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Brando19
01-30-2007, 05:00 PM
Veteran long snapper Rob Davis signed a one-year contract extension with the Green Bay Packers earlier this month, according to his agent. Davis was scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent on March 2.
Davis’ agent, Kevin M. Gold, told PackerReport.com that his client received a deal similar to the one-year contract that he signed last season, including a modest bonus. Davis will earn a league-minimum base salary of $820,000, but count only $435,000 against the team’s salary cap in accordance with the league’s Collective Bargaining Agreement. The salary cap is projected to be about $109 million in 2007. Davis received a $40,000 bonus upon completion of the team’s off-season workout program, which begins March 19, as part of the deal, Gold said.

"Rob was happy to be able to stay in Green Bay for another season and the Packers were very interested in having him back and maintaining the stability he provides in the locker room and to the kicking and punting units," Gold said.

Davis, 38, is the oldest of the players on Green Bay’s roster, but still a very effective long snapper. He is returning for an 11th season in Green Bay and 12th overall in the NFL.

Davis, at the height of his career, signed a multi-year deal with the Packers in March of 2001. He has played in 151 straight games for Green Bay, second on the team to quarterback Brett Favre, and he showed no signs of regression with his snaps in 2006.

“It was understood at the last meeting that I would like to remain a Packer," Davis said. "I have roots set up here, I have quite a few friends outside of the organization, so we make this our home year-round. I was certainly willing to seek other places, but at this point in my career, I’d just like to finish up in Green Bay if I could.”

Other players scheduled to become unrestricted free agents for the Packers on March 2, including running back Ahman Green, tight ends Donald Lee and David Martin, linebackers Ben Taylor and Tracy White, and defensive tackle Kenderick Allen. Defensive lineman Cullen Jenkins will be a restricted free agent in March, allowing the Packers some leverage in negotiations because they can tender him a contract that ensures their right to match any deal he signs in free agency, or receive a high draft pick as compensation.

Pacopete4
01-30-2007, 05:27 PM
so favres back?........

Joemailman
01-30-2007, 05:35 PM
You think Rob Davis would come back if Favre were retiring? No Way!!! This is irrefutable evidence that #4 will be back next year. :thank: :cow: :thank:

retailguy
01-30-2007, 07:01 PM
You think Rob Davis would come back if Favre were retiring? No Way!!! This is irrefutable evidence that #4 will be back next year. :thank: :cow: :thank:


You don't think that $820,000 cash had anything to do with Rob Davis' decision? Another year of credit to the pension plan too?

gbpackfan
01-30-2007, 07:02 PM
I don't know about the Favre comments, but either way, this is good news. Davis is a VERY good long snapper (player) and a good guy. A rare combination in the today's NFL.

esoxx
01-30-2007, 07:37 PM
There goes the salary cap! :lol:

BooHoo
01-30-2007, 07:49 PM
Okay, a good signing. The guy has it easy so why not stay around another year.

red
01-30-2007, 08:09 PM
well i would like to someday see us get a guy that can long snap, and contribute to the team in some other way, however, this guy i guess is a legend among long snappers, and you never have to worry about him screwing up

so i guess its a good move

billy_oliver880
01-30-2007, 09:15 PM
I think I am going to start to perfect my long snapping abilities. You will see me next year on the packer roster. :D

falco
01-30-2007, 09:27 PM
well i would like to someday see us get a guy that can long snap, and contribute to the team in some other way, however, this guy i guess is a legend among long snappers, and you never have to worry about him screwing up

so i guess its a good move

A lot of teams don't even have a long snapper, so it wouldn't surprise me one way or another if Davis is eventually replaced. Its probably a position where you can get a undrafted free agent to fill as a rookie (that guy from Wisconsin just recently comes to mind).

I wouldn't be surprised if a large part of his resigning is the veteran presence he brings the team. I've read where he is a great locker room leader, and a mentor to the younger players.

MJZiggy
01-30-2007, 09:31 PM
You say that now, but when we get someone else in there and have a bunch of botched snaps and blocked kicks because the snapper couldn't get into position...I can't recall the last time Davis made a mistake and that is why he's back I think.

oregonpackfan
01-30-2007, 09:54 PM
Just ask the Dallas Cowboys about the value of a long snapper!

Before Romo botched the snap that led to the botched field goal attempt, he had to reach high and to his right to catch the snap. Though he did make a clean catch, I think the extra reach caused him to hurry the placement leading to the fumble.

If the snap had been true, Romo probably would not have been rushed and he makes a clean placement with no fumble. The field goal probably would have been good.

The field goal attempt was blown, the Cowboys lost the game, and were knocked out of the playoffs. All for the want of a clean snap.

OPF

Patler
01-31-2007, 12:38 AM
A lot of teams don't even have a long snapper, so it wouldn't surprise me one way or another if Davis is eventually replaced.

A lot of teams? How about one, maybe 2?

20 teams teams have their snapper listed as "LS", with no other position.
5 have their snapper listed as a TE, but they are not on the depth chart at TE and they have no receiving stats in their careers.
2 list their snapper as a back, but do not include him on the depth chart and they have no stats.
Miami lists theirs as a DE, but not at DE on the depth chart. He has 9 total tackles in 2 seasons, probably all as the snapper.

Tenn lists theirs as the 7th linebacker on their depth chart.
NYJ lists theirs at #3 on the TE depth chart. He had 3 receptions in 2001, none since.

Dave Moore now in Tampa Bay was a legitimate TE for years, but is now listed as the 4th TE on the Bucs depth chart.

The only remaining legitimate player is Adam Treau at Oakland who has been the starting center while being the snapper.

Long snapper has become a specialist on virtually all teams.

Guiness
01-31-2007, 02:14 AM
Falco/Red have been Patlerized!

I was reading through the thread and was thinking the same thing myself - WHAT team doesn't have a specialist LS?? I would guess that some contribute on ST's for kickoff coverage, that that's all. I even doubt any play on the return teams.

Rob Davis is solid, and is consistently at the top of the list for ST tackles, despite being the snapper! We will miss him when he goes, particularly the first time we see Ryan chasing a bouncing ball down the field :shock:

pittstang5
01-31-2007, 06:58 AM
This is good. Hopefully this starts a trend of many more Packer players that are deserving of new deals.

gbpackfan
01-31-2007, 07:38 AM
If you can learn how to effectively long snap and be some what athletic, you can make a damn good living doing very little. Rob Davis has a great, great gig!

swede
01-31-2007, 07:41 AM
So...is Rob Davis a HOF LS?

There ought to be at least one in the Hall, eh?

falco
01-31-2007, 07:58 AM
Hey I wasn't saying anything bad about Rob Davis, I'm glad he's coming back. I still would argue, however, that if he wasn't it wouldn't be the end of the world (ala Longwell).

I have a right to make uninformed statements, based on the fact I don't have time to carefully examine the depth charts for all 32 teams to make a point.

prsnfoto
01-31-2007, 08:42 AM
I am very happy with this signing Rob is a total class act. Last year when he DD,Bubba and Harlan were on the bus tour they stopped at my local pub and I bought Rob a beer he talked to me and my buddy for 15 minutes and was a hoot. He told us he was lucky to have the greatest job in the world, he lives in a house like you and me and loves Greenbay. He laughed and said look at the bling around Bubba's neck and DD two 5 carat earrings and said thats the difference between 5 million a year and 900,000 and said he was never really into men wearing jewelry and Donald threw an empty beer cup at him. Pretty cool guy other than Jerry Kramer and Hornung that was the longest time I have ever spend with a Packer. Oh ya and he predicted they would be 500 or a little better and he thought Brett would play last year and one more we'll see he's got the first half right.

red
01-31-2007, 09:26 AM
well, due to patler sticking his nose in yet another disscusion and screwing it all up with FACTS

i guess theres really nothing you can say against this move. if LS truely has become a position, i guess you keep the best. so it looks like a good move. and he is a class guy and a good leader

on to the next topic

why can't kickers also be punters? or punters be kickers? why do we need two guys to kick the ball? they have more then enough time to practise both conditions, and kicking is kicking, there isn't that much of a difference in a punt and a kick. in fact some punters are the kickoff guys on their team.

i want that extra roster spot, i want to have more then 3 WR's or 2.5 cb's when week 9 comes around every year

Patler
01-31-2007, 09:44 AM
why can't kickers also be punters? or punters be kickers? why do we need two guys to kick the ball? they have more then enough time to practise both conditions, and kicking is kicking, there isn't that much of a difference in a punt and a kick. in fact some punters are the kickoff guys on their team.


For the same reasons that you have "third down" backs, linebackers who play on first and second down, maybe, but never on third down, pass rush specialists, and all the other reasons that the teams have about 15 "starters" on both offense and defense.

To get to your point more directly, there was an article by a kicking coach who argued that the leg movements are substantially different for placekicking and for punting. Each, he said, puts different demands on different muscles, etc. Accordingly, to do both the player compromises his abilities in each. Not saying that I agree with it, but it the is the logic applied in pro sports today.

I fully expect to see QB platooning in the future, with a "handoff specialist" and a "throwing specialist". :mrgreen:

Zool
01-31-2007, 11:27 AM
Lets say you have a combo punter/kicker on your team and he gets hurt. Having 2 on your roster would be necessary anyways for a backup, so essentially they are backing each other up.

red
01-31-2007, 01:01 PM
applied in pro sports today.

I fully expect to see QB platooning in the future, with a "handoff specialist" and a "throwing specialist". :mrgreen:

like what atlanta should be doing?

we're going to have guys just on the roster to be the holder soon. dallas might be the first to try this

K-town
01-31-2007, 01:07 PM
we're going to have guys just on the roster to be the holder soon. dallas might be the first to try this

I seem to remember a sem-Pro team in the 70s or 80s that had the first woman to play for a men's Professional football team. She was the holder for all PATs and FGs. The kicker was her husband. When the husband was cut, she got the chop as well.
Now, if we're going to have specialist holders, we might see this possiblity in the NFL. If I'm the long snapper, sending the ball back to holding specialist Evangeline Lilly would be a nice little perk.

BTW - didn't the Iggles bring back Koy Detmer for their playoff game SPECIFICALLY to hold?