ONE DRIVE, ONE GAME........MANNING, BRADY, OR FAVRE ??

[Bretsky]

You are the head coach and you can choose from the three QB's mentioned above in the two below scenarios.


A.
You are down by 6 with 3 minutes left and need to drive for the winning TD. Your QB ?

B.
You win and you are in the playoffs; you lose and you are out. Your QB ?

Please list all three QB's in your preferential order in the two above scenarios.

[Bretsky]

HERE IS MY STAB AT THIS ON FIRST THOUGHT

ONE DRIVE

1. Brady
2. Manning
3. Favre

If I'm the coach and we need one drive to win the game, I want guys who can make a play obviously. But I also want a smart QB who minimizes turnovers and is pretty smart on the field. In my eyes that puts Favre at the #3 spot. Being left with Brady or Manning, I'm going with the proven winner who has shown he gets the job done and makes everybody around him better.

ONE GAME

1. Brady
2. Favre
3. Manning

Over the course of a game, I'd put more weight on a guy who might turn nothing into something. Over the full game some of the positives of what Brett Favre can do might outweight the ill advised throw. So I might give more weight to a playmaker in this situation; still want a proven winner. For one game I put Payton Manning at #3.

Then I'm left between Favre and Brady. And it's a toss up here. But in the end of I'm the coach I put a little more value in consistency than I do the ability to create something out of nothing. So I give Brady the slight nod with Favre a VERY close second.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'd take Brady, Favre, Manning on both. Strange that as great as Manning has been he hasn't really won a lot of big games (well, playoff games anyways; this year they are winning in spite of him) or had a lot of dramatic late come-from-behind victories.

[Jimx29]

manning = choke artist in any big game


It's already showing.

[OS PA]

One Drive
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Favre

Nobody in todays league is better in the two-minute drill. With this said i'd like to make a note about the supporting class. Give all three of these Quarterback's a prowbowl supporting cast and i'd give the go ahead to favre, for his willingness not to lose.

One Game
1. Favre
2. Brady
3. Manning

Nobody has a winning attitude in this league like Favre, I don't believe anyone ever will. Sometimes after watching Brady I feel like he could have left more on the field, Manning I catch a little bit of this from, but he's no where near as bad. Favre on the other hand would die on the field for his team to pick up the W. Only reason Manning is ranked lower than Brady here is because he can't win the big games.

[Pacopete4]

on what team is the real question? are all three on the packers, colts, or patriots.. cuz outta the 3, Favre is still the best QB out of all them even though he doesnt have the overall team and coaching that those 2 have had thru the first part of their careers

[Rastak]

What year is this happening? 10 years ago I'd take Favre.....

[Bretsky]

let's assume they are all in their prime.

Same talent and you are the coach.

[MJZiggy]

Well in that case,
Favre
Brady
Manning

For both.

[Partial]

Brady
Favre
Manning

[Rastak]

let's assume they are all in their prime.

Same talent and you are the coach.


Well, I'd have to take Favre then....then Brady then Manning.

[fan4life]

One drive, one game - no matter. Here's my pick:

Favre (the Master of making something out of nothing)
Brady (the Master of taking what the defense gives)
Manning (the Master of the long ball to a WR that gets free)

[GBRulz]

Favre
Brady
Manning

Favre & Brady also get extra points because they never had dual weapons like Harrison & Wayne, either.

[wist43]

Brady
Manning
Favre

[Packnut]

This question really comes down to Brady and Favre for one simple factual reason. Brady and Favre have proven that they can do more with less. Manning has always played on talented offenses. Now comparing them in their prime, Brett gets a huge edge cause he can make throws the other 2 can't. However #04 is more prone to throwing a pick than Brady.

Brady
Favre
Manning

[BooHoo]

Favre
Brady
Manning


Brady has the Bart Starr ability to always land on his feet.

[HarveyWallbangers]

let's assume they are all in their prime.

Same talent and you are the coach.

I'd probably pick Favre, Brady, Manning then. Favre and Brady are close, but I'll be the homer. In his prime, I think Favre was the best QB of the three. He won big games, and he won games late. Brady has done this also, but I just don't see him being quite as good right now as Favre was in his prime. Manning is a great QB. He just hasn't done much in these types of situations. Not enough to pick him over the other two.

[PackerPro42]

Since I hate Brady and think he's one of the most overhyped plaers in the game, mine looks like this.

1. Manning

2. Favre

3. Brady

I really don't like Brady because I think he's a system QB that's won championships because of his team. You could put Koy Detmer on the Patriots teams that won the Super Bowls and then Koy would be hyped as one of the best ever. Another reason I don't like Brady is because he's cocky, full of himself, and just doesn't have that swagger you look for in a hall of fame QB. He's just not that special.

[fan4life]

Brett gets a huge edge cause he can make throws the other 2 can't. However #04 is more prone to throwing a pick than Brady.

Brady
Favre
Manning Perhaps you've forgotten Brady's picks.... The most recent example being the SD game. Another one that comes to mind is late in the 4th qtr of the SB against the Panthers, he threw a pick in the end zone that could have been the end of the game. But after Carolina marched down the field to tie the game, they handed the Pats a short field on the ensuring kick-off -- and a couple of plays later, Vinateri pulls another one out.

Again - Brady is very, very good... but he's on a team that is coached to believe that every player on the team will have the opportunity to make a play that can win the game for them -- and he should take it. So yes, Brady makes plays.... but so do Bruschi, Harrison, Branch, Mulroney, Samuel et al. Last week it was Troy Brown. Who will it be next time?

But go ahead... just keep forgetting Brady's ints in critical situations and believing that he is why that team keeps winning.

[GoPackGo]

My QB pick would have to be Tom Brady. He is 12-1 in the playoffs.

[mmmdk]

In their prime:
Favre
Brady
Manning

Today:
Brady
Manning
Favre

[Packnut]

Brett gets a huge edge cause he can make throws the other 2 can't. However #04 is more prone to throwing a pick than Brady.

Brady
Favre
Manning Perhaps you've forgotten Brady's picks.... The most recent example being the SD game. Another one that comes to mind is late in the 4th qtr of the SB against the Panthers, he threw a pick in the end zone that could have been the end of the game. But after Carolina marched down the field to tie the game, they handed the Pats a short field on the ensuring kick-off -- and a couple of plays later, Vinateri pulls another one out.

Again - Brady is very, very good... but he's on a team that is coached to believe that every player on the team will have the opportunity to make a play that can win the game for them -- and he should take it. So yes, Brady makes plays.... but so do Bruschi, Harrison, Branch, Mulroney, Samuel et al. Last week it was Troy Brown. Who will it be next time?

But go ahead... just keep forgetting Brady's ints in critical situations and believing that he is why that team keeps winning.

Ya gotta read the question and the scenario again my friend. It stipulated when all 3 were in their prime. Your giving me recent games. Brady is not in his prime in my opinion. When he was, he was winning super bowls. Now if you change the parameters of the question and put Favre on those Patriot Super bowl teams, then I believe he would be the best QB out of the 3.

I've always hated these kinds of questions because how can you compare players in the ultimate team sport on an individual basis? You have to give all 3 the exact same scenario in order to compare and that is impossible.

All you can really say that out of these 3, Brett has the best arm and biggest heart. Brady learned to read defenses faster than Brett did. As far as Manning goes, I think he's over-rated. He chokes in big games and has always had very talented offenses. He's for the most part always had solid protection, a good RB and the most talented WR's out of the 3.

[mraynrand]

If you're really interested inthis question, there's a raging debate on JS - actually there have been several threads going back and forth about the different QBs. Who is the best ever and who is better Favre or Brady. It's interesting to see the 'stat' guys fight with the 'game situation' guys. It's also interesting to see the breakdown of individual games - like the AFC Championship game a couple years back where NE beat Pittsburgh 41-21, yet Brady only threw 12 completions for 112 yards and no TDs. Could you imagine Favre beating the 1993-1995 Cowboys with that kind of game?

All Time:
ONE PLAY: Favre
ONE DRIVE: Brady
ONE GAME: Montana
ONE GAG REFLEX: Manning

[MadtownPacker]

If we are going by their prime then:

Favre
Brady
Manning

Now:

Manning
Favre
Brady

[b bulldog]

Brady, big surprise!

[The Shadow]

Brady, hands down.

[fan4life]

Did I hear some of you ask for a do over?

[Charles Woodson]

If we are going by their prime then:

Favre
Brady
Manning

Now:

Manning
Favre
Brady

idk in there prime id put

Favre
Manning
Brady

[b bulldog]

Brady in all their primes and anyone who would want Brett over the top 10 of the leagues QB's is smokin something. He was one of the lowest rated QB's in the past two years.

[Jerry Tagge]

After watching Tom Brady the last 2 weeks, here are some QB's I'd take over him in no particular order:

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
John Elway
Joe Montana
Roger Staubach
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Pastorini
Carson Palmer
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Drew Bledsoe
Troy Aikman
Steve Young
Doug Williams
Joe Theismann
Phil Simms
Jeff Hostettler
Tommy Kramer
Bobby Hebert
Chris Miller
Archie Manning
Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Fran Tarkenton
Wade Wilson
Jim McMahon
Sean Salisbury
Trent Green
Kurt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Alex Smith
Tim Rattay
David Whitehurst
Philip Rivers
Dan Fouts
Jim Plunkett
Don Majkowski
Steve Bartkowski
Zeke Bratkowski
Bart Starr
Don Meredith
Len Dawson
Daryle Lamonica
George Blanda
Sid Luckman
Tobin Rote
Lamar McHan
Bobby Layne
Scott Mitchell
Erik Kramer
Steve Walsh
Quincy Carter
Randy Wright
Jim Del Gaizo
Carlos Brown
Don Milan
Blair Kiel
Anthony Dilweg
TJ Rubley
Warren Moon
Kordell Stewart
Neil O'Donnell
Johnny Unitas
Jake Plummer
Drew Brees
Terry Hanratty
Jim Sorgi
Chad Pennington
Brad Johnson
Tavaris Jackson
Rex Grossman
Craig Krenzel
Jonathan Quinn
Will Fuerer
Peter Tom Willis
Alan Risher
Greg Landry
Eric Hipple
Gary Danielson
Neil Lomax
Jim Hart
Sonny Jurgensen
Billy Kilmer
Norm Van Brocklin
Roman Gabriel
Bobby Douglass
Don Horn
Scott Hunter
James Harris
John Hadl
Lynn Dickey
Gary Huff
Kent Nix
Jack Concannon
Virgil Carter
Tony Eason
Steve Grogan
Rusty Lisch
Todd Marinovich
Aaron Brooks
Michael Vick
Todd Bouman
Aaron Rodgers
Ingle Martin
Danny Weurfel
Shane Matthews
Joey Harrington
Daunte Culpepper
Eli Manning
Tony Romo
Brian Griese
Brooks Bollinger
Scott Brunner
Richard Todd
David Woodley
Don Strock
Donovan McNabb
Ron Jaworski
Joe Pisarcik
Steve Pisarkiewicz
Matt Robinson
Joe Namath
Earl Morrall
Craig Morton
Norris Weese
Bill Kenney
Steve Fuller
Ken Anderson
Brian Sipe
Mike Phipps
Vince Evans
Pat Haden
Vince Ferragamo
Steve Dils
Jerry Tagge

[GrnBay007]

Jerry, Your list is going to put Bulldog over the edge!!! :D :P

[Jerry Tagge]

Jerry, Your list is going to put Bulldog over the edge!!! :D :P
Well, with all the crap he posts about Favre, it's about time he faces facts.

Fact is Brady won with a great D. What happened tonight when Manning went through the Pats D tonight? Could Brady come up big?

No, he couldn't. He threw a horrible pass that was easily intercepted. There wasn't a white jersey around. Brady had no pressure on him, he just choked.

Oh, and I don't want to hear about Caldwell's dropped passes. I've learned from the Brady worshipers that every bad play is the QB's fault.

Since it's Favre's fault when his receivers drop passes, it's also Brady's fault for Caldwell's dropped passes.

Brady is the most overrated QB in the last 10 years. Grossman has been much better than Brady in the playoffs. Think about it, Grossman better than Brady.

Of course that ends in 2 weeks. GO COLTS!

[esoxx]

After watching Tom Brady the last 2 weeks, here are some QB's I'd take over him in no particular order:

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
John Elway
Joe Montana
Roger Staubach
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Pastorini
Carson Palmer
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Drew Bledsoe
Troy Aikman
Steve Young
Doug Williams
Joe Theismann
Phil Simms
Jeff Hostettler
Tommy Kramer
Bobby Hebert
Chris Miller
Archie Manning
Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Fran Tarkenton
Wade Wilson
Jim McMahon
Sean Salisbury
Trent Green
Kurt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Alex Smith
Tim Rattay
David Whitehurst
Philip Rivers
Dan Fouts
Jim Plunkett
Don Majkowski
Steve Bartkowski
Zeke Bratkowski
Bart Starr
Don Meredith
Len Dawson
Daryle Lamonica
George Blanda
Sid Luckman
Tobin Rote
Lamar McHan
Bobby Layne
Scott Mitchell
Erik Kramer
Steve Walsh
Quincy Carter
Randy Wright
Jim Del Gaizo
Carlos Brown
Don Milan
Blair Kiel
Anthony Dilweg
TJ Rubley
Warren Moon
Kordell Stewart
Neil O'Donnell
Johnny Unitas
Jake Plummer
Drew Brees
Terry Hanratty
Jim Sorgi
Chad Pennington
Brad Johnson
Tavaris Jackson
Rex Grossman
Craig Krenzel
Jonathan Quinn
Will Fuerer
Peter Tom Willis
Alan Risher
Greg Landry
Eric Hipple
Gary Danielson
Neil Lomax
Jim Hart
Sonny Jurgensen
Billy Kilmer
Norm Van Brocklin
Roman Gabriel
Bobby Douglass
Don Horn
Scott Hunter
James Harris
John Hadl
Lynn Dickey
Gary Huff
Kent Nix
Jack Concannon
Virgil Carter
Tony Eason
Steve Grogan
Rusty Lisch
Todd Marinovich
Aaron Brooks
Michael Vick
Todd Bouman
Aaron Rodgers
Ingle Martin
Danny Weurfel
Shane Matthews
Joey Harrington
Daunte Culpepper
Eli Manning
Tony Romo
Brian Griese
Brooks Bollinger
Scott Brunner
Richard Todd
David Woodley
Don Strock
Donovan McNabb
Ron Jaworski
Joe Pisarcik
Steve Pisarkiewicz
Matt Robinson
Joe Namath
Earl Morrall
Craig Morton
Norris Weese
Bill Kenney
Steve Fuller
Ken Anderson
Brian Sipe
Mike Phipps
Vince Evans
Pat Haden
Vince Ferragamo
Steve Dils
Jerry Tagge

You forgot Boomer Esiason.

[Jerry Tagge]

After watching Tom Brady the last 2 weeks, here are some QB's I'd take over him in no particular order:

Brett Favre
Peyton Manning
John Elway
Joe Montana
Roger Staubach
Terry Bradshaw
Dan Pastorini
Carson Palmer
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Drew Bledsoe
Troy Aikman
Steve Young
Doug Williams
Joe Theismann
Phil Simms
Jeff Hostettler
Tommy Kramer
Bobby Hebert
Chris Miller
Archie Manning
Ken Stabler
Bob Griese
Fran Tarkenton
Wade Wilson
Jim McMahon
Sean Salisbury
Trent Green
Kurt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
Alex Smith
Tim Rattay
David Whitehurst
Philip Rivers
Dan Fouts
Jim Plunkett
Don Majkowski
Steve Bartkowski
Zeke Bratkowski
Bart Starr
Don Meredith
Len Dawson
Daryle Lamonica
George Blanda
Sid Luckman
Tobin Rote
Lamar McHan
Bobby Layne
Scott Mitchell
Erik Kramer
Steve Walsh
Quincy Carter
Randy Wright
Jim Del Gaizo
Carlos Brown
Don Milan
Blair Kiel
Anthony Dilweg
TJ Rubley
Warren Moon
Kordell Stewart
Neil O'Donnell
Johnny Unitas
Jake Plummer
Drew Brees
Terry Hanratty
Jim Sorgi
Chad Pennington
Brad Johnson
Tavaris Jackson
Rex Grossman
Craig Krenzel
Jonathan Quinn
Will Fuerer
Peter Tom Willis
Alan Risher
Greg Landry
Eric Hipple
Gary Danielson
Neil Lomax
Jim Hart
Sonny Jurgensen
Billy Kilmer
Norm Van Brocklin
Roman Gabriel
Bobby Douglass
Don Horn
Scott Hunter
James Harris
John Hadl
Lynn Dickey
Gary Huff
Kent Nix
Jack Concannon
Virgil Carter
Tony Eason
Steve Grogan
Rusty Lisch
Todd Marinovich
Aaron Brooks
Michael Vick
Todd Bouman
Aaron Rodgers
Ingle Martin
Danny Weurfel
Shane Matthews
Joey Harrington
Daunte Culpepper
Eli Manning
Tony Romo
Brian Griese
Brooks Bollinger
Scott Brunner
Richard Todd
David Woodley
Don Strock
Donovan McNabb
Ron Jaworski
Joe Pisarcik
Steve Pisarkiewicz
Matt Robinson
Joe Namath
Earl Morrall
Craig Morton
Norris Weese
Bill Kenney
Steve Fuller
Ken Anderson
Brian Sipe
Mike Phipps
Vince Evans
Pat Haden
Vince Ferragamo
Steve Dils
Jerry Tagge

You forgot Boomer Esiason.
I also forgot Rick Mirer.

[esoxx]

Where is Jim O'Brien? Surely this is an incomplete list.

[mraynrand]

Kent Nix?

[woodbuck27]

let's assume they are all in their prime.

Same talent and you are the coach.

Now you've simplified the question B.

These are three very talented QB's, yet with confidence.

Brett Favre gets the nod over Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

The reason is his pure focused desire to win. Brett Favre seldom looks like a QB on the verge of losing.He's neither a nailbiter or I'll just bury my head on the sideline type.

Brett Favre as a leader defines what winning is.

Do we really know how much winning has passed us by as Packer fans, because we don't see a balls to the walls approach to putting together a team to support what Favre brings to the table.