguson:

http://webhollis.com/albums/Pop-SNL-Celebrity-Jeopardy/CelebrityJeopardy04.thumb.jpg

But there again the problem is that Carroll was expected to be the #3 corner. If he was asked only to be the #4 or #5 corner, meaning he really would see the field only on special teams, he might have been OK, because he was decent at special teams.

Why call Ferguson "Turd"? Did he practice hard? Did he try and do whatever the team asked? Is he a "Turd" simply because he was not as talented as you WANTED him to be? If he gives an all out effort and is a decent person and teammate there is no reason to insult or ridicule him.

[Patler]

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been. It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.

A BUNCH OF GOOD POINTS THERE PATLER; WHEN I READ THESE THREE WHAT COMES TO MIND IS EACH OF GREEN BAY'S LAST 3 GM'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISMAY MANY OF US, INCLUDING ME, HAVE FOR ROBERT FERGUSON.

Some feel similar about KGB (I'm not in that group) due to reason #2.

Unlike so many high draft picks who simply flop because they seemingly don't care, don't get it, or simply are bad people; at least Ferguson has tried to contribute in any way that he can. I respect him for that. Since his rookie season, no coach or player, including Favre, has done anything but praise his attitude, desire and work ethic. Remember too, Favre was very critical of Ferguson as a rookie.

You are right. KGB is much the same. Probably paid too much for what he is, and is asked to play beyond what he is best suited to, but those two factors certainly don't make him a bad person.

[MJZiggy]

Favre was asked about this in his last press conference and had very high praise for Ferguson. He went on for a little while about the effort he put in and that he wasn't one of those guys stuff just happened for. What he got he made happen and though he might not be a #1 receiver, Patler is right. He's just the kind of guy everyone's been saying that TT should have signed instead of the kid he picked up.

[Bretsky]

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted higher than he should have been. It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was drafted instead of Chambers.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was paid more than he should have been.

It isn't Ferguson's fault that he was required to be #3 because GB had no one better.

A BUNCH OF GOOD POINTS THERE PATLER; WHEN I READ THESE THREE WHAT COMES TO MIND IS EACH OF GREEN BAY'S LAST 3 GM'S CONTRIBUTED TO THE DISMAY MANY OF US, INCLUDING ME, HAVE FOR ROBERT FERGUSON.

Some feel similar about KGB (I'm not in that group) due to reason #2.

Unlike so many high draft picks who simply flop because they seemingly don't care, don't get it, or simply are bad people; at least Ferguson has tried to contribute in any way that he can. I respect him for that. Since his rookie season, no coach or player, including Favre, has done anything but praise his attitude, desire and work ethic. Remember too, Favre was very critical of Ferguson as a rookie.

You are right. KGB is much the same. Probably paid too much for what he is, and is asked to play beyond what he is best suited to, but those two factors certainly don't make him a bad person.

I agree with everything that you say; Favre and others tore Fergy down in year one and have had good things to say about him effort wise in year two and thereafter. At first I questioned how much credibility there was to the year 2 statement; though maybe Fergy had an ok attitude in year two but he was so bad as a rook they were encouraging him. Either way effort wise he seems to be looked on very well.

But why has the guy grossly underachieved what Green Bay expected of him, or any 2nd round draft pick for that matter ? That is what I question and I'm sick of getting teased with his ability so I could care less if he goes.

Even his worse detractors (myself included), will admit he has the physical abilities and gifts to be a major contributor. He just never makes it happen and I don't know why..

I'm sick of getting teased.

As is we can find other Robert Ferguson's; he's a marginal WR, probably now belongs as a #5, with good special teams ability.

B

[Sparkey]

Ferguson's agent blames FAVRE?!

"There's something going on up there," Overstreet said. "I don't know what it is, but I can tell you this: When he got hurt, he had played three quarters and they had thrown him one ball. Koren Robinson came in, and they threw him eight balls in less than a quarter. So that, to me, speaks volumes.

"I don't know what it is. I know he's a hard worker, but it's definitely something. Maybe it's Brett (Favre). Who knows?"

Overstreet said Ferguson might be better off with another team.

"It's obvious to me that he's not in their plans," Overstreet said. "You hate to say it, but you've got to be realistic. The guy's played six years, and they've constantly brought in people and put them in front of him.

"He doesn't drop balls. He blocks. He plays special teams. Like he told me once, he said, 'Hey man, I just really don't deserve this. I work hard. I do what they ask me to do, and I can't explain what it is.' (Jennings) earned the starting job in preseason. He never even played in a game. I don't get it."

[Patler]

I was kind of amazed at the agent's "excuses" when I read the article.

[Patler]

As is we can find other Robert Ferguson's; he's a marginal WR, probably now belongs as a #5, with good special teams ability.

I don't know if we can or not. Most on here seem to argue that TT has done a miserable job finding any so far. Why not just keep the one you have, the one you know, the one who knows your offense and your special teams approach?

I want someone better than Ferguson as a #3 to start the year next year, but I would feel very satisfied with him as the #4 or #5 receiver. I think many teams would be happy with him in that role.

A lot may depend on where Ferguson sees himself. If he contiunes to think of himself as a #1 receiver, as he has expressed many times, he may want an opportunity elsewhere. Otherwise, a release and re-sign could be used next year to get his salary more inline with his role. I doubt that will happen.

[run pMc]

Is there a link to the story with the agent's comments? Could be just frustration over the injury.

I agree with Patler's comments. The guy gives effort and plays hurt...unfortunately, he gets hurt a lot.

I think the image of Ken Lucas (or was it Thomas Davis) ripping the ball away from him on MNF last year really solidified many people's opinions of Fergy. He's a teaser with his talent, and an overpaid #4 WR. All the same, he is the type of #4WR & spec.teams player GB needs. He might be done in GB, though.

[mmmdk]

Fergy is a nice guy, TT/McCarthy/Favre wants him back!? But why? Ferguson has NEVER produced offensively on the field, not enough to merit his rather high salery. Cut him loose, please - after the season. What's the progress in keeping a player that tease you, again and again?

[Brando19]

Foxsports.com posts:
If Robert Ferguson heals well enough and shows no aftereffects of a serious foot injury, the Green Bay Packers want him back next year. Ferguson was put on injured reserve Monday with a Lisfranc injury in his right foot, ending yet another disappointing season for the former second-round draft choice. The injury is to the Lisfranc joint, where the metatarsal bones attach to the rest of the foot. Given his salary cap number will be $2.5 million next season and it's unlikely he'll be a starter, it wouldn't be surprising if the Packers decided to negotiate an injury settlement and let him go. But general manager Ted Thompson said emphatically that he wanted Ferguson back next season.

[b bulldog]

tOTAL BS, he won't be back next season.

[Sparkey]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061024/PKR01/610240499/1057/PKR&located=RSS

[Guiness]

Yes, there seems to be a lot of dislike for Ferguson around here. But the truth is, he's a valuable vetran contribution (when healthy...) that a lot of teams need around as a role player. Championship teams have guys like him to provide depth, albeit at lower salaries.

His draft position is a thing of the past. He had the misfortune to be drafted too close to Chambers. He's managed to make the team for 6 years, and I'd be curious to know how many players drafted in that round are still with thier teams.

I also think comparissons to Carroll aren't accurate. Carroll caused locker room problems (two fights) and generally speaking, wasn't reported to have a great attitude.

Of course, those comments by his agent don't help us feel the love :glug:
Attribution Sparkey? Those are from 2 seasons ago, aren't they?

[BobDobbs]

I admit that I can see a place for Ferguson on the team when I consider his special teams play. But, I just think about all the interviews he's had where he's talking himself up. He does play hard on special teams, but if those comments from his agent are meant to speak for him he's not happy about playing on teams.
I can't see him being content with yet another demotion and I can't see the team paying him that much money to play just on special teams. I think he'll be back in camp, but I think he'll have to win the 3rd spot to avoid a cut. There is an off chance that they decide overpaying him is worth the insurance after what we've seen the last two years at wide receiver.

[HarveyWallbangers]

BobDobbs, I agree. He should have a spot on an NFL roster. He's okay as a 3rd or 4th wideout, and he's solid on special teams. I just think he needs a fresh start.

[Bretsky]

His draft position is a thing of the past. He had the misfortune to be drafted too close to Chambers. He's managed to make the team for 6 years, and I'd be curious to know how many players drafted in that round are still with thier teams.

BEING A DRAFT WANNA BE, I'LL DO MY BEST PATLERESQUE IMITATION AND ADDRESS THIS; HERE ARE THE 2ND ROUND WR'S DRAFTED IN ORDER TAKEN

2001 DRAFT ROUND TWO

Pick #33- Quincy Morgan- Cleveland- Now with Denver
Pick #36- Chad Johnson- Cincinati- Excels with original team
Pick #41- Robert the Fraud Ferguson- underachiever
Pick #52- Chris Chambers- Still well with Miami

HERE ARE THEIR CAREER STATS OVER FIRST SIX YEARS IN LEAGUE


MORGAN- 6Yrs- 164 catches 2466 yards 17 TD's
JOHNSON- 6Yrs- 409 catches 5929 yards 35TD's
FERGUSON- 6Yrs- 116 catches 1577 yards 12TD's
CHAMBERS- 6Yrs- 343 catches 4895 yards 42TE's