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http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070211/PKR01/702110746/1989

Is GM Ted Thompson on right track? By Pete Dougherty Packersnews.com

The Green Bay Packers are riding a small wave. Under first-year coach Mike McCarthy, they finished the 2006 season with a four-game winning streak that gave them an 8-8 record, a four-game improvement from 2005. Then just more than a week ago, quarterback Brett Favre announced he's returning for his 17th NFL season. But while the 37-year-old Favre gives them their best chance to win in 2007, it also might make it harder to judge just how much progress General Manager Ted Thompson has made in rebuilding the team since CEO Bob Harlan hired him two years ago. Favre probably is down to his final season or two, and as the 21 years between Bart Starr's retirement and Favre's arrival suggest, a team is lucky if a Hall of Fame-type quarterback comes along once in a generation. So, even though Favre's no longer an elite quarterback, he's still a good one, and when he retires, where will Thompson's Packers be then? Without Favre, how much progress has Thompson made in two seasons as GM, a short time in which he's changed over three-quarters of the roster with his build-via-the-draft philosophy? "I was here in the '70s and '80s, and I saw how often we were looking for a quarterback," Harlan said in a recent interview. "What you have to hope with what Ted Thompson is doing with the draft and the free agents he's brought in, we're strengthening ourselves defensively and the rest of the ballclub, including special teams, to the point where you can make up a little for the absence of that great quarterback once he leaves." As Harlan said, Thompson appears to be building the Packers as a defensive-oriented, cold-weather team. Last year, his top draft pick (A.J. Hawk) and three main free-agent signings (Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett and Marquand Manuel) were defensive players. "You have to be able to play defense, and you have to be able to run the ball," Thompson said. "Normally, those teams are the ones that — even though other teams are kind of successful in the playoffs — can hang in in the playoffs." Both Harlan and team President John Jones pointed to the Packers' record and strong finish as tangible proof that Thompson's roster makeover and rebuilding philosophy are on the right track. Though Harlan hired Thompson, the GM's fate rests with Jones, who takes over running the franchise at the team's board of directors meeting in late May. Harlan then will receive emeritus status. Harlan said though the decision won't be his and there's no set formula for judging a GM, he'd give Thompson at least four drafts to show he can build a quality program. Jones, who will make that decision, wholeheartedly endorsed Thompson in an interview this week and characterized Thompson as an "excellent" talent evaluator whose work is "meticulous" and decisions "are well thought-out." Building through the draft can take time, and Jones has the call on how much time Thompson gets. Thompson is entering the third year of a five-year contract, and Jones at least suggested he'll likely give Thompson the time similar to what Harlan espoused. "I don't know that there is a so-called standard of any kind," Jones said when asked about the standards on which he'll judge Thompson. "If you know someone as well as I know Ted — we've both been in this organization before Ted left, and in terms of the respect I have (for him) and the respect Ted has in this building, it's very significant, and then around the league as well. "We're definitely, in my opinion, on the right track, and Ted is giving us what we need in terms of talent and direction, along with Coach McCarthy, that we're going to be a factor in this (NFC North) Division for years to come." Thompson is heading into his third offseason with total control over the Packers' football operations, and no doubt he's run with his mandate to rebuild the team. Besides firing former coach Mike Sherman last year and hiring McCarthy to replace him, Thompson has remade the team's roster: Of the 74 players who were on the active roster, injured reserve and practice squad at the end of the 2004 season, right before Thompson became GM, only 19 remain. That means 75 percent of the players have turned over. Also, McCarthy's starting lineup for the final game last season contained 12 different players than Sherman had in his final game as a dual coach-GM in '05: receiver Greg Jennings (for Robert Ferguson), guards Daryn Colledge and Jason Spitz (for Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera), center Scott Wells (for Grey Reugamer), defensive tackles Pickett and Corey Williams (for Grady Jackson and Cletidus Hunt), defensive end Cullen Jenkins (for Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila), linebacker Brady Poppinga (for Hannibal Navies), linebacker Hawk (for Na'il Diggs), cornerback Woodson (for Ahmad Carroll), and safeties Nick Collins and Manuel (for Darren Sharper and Mark Roman). "It was time to make some changes and add some new core players to the team," Thompson said. By the end of last season, the results looked favorable because McCarthy held the team together and finished with four straight wins. The young offensive line improved steadily, and moving Jenkins to the primary right defensive end for the final four games seemed especially helpful for the run defense. The Packers also finished 5-1 in the NFC North Division. However, their 1-7 record against teams that finished .500 or better raises questions about how far along this unusually young team has come. The only win was against a Chicago Bears team that had clinched the best record in the NFC, though it was a convincing 26-7 win. Also, among the losses were embarrassing blowouts at home to the Bears (26-0 in the opener), New England (35-0) and the New York Jets (38-10). "Yeah, that concerns me," Harlan said. "But on the other hand, look what we did in the division, where we were very strong. The team was a much different team in December than it was back in September. That's a good sign, because the team made progress. You hope you're going to be stronger at the end of the year than you were at the beginning; we certainly were that. "I compliment the coaches, because they kept the team together. When you're sitting there at 4-8, a lot of these young guys start to hit the wall because they're just out of college, and yet these guys didn't hit the wall, they hung in there and did improve themselves. That's a great sign." Thompson heads into an offseason in which he'll try to build on last year's personnel upgrades on defense while adding some playmaking talent for what could be Favre's final season. The Packers' lone unrestricted free agent of note is halfback Ahman Green, whom Thompson already has said he wants to re-sign. Green will be one of the best halfbacks available in free agency, but his combination of age (he turns 30 on Feb. 17) and serious quadriceps tendon tear in '05 will hurt his value on the open market and improves the odds he'll re-sign with the Packers. With a little more than $25 million in salary-cap room, Thompson also is looking to make long-term deals with defensive end Cullen Jenkins, who's a restricted free agent, and linebacker Nick Barnett, who has one year left on his contract. Plus, it appears Thompson is amenable to upgrading cornerback Al Harris' contract. Whether all three get done this offseason remains to be seen, but the Packers can retain Jenkins regardless by offering him either a first-round contract tender or perhaps a second-rounder, and Barnett hasn't threatened to stage any holdouts if his deal isn't redone. Thompson then will have the draft, which includes the 16th pick overall in the first round, and free agency to augment the team. Thompson is early enough in his rebuilding that he could draft or sign players at almost any position, and the chances of filling all holes with quality players are slim, if they exist at all. But in no particular order, he'll be looking to:

1. Upgrade...at starting safety;
2. Find a No. 3 cornerback;
3. Find a receiver for a spot in the top-three rotation;
4. Find a running back good enough to share time with Green or be the starter if Green doesn't re-sign;
5. Find a tight end who's a quality receiving threat.

Thompson has proven he'll rely mainly on the draft to rebuild, but last year he showed he's not averse to free agency when he surprisingly paid $10.5 million in first-year money to sign Woodson; signed Pickett to a four-year deal that averages $3.5 million and included $5 million in first-year bonuses; and signed Manuel as a lower-tier free agent with a $1.5 million bonus. "If (Thompson) sees somebody he thinks definitely can help the ballclub and make a major contribution, and is in a price area he's comfortable, he was going to do it," Harlan said. "He would say to me last winter, 'I'm not going to spend money just to say to people, "We're spending a lot of money on players."' That's the proper attitude to take. I wouldn't argue with that all." A look at the top free agents at every position. This is a list of top free agents at each position. The list likely will change by the time free agency starts March 2, because, for instance, the Indianapolis Colts are expected to put their franchise tag on defensive end Dwight Freeney. Also, restricted free agents — designated as RFA on the list — could be offered a second-round tender, a first-round tender or a first- and third-round tender, which means any team signing them would have to give up even higher draft picks if the original team doesn't match. Some quality players also might be cut before free agency begins for salary-cap reasons as well.

Quarterbacks
1. Matt Schaub, Atlanta (RFA, 3rd round)
2. Jeff Garcia, Philadelphia
3. Damon Huard, Kansas City
4. Tim Rattay, Tampa Bay
5. Marques Tuiasosopo, Oakland

Running backs
1. Michael Turner, San Diego (RFA, 5th round)
2. Jamal Lewis, Baltimore
3. Ahman Green, Green Bay
4. Dominic Rhodes, Indianapolis
5. Ron Dayne, Houston

Receivers
1. Donte Stallworth, Philadelphia
2. Drew Bennett, Tennessee
3. Kevin Curtis, St. Louis
4. Ashley Lelie, Atlanta
5. D.J. Hackett, Seattle (RFA, 5th round)

Tight ends
1. Daniel Graham, New England
2. Jerramy Stevens, Seattle
3. Ben Utecht, Indianapolis (RFA, undrafted)
4. Mike Seidman, Carolina
5. Eric Johnson, San Francisco

Tackles
1. Leonard Davis, Arizona
2. Marc Colombo, Dallas
3. Sean Locklear, Seattle (RFA, 3rd round)
4. Jon Stinch-comb, New Orleans
5. Damion McIntosh, Miami

Guards
1. Eric Steinbach, Cincinnati
2. Kris Dielman, San Diego
3. Andre Gurode, Dallas
4. Jake Scott, Indianapolis (RFA, 5th round)
5. Derrick Dockery, Washington

Centers
1. Al Johnson, Dallas
2. Hank Fraley, Cleveland
3. Kendyl Jacox, Miami
4. Alex Steponovich, Arizona (RFA, 4th round)
5. Cory Withrow, Minnesota

Defensive ends
1. Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis
2. Jared Allen, Kansas City (RFA, 4th round)
3. Justin Smith, Cincinnati
4. Patrick Kerney, Atlanta
5. Charles Grant, New Orleans

Defensive tackles
1. Ian Scott, Chicago
2. Cory Redding, Detroit
3. Vonnie Holliday, Miami
4. Randy Starks, Tennessee (RFA, 3rd round)
5. Terdell Sands, Oakland

Linebackers
1. Lance Briggs, Chicago
2. Adalius Thomas, Baltimore
3. Shaun Phillips, San Diego (RFA, 4th round)
4. London Fletcher, Buffalo
5. Cato June, Indianapolis

Cornerbacks
1. Nate Clements, Buffalo
2. Asante Samuel, New England
3. Nick Harper, Indianapolis
4. David Macklin, Arizona
5. Kenny Wright, Washington

Safeties
1. Ken Hamlin, Seattle
2. Michael Lewis, Philadelphia
3. Gibril Wilson, N.Y. Giants (RFA, 5th round)
4. Deon Grant, Jacksonville
5. Terrance Holt, Detroit
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MCGINN AT PACKER INSIDER: PERSONNEL MOVES RATING: B-plus)

GM Ted Thompson followed a dismal first season with a very good second season. The draft is his baby, and after turning seven selections into 12 via five trades on April 29 he got more than his money's worth in Year One. Four rookies started, and all four could make the all-rookie team. A fifth started 10 games and five others at least made the club. The only miss was WR Cory Rodgers in the fourth round. Although Thompson ultimately decided to deal Javon Walker for too little compensation (second-round pick), it was Mike Sherman and Brett Favre who poisoned the environment for his return. In all, the draft choices made 65 starts. In unrestricted free agency, Thompson got good value from Woodson and Pickett in the first year. His signing of Manuel rather than free-agent safeties Chris Hope, Marlon McCree, Lawyer Milloy and Corey Chavous was a blunder. Dealing Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency was a plus, as was the scrap-heap discoveries of Carlyle Holiday, Ruvell Martin, Jason Hunter, White, Rayner and Ryan. Signing troubled WR Koren Robinson Sept. 11 was a year too late and somewhat naïve. Thompson let seven unrestricted veterans go Mike Flanagan, Tony Fisher, Longwell and Jackson, among them) and cut nine veterans from March to July, but in hindsight it's hard to find fault with any of the decisions. He re-signed Scott Wells Nov. 6 but hasn't made a hard move yet on Jenkins...."

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FINALLY, PACKNUT'S REMARKS IN HIS COLUMN, ECHOED IN THREADS:

..."Now that Favre has committed for another season, the responsibility for real team improvement falls on the shoulders of Packers' head coach Mike McCarthy and general manager Ted Thompson. For McCarthy, his job is to dump the maximum protect schemes that limited his offense’s firepower and incorporate an offense more conductive to his quarterback’s strength. He will have to trust that a year of experience for his offensive line will be enough to provide protection for his future hall of fame quarterback. However, the most responsibility for restoring the Packer mystique falls on the shoulders of Packer GM Ted Thompson. Armed with about $29 million in cap space, Thompson must find a few offensive playmakers to help Favre out. Anything less on Thompson’s part is unacceptable. Favre has played two straight seasons with arena type wide receivers and tight ends that couldn’t catch a cold. Thompson owes #4 and now it’s time to pay up...."

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http://packers.scout.com

Method to his madness. by Sidney Scout.com Thompson has been making all the right moves for Packers....

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http://www.nflpa.org/NewsAndEvents/ImportantDates.aspx

February 21 - 27, 2007
The NFL Scouting Combine

March 2, Friday
Free Agency period begins
Trading period begins for 2007

April 20, Friday
Deadline for signing and submission of Offer Sheets by Restricted Free Agents

April 28, Saturday & April 29, Sunday
NFL Draft in New York City, NY

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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/powerrankings

We currently sit at #23 in the Power Ranking.

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http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/sp_fbn_patriots09_02-09-07_BV4BI96.17ac39c.html

New England Patriots

2 Pats not interested in being tagged as franchise player

01:00 AM EST on Friday, February 9, 2007

BY SHALISE MANZA YOUNG

Journal Sports Writer

Patriots’ Asante Samuel improved his negotiating position by returning two interceptions in the playoffs for TDs, including this one against the Jets.

The Providence Journal / GLENN OSMUNDSON
The window for NFL teams to designate franchise or transitional players opened yesterday, and will close on Feb. 22.

But there was no news on which player the Patriots might tag for the upcoming season.

Of the 14 soon-to-be unrestricted free agents New England has on its roster, there are two, corner Asante Samuel and tight end Daniel Graham, that would most likely be designated as the team’s franchise player.

Since Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli took over in New England in 2000, they have franchised just two players — Adam Vinatieri and Tebucky Jones. It’s worth noting that the positions those men play — kicker and safety, respectively — have two of the three lowest franchise figures. The figure in the middle? Tight end.

The 2007 amount to franchise a tight end is $4.371 million, while the number for cornerbacks is $7.79 million (quarterback is the most expensive position, with a $12.615 million salary amount). The Pats are projected to have about $27 million in cap space this year.

Samuel’s agent, Alonzo Shavers, was to have a meeting with Patriots brass on Wednesday, but with Belichick in Hawaii coaching the AFC team in the Pro Bowl, not much is expected to happen until he returns. Samuel and Shavers are on the record as saying that the fourth-year corner, who had a breakout season at exactly the right time, would not be happy if he were to be franchised.

The team and Shavers were in negotiations about a contract extension during the season, but tabled the talks in October. New England apparently was offering a five-year deal, but the annual salary was nowhere near the nearly $8 million Samuel would make this season were he to be franchised. On the eve of the playoffs, Samuel was quoted in the Boston Globe as saying the offer "isn’t even worth discussing."

A fourth-round draft pick out of Central Florida, Samuel had 10 regular-season interceptions, including a three-pick game against the Bears in November. He also had 62 tackles (56 solo), 24 passes defensed and a forced fumble. In the playoffs, the man who has a tattoo stating "Get paid" made himself even more money, with two more interceptions, both of which he returned for touchdowns.

Last year, corner Charles Woodson signed a seven-year, $52-million contract with Green Bay with a reported $4 million signing bonus. But Woodson has something on his resume — namely, four trips to the Pro Bowl — that helped drive up his price. Despite tying for the league lead in interceptions with Pats’ nemesis, Champ Bailey, Samuel was not chosen for the Pro Bowl.

As for Graham, there are rumblings that he wants out of New England, but neither he nor his agent, Jack Mills, have said anything publicly about his contract. Calls to Mills were not returned.

Teams can franchise one player per season, giving him a one year, guaranteed salary equal to the average salary of the five highest-paid players at his position. Other teams can offer the player a contract, but the original team has seven days to match it. If the original team does not match the offer and the player signs with another team, it receives the first-round draft pick of the new team for the next two years.

Transitional players receive a salary equal to the average of the top 10 highest-paid players at their position. Teams can still tender a new offer sheet, and the original team still has seven days to match any new offers, but there is no compensation to the original team if a transition player goes to another club.

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http://pu2006.typepad.com/packerupdate/ Packer Update

While the Packers sit out a second consecutive postseason, we asked a former scout to analyze the current roster and list the top five things GM Ted Thompson needs to do in the coming months to get Green Bay back to the playoffs in 2007...:

1. ACQUIRE A BIG-PLAY BACK - “Guys like Brian Westbrook (Eagles) and Maurice Jones-Drew (Jaguars) are awfully hard to find, but boy are they valuable. While Ahman Green still has a little something left in the tank, he’s no longer a threat to go the distance. And without an eighth man forced into the box, opposing coordinators are able to flood the secondary with defensive backs and clog up the passing lanes. Plus, Westbrook and Jones-Drew are able to line up wide and create mismatches all over the field. I know the team preferred bigger backs under [ex-GM] Ron Wolf, but it’s a new century and the game has changed.”

2. ADD A DEEP [VERTICAL] THREAT - “The Packers have quite a few talented young receivers, but none of them are true burners. The offense needs a legitimate vertical threat. I know that Donald Driver and Greg Jennings can get behind the defense on occasion, but that’s not their game. Look at what Bernard Berrian means to the Bears. Those big-play guys keep a defense from squatting down on slants and crossing routes – the staples of any West Coast offense. Philly probably won’t re-sign Donte' Stallworth prior to the start of free agency, so maybe he could be an option. Regardless, that’s the type of receiver this offense needs in 2007.”

3. FIND A THIRD CORNER - “God bless Patrick Dendy. He played his ass off as the nickel back last season, but you can’t expect to compete against top quarterbacks and wide receivers with that kid in a prominent role. I know the coaches really like Will Blackmon, but for all intents and purposes, he’ll be a rookie in 2007. Plus, can he even stay on the field? Thompson has to sign a veteran in free agency and/or draft a stud early. And since Charles Woodson struggles against slot receivers, someone who could play inside would be ideal.”

4. REPLACE MANUEL – “It’s time for the Packers to stop playing games. If they want to sign a starting safety in free agency, then they should sign a starting safety. The last two guys (Mark Roman and Marquand Manuel) were career backups for a reason. Of the five positions on this list, safety should be the easiest to fill. Thompson doesn’t have to find a star, he just needs a guy with good ball skills. And, of course, somebody who actually understands the concept of playing deeper than the deepest wide receiver. Nick Collins will be fine; you just have to give him a competent partner.”

5. GET A REAL TIGHT END – “The Packers carried four tight ends in 2006 and none of them could play. A legitimate receiving threat at this position would immediately make the offense more effective in the red zone. Plus, by being able to send the tight end down the seam, the middle of the field would open up for crossing routes and screens. This is my number one priority for two reasons. The first is how bad the current tight ends are, and the second is just how much of a difference this one player could make. Bubba Franks and David Martin are solid backups, but neither has any business starting on a good team.”


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"The Packers are looking pretty good financially once again this year. We should have an estimated $28.36 Million in cap room. Figure about 6 mil for the draft. Last year we made a bit of a splash picking up some big names in free agency including Charles Woodson, Ryan Pickett, and Marquand Manuel. 2 of those three were excellent choices and immediate upgrades. In 2007, the free agency class is looking pretty light. There really arent a lot of names that jump out at you. I just dont see TT spending a lot of money to address problems here unless he sees potential. So, lets look at where our management might be willing to spend its money in 2007:

1. Quarterbacks We have Brett Favre, the face of the Packers and then we are uncomfortable with what happens after him. We have draft picks in Ingle Martin and Aaron Rodgers who are quite unproven. I dont see bringing in another draft pick with "potential" at least not early in the draft. I could see bringing in a veteran to compete down the road.
Free Agents are Matt Schaub, Jeff Garcia, Damon Huard, Tim Rattay, Marques Tuiasosopo, Rohan Davey, Shaun King, John Navarre, and Anthony Wright. I dont see paying for Schaub, but we might bring in a lower tier guy into camp.
2. Running backs Our situation with RB's is a mess. I think its more than probable that we bring back Green with an incentive laden contact and use a high draft pick to address the position. Morency has done OK but is not the long term answer. There is nobody outside Michael Turner worth looking at in free agency. X Factor here is Fullback Justin Griffith from Atlanta. Familiar with zone blocking, etc. It would be an upgrade.
3. Receivers Another big need area. Driver is a consistant force and Jennings slowed down after a quick start. We need another playmaker. Free agency brings Donte Stallworth, Drew Bennett, Kevin Curtis, Ashley Lelie, Patrick Crayton, and D.J. Hackett. I think we go the way of the rookie here and use the draft. Moss is the X factor. If there is any truth to the rumors, we would be able to afford his contract this year.
4. Tight ends Bubba did not get the job done in 2006. "But he is a good blocker" doesnt cut it. He should not start in 07. We could spend some money here. Drafting TE's is a crapshoot. The best TE in football was undrafted. Free agents are Daniel Graham, Jerramy Stevens, Ben Utecht, Mike Seidman, and Eric Johnson. We could be in the market for any of these.
5. O-line We have Tauscher through 2008 and Clifton through 2009. Might be a good time to start thinking about extending Tauscher. Moll Spitz College performed solid as rookies and should continue to get better. Draft late for depth. No free agent needs here.
6. Defensive Line I want you to understand some things from a financial managers point of view. We have 16 million dollars tied up in Kampman, KGB, and Pickett. Our D-line accounts for 3 of the top six highest paid players on the team. I dont think we can afford to contiue down this road. KGB isnt playing up to his pay rate. I can see him involved in a trade. Cullen Jenkins was great at the end of the year. Problem is I dont see paying both Jenkins and KGB.
7. Linebackers We are set at LB. Best group I have ever seen play in green and gold. Lets keep it that way. I see us spending a little xtra cash to keep Barnett long term.
8. Cornerbacks I know you guys want to see Nate Clements here, but it will not happen. The #2 and #9 highest paid guys on the team are our starting corners. #9 wants more money and most of you seem to want to give it to him. I see us drafting the eventual replacements starting in the nickel spot.
9. Safeties I think that our pure inability to find a safety in free agency will make us go elsewhere. I do not think Manuel will start in 07, but I also do not think another FA is the answer especially another Free agent safety from the same team. I think we hae a friendly competition with what we have plus some depth in the draft....In sum our millions of xtra money could be spent here: 1. Free agent tight-end 2. Moss trade (picking up his modified contract) 3. Player extentions (Cullen Jenkins, Nick Barnett, Corey Williams, Ruvell Martin) 4. Depth."

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http://pu2006.typepad.com/packerupdate/ Packer Update

While the Packers sit out a second consecutive postseason, we asked a former scout to analyze the current roster and list the top five things GM Ted Thompson needs to do in the coming months to get Green Bay back to the playoffs in 2007...:

1. ACQUIRE A BIG-PLAY BACK - “Guys like Brian Westbrook (Eagles) and Maurice Jones-Drew (Jaguars) are awfully hard to find, but boy are they valuable. While Ahman Green still has a little something left in the tank, he’s no longer a threat to go the distance. And without an eighth man forced into the box, opposing coordinators are able to flood the secondary with defensive backs and clog up the passing lanes. Plus, Westbrook and Jones-Drew are able to line up wide and create mismatches all over the field. I know the team preferred bigger backs under [ex-GM] Ron Wolf, but it’s a new century and the game has changed.”

2. ADD A DEEP [VERTICAL] THREAT - “The Packers have quite a few talented young receivers, but none of them are true burners. The offense needs a legitimate vertical threat. I know that Donald Driver and Greg Jennings can get behind the defense on occasion, but that’s not their game. Look at what Bernard Berrian means to the Bears. Those big-play guys keep a defense from squatting down on slants and crossing routes – the staples of any West Coast offense. Philly probably won’t re-sign Donte' Stallworth prior to the start of free agency, so maybe he could be an option. Regardless, that’s the type of receiver this offense needs in 2007.”

3. FIND A THIRD CORNER - “God bless Patrick Dendy. He played his ass off as the nickel back last season, but you can’t expect to compete against top quarterbacks and wide receivers with that kid in a prominent role. I know the coaches really like Will Blackmon, but for all intents and purposes, he’ll be a rookie in 2007. Plus, can he even stay on the field? Thompson has to sign a veteran in free agency and/or draft a stud early. And since Charles Woodson struggles against slot receivers, someone who could play inside would be ideal.”

4. REPLACE MANUEL – “It’s time for the Packers to stop playing games. If they want to sign a starting safety in free agency, then they should sign a starting safety. The last two guys (Mark Roman and Marquand Manuel) were career backups for a reason. Of the five positions on this list, safety should be the easiest to fill. Thompson doesn’t have to find a star, he just needs a guy with good ball skills. And, of course, somebody who actually understands the concept of playing deeper than the deepest wide receiver. Nick Collins will be fine; you just have to give him a competent partner.”

5. GET A REAL TIGHT END – “The Packers carried four tight ends in 2006 and none of them could play. A legitimate receiving threat at this position would immediately make the offense more effective in the red zone. Plus, by being able to send the tight end down the seam, the middle of the field would open up for crossing routes and screens. This is my number one priority for two reasons. The first is how bad the current tight ends are, and the second is just how much of a difference this one player could make. Bubba Franks and David Martin are solid backups, but neither has any business starting on a good team.”


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Good assessment - RIGHT on the money.
I also think that these are 5 things that absolutely CAN be addressed THIS season.
- draft safety
- draft RB
- FA TE
- Randy Moss trade
- draft/FA nickel corner

CLENCH YOUR ASS AND HOPE FOR THE BEST

The safety - or Underwood could take that starting spot. The RB could contribute part time (like Jones-Drew). The TE could start/alternate with Bubba.

I think that that isn't too much to ask of anyone - and that we could be a contender if all these things happen.

[RashanGary]

Nice read on the original artical. Very good summary IMO. It hit on what I consider to be the most meaningfull circumstances surrounding our team.

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the team better get cracking at resigning some of our free agents before they hit the open market in 3 weeks

[Charles Woodson]

Quick question on the RFA's Do teams decide how much they want for them or how is it decided?

[Bretsky]

Quick question on the RFA's Do teams decide how much they want for them or how is it decided?

Each team places a tender on them which puts them in a certain category.

For example, IMO Green Bay will be considering options with Cullen Jenkins. Patler typed all the specifics in here a few days ago, but here are ballparks of the three options they will probably consider.

The highest tender GB could put on Jenkins would force anybody who signs Jenkins away to give us a 1st and 3rd round draft pick, but GB would then have to pay Jenkins around 2.7 MIL per year if he doesn't sign. They can match another teams offer or receive the picks.

They could also tender Jenkins just with a 1st round pick and guarantee paying him around 2.1 MIL next year.

They could also give him a 2nd round tender, and they'd be forced to pay him around 1.6 MIL per year.

Or they can give him two lower tenders which I can't remember the details on.

[Bretsky]

GIVE PATLER CREDIT FOR THIS RESEARCH

For Restricted Free Agents with three Accrued Seasons:

(1) Right of First Refusal: one year Player Contract with Paragraph 5 Salary of at least $721,600 for the 2006 League Year, $850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $927,000 for the 2008 League Year, $1,010,000 for the 2009 League Year, $1,101,000 for the 2010 League Year, $1,200,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $1,308,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable;

(2) Right of First Refusal and Draft Selection at Player’s Original Draft Round: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) the amount set forth in Subsection (b)(i)(1) above, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged (this Subsection is subject to the rules of Subsection (c) below);

(3) Right of First Refusal, One Second Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,300,000 in the 2007 League Year, $1,417,000 in the 2008 League Year, $1,545,000 in the 2009 League Year, $1,684,000 in the 2010 League Year, $1,835,000 in the 2011 League Year, or $2,000,000 in the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;

(4) Right of First Refusal and One First Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $1,573,000 for the 2006 League Year, $1,850,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,017,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,198,000 for the 2009 League Year, $2,396,000 for the 2010 League Year, $2,611,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $2,846,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged

(5) Right of First Refusal, One First Round Draft Selection, and One Third Round Draft Selection: one year Player Contract with a Paragraph 5 Salary of at least (a) $2,096,600 for the 2006 League Year, $2,350,000 for the 2007 League Year, $2,562,000 for the 2008 League Year, $2,792,000 for the 2009 League Year, $3,043,000 for the 2010 League Year, $3,317,000 for the 2011 League Year, or $3,616,000 for the 2012 League Year, as applicable, or (b) 110% of the player’s prior year’s Paragraph 5 Salary, whichever is greater; in addition, if option (b) applies, all other terms of the player’s prior year contract are carried forward unchanged;

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Plan of attack By Tyler Dunne Packerreport.com

...The risk/reward options that Packers general manager Ted Thompson faces as free agency and the NFL draft draw near. And to think, the Green Bay Packers nearly were forced to rely on Rod Gardner, Samkon Gado, and Aaron Rodgers as franchise saviors. After two off-seasons (and two grateful ‘I’m ins’ from Brett Favre) Ted Thompson has pumped some oxygen into a drowning organization. Sequential dreadful personnel decisions by Mike Sherman easily could have buried Green Bay into a five-year dormancy stage. Yet after suffering through one 4-12 season with Sherman’s outcasts while toasting in salary cap hell, Thompson has been nearly flawless. His trade-down draft philosophy has reinvigorated the team with plenty of youth and promise. Yet he has still remained focused on the present by dishing out major dough to Ryan Pickett and Charles Woodson. In a league where teams are either in a full-fledged ‘win-now’ phase habitually gambling on aging high-priced free agents (see Dan Snyder), or are spinning their tires in rebuilding mode (see Matt Millen), Thompson has found the happy medium. [MAYBE] He realizes the future health of the franchise is premium, but there is always a sense of urgency to win in the present, especially with Favre under center. With $24.1 million in his holster, expect Thompson to continue this effective half-and-half style. He won’t mortgage the future for quick fixes, but the Packers are certainly on the cusp of playoff contention which translates to a couple hefty paydays to offensive playmakers. After last season’s spending spree on Day One of free agency left a shell-shocked Green Bay front office reaching for Marquand Manuel as their first signee, Thompson must react with rational decisiveness. The talent pool is slim pickings at RB, WR, and TE, but here is a map that the GM could use as a guideline to send Favre off in style. The Packers’ season truly begins on March 2. A handful of colossal risk/reward options await in Thompson’s wake.

1. Stockpile running backs. It will be very interesting to see how many teams pursue Ahman Green, who is 46 yards away from shattering Jim Taylor’s half-century team rushing record....The only other premier backs available are Michael Turner, Dominic Rhodes and maybe Chris Brown (if you’re the type who likes injury-prone string beans that share the same name as teen pop idols). In other words, the almost-30 year old Green will likely be overpaid in a textbook supply and demand scenario. But with the cap room, retaining Green should be a priority for Thompson. A new era has dawned upon the NFL. After a backfield-by-committee mentality lifted Chicago, New Orleans, New England, and Indianapolis to conference championships, it’s clearer than ever that NFL teams need two workhorses to win....With an offensive line that will only improve in Year Two of its development, Thompson should prioritize the rushing game. Green and Vernand Morency could develop into the modern-day Dorsey Levens-Bennett duo. There’s no telling whether Marshawn Lynch will be available at Green Bay’s 16th pick, so why let Green slip away? It’s safer to stuff a number of horses into the stable. A Green-Morency-Lynch three-headed training camp battle would exemplify everything head coach Mike McCarthy stands for: heated completion. If Green takes the money and runs out of town, it’s imperative for Thompson to respond with authority and pursue Rhodes, Turner, or a back via trade in the mold of Cincinnati’s Chris Perry. Morency should get more touches next year, but he’ll need a sidekick, or two.

2. Don’t bet on Manuel. Arguably the biggest mistake Thompson could make this off-season is to get too wrapped up in his defense’s lights-out finish to 2006....Thompson must address a secondary that’s mostly to blame for five losses in which Green Bay surrendered over 30 points. Looking lost in deep center was Marquand Manuel. Brought in as a potential run-stuffer/playmaker, Manuel failed to deliver.... Considering the team’s defensive line is as deep as it has been since the days of White-Dotson-Brown-Jones, the linebacker corp has the makings of greatness (pending a Nick Barnett contract extension), and the ‘D’ has two shutdown corners, Thompson has the luxury of inking a new strong safety to big contract. Thompson should just bite his lip, squeeze that stress ball and capitalize on a decent market of safeties that includes Ken Hamlin, Gibril Wilson, Deon Grant, and Kevin Kaesviharn (a former Packer himself). If Thompson signs one of the above and Marviel Underwood successfully recovers from his torn ACL and MCL than Manuel (and his $10 million contract) should be shown the door in training camp. As far as Thompson should be concerned, Manuel had 16 games to prove his worth last season. Green Bay’s defense has too much upside and present talent to wait for a high-priced veteran to blossom. Much like the RB position, a heated Collins-Manuel-Underwood-Culver competition would be bolstered with newcomers.

3. Driver, Jennings, and Martin....Randy Moss? Drew Bennett? Kevin Curtis? Dwayne Jarrett? Whoever it is, Thompson must acknowledge Green Bay’s starvation for vertical playmakers. It’s a small miracle that Favre almost eclipsed 4,000 yards with Greg Jennings smashing into the rookie wall and Donald Driver facing more brutal ‘cloud’ coverages than Seattle on a spring day. But believe it or not, as one-dimensional as Green Bay’s passing offense has been the past two years, it can quickly become of the league’s most diverse attacks next season. The late-season improvement of Ruvell Martin and Carlyle Holiday is encouraging, while Jennings can only improve after a respectable rookie campaign. Throw in the possibility of Koren Robinson by midseason and it’d appear Green Bay already has enough complements for the Pro-Bowler Driver....But for the Packers to take the next step, Thompson should be bold. Behind Door #1 lies the relatively safe bets. Donte Stallworth, Kevin Curtis, and Drew Bennett certainly elevate Green Bay’s air assault. Stallworth (19.1 avg. last season with PHI) has enticing big play ability, while Curtis and Bennett are as reliable as they come. Thompson could also opt to cash in on a rich WR draft class. All of the above options would come at a reasonable price and undoubtedly upgrade a veteran-thin group. But behind Door #2 lies Randy Moss and his unearthly talent....Moss and Driver would instantly compose the league’s most lethal receiving duo and make Favre appear 10 years younger. Moss brings over 10,000 yards and over 100 touchdowns to the Packers. Chances like this are rare and as G.M., it’s Ted Thompson’s duty to take the risk....Marshawn Lynch, Vernand Morency, Greg Jennings, and Ruvell Martin are lurking as more ammunition for Favre. Such a trade immediately puts Green Bay back on the map as a Super Bowl favorite. Stay tuned. What transpires over the coming months will shape the Green Bay Packers in the present and future. It’s up to Ted Thompson to make the tough decisions that will either make or break the franchise. It appears he is nestled into an effective dual-purpose management style as last season showed. If he can extend Barnett’s contract and lock up Green, the fun will begin....

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The more things change, the more they stay the same in the NFL by Joe Arrigo PackerChatters.com

As the NFL's third season starts I cannot help but to think about all the great teams in NFL history and how they were-are built. As I watch how the Packers are potentially being built, I will compare them to other NFL teams in their glory days and show how in the NFL the more things change, the more they stay the same. I see Ted Thompson using these teams as the blue print for the Packers future success, the 70's Steelers, 80's 49ers and the 90's Packers (in which he served under Ron Wolf in the personnel department).

The 70's Steelers: The Steelers were a team that was built thru the draft using big time college programs, small schools (including historical black college's) and a mixture of players that were athletic, smart and fit the team system. If you look at their defensive line, all three of those players did something better then the other, they all had their own strengths, but as a unit they were arguably the best ever. The Rooney's drafted players like Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swan and Jack Lambert, but also players from small schools and relative unknowns like "Mean" Joe Greene.

The 80's 49ers: The Bill Walsh led 49ers were a team (a lot like the Steelers) built through the draft, but what was different then the Steelers of the 70's was Bill Walsh drafted players that fit HIS system. Joe Montana was a QB that "didn't have a strong arm" or know days known as a "system QB". Jerry Rice was to slow. What kind of RB was Roger Craig, and was Ronnie Lott a CB or S? He would release (Lott, Craig) or trade aging veterans (even Montana) and trade for players that had question marks or had not played to their ability for what ever reason (Steve Young). Yet, he was aggressive in the draft if he felt strong enough that a player would help his team.

The 90's Packers: Ron Wolf had the luxury of free agency to help build the Packers. He traded for a QB that was unproven (Brett Favre), players that didn't want to be in Green Bay (Keith Jackson) or were aging (Eugene Robinson) and used free agency to land the key piece(s) (Reggie White) on the championship teams (Santana Dotson, Sean Jones, Frank Winters Desmond Howard and Andre Rison) But the one thing Wolf had in common with the aforementioned teams is he drafted well, especially in the later rounds. He added depth to the Packers, as well as he drafted the "core players" (LeRoy Butler, Edgar Bennett, Craig Newsome, Antonio Freeman, Robert Brooks, Mark Chmura Doug Evens, Wayne Simmons, Brian Williams, and Aaron Taylor).

Now to the Ted Thompson Packers: Thompson has had some good luck in the draft by adding a player that was considered the TOP PICK in the draft as late as a week before the draft, but was labeled a "system QB" (Aaron Rodgers) at pick #24. He also drafted a S that had played CB as well (Nick Collins) and "tweener" LB (Brady Poppinga) that plays with a high motor. In his following draft he landed the top LB (and maybe defensive player) in the draft that fits the mold of the "old school" player the Packers can build their defense around(AJ Hawk). He also landed a WR that was "to slow" (depending on who you talked to) but put up big time numbers in college (Greg Jennings). Two OL that fit the blocking scheme the Packers were implementing (Darren Colledge and Jason Spitz), a MLB that was labeled to slow but was highly productive in college (Abdul Hodge), and a CB that sacrificed his draft status to move to WR his senior year for the benefit of his college team (Will Blackmon). He also added players in the past 2 drafts and priority free agency (like Tony Moll, Mike Montgomery, Ingle Martin, Johnny Jolly, Tyrone Culver, and Ruvell Martin) that have the ability to contribute in some special way. In terms of free agency Thompson has added Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett, who both paid off in a major way this past season. He also added Marquand Manuel (who had an off year), Ben Taylor, Kendrick Allen (who was hurt all year, but looked good in pre season). He traded for Vernand Morency, who has some nice potential as a 3rd down back. He picked Carlyle Holiday from the Cardinals practice squad and he played well down the stretch for the Pack. In today's NFL (as it always has been) when something works for one team, every team tries to follow that game plan. Ted Thompson seems to be following the teams that have had the most success in the past 30 years and that is by drafting smart, taking calculated risks when it come to the draft and free agency and drafting high quality football players as well as players who understand the game of football, no matter what school they came from, or what the so called draft "experts" may say. Ted Thompson has a plan, and no matter what anyone may say about it, it is a plan he (and the Packers organization) believe in and will follow until either they fire him, or win a Super Bowl.

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On the Sidelines by JA Footballfutures.com

"The Packers will in fact try to make a big time run at Ravens LB/DE Adalius Thomas to be a DE/LB IF the Ravens do not tag him (which is still a possibilty). The Packers have indeed talked to the Broncos about a deal that would send Tatum Bell and a pick to the Packers for KGB and a pick. I got the feeling that KGB will be moved this off season so this may be the first of many KGB to (fill in the blank) rumors. The Packers have intrest in Dantè Stallworth, but loook for the Titans and 49ers (who I have been told view him as their top priority) to overpay for him. New free agent LaVar Arrington may be calling the Packers this time around. He was EXTREEMLEY close to signing with the Packers last season, and may have to play at a bargin price (with whom ever he signs with). Also, the Postons have a solid working releationship with Ted Thompson. The Packers seem to have cooled off a little on the Randy Moss deal for a couple of reasons. (1.) Al Davis is trying to mend the rift between him and the team (2.) Al Davis wants equal value (as of today) from any team wanting Moss (which means a 2nd or a 1st) and (3.) The Packers are starting to think a WR in this draft could have just as much as an impact THIS SEASON and down the road for a cheaper price. The Packers want to re-sign Ahman Green to a cheaper (non-starter) price, but with the free agent RB market being as it is, teams like the Giants, Jets, Ravens, Oakland, Denver and the Texans seem to have ALOT of intrest. Justin Griffith, the Falcons free agent FB, is amoungst the Packers top FA targets this off season."

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The following shows who NFL draft enthusiasts think the Green Bay Packers are going to get with their first 3 draft picks. Players are shown with the number of mock drafts that had this player going to the Packers, and the % of the time that this player was selected to go to the Packers. The bottom table gives a list of positions that the Green Bay Packers are most likely targeting with their first 3 picks of the draft.

Top 15 Targeted Prospects at Pick 16

1 Marshawn Lynch, RB California 221 61.2
2 Reggie Nelson, S Florida 11 3
3 Ted Ginn, WR Ohio State 10 2.8
4 Darrelle Revis, CB Pittsburgh 9 2.5
5 Dwayne Jarrett, WR USC 9 2.5
6 Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma 8 2.2
7 Michael Bush, RB Louisville 7 1.9
8 Laron Landry, S LSU 7 1.9
9 Levi Brown, OT Penn St. 6 1.7
10 Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame 6 1.7
11 Amobi Okoye, DT Louisville 6 1.7
12 Sidney Rice, WR South Carolina 5 1.4
13 Patrick Willis, ILB Ole Miss 4 1.1
14 Dwayne Bowe, WR LSU 4 1.1
15 Alan Branch, DT Michigan 3 0.8

Top 7 Targeted Prospects at Pick 48

1 Zach Miller, TE Arizona St 11 9.5
2 Eric Weddle, S Utah 8 6.9
3 Kenny Irons, RB Auburn 7 6
4 Fred Bennett, CB SC 6 5.2
5 Greg Olsen, TE Miami 6 5.2
6 Tony Hunt, RB Penn State 5 4.3
7 Aaron Rouse, S Virginia Tech 4 3.4

Top 10 Targeted Prospects at Pick 80

1 Tim Crowder, DE Texas 3 6.8
2 Mkristo Bruce, DE Washington State 2 4.5
3 Darius Walker, RB Notre Dame 2 4.5
4 Adam Carriker, DE Nebraska 2 4.5
5 Travarous Bain, CB Hampton 2 4.5
6 Dallas Baker, WR Florida 2 4.5
7 Marquice Cole, CB Northwestern 2 4.5
8 Antonio Pittman, RB Ohio State 2 4.5
9 Ded Harrington, ILB Missouri 1 2.3
10 Aundrae Allison, WR Eastern Carolina 1 2.3

Top 7 Targeted Positions in the First Two Rounds of the Draft

1 Running Back 263 50.5
2 Wide Receiver 52 10
3 Cornerback 46 8.8
4 Safety 40 7.7
5 Defensive End 37 7.1
6 Tight End 24 4.6
7 Defensive Tackle 14 2.7


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Top 15 Targeted Prospects at Pick 16



2 Reggie Nelson, S Florida 11 3
5 Dwayne Jarrett, WR USC 9 2.5
8 Laron Landry, S LSU 7 1.9
12 Sidney Rice, WR South Carolina 5 1.4
14 Dwayne Bowe, WR LSU 4 1.1


I'd take.


6 Adrian Peterson, RB Oklahoma 8 2.2

I wish.



7 Michael Bush, RB Louisville 7 1.9
15 Alan Branch, DT Michigan 3 0.8


No!

Top 7 Targeted Prospects at Pick 48



1 Zach Miller, TE Arizona St 11 9.5
2 Eric Weddle, S Utah 8 6.9
5 Greg Olsen, TE Miami 6 5.2


I'd take.


Top 10 Targeted Prospects at Pick 80



4 Adam Carriker, DE Nebraska 2 4.5


I wish.

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those all seem good to me

it would be nice if we had our pick ofthe top 2 TE's in the draft with our second. either ones an upgrade i would say

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On the Sidelines (Update) by JA PackerChatters.com

Some people I talked to think the Packers will let Ahman Green walk because they, the people I talked to, feel he is done and will not be the type of player he once was. If the Packers were to re-sign him, it would be for a 1 or 2 year deal. There are a few teams that seem to be interested in the Packers DE "KGB" including the Buccaneers, Raiders, Cardinals, Browns, Broncos, Texans, Redskins and Jags. Packers fans, just remember the name John Beck (QB, BYU) during the draft days). Deon Grant may be on the Packers short list, but they will not get into a bidding war over him. Sidney Rice's name is moving up draft boards, possibly as high as #16 to the Packers....

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Patty's Report - Some Free Agent Whispers by Patty Packerchatters.com

With FA about to happen there is some news concerning potential free agents. First off what does GB do with Ahman Green? The word circulating is that the Packers would like to resign him but not as a starter or starter's money. The trouble with this is that there are some teams interested in offering Ahman Green a larger part (performance wise) than Green Bay. Teams expected to be interested are the Eagles - Houston and the Giants with Houston maybe interested in Ahman as a starter. And what about DE Cullen Jenkins: he is said to be shooting for the moon and the Packers might decide not to pay him that kind of money. Cullen has yet to show enough to merit that kind of pay. Green Bay is said to be interested in as many as 3 DE's about to hit the FA market. Could this be a signal that they may not give Jenkins what he is asking for? Just my opinion but I think the packers should resign Jenkins and add another prominent DE and use KGB in a trade. The Green Bay Packers are expected to attempt to resign David Martin TE - The line has that the Packers think he brings speed to the position and they can use him. He is well schooled in their offense and the time to take to get a new TE up to par would over shadow the possible effects of a new TE especially in this draft and FA market. Interesting side note to the Free Agents about to hit the market are a few players that teams would like to move. The Packers are interested in a couple of those players. Dante Hall WR/Ret is available from the Chiefs. The asking price is not known but the Chiefs believe his receiving skills does not warrant keeping him around. Despite the fact he is one of the best returners in the game. The other player that just might be had for the right price is Tatum Bell RB (Denver). Bell fumbles way too much for Shanahan and is on the outs. Remember Ahman Green also had the rep of fumbling too much for Holmgren. The Bronco's are wanting a veteran and a draft pick - Hmm? Bell is 5-11 216 with outstanding quickness and break away speed. Has some power to his game and can dish out some hurt when turning up the middle. Developing into a receiver out of the backfield as well but does not have route running ability as of yet. Now back to the Free Agents. These are in terms of perceived interest by Green Bay according to John Clayton and Chris Mortensen:

1) Donte Stallworth WR: The Packers are really keeping a close eye and ear on these developments. Even though Donte has come out and said he prefers to stay with Philadelphia he is interested in seeing what other teams are offering. SO far the Eagles seem cool towards resigning him but with 3 weeks to go that interest should get warmer. The thinking around NFL circles is that if the Eagles are slow in negotiating that Green Bay has the strength and muscle to get their #1 desire. Stallworth brings solid credentials to the mix with a blend of speed and quickness along with good hands and route running. Teams expecting to make a run at Stallworth are the Vikings Tennessee and the 49'ers. San Francisco has made Stallworth their #1 objective and they have an enormous amount of cap money to spend but the packers are said to fixated on adding Stallworth

2) Justin Smith DE: practically every team in the NFL could use another DE. Some are in desperate situations to improve at the position. The Packers acknowledge they have their own decision with Cullen Jenkins but if they could add a player like Justin Smith they would jump at the opportunity. Justin is a complete 3 down DE with the ability to rush the QB and the quickness to drop off into passing lanes in short designed areas. Good run defender as well. Used in several capacities by the Bengals that did not utilize his talents. The Bengals really want to keep Smith but will not franchise him. Currently the odds favor St. Louis Rams as he is a Missourian and the Rams were one of his favorite teams growing up. Detroit is expected to make a serious run at Justin Smith as well. They the Lions have no one with Smith's ability. Green Bay - Seattle and Tennessee are expected to have great interest in Smith. Denver Bronco's are looking to add a DE as well.

3) Deon Grant S: it was thought that the Jags would franchise him but word is out now that they will not. A lot of teams are in need of a S with Grants skills. Grant is a good ball hawk and reads the play quite well. Has good speed and athleticism. Grant wold be the best safety the packers have had since Leroy Butler. In fact he plays the free spot so well that Nick Collins could be moved to a more natural slot at SS. The word around the NFL is that the Packers do intend to talk with Grant very early in the FA process. The Philadelphia Eagles are going to let Michael Lewis go and are expected to make a strong push for Grant. The St. Louis Rams have never recovered from losing Adam Archuleta and are expected to be players for Grant as well.

4) Drew Bennett WR: in a somewhat surprising development the packers are indeed interested in Drew Bennett but the word is they believe he will receive expensive offers which will end any hope of the Packers of adding a Quality #3 WR that fits exactly what McCarthy is seeking. When he said he wanted some play makers on offense many believed he was talking about home run type players but in a later interview he talked about getting difference makers that keeps drives going and the chains moving. He said it was vitally important to get Brett some protection and security. That fits Bennett's bio to a great degree. A solid route runner with ultimate consistency. Tennessee is expected to try and keep Bennett especially if Vince Young ants him back. But the team expected to be the front runner for Bennett is Indianapolis. The Colts are looking for a slot #3 WR. Watch for the Falcons to make a play as well. And San Diego is whispered to be focusing in on Bennett as well.

5) Damion McIntosh OT: a little surprise that Green Bay is more interested in an OT than a versatile OG like Eric Steinbach. McIntosh is interesting because he is not considered a solid pass rusher. His technique is rough around the edges. But he gives 100% on every play and is a very coach-able player. One of the best run blocking OT's in the NFL. Some might say he is one of the top 3 in the NFL. He moves and has above average slide, Solid power and strength and understands leverage as well as anyone. Miami does not want to lose him and are trying to extend but so far Damion wants to see what FA offers. Teams expected to make an effort to sign him are the Dallas Cowboys - Houston Texans - Tampa Bay and San Francisco - A report out of the Mercury News has Stallworth, Nate Clements and McIntosh as the 49er's primary objectives in FA. I hear the Packers are very interested in McIntosh as well.

Other FA's with some news to report:

Leonard Davis OT: Houston - Atlanta and Dallas with the Cowboys favored to sign him

Eric Steinbach OG: the Bengals are trying to resign him. making a hard effort to do so. If not then look for Chicago to make a hard pus for him. Other teams interested are Detroit and St. Louis

Ken Hamlin S; Seattle is slow to resign him. A mistake?? Teams said to be high on Hamlin are: St. Louis and New England. The Patriots are considered the team that Hamlin would fit with the best but keep in mind that New England will not over pay for any player. St. Louis has the cap room to outbid anyone. The Eagles might go after him if they miss out on Deon Grant. Green Bay is said to have moderate interest but will not get into a bidding war.

Cory Redding DE/DT: getting more interest than expected. Word on the street has as many as 9 teams interested in talking with Redding. Cory has good moves for a player his size and often times can drop off into pass coverage. Great size -speed combo and changes directions very well. His troubles comes in that he does not get leverage and can be taken out of plays and is slow to recognize plays at times. Only mild interest by Green Bay according to sources close to the Packers.


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Sydney Speaks! Go get the help! by Sydney Scout.com

PackerReport.com's Harry Sydney details the biggest areas of need for the Green Bay Packers and soon-to-be free agents that he feels can help the team in 2007: safety, wide receiver and tight end are biggest areas of need


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2007 NFL Draft WR Rankings

Wide Receiver
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Dwayne Jarrett, USC
3. Ted Ginn Jr, Ohio St, Jr.
4. Robert Meachem, Tennessee
5. Dwayne Bowe, LSU
6. Sidney Rice, South Carolina
7. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
8. Jason Hill, Washington St.
9. Aundrae Allison, East Carolina
10.Paul Williams, Fresno St.

Tight End
1. Zach Miller, Arizona St.
2. Scott Chandler, Iowa
3. Joe Newton, Oregon St.
4. Greg Olsen, Miami, Jr.
5. Matt Spaeth, Minnesota

Other Receiver Prospects
Steve Smith, USC
Rhema McKnight, Notre Dame
Courtney Taylor, Auburn
Chris McFoy, USC
Marquay McDaniel, Hampton
Henry Tolbert, Grambling
Jayson Swain, Tennessee
Ryne Robinson, Miami(OH)
Syndric Steptoe, Arizona
Matt Trannon, Michigan St.

PREVIEW PICKS/PACKER CHOICES:
1. Calvin Johnson-6'4, 215-Georgia Tech-gifted with tools to be a immediate difference maker. A top 5 pick in the April draft.
2. Dwayne Jarrett-6'4, 207-USC-made big plays but lacks straight line speed. A top 10 pick in April draft.
3. Ted Ginn Jr.-6'0, 185-Ohio St.-world class speed who needs to add weight and get stronger. A top 10-20 pick in the 1st round.
4. Sidney Rice-6'4, 195-S. Carolina-outstanding leaping ability and good hands. A mid-to late pick in the first round.
5. Robert Meacham-6'3, 215-Tennessee-deceptive speed and fights for the ball. A mid-to-late 1st round pick.
6. Dwayne Bowe- 6'3, 215-LSU-West Coast type WR with great size, fights for the ball, red zone threat, and good speed. A mid-to late 1st round or early 2nd round pick.

BONUS [TO REPLACE 2006 BAD PICK]:
7. Jocoby Jones-WR/KR-6'3, 205-Lane College-exceptional speed and size including ability to return kicks and punts.

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Everybody wins with Harris' new contract by Lawrence Scout.com

The deal, which includes no guaranteed money, is good PR for the Packers. Al Harris’ new contract shows that where there’s a will, there’s a way. At 32 — he’ll turn 33 on Dec. 7 — Harris is getting close to the age in which an elite cornerback’s skills can fall dramatically and without much warning. That’s the future, though, and it’s the great unknown. What is known is that Harris is one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL, and he wasn’t being paid as such. Harris made a bit of a stink last offseason about his displeasure with his contract, which runs through 2009. Unlike Javon Walker, though, Harris’ comments were infrequent and weren’t much more than lip service. While he skipped voluntary workouts, he was in Green Bay when he needed to be, and he put together another tremendous season. The dilemma for general manager Ted Thompson was to give Harris a well-earned raise while protecting the team should Harris’ skills quickly erode. Mission accomplished. Most of the $4 million in new money will be paid in weekly bonuses on top of the $2.7 million he’s owed for 2007, $2.85 million for 2008 and $3 million for 2009. As long as Harris is on the team, he’ll get the extra dollars — about 75,000 of them a week. If Harris’ play slips and the Packers decide to sever ties, then they’re completely off the hook, both in real dollars and salary-cap dollars. Beyond the dollars and cents, this deal made sense in the big picture. For one, keeping Harris happy is a priority, especially considering Woodson received more than $10 million in up-front money to join the Packers last season, only to play second-fiddle to Harris. If the Packers’ defense is to continue its strong play from the last month of last season, then Harris must be at his lock-’em-up best. It's good to feel appreciated. Beyond that, don’t for a minute think this contract won’t be noticed by other players around the league, who may give Green Bay a second look during free agency. The Packers were under no obligation to rework Harris’ contract. Like it or not, Harris was stuck playing under that deal for the next three seasons. But the Packers recognized Harris’ superlative play and decided he wasn’t being paid what he’s worth. So, what’s good for Harris is good for the team, and good for its image....

[TopHat]

8) 8) 8) 8)

[Charles Woodson]

Wide Receiver
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Dwayne Jarrett, USC
3. Ted Ginn Jr, Ohio St, Jr.
4. Robert Meachem, Tennessee
5. Dwayne Bowe, LSU
6. Sidney Rice, South Carolina
7. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
8. Jason Hill, Washington St.
9. Aundrae Allison, East Carolina
10.Paul Williams, Fresno St.

4. Sidney Rice-6'4, 195-S. Carolina-outstanding leaping ability and good hands. A mid-to late pick in the first round.


Would be delighted with Rice, but that would be if nelson was taken, and id like to trade down a few picks and then draft him. I also like the reciver from Michigan Steve Breatson. Although breston wont be taken very high

[Freak Out]

Is Ginn healed up?

BTW.......thanks for all the info Top Hat!

[TopHat]

Wide Receiver
1. Calvin Johnson, Georgia Tech
2. Dwayne Jarrett, USC
3. Ted Ginn Jr, Ohio St, Jr.
4. Robert Meachem, Tennessee
5. Dwayne Bowe, LSU
6. Sidney Rice, South Carolina
7. Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP
8. Jason Hill, Washington St.
9. Aundrae Allison, East Carolina
10.Paul Williams, Fresno St.

4. Sidney Rice-6'4, 195-S. Carolina-outstanding leaping ability and good hands. A mid-to late pick in the first round.

Would be delighted with Rice, but that would be if nelson was taken, and id like to trade down a few picks and then draft him. I also like the reciver from Michigan Steve Breatson. Although breston wont be taken very high


TOP HAT: I agree, if the Pack decide to go with a WR, not RB or S or TE or DE, in 1st round. Meachem, Rice, or Bowe are a perfect fit. As an option, I show many good ones, including one sleeper, for later rounds, since most mocks see Nelson, and by the way Johnson and Jarrett, picked by 15th. The Pack need to decide about Culver and Underwood roles too. I will have more later about CBs and Ss.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Is Ginn healed up?

BTW.......thanks for all the info Top Hat!

Yeah, I don't think his injury was serious... a couple of weeks type thing.

[MJZiggy]

Rice would be nice, but I get the feeling a WR will not come in the 1st round. Just a feeling I get.

[BallHawk]

Rice would be nice, but I get the feeling a WR will not come in the 1st round. Just a feeling I get.

Will we see another Greg Jennings or Marques Colston arise?

[MJZiggy]

That's what I'm thinking. Someone tell me about the Williams kid. And Higgins.

[TopHat]

Rice would be nice, but I get the feeling a WR will not come in the 1st round. Just a feeling I get.

Will we see another Greg Jennings or Marques Colston arise?

BallHawk,

Probably. 2007 draft has a very good, deep receiver class and at least one sleeper. For WRs, a great scenario for the Pack too, including waiting till 2 or later, if another priority like S or DE or RB or TE...a great deal depends on FAs moves, including Green etc by draft day.

[TopHat]

That's what I'm thinking. Someone tell me about the Williams kid. And Higgins.
Ziggy,

WR RANKINGS INCLUDING PACKER INTERESTS/W/H:

Rank Name School Pos HT WT 40 Type Grade Draft Range
1 Calvin Johnson Georgia Tech WR 6044e 230e 4.50e A 0.75 Draft # 1
2 Ted Ginn Ohio State WR 5114e 185e 4.35e G 1.16 Draft # 1
3 Dwayne Jarrett USC WR 6044e 210e 4.55e F 1.16 Draft # 1
4 Sidney Rice South Carolina WR 6034e 205e 4.50e I 1.19 Draft # 1 - 2
5 Robert Meachem Tennessee WR 6024e 210e 4.50e I 1.20 Draft # 1 - 2
6 Craig Davis LSU WR 6011v 203v 4.40v I 1.21 Draft # 1 - 2
7 Anthony Gonzalez Ohio State WR 6000e 190e 4.45e I 1.28 Draft # 2 - 3
8 Johnnie Lee Higgins UTEP WR 5114v 184v 4.38v G 1.29 Draft # 2 - 3
9 Dwayne Bowe LSU WR 6016v 223v 4.50e I 1.30 Draft # 2 - 3
10 Aundrae Allison East Carolina WR 5116v 188v 4.45e I 1.32 Draft # 3 - 4
11 Jason Hill Washington St. WR 6002v 210v 4.55e I 1.36 Draft # 3
12 Paul Williams Fresno St WR 6013v 198v 4.41v I 1.38 Draft # 3 - 4
13 David Clowney Virginia Tech WR 6003v 181v 4.32v I 1.41 Draft # 3 - 4

TE RANKINGS INCLUDING OLSEN, MILLER, AND CHANDLER:

Rank Name School Pos HT WT 40 Type Grade Draft Range
1 Greg Olsen Miami TE 6050e 250e 4.70e I 1.18 Draft # 1 - 2
2 Zach Miller Arizona St TE 6042e 260e 4.85e I 1.27 Draft # 2 - 3
3 Ben Patrick Delaware TE 6040e 275e 4.80e I 1.29 Draft # 2 - 3
4 Scott Chandler Iowa TE 6066v 258v 4.78v I 1.32 Draft # 2 - 3
5 Martrez Milner Georgia TE 6036v 252v 4.65e I 1.34 Draft # 3

[Packnut]

I still say if Bowe is there at #16, it's a no-brainer. Look at it this way. Out of all the WR's in the draft, I would argue he's the best red zone target, which just happens to be our biggest weakness. It's a perfect match.

Driver, Jennings and Bowe would be a formidable trio, not only for Brett, but for Rodgers in the future.

[MadtownPacker]

Wow, killer thread.

I backed TT from the gate and I have a feeling he is gonna set the team up quite nicely this offseason.

[Packnut]

Wow, killer thread.

I backed TT from the gate and I have a feeling he is gonna set the team up quite nicely this offseason.

Well, he sure won't have any excuses. He has the cash to make a difference. It's just a matter of pulling the RIGHT trigger.

[Partial]

Calvin clocked a 4.3 yesterday according to his speed coach. If thats true, he might be the best receiving prospect ever. He's overrated, but he'll probably go #1 if he runs a 4.40 or lower.

[Packnut]

Of course he also has his share of problems. First, he knows Green is a fan favorite and is under pressure to re-sign him. He also has to get a handle on the Jenkins thing.

As far as Green goes, I love the guy but anything more than an incentive ladden contract would be foolish. If someone wants to pay him like a starter, than God bless him and I wish him well in Houston or where-ever he goes. Still, if TT can get Bell from Denver for a reasonable price like KGB and a 3rd round pick, pull the trigger!

Jenkins is a much bigger problem. You cannot give him the big contract based on 4 games. I'd rather TT give him a high 1 year tender offer and base his next contract on his play for a FULL season. If the guy is for real and has a great year, then by all means pay him. The cap will only go up, and I'd rather pay 4 million more for a sure thing than have another KGB type situation.

[TopHat]

On the Sideline by JA

..."With Al Harris' extension out of the way, they only thing stopping the Packers from getting a deal done with Nick Barnett is Lance Briggs. Both parties want to see what the market value is for LB's and they both agreed to use Briggs' future contract as a blue print (or starting point). If he (Briggs) is tagged, the Packers and Barnett will still get a deal done, keeping the MLB a packers for at least 5 years. The Ravens may not franchise Adalius Thomas because they have cap issues. That opens the door for the Packers and 49ers, both hold him in high regard. Don't be surprised if the Packers make in inquiry with Deon Grant's people. Look for William Henderson to retire AFTER the 2007 season I was told. he has a budding career in T.V....I was told Calvin Johnson was running the 40 in 4.33 seconds. Look for Ted Ginn Jr. to try and run UNDER a 4.3 at his pro day. I was told he wont be running at the combine, but that may change depending on how his ankle feels. Marshawn Lynch looks to be a top 10 pick in the upcoming draft despite his "off the field" issues or "character questions" I was told. Don't be surprised if you see Sidney Rice run in the 4.4's. he has been working out since January to increase his speed and explosiveness...."
8) 8)

[MadtownPacker]

Paul Williams = sicker then a MFer!! GET HIM!!

[MJZiggy]

Is there a link, scouting report, anything on him?

[Partial]

Who is Paul Williams?

[MadtownPacker]

Im sure there is but just take my word, he is the real deal.

[the_idle_threat]

Im sure there is but just take my word, he is the real deal.

Mad's scouting report is good enough for me.

[woodbuck27]

I believe that Ted Thompson will draft on 'O' in the First Rd at RB or WR.

Things I am considering regarding direction in the First Rd. pick are:

Will Ted Thompson return Ahman Green? If not, then the RB position may be rightfully the number one priority.

We have to consider the age of OUR No. 1 WR Donald Driver and what major trade ( ie the Randy Moss Rumor) or otherwise move in FA delivers at WR.

[Fritz]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?

[Packnut]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?


He does'nt have to sign 1 great player. Just a few above avg ones. I'm not on the Stallworth bandwagon either. I'd rather go after Curtis from St Louis. He ain't gonna break the bank cause he a #2 WR not #1. Go after Graham or Johnson at TE. The ONLY player I would throw some SERIOUS coin at would be Grant. He's the saftey we need and is a difference maker.

[TopHat]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?


He does'nt have to sign 1 great player. Just a few above avg ones. I'm not on the Stallworth bandwagon either. I'd rather go after Curtis from St Louis. He ain't gonna break the bank cause he a #2 WR not #1. Go after Graham or Johnson at TE. The ONLY player I would throw some SERIOUS coin at would be Grant. He's the saftey we need and is a difference maker.


TOP HAT: GOOD POINTS. TODAY, SMITH BECAME FRANCHISHED. ST. LOUIS WILL PAY THE $$$$ TO KEEP CURTIS. STALLWORTH SAYS HE WANTS TO STAY WITH EAGLES.

[Partial]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?


He does'nt have to sign 1 great player. Just a few above avg ones. I'm not on the Stallworth bandwagon either. I'd rather go after Curtis from St Louis. He ain't gonna break the bank cause he a #2 WR not #1. Go after Graham or Johnson at TE. The ONLY player I would throw some SERIOUS coin at would be Grant. He's the saftey we need and is a difference maker.

Deon Grant? I know nothing of him. Is he a probowl caliber player?

[Packnut]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?


He does'nt have to sign 1 great player. Just a few above avg ones. I'm not on the Stallworth bandwagon either. I'd rather go after Curtis from St Louis. He ain't gonna break the bank cause he a #2 WR not #1. Go after Graham or Johnson at TE. The ONLY player I would throw some SERIOUS coin at would be Grant. He's the saftey we need and is a difference maker.

Deon Grant? I know nothing of him. Is he a probowl caliber player?


He's a very good coverage saftey which would allow Collins to go back to where his comfort level is playing closer to the line. The key here is he fits our scheme and utilizing his talents will make him even better.

[Charles Woodson]

Quick thoughts

On the pole-Wish there was an option of i like him but i dont agree with the whole only build a team via draft, i think you need a steady stream of FA's too, but then again thats why hes the gm and im not

On partials coment that CJ is over rated-I really dont belive he is, i mean its not like its just his mesurables are amazing, he plays amazing i mean even in the bowl game he pulled off like 140 yards? agains VT. But the thing that sticks out to me the most is his attitude, hes not some TO Randy wana be, hes the real deal, speed size talent attitude, he really sounds like a good kid, only wish we could get him

On Recivers over Running Backs in the draft- Before the offseason came i was really hoping for marshawn lynch, but taking a further look into our reciving core and our needs and such, i hope we take a WR, i dont know why but my gut feeling keeps telling me Sid Rice. Also BallHawk maybe u can answer this one, but Would Lorenzo Booker be a canadate for our Running Scheme, we could get him in 4-5 round and hes really fast and hes can catch extremly well. But in the end i wouldnt be mad if Reggie Nelson fell to us, i mean this guy is a beast. So for the first round would like in this order 1. Reggie nelson 2. Sidney Rice 3. Marshawn Lynch

[Partial]

On partials coment that CJ is over rated-I really dont belive he is, i mean its not like its just his mesurables are amazing, he plays amazing i mean even in the bowl game he pulled off like 140 yards? agains VT. But the thing that sticks out to me the most is his attitude, hes not some TO Randy wana be, hes the real deal, speed size talent attitude, he really sounds like a good kid, only wish we could get him

'Cause he isn't a millionare yet. He is still king of the campus and probably pops a fresh poonaner daily.

[Charles Woodson]

On partials coment that CJ is over rated-I really dont belive he is, i mean its not like its just his mesurables are amazing, he plays amazing i mean even in the bowl game he pulled off like 140 yards? agains VT. But the thing that sticks out to me the most is his attitude, hes not some TO Randy wana be, hes the real deal, speed size talent attitude, he really sounds like a good kid, only wish we could get him

'Cause he isn't a millionare yet. He is still king of the campus and probably pops a fresh poonaner daily.

Eh, idk i think his mom has brought him up well, i mean hes surronded by a good family i dont see him going bad like to or moss

[Partial]

On partials coment that CJ is over rated-I really dont belive he is, i mean its not like its just his mesurables are amazing, he plays amazing i mean even in the bowl game he pulled off like 140 yards? agains VT. But the thing that sticks out to me the most is his attitude, hes not some TO Randy wana be, hes the real deal, speed size talent attitude, he really sounds like a good kid, only wish we could get him

'Cause he isn't a millionare yet. He is still king of the campus and probably pops a fresh poonaner daily.

Eh, idk i think his mom has brought him up well, i mean hes surronded by a good family i dont see him going bad like to or moss

It's possible. We'll see.

[Bretsky]

Yes, TT has some cash, but there are two problems. First, a lot of teams have lots of cash this year - gb is actually only in like the upper third or half of available cap space. Second, even if Ted has the cash, he can't conjure up a playmaker out of nowhere. Donte Stallworth? Well-traveled for a reason. Who is this great playmaker that TT is "obligated" to sign (according to some earlier posters)?


He does'nt have to sign 1 great player. Just a few above avg ones. I'm not on the Stallworth bandwagon either. I'd rather go after Curtis from St Louis. He ain't gonna break the bank cause he a #2 WR not #1. Go after Graham or Johnson at TE. The ONLY player I would throw some SERIOUS coin at would be Grant. He's the saftey we need and is a difference maker.


Great points; I hope TT decides to fill a few gaps before the draft as well.

I do think Stallworth would make a very good compliment to Driver and Jennings; but he is often injured.

I REALLY hope TT grabs a TE early in free agency. I'm not convinced any TE is overwhelming this year in the draft so I really hope to address the lack of talent there early.

At #16 he'll go for the best available player...but.....maybe taking need into account.......he may go best available to RB, WR, and S.

So that could boil down to Reggie Nelson, Landry, Lynch, and a very good WR out of a very deep class of WR's.

I'd also LOVE to see TT address the safety issue before the draft as well.

Then, if TT rates the WR's similar to Lynch, he could work some magic by trading down and adding a 2nd and then still grabbing a very talented WR like Rice, Bowe, or Meecham late in round one.

With several positions to upgrade, I'd completely agree we don't need to hit a home run. But there are a ton of positions that need improving on this team. I hope TT utilizes both free agency and the draft to address the missing pieces of the puzzle.

With the lack of strength IMO at Tight End, it should be of the utmost importance to address this quickly.

Get er down TT

[HarveyWallbangers]

FA is Fool's Gold.

Would you sign Stallworth for $6-7M/year? Those two WRs, Bennett and Stallworth, are going to be extremely overpaid. Both would help, but I'm not sure it would be the right thing to do for the price it's likely going to take.

[TopHat]

http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=619128&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fstory.scout.com%2fa.z%3f s%3d61%26p%3d2%26c%3d619128

Time to move forward at running back. by Matt Tevsh Scout.com

The Green Bay Packers should think running back either in free agency, or early on Day 1 of the NFL draft, and move on without Ahman Green.


TOP HAT: ANALYSTS AGREE ABOUT PACK'S CRUCIAL NEEDS AVAILABLE IN FAS AND DRAFT, ESPECIALLY WR, RB, TE, & S. IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING COMPARING THE RESULTS TO 2006 WITH WOODSON AND PICKETT IN FA AND HAWK, JENNINGS, DC, MOLL, ETC. IN DRAFT.

[Bretsky]

FA is Fool's Gold.

Would you sign Stallworth for $6-7M/year? Those two WRs, Bennett and Stallworth, are going to be extremely overpaid. Both would help, but I'm not sure it would be the right thing to do for the price it's likely going to take.


If Stallworth is 6-7 per year and Bennett commands 4-5 per year I'd pass and focus on drafting a WR high in April.

[wist43]

Anyone would have been an improvement over Sherman... I took a wait and see approach at TT's arrival.

Still have a wait and see approach... It'll take more than one good draft in a row to win me over - and then there is the matter of letting Wahle walk, punting Walker, drafting Rodgers, and the weak offensive and defensive schemes.

Wait and see...

[MJZiggy]

Is TT really responsible for the offensive and defensive schemes or does that responsibility fall under the authority of the head coach?

[Zool]

Who hires the coach?

[Fritz]

On partials coment that CJ is over rated-I really dont belive he is, i mean its not like its just his mesurables are amazing, he plays amazing i mean even in the bowl game he pulled off like 140 yards? agains VT. But the thing that sticks out to me the most is his attitude, hes not some TO Randy wana be, hes the real deal, speed size talent attitude, he really sounds like a good kid, only wish we could get him

'Cause he isn't a millionare yet. He is still king of the campus and probably pops a fresh poonaner daily.

Eh, idk i think his mom has brought him up well, i mean hes surronded by a good family i dont see him going bad like to or moss

It's possible. We'll see.

But can't you be getting this so-called "fresh poonaner" daily AND still be brought up well?

[Scott Campbell]

Anyone would have been an improvement over Sherman... I took a wait and see approach at TT's arrival.

Still have a wait and see approach... It'll take more than one good draft in a row to win me over - and then there is the matter of letting Wahle walk, punting Walker, drafting Rodgers, and the weak offensive and defensive schemes.

Wait and see...

I agree for the most part with Wist.

I'm impressed by what Ted has done so far. However, there's a big difference between just being better than Sherman, and building a consistent contender. Were 3 years in, and it's about time for that next big leap.

Honeymoon is over. It's time to win the division.

[TopHat]

http://www.packerchatters.com/op-ed/view.php?id=368

The last pieces of the puzzle, Our future is now! by Bernie Capasso - PackerChatters.com

Ted Thompson has been the GM for a little over two years now. For the last two years he was clearing our salary cap problem and acquiring new, mostly younger, players for the Packers future. Well the Packer future has arrived. I suspect that the moves that Thompson will make this off season will be with the full intentions of getting the team to the Superbowl “this” year and hopefully be a contender with the current team in future years also. When you rebuild, the formula is usually to first set your defense, then your offensive line, running backs, receivers and then your QB. Thompson’s first draft pick was the Packers future QB, but that only happened because Rodgers fell in Thompson’s lap. But, I would like to address our current needs and what I suspect Thompson will do to get the Packers back in the Superbowl hunt for 2007.

First off we need to finish building the Defense.

1. We obviously need a free safety to take over Manuel spot. We need an immediate impact player at FS I do not think TT will “draft” a safety to fill this void. If he does it would probably have to be the first round. Even with a 1st rounder it could easily take a year for a rookie to become adapted to the NFL. I think TT takes care of the safety problem through FA. My first choice would be Deon Grant second would be Ken Hamlin. With Grant back there we would probably have one of the top secondaries in the NFL. Manual, Underwood and Blackmon should provide the depth we would need for the nickel and dime packages.
2. We need to resign Jenkins or get a DE that can take his place. Again we could tap FA...or grab a DE in the first or second round. As far as I am concerned if these two problems are addressed our Defense is complete and it is time to start working on our offense.

The Offensive Needs:

1. Running back (Color Green gone) It looks like other NFL teams are interested in Green and TT will not get in a bidding war when he could use that money for our future starting RB. I think TT will draft our future featured back in the 1st or 2nd round.
2. Guard. We need to get an experienced solid starting vet in there and let the rest our promising offensive lineman fight it out for he other two spots. I think Thompson will grab an experienced lineman in FA.
3. A Wide receiver. I think this will be addressed in the draft as this draft is filled with quality WRs. This position is a very big question mark. Depending on The Robinson situation and the outside shot that Fergie could stay healthy long enough to remember that he sometimes has to fight for passes, we may not be in “THAT BAD” Shape in the WR department. But I think we have to draft one for insurance.
4. A Tight End. Again I think this will be addressed in the draft. Our GM and HC say we are set at the TE position. I don’t think anyone (including themselves) believe that....

[HarveyWallbangers]

2. Guard. We need to get an experienced solid starting vet in there and let the rest our promising offensive lineman fight it out for he other two spots. I think Thompson will grab an experienced lineman in FA.

I didn't know we were going to a three OG lineup.

[TopHat]

EDITING.

8) 8) :lol:

[TopHat]

2. Guard. We need to get an experienced solid starting vet in there and let the rest our promising offensive lineman fight it out for he other two spots. I think Thompson will grab an experienced lineman in FA.

I didn't know we were going to a three OG lineup.


TOP HAT: WHILE BC SUGGESTS A OG NEED, THE FA/DRAFT THREAD QUOTES A RELIABLE SOURCE [ABOVE] THAT THE PACK ARE LOOKING AT GETTING AN EXPERIENCED TACKLE.

[TopHat]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2007/mann021607.htm

Pack needs a lot more than Favre to contend by Court E. Mann PFW

Bolstered by a late-season surge, Brett Favre is coming back. Encouraged by a four-game winning streak to close out the 2006 campaign, the first-ballot Hall of Famer is spitting in the face of retirement for at least one more season. Inspired by finishing out of the playoffs by a mere tiebreaker, the three-time MVP is ready for one last run at the Super Bowl. "I am so excited about coming back," Favre said in his formal announcement to the Biloxi Sun Herald. "We have a good nucleus of young players. We were 8-8 last year and that's encouraging. My offensive line looks good, the defense played good down the stretch. I'm excited about playing for a talented young football team." "He definitely feels good about it," Scott Favre, Brett's older brother, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. "He's still playing good and he sees the future is brighter. I think that (four-game win streak) pretty much summed it up. Winning those four games late kind of changed everybody's mindset. I told him, ‘You pick up a couple players, everybody stays healthy, who knows, you might make a run at it next year.’” Did I miss something here? Since when did the 8-8 Packers become the ’72 Dolphins? Look, Favre is more than entitled to play whenever and wherever, whether his team is 16-0 or 0-16. However, the notion that this Packers team is inches away from contending for a Super Bowl title is bright-eyed, bushy-tailed optimism seen through cheddar-stained glasses. Yes, the NFC is the junior varsity. Yes, the Saints were 3-13 a year ago. It’s not completely ludicrous to imagine the Packers sneaking into the NFC tournament in 2007. It’s also not all that probable either. How quickly we forget that Green Bay won a grand total of one game against winning teams in 2006. In eight games against teams .500 or better, the Packers were 1-7 and outscored by a margin of 228-116. Their one win was a bizarre season finale which pitted an admittedly distracted Bears team against a focused Packers squad motivated by the spectacle of Favre’s possible swan song. How easily we bypass the fact that the other three teams left in the dust by the surging Packers in this “rejuvenating” win streak were the sunken Vikings, the hapless Lions and the dynasty formerly known as the 49ers. How distant in our memory is the three-game losing streak that preceded this surge. And the 3-5 record the Packers posted on their prestigious home turf, including three drubbings by the Bears (26-0), the Patriots (35-0) and the Jets (38-10). I don’t mean to be unnecessarily harsh. Green Bay most certainly made strides last season, and there is reason for optimism. But to hear the talk, in the wake of Favre’s comeback revelation, that they’re on the cusp of greatness is a little much. One NFL pundit to remain nameless went as far as suggesting the NFC North is wide open. Evidently that team from Chicago with a Super Bowl berth, two straight division titles and more wins than anyone in the conference over the past two seasons is waving the white flag for the Green and Gold. More realistically, the Packers will need to exploit the rest of the North — as they did this year in sweeping the Lions and Vikings — to compete for a wild-card spot. Considering the depth and competition in the NFC East and the NFC South, that will be no small task, especially with a schedule that trades the NFC West and the AFC East for the NFC East and the AFC West. Goodbye Cardinals and Bills, hello Chargers and Eagles. Long story short, it’s going to take a lot more than Favre and a promising, young nucleus to make this team a legitimate contender. And considering the Packers already have last year’s rookies playing prominent roles all over the field, adding another round of youngsters, even an impact class, isn’t likely to help. Another young receiver or lineman will not provide sufficient punch for the NFL’s 31st-ranked red-zone offense. Hence the Randy Moss conjecture, however sordid and unlikely it seems. Veteran linebacking and safety help is needed for a defense that seems to be measuring itself far too often on success against the Niners, Lions, Vikings and skeleton Bears. A complete overhaul is in order for a special-teams unit that ranked dead last for the second straight season. That stat paints a scary, yet telling, picture regarding the team’s overall depth. Let’s not forget that the Packers were remarkably healthy a year ago, losing only one game total to its starting defense.
So the onus is on the Packers’ front office to get it done when free agency opens on March 2, and GM Ted Thompson has the cap space to make it happen — even if his history suggests reluctance to do so and a preference for leaning more heavily on the draft. “We feel like if we're doing things to help the team get better, whatever it is, whoever the quarterback is, whether it's Brett or whomever it might be, we're going to try to get better,” Thompson said. “And if we can do that in free agency, we'll do that.” If Thompson can follow through on that, perhaps then I’ll smell what the Cheeseheads are cookin’.

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BEARS FRANCHISED BRIGGS.

RAVENS' DECISION DAY FOR THOMAS IS FEB. 22.

PACKERS UNLIKELY TO TRADE FOR MOSS. Footfall Futures says, "Despite rumors and Favre's public request, the Packers now seem unlikely to trade for Randy Moss. First, there has been almost no internal discussion of Moss by the Packers. Second the Raiders are now rumored to want a second round pick for Moss. It seems very doubtful that Packers GM Ted Thompson, who typicaly looks to acquire draft picks and build through the draft, would be willing to let go of a second rounder for a 30 year-old receiver with a huge contract and a ton of baggage."

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editing.

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[Bretsky]

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2007/mann021607.htm

Pack needs a lot more than Favre to contend by Court E. Mann PFW

Bolstered by a late-season surge, Brett Favre is coming back. Encouraged by a four-game winning streak to close out the 2006 campaign, the first-ballot Hall of Famer is spitting in the face of retirement for at least one more season. Inspired by finishing out of the playoffs by a mere tiebreaker, the three-time MVP is ready for one last run at the Super Bowl. "I am so excited about coming back," Favre said in his formal announcement to the Biloxi Sun Herald. "We have a good nucleus of young players. We were 8-8 last year and that's encouraging. My offensive line looks good, the defense played good down the stretch. I'm excited about playing for a talented young football team." "He definitely feels good about it," Scott Favre, Brett's older brother, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. "He's still playing good and he sees the future is brighter. I think that (four-game win streak) pretty much summed it up. Winning those four games late kind of changed everybody's mindset. I told him, ‘You pick up a couple players, everybody stays healthy, who knows, you might make a run at it next year.’” Did I miss something here? Since when did the 8-8 Packers become the ’72 Dolphins? Look, Favre is more than entitled to play whenever and wherever, whether his team is 16-0 or 0-16. However, the notion that this Packers team is inches away from contending for a Super Bowl title is bright-eyed, bushy-tailed optimism seen through cheddar-stained glasses. Yes, the NFC is the junior varsity. Yes, the Saints were 3-13 a year ago. It’s not completely ludicrous to imagine the Packers sneaking into the NFC tournament in 2007. It’s also not all that probable either. How quickly we forget that Green Bay won a grand total of one game against winning teams in 2006. In eight games against teams .500 or better, the Packers were 1-7 and outscored by a margin of 228-116. Their one win was a bizarre season finale which pitted an admittedly distracted Bears team against a focused Packers squad motivated by the spectacle of Favre’s possible swan song. How easily we bypass the fact that the other three teams left in the dust by the surging Packers in this “rejuvenating” win streak were the sunken Vikings, the hapless Lions and the dynasty formerly known as the 49ers. How distant in our memory is the three-game losing streak that preceded this surge. And the 3-5 record the Packers posted on their prestigious home turf, including three drubbings by the Bears (26-0), the Patriots (35-0) and the Jets (38-10). I don’t mean to be unnecessarily harsh. Green Bay most certainly made strides last season, and there is reason for optimism. But to hear the talk, in the wake of Favre’s comeback revelation, that they’re on the cusp of greatness is a little much. One NFL pundit to remain nameless went as far as suggesting the NFC North is wide open. Evidently that team from Chicago with a Super Bowl berth, two straight division titles and more wins than anyone in the conference over the past two seasons is waving the white flag for the Green and Gold. More realistically, the Packers will need to exploit the rest of the North — as they did this year in sweeping the Lions and Vikings — to compete for a wild-card spot. Considering the depth and competition in the NFC East and the NFC South, that will be no small task, especially with a schedule that trades the NFC West and the AFC East for the NFC East and the AFC West. Goodbye Cardinals and Bills, hello Chargers and Eagles. Long story short, it’s going to take a lot more than Favre and a promising, young nucleus to make this team a legitimate contender. And considering the Packers already have last year’s rookies playing prominent roles all over the field, adding another round of youngsters, even an impact class, isn’t likely to help. Another young receiver or lineman will not provide sufficient punch for the NFL’s 31st-ranked red-zone offense. Hence the Randy Moss conjecture, however sordid and unlikely it seems. Veteran linebacking and safety help is needed for a defense that seems to be measuring itself far too often on success against the Niners, Lions, Vikings and skeleton Bears. A complete overhaul is in order for a special-teams unit that ranked dead last for the second straight season. That stat paints a scary, yet telling, picture regarding the team’s overall depth. Let’s not forget that the Packers were remarkably healthy a year ago, losing only one game total to its starting defense.
So the onus is on the Packers’ front office to get it done when free agency opens on March 2, and GM Ted Thompson has the cap space to make it happen — even if his history suggests reluctance to do so and a preference for leaning more heavily on the draft. “We feel like if we're doing things to help the team get better, whatever it is, whoever the quarterback is, whether it's Brett or whomever it might be, we're going to try to get better,” Thompson said. “And if we can do that in free agency, we'll do that.” If Thompson can follow through on that, perhaps then I’ll smell what the Cheeseheads are cookin’.

Agree completely on all of this; last year was a strong step toward respectability. But this year TT needs to take a step just as strong or stronger.

I like the idea of getting a starting capable OG in free agency and letting them all fight it out for the two spots.

Obviously we have to upgrade at TE, WR, and S in order to take that step forward.

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http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm by PFT

GREEN BAY GOING DEFENSE IN FREE AGENCY. We reported recently that the Packers' first target in free agency will be Ravens linebacker/defensive end Adalius Thomas. [heading to 49rss?] We're now hearing that the defensive side of the ball will be the primary, if not exclusive, focus of the team's efforts in free agency. [maybe power OG/OT too] Last year, quarterback Brett Favre spoke openly about wanting the team to make a free-agent acquisition along the lines of defensive end Reggie White. Though there was no Reggie-type player available last year (and there isn't one available this year), quantity could be the key as the Packers improve their ability to keep other teams off of the scoreboard. [and quality WR in deep WR draft]

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17858733&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6

Stallworth is posturing for free agency. Stallworth isn’t eligible to seek offers until free agency begins....In various media interviews he indicated there was interest from the San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers in addition to the Eagles. The Niners are said to have the most interest in Stallworth, with the Minnesota Vikings and the Green Bay Packers lesser suitors.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.thomas16feb16,0,5399475.story?coll=bal-sports-football

Thomas wants to stay a Raven. If the Ravens don't use the franchise tag on Adalius Thomas next week, the All-Pro linebacker is still hopeful about returning to the team as a free agent[/b]. Other interested teams - such as San Francisco, New England, Cleveland and Green Bay - have more salary cap room than the Ravens and can offer Thomas substantially more in a long-term contract.


FURTHER, with Briggs tagged, Bears rumblings that Thomas Jones, Mike Brown, or Adawale Ogunleye are being released. With Samuel being franchised by the Patriots, Graham will probably not be a Patriot next year.

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http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+North/Green+Bay/Features/2007/mann021607.htm

Pack needs a lot more than Favre to contend by Court E. Mann PFW

Bolstered by a late-season surge, Brett Favre is coming back. Encouraged by a four-game winning streak to close out the 2006 campaign, the first-ballot Hall of Famer is spitting in the face of retirement for at least one more season. Inspired by finishing out of the playoffs by a mere tiebreaker, the three-time MVP is ready for one last run at the Super Bowl. "I am so excited about coming back," Favre said in his formal announcement to the Biloxi Sun Herald. "We have a good nucleus of young players. We were 8-8 last year and that's encouraging. My offensive line looks good, the defense played good down the stretch. I'm excited about playing for a talented young football team." "He definitely feels good about it," Scott Favre, Brett's older brother, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. "He's still playing good and he sees the future is brighter. I think that (four-game win streak) pretty much summed it up. Winning those four games late kind of changed everybody's mindset. I told him, ‘You pick up a couple players, everybody stays healthy, who knows, you might make a run at it next year.’” Did I miss something here? Since when did the 8-8 Packers become the ’72 Dolphins? Look, Favre is more than entitled to play whenever and wherever, whether his team is 16-0 or 0-16. However, the notion that this Packers team is inches away from contending for a Super Bowl title is bright-eyed, bushy-tailed optimism seen through cheddar-stained glasses. Yes, the NFC is the junior varsity. Yes, the Saints were 3-13 a year ago. It’s not completely ludicrous to imagine the Packers sneaking into the NFC tournament in 2007. It’s also not all that probable either. How quickly we forget that Green Bay won a grand total of one game against winning teams in 2006. In eight games against teams .500 or better, the Packers were 1-7 and outscored by a margin of 228-116. Their one win was a bizarre season finale which pitted an admittedly distracted Bears team against a focused Packers squad motivated by the spectacle of Favre’s possible swan song. How easily we bypass the fact that the other three teams left in the dust by the surging Packers in this “rejuvenating” win streak were the sunken Vikings, the hapless Lions and the dynasty formerly known as the 49ers. How distant in our memory is the three-game losing streak that preceded this surge. And the 3-5 record the Packers posted on their prestigious home turf, including three drubbings by the Bears (26-0), the Patriots (35-0) and the Jets (38-10). I don’t mean to be unnecessarily harsh. Green Bay most certainly made strides last season, and there is reason for optimism. But to hear the talk, in the wake of Favre’s comeback revelation, that they’re on the cusp of greatness is a little much. One NFL pundit to remain nameless went as far as suggesting the NFC North is wide open. Evidently that team from Chicago with a Super Bowl berth, two straight division titles and more wins than anyone in the conference over the past two seasons is waving the white flag for the Green and Gold. More realistically, the Packers will need to exploit the rest of the North — as they did this year in sweeping the Lions and Vikings — to compete for a wild-card spot. Considering the depth and competition in the NFC East and the NFC South, that will be no small task, especially with a schedule that trades the NFC West and the AFC East for the NFC East and the AFC West. Goodbye Cardinals and Bills, hello Chargers and Eagles. Long story short, it’s going to take a lot more than Favre and a promising, young nucleus to make this team a legitimate contender. And considering the Packers already have last year’s rookies playing prominent roles all over the field, adding another round of youngsters, even an impact class, isn’t likely to help. Another young receiver or lineman will not provide sufficient punch for the NFL’s 31st-ranked red-zone offense. Hence the Randy Moss conjecture, however sordid and unlikely it seems. Veteran linebacking and safety help is needed for a defense that seems to be measuring itself far too often on success against the Niners, Lions, Vikings and skeleton Bears. A complete overhaul is in order for a special-teams unit that ranked dead last for the second straight season. That stat paints a scary, yet telling, picture regarding the team’s overall depth. Let’s not forget that the Packers were remarkably healthy a year ago, losing only one game total to its starting defense.
So the onus is on the Packers’ front office to get it done when free agency opens on March 2, and GM Ted Thompson has the cap space to make it happen — even if his history suggests reluctance to do so and a preference for leaning more heavily on the draft. “We feel like if we're doing things to help the team get better, whatever it is, whoever the quarterback is, whether it's Brett or whomever it might be, we're going to try to get better,” Thompson said. “And if we can do that in free agency, we'll do that.” If Thompson can follow through on that, perhaps then I’ll smell what the Cheeseheads are cookin’.

Agree completely on all of this; last year was a strong step toward respectability. But this year TT needs to take a step just as strong or stronger.

I like the idea of getting a starting capable OG in free agency and letting them all fight it out for the two spots.

Obviously we have to upgrade at TE, WR, and S in order to take that step forward.


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[RashanGary]

I was disappointed in his first draft but the way the cap is and how many good young players we have is a step in the right direction. i think we'll really find out what TT is made of next season when Favre retires. If we're 8-8 or better the year after Favre, I'm extatic and I think we have the blocks to be special if the right QB or Rodgers turns out.

As for now, I expect us to be 9-7 with Favre next season and play our best football late like young teams do.


I've been a HUGE Thompson supporter. He mgiht fail, but I really believe in most of his approach. We'll find out soon enough.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It's no given that Favre will retire next year. Depends on how this season goes. If the team improves a couple of games and gets into the playoffs and he plays well, he'll be back in 2008.

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Good mortal men & women, seeing the last waves by, cry out how bright

Their frail deeds might forever be glorious in a green bay across the Fox,

Rage, rally, and regroup against the fading of the green & gold light

[MJZiggy]

It's no given that Favre will retire next year. Depends on how this season goes. If the team improves a couple of games and gets into the playoffs and he plays well, he'll be back in 2008.

There's no way I'm even gonna begin to worry about that right now. He came back this year surrounded by doubt as to what his decision would be. I will enjoy this season like I did last season and worry about what he's gonna do when it's time for him to do it.

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http://www.packerchatters.com/op-ed/view.php?id=372

War Room Draft Guide Updated Mock by Scott Hanadel PackerChatters.com

1. Oakland - J. Russell QB LSU - Don't be shocked if the Raiders bypass both QB's and select Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson because of the money.

2. Detroit - C. Johnson WR Georgia Tech - Thomas is tempting here as are the QBs but this WR is as talented as any - ever.

3. Cleveland - B. Quinn QB Notre Dame - A popular choice with fans and Quinn himself. Adrian Peterson is a very real possibility.

4. Tampa Bay - J. Anderson DE Arkansas - The Bucs would love for Quinn to be on the board and there is a chance. The key in the top half dozen or so picks will be what the teams with picks 1 and 2 do. Joe Thomas would also be a great selection.

5. Arizona - J. Thomas OT Wisconsin - The Cardinals biggest need is filled with the best OT prospect in years. Don't they wish it would unfold this way!

6. Washington - A. Branch DT Michigan - The Skins get a true force in the middle of their D-line.

7. Minnesota - R. Nelson S/CB Florida - Don't laugh, Nelson may blow them away with workouts and his big play ability is special. The Vikes couldn't stop the pass and Nelson would be a great addition. A WR or DL along with a true CB are possible selections.

8. Houston - A. Peterson RB Oklahoma - How fast would the Texans get the card up front if Peterson would be on the board?

9. Miami - G. Adams DE Clemson - Lets see, Taylor on one side and Adams on the other. What a nice DE combination that would be. Miami may look at the O-line as well as a DT or an addition to the secondary.

10. Atlanta - D. Jarrett WR USC - Ginn could also be the pick but Jarrett gives them more stability in that short to intermediate game as well as a great target around the goal line and in short yardage situations.

11. San Francisco - T. Ginn WR/KR - Ohio St. - If it's not Ginn it could be Jarrett. A nice weapon for Alex Wright that can flat out stretch the field. Don't be shocked with a defensive player at almost any position.

12. Buffalo - L. Brown OT Penn St. - The Bills have had great success with o-lineman early and Brown is a real bruiser that would fit in well in Buffalo

13. St. Louis - L. Landry S LSU - A very good addition to the Rams secondary. A CB could be the pick as could a WR.

14. Carolina - L. Hall CB Michigan - The Panther defense slipped some last year and their secondary needs some help. If one of the top two safeties are still on the board the Panthers may bite. Pittsburgh CB D. Revis could be rated higher on their board and could warrant the pick over Hall.

15. Pittsburgh - Q. Moses DE Georgia - Moses was projected top 5 before the season and the Steelers defense slipped a bit last season.

16. Green Bay - M. Lynch RB California - A versatile player I compare to a young E. James. The Packers love the top two S's as well as the top three WR's. A DE is also a real possibility.

17. Jacksonville - D. Bowe WR LSU - I prefer Meachem until I get their workouts but Bowe is big as well and is a true threat.

18. Cincinnati - D. Revis CB Pittsburgh - The top rated corner on many boards and an instant starter for the Bengals.

19. Tennessee - R. Meacham WR Tennessee - What a popular choice and a great weapon for Vince Young.

20. N.Y. Giants - A. Okoye DT Louisville - A great addition and a player that slipped. The Giants LB-ing corps could use an upgrade as well.

21. Denver - C. Houston CB Arkansas - The Broncos seem to like the flambouyant types and Houstojn fits the bill.

22. Dallas - J. Blalock OG/OT Texas - A home state guy that is an outstanding prospect with the versatility to play Guard or Tackle.

23. Kansas City - J. Moss DE Florida - An awesome talent that brings an instant pass rush to the Chiefs. A corner will be looked at as well.

24. New England - L. Timmons OLB Florida St. - Timmons could go much higher so the Pats get great value. Timmons immediately upgrades the speed on the Patriots defense.

25. N.Y. Jets - P. Willis ILB Mississippi - If Willis were available here he would be to good to pass up.

26. Philadelphia - S. Rice WR South Carolina - The Eagles need help on the outside and Rice although raw has a load of talent.

27. New Orleans - Z. Miller TE Arizona St. - Just what the Siants need, another weapon for Brees. Greg Olsen of Miami will draw interest as well.

28. New England - Adam Carriker DE Nebraska - Carriker is a fast riser that may go in the top twenty. The Patriots will be looking at WR as well as secondary help.

29. Baltimore - R.Kalil OC USC - A top flight center prospect that will start early. The Ravens will think long and hard about a QB with names like Stanton, Smith coming up.

30. San Diego - M. Bush RB Louisville - If the Chargers lose Turner this pick makes sense. If healthy, Bush in my opinion is a top 15 talent.

31. Chicago - F. Bennett CB South Carolina - A very good all around player that adds great versatility and athletic skills to the Bears secondary

32. Indianapolis - P. Posluzsny ILB/OLB Penn St. - In my opinion the perfect fit for the Colts. This great player adds toughness and smarts to the Colts defense. He would instantly improve the Colts porous run defense.

[PackerPro42]

Hey I could handle that, but you all know how I feel about Lynch.

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http://www.packerchatters.com/op-ed/view.php?id=371

Run to Daylight: - Return to Glory Bruce Smith PackerChatters.com

Mike McCarthy declared immediately upon his hire that as Head Coach, and player caller, the Packers would run the ball. He reaffirmed that commitment by hiring Jeff Jagodzinski, an offensive line coach, as his offensive coordinator to install the zone blocking scheme. Jagodzinski has moved on to Boston College but McCarthy promised he did not take the team's desire to rush the football with him. It did not take too much time into his debut season before McCarthy was forced to face the reality that comes with having two to three rookie starting offensive linemen. Circumstances dictated putting the ball in the hands of his future Hall of Fame QB was his best chance at victory – so he did, early and often. But with some maturation and perhaps changes in the offensive line, one should look for McCarthy to try and but the rush back in the running game in ‘07’. So when looking at running backs it makes sense to look first to the guys who most often carry the rock – half backs, and where better to start than with their best HB Ahman (Batman) Green.
Ahman Green is a great running back. In fact, with his 8,491 yards Green is less than one game away from breaking Jimmy Taylor’s record as the Packers all-time leading rusher. Yet, just about every off season “rumors of his (Ahman’s) demise have been greatly exaggerated...” Once again last season, Green, coming back from a torn tendon, quietly went about leading the Packers and posting great numbers without the fanfare one might expect to accompany such a productive player. Like last off season, Green is once again a free agent and is faced with two choices: One choice would be to test the free agency market. Where unlike last season, a healthy Ahman Green is likely to draw plenty of interest in a year where GM’s have more mad money than they know what to do with, and a selection of free agent running backs that is not exactly awe inspiring. The other choice for Batman is to follow his heart and work out a deal with Ted Thompson, allowing him to finish his career wearing the Green and Gold he has come to love. After all, Green is less than a full game away from becoming Green Bay's all-time leading rusher, he loves playing for the Packers and many fans love Green and want to see him claim the mantle of all-time great leading rusher. Days short of being 30 (while writing this), Green is not the running back he was a few years ago, but for the last two seasons he has also been running behind a line and FB that are nothing like he had just two seasons before. Don’t believe for a second that these changes are not huge factors in any noted decline. However, do not expect to hear any complains from Green. As RB Coach Edgar Bennett says, "He's playing with a chip on his shoulder; he's playing with something to prove. Ahman, he's a competitor. He wants to be the best, he wants to succeed, he wants what's best for the Green Bay Packers. I love that about him. When he steps on the field, there's not a doubt in my mind he's going to give us everything he has." In a bounce back season after tearing a tendon in ‘05’ Ahman put up 1,059 yards in just 14 games in ‘06’ while averaging a hair short of 4 yards per carry. He is still an attacking down hill runner who gives as much as he receives in his battles with defenders. His health (chronic asthma) makes him an ideal one in a one/two punch running combination where he can be limited to somewhere between 55% and 70% of the carries.
On the plus side: Green still can get up and go. Running behind a green largely ineffective line he still put up five 100 plus yard games. At a well cut 6’ 218 lbs, Ahman is an explosive runner, who has that sudden burst that punishes tacklers’ by exploding into them right before impact – often turning the tables on defenders trying to deliver a big hit. He does not shy away from contact, but has a nice spin move and the speed to make defenders miss if they are too cautious in attacking him. Green’s 70 yard run against Miami demonstrated his still excellent speed and 2nd gear has not abandoned him. And his 14 carries for 104 yards and a 7.2 average were the only bright spots in the NYJ massacre, as were the 110 against the hailed Bears in the season opener. Green is still dangerous in the open field, which is one of the reasons Packer offenses always tried to get him the ball in check downs so frequently. When the timing is together, he is one of the best screen threats in the league still to this day.
On the down side: Ahman is not getting any younger, he will be 30 during the 2007 season. He is no longer the full-time dominate runner that some would like to see wearing Green and Gold, and will enter the 2007 season. For some reason, Green’s usually reliable hands took a vacation in ‘06’ as he posted a career worst 12.7% drop rate. Mike McCarthy claims that this something easily fixed and is partially attributable to increased blocking responsibility in the MAX protection he was forced to call this past season. One might hypothesis that Green’s rigorous tendon rehab kept him from working as much as he should in and on receiving drills too. He also is not as durable as he once was, but he silenced critics with his solid production last season coming back from what most thought was a career ending injury. Other assets that Green brings to the table are a tireless work ethic and a strong leadership by example veteran who can serve as a mentor to any heir who is brought in to eventually replace him. The coaching staff claims to really want him back and GM Ted Thompson has been very careful to not insult or burn any bridges with this valuable veteran. Decisions around Green will dictate so many things in the draft and free agency. I am sure that Thompson and Green would like to get to a decision sooner than later. We will all have to stay tuned…
Vernand Morency has the talent to be a player in this league. The only real question is does he have the talent to be a feature back or is he a career #2 or #3 guy who provides solid depth and good rotation? Like Green, Vernand has burst that catches defenders flat footed at times and nice moves in the open field that leave defenders grasping at air when it works. He is quicker than he is fast, with good lateral and veer quickness, and he can change direction in stride. He has vision that helps him in traffic, which is essential for fitting into the Packers running game. At 5’9” (or 5’10” if you want to be generous) and 212 pounds he runs well downhill, squaring his shoulders and hitting holes and cuts quickly with good pad level – which makes him a good fit for a zone blocking scheme. He is strong enough to run through arm and sloppy tackling techniques, but is not a power back that will get you the consistent tough yard. He is a fighter though, and surprises people once he gets a full head of steam going. Morency is a decent enough blocker for a HB, not a striker but he will face up particularly when blocking on the edge. He does show a willingness to do the job and with experience should be able to handle blitz pickups well. Vernand has the kind of hands that could be developed and with work Verand could be developed into a very good 3rd down back. His running style would fit into a multitude of screens and flairs and his quickness is ideal for draws. Morency’s downside at this point includes: Vernand can still regress to sloppy technique, which sometimes feeds an old tendency to put the ball on the turf when reckless. Some question his durability to be a primary runner, seeing him instead as a rotation back or a potential 3rd down specialist. Morency has had some character issues that have followed him and is a guy who warrants keeping a close eye on and this must be factored into any long term decision making on his future with a team. On the other hand, reports are he was a boy scout with the Packers last season.
Noah Herron is a hard working kid who gets the most out of his limited athletic ability. Noah out-hustled and outworked his competition to steal a roster spot when Davenport was released. You can bet NO ONE will outwork him this off season. He is assignment sure, and runs, blocks and receives the football consistently, but certainly not flashy. He was the Packers primary third down back, but has to be considered a significant down grade from Tony Fisher – the player who held the position before him. Fisher was bigger, faster and more consistent, but Herron won the job when Tony moved on to St. Louis. Noah is the type of player who has a big heart and works his butt off – often the kind of guy that earns a living by standing out doing the dirty work on special teams. Herron is also the type of player many teams like to have in their back pockets for signing if their roster gets depleted by injuries However if he is making a roster out of training camp, it brings into question the talent base the team put up for him to compete with.
Arliss Beach is an interesting story – one that many like to compare with Samkon Gado. There is a piece of misinformation frequently bandied about Arliss, stating that like Gado, he was never a starter in college. The truth is he was a starter who could never stay healthy – with fluke injury after fluke injury keeping him from ever putting his college game together. In fact, as a sophomore in his first start (against Florida) he scored all three TD in Kentucky’s near upset of the highly ranked SEC foe that afternoon. A most noteworthy thing about his college career is that Beach NEVER FUMBLED once in his 4 years at Kentucky, despite playing TB and being a kick return man for the Wildcats. Beach stood out in training camp with his quickness and pop in drills and scrimmages. And when given his first real opportunity Arliss exploded against the Atlanta Falcons for 50 yards on 9 carries, for a 5.5 average, while the rest of the running backs struggled to gain any yardage at all. Arliss is a tough versatile young player, who can block, receive and run with surprising suddenness. As former offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski said about Beach, “the guy that really ran downhill was Beach. We’ve been impressed with him in practice. he needs to stay consistent. He may have a real chance…” Head Coach Mike McCarthy said, “I’m in favor of tough guys, and I think he’s a tough, physical football player. He put his foot down and ran with a lot of forward lean. I think he’s a young man with a bright future. Beach looked as though he was on this way to making the roster in ‘06’ when he suffered the dreaded high ankle sprain in the final preseason game against the Tennessee Titans. Instead he ended up riding the injured reserve list which may have been a blessing. With a full off season of work in Green Bay and a year under his belt learning the offense – maybe, just maybe Arliss will avoid injury and finally get his long awaited day at the Beach.
P.J. Pope, a 5-9 220 lb 22 year old was snatched from da bear’s practice squad and put on the Packers’ roster last season. Say what you will about the Bears, but running backs is one thing they seem to have ample supply of, and Pope was good enough for them to want to retain him. P.J. has soft hands and is a tough runner. Pope put up big numbers as a rusher and receivers in his sophomore and junior seasons (all-conference) at Bowling Green where he is the only player in their history to rush for more than 3000 yards and accumulate more than 1,000 yards in receptions. He played big in Bowl games rushing for 157 and 2 TDs against Memphis and 214 yards vs. Western Michigan. During the pre-season , Pope led the Bears in rushing with 153 yard and a touchdown and had 4 catches for 4.3 yards. It was enough to gain him a spot on their practice squad and they were not pleased to lose him to the Packers.
Speaking of guys whose “reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated,” William Henderson has been slated to be replaced in each of the last three seasons. But like the energizer bunny Hendo just “keeps on running…” or more precisely keeps blocking...William Henderson is 36 years old, and once again he is slated for replacement. On the other side of the argument Henderson is under contract at the veterans minimum for ‘07’ and in recent days Head Coach Mike McCarthy has started to say he would like to see Henderson come back and give it another run. Shifting to this new zone blocking scheme, Henderson struggled mightily for the first half of the season, resulting in the Packers signing Brandon Miree to replace him. Just when it looked like it was over for the old work horse Miree went down to injury. Henderson reclaimed his job and while he rotated after Brandon’s return, he never surrendered the starting job back and made BIG improvements in the second half of the season. Never a runner, Henderson was once a great blow them up blocker and sure handed receiver out of the backfield. He now is steady but not great at both. 2007 should make the 4th straight season the Packers look to bring in his replacement. I think it might be in his and the team’s best interest to hang them up and move on to his next career. However, if William gets the itch to come back for another run, I wouldn’t bet against him.
Brandon Miree is the heir apparent starting fullback of the Green Bay Packers. He is not a blow them up blocker like Henderson once was, but he is a great athlete with speed and versatility that belies a man his size. Brandon ran a 4.42 40 on an indoor track and 4.58 outdoors and once put up a 10.6 in the 100 meter dash. Another thing Miree, a solid TB in college, does well that Henderson never could is run with the ball, something that McCarthy would like to do more with the FB in his version of WC offense. At 6 foot 240 lbs, Miree is a tough downhill runner who is strong enough to get that tough yard and with enough burst to run away from defenders if they hesitate. He has a well cut muscular frame with thick legs and broad shoulders and runs with a low pad level which is essential for success in the Pros. He came into the league with a reputation for holding on to the rock well despite being a runner who keeps his legs driving a guy who wants to fight for every extra inch possible. However, one of the reasons he transferred from Alabama to Pittsburgh is he struggled with fumbling early in his career with the Crimson Tide. Brandon also has soft hands and should be able to fill the job required of a WC FB in snaring his share of passes on check-downs, screens and passes to the flats. His speed should give the ability to do something with it once he catches it too. He played in a zone blocking scheme at Pittsburgh and was a solid, but not devastating blocker who can reach his target and engage well. Miree captured the attention of the Packer’s coaching staff immediately upon arriving in GB. he flat out beat Henderson out for the starting job. Before injuring his elbow he was getting all of the snaps and after returning to play hurt with a brace, Brandon still split the job down the Packers very productive stretch in December.

Most have the Packers slated to take a RB in day one of the draft – and some rate this a very solid and deep draft for RBs. Some have speculated about rumors of Players who may become available through trade, but honestly any solid backs available in trade are likely to be very costly given the mediocre free agent class available. Look for Ted Thompson to make a move at RB, even if it is signing Ahman Green, who is rated the top FA running back on most boards, and to draft a player who will eventually be his replacement for the future. They are also likely to look for a big powerful blocking FB to rotate with Miree is Henderson retires, and maybe even if he does not. In GB, RB is a position with many possible scenarios. The problems with predicting which way this story will play out is the interdependence of each move in its unfolding. Look for the first move to happen pretty quickly in the next few weeks where the Green story will be the first move to reveal itself – and that will be just the start of what could be quite the off season ride.

[BallHawk]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:

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Anyone would have been an improvement over Sherman... I took a wait and see approach at TT's arrival.

Still have a wait and see approach... It'll take more than one good draft in a row to win me over - and then there is the matter of letting Wahle walk, punting Walker, drafting Rodgers, and the weak offensive and defensive schemes.

Wait and see...

I agree for the most part with Wist.

I'm impressed by what Ted has done so far. However, there's a big difference between just being better than Sherman, and building a consistent contender. Were 3 years in, and it's about time for that next big leap.

Honeymoon is over. It's time to win the division.



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[Charles Woodson]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

[PackerPro42]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

That and he doesn't fit our system well at all.

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On the Sideline by JA Packerschatters.com

The Packers plan on making a BIG PUSH for Adalius Thomas. The team feels he can have a major impact as a DE and even play some SLB. Ted Thompson has made him his top priority (as long as the Raven don't Franchise him). Even though he said he like warm weather (on Cold Pizza), money talks and the Packers have a lot of it. I think the Packers have decided to NOT pursue Randy Moss and will upgrade the WR position via the draft. In the end, they would rather risk a pick on a player that is younger and has less baggage. The Raiders asking price also has went up and the packers don't want to pay the price tag (possibly a 1st round pick). The Green Bay Packers have shaved away the playing surface at Lambeau Field and excavated to a depth of about three feet. The field will be reworked with better drainage, rewired for a better in-ground heating system and replanted with a mix of real and synthetic blades of grass (alot like the surface played on in the Super Bowl)....Ted Ginn will not do the drills at the combine this weekend, waiting for his pro day to work out and also so he could continue to rehab his foot. [TO ANSWER ?? ABOUT INJURY STATUS].
..."I have always admired Randy Moss' ability to play football. He was on pace for the first 4 years of his career to be the greatest WR in the history of the NFL. He has all the tools to STILL be that WR again, but in Oaklnad it wont happen (at least until Russell gets aclimated to the NFL)....The fact that the Packers were actually talking about it and considering doing it shows that they feel they are not that far away form being a contender again in their eyes. I have always stated that Thompson has a plan and he is sticking to it, and that includes drafting smart and adding FA's at the right time (Woodson last year for example) and the right price. We may not like the fact the Packers are not in the news like the Cowboys, Pats, Colts or other teams, but to me that shows a level of calm headedness, an organization that keeps things in house and direction. To me Ted Thompson has solitified the packers front office after Mike Sherman had the Packers in cap hell and (to me at least) waisted some of Brett Favre's best years by only winning division titles (in a VERY WEAK DIVISION AT THAT TIME), losing home field advantage and not advancing deep into the playoffs....Ok, but who is there as an impact offensive FA? Drew Bennett? NO, and I dont see the big deal with him, he is slow and that is NOT what the Packers need, another pedestrian WR. Dontè Stallworth, he has speed, but he is also an injury risk. Ashlie Lelie? HA! Ahman Green is the best FA RB and he has injury questions thats why he is not already resigned. Michael Turner could be a guy but agian, is he worth the price you'd have to pay when a player with simular ability is available in the draft?! This is not a good year for offensive FA's. If the Packers were to upgrade the defense via FA, and then add the playmakers in the draft, it would REALLY be the smart thing to do. Also, by adding a player like Thomas, it would improve the defense greatly and by the offense some time to get on the same page (for the rookies). A strong defense helped the Packers win the Super Bowl in 96' (#1 vs both run and pass), and the offense (which started off great, but was derailed by injuries) came around towards the end of the year. Finally, if you remember right, the Special Teams played a MAJOR ROLE ALL YEAR LONG, and to me that is even more reason to gop after Ginn...."


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I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

You're like 12. This comment leads to believe that Kenny Irons sucks very little.

[PackerPro42]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

You're like 12. This comment leads to believe that Kenny Irons sucks very little.

Well maybe that's not a good comparison, but I don't think he's the type of player that Lynch or Peterson is. Even when he was playing well at Auburn he was only projected to be a late first round player anyways, but now that he's playing worse, it's obvious that his skill level is not a good as it was thought to be and his speed is mediocre at best.

[Charles Woodson]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

You're like 12. This comment leads to believe that Kenny Irons sucks very little.

try 16 buddy, been blown many times Besides what else is there to do on weekends

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I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

You're like 12. This comment leads to believe that Kenny Irons sucks very little.

Well maybe that's not a good comparison, but I don't think he's the type of player that Lynch or Peterson is. Even when he was playing well at Auburn he was only projected to be a late first round player anyways, but now that he's playing worse, it's obvious that his skill level is not a good as it was thought to be and his speed is mediocre at best.

I agree.

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Here's what we're hearing Packerupdate.com

The Packers want safety Marquand Manuel to get into better shape. The defensive coaches believe that the ex-Seahawk was never in top condition last season due to groin and calf injuries that hampered him throughout the spring and summer. Nobody in the organization wants to believe that Manuel is as awful as he looked in 2006.....Should he decide to test the market as a restricted free agent in a few weeks, Cullen Jenkins might be disappointed in the level of interest he generates. While GMs admire the hard-working defensive lineman, they still aren’t convinced that he has the physical skills to be a true difference-maker over the course of an entire season..... It is unlikely that Bubba Franks and David Martin will be with the team when the season opens in September. GM Ted Thompson wants to ingest some new blood into the tight end position. And depending on what happens in free agency and the draft, there’s even a possibility that neither veteran will be around seven months from now..... And finally, the Packers were one of eight teams that showed 'serious' interest in Brian Leonard at last month’s Senior Bowl. The Rutgers star would be a good fit for a team like Green Bay that asks its fullback to block more on the move than at the point of attack.

[MJZiggy]

Should he decide to test the market as a restricted free agent in a few weeks, Cullen Jenkins might be disappointed in the level of interest he generates. While GMs admire the hard-working defensive lineman, they still aren’t convinced that he has the physical skills to be a true difference-maker over the course of an entire season.....

I would respectfully disagree. If he doesn't see interest, hopefully that means we get him back or that he never gets the chance to find out if there's interest or not.

[BallHawk]

I <3 Kenny Irons. :hug:


Kenny irons sucks more than my girlfriend

You're like 12. This comment leads to believe that Kenny Irons sucks very little.

try 16 buddy, been blown many times Besides what else is there to do on weekends

Sports and fishing.

Oh yeah, and homework. :wink:

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http://www.packerchatters.com/team_info/salary_cap/

Salary Cap

...As of 9 Feb 2007, John Clayton listed the Packers at $24.1m under the 2007 salary cap...my projection at that time was $26,597,285....

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On the Sidelines by JA

...the Packers and Nick Barnett's people are getting a little closer to a deal, locking the MLB up for 5-6 years, I couldn't get my hands on any fiscal details. Look for the Packers to try and make a push for Daniel Graham. At first they were not to sure on whether or not to make a run at him, but it seems they have decided to do so since the Pats franchised Asante Samuel. It seems the Packers have an eye on a BIG OL [could be Floyd "Porkchop" Womack drafted by TT and plays both T and G.] that has ties to Thompson...sorry I cann't say the name today...I will bring it out later in the week. I was told as of today the top 4 WR's on the Packers board are (in no particular order) Ginn, Jarrett, Rice and Bowe. Three RB's to keep your eye on if your a Packers fan are Dwayne Wright, Brian Leonard and Tony Hunt. Look for the Packers to inquire about Deon Grant, but they won't get into a betiding war with other teams over him. The Packers are mulling whether or not to make a run at Cato June....

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JA view: "I was reading another thread and started to think about a possible starting backfield and other offensive positions could look like...

QB's- Favre/Rodgers/Martin or Draft Pick

RB- Dwayne Wright (draft)/Mornecy/Draft pick

FB- Justin Griffith (free agent)/Miree

WR's- Driver/Jennings/Ginn (draft)/Martin/Holliday & possibly Robinson

TE's- Franks/Lee/ draft pick

I wouldn't mind Green resigned, but lets be honest, he is on the last legs of his career and is looking for a payday. I won't over pay for him. If he is willing to come on a 2 year deal then OK. I would also go and over pay for Adalius Thomas. He is 29, entering the PRIME of his career and would complement Kampman perfectly. He is a player that teams need to scheme for. He played DE, LB, CB and S at times during the last 2 seasons believe it or not. Justin Griffith would be my next big signing. I would tender Jenkins and if a team signs him (and the Pack has Thomas, let him go and get the pick(s). I am not sure if he is the player we think he MIGHT be.

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On the Sidelines by JA PC

...The Packers talked to Cullen Jenkins agent last night and are meeting today. They both are optimistic a deal can or will get done, but if not the Packers will put a tender on Jenkins (I was told a 1st round tender). Either way, I was told that the Packers will still go hard after Adalius Thomas, who they consider the top free agent on the market. Speaking of Thomas, he will NOT be named the Ravens "Franchise player". They believe they can resign him while he is on the market, not to mention they would be over the cap if the did tender him. The 49ers and Packers are the front runners tom land him, but the Raiders, Jets, Patriots and Browns also have an interest in him.
Packers GM Ted Thompson caught flack for trading down in round 2 when Chad Jackson (the former WR from Florida) was available, and drafting Greg Jennings. But Thompson was not sold on Jackson's health or ability to stay healthy. Well that instinct proved right as Jackson was hampered by nagging injuries all year and now it comes out he tore his ACL in the AFC title game.
In a seemingly confirmation of what they plan to do in the draft The Green Bay Packers are said to have created a virtual chamber where a player enters it and is shown a number plays on a screen and they are asked to determine the scheme and packages and how they would direct the defense. The Packers are taking the lead in the use of this new technology that has been used by Oklahoma and Auburn
Packers FB William Henderson wants to return, but the ball is in the Packers court and they are deciding on whether or not they want him back. I was told they will give him word in the upcoming weeks.
Reports surfaced yesterday linking Houston and Denver to Packers RB Ahman Green, but other teams, most notably the Jets, Giants, Browns, Lions and Vikings also have interest. Green, who needs just 45 yards to break Jim Taylor's Packers all time rushing mark, wants to resign with the Packers, who are open to a bringing him back, at the right price....

[PackerPro42]

If the Texans sign Green and the Browns pass on AD, that could mean a huge fall down to the 16 spot for him. I would be ecstatic with AD or Lynch in the first round.

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http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=61&p=2&c=621234&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fpackers.scout.com%2f2%2f 621234.html

Sydney Speaks! Let's be careful with Jenkins by Sidney SC

PackerReport.com's Harry Sydney offers his thoughts on how the Green Bay Packers should handle defensive end Cullen Jenkins.

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Sporting News magazine, at its end of the NFL section, had a Hard Truth section AND about GB:

QB Brett favre is coming back for another year, but anybody who thinks the Packers are playoff-worthy right now needs a reality check. GM TT needs to make a bold move, the way former GM Ron Wolf did when he signed DE Reggie White, picked up WR Andre Rison, and traded for FS Eugene Robinson. There are ways to make GB dramatically better in the short term, and Thompson needs to look beyond the draft.

[MJZiggy]

And who are these White, Rison and Robinson players they think TT has available to him? I mean who is TT gonna call and say, "Hi, this is God and I want you to play in Green Bay?"

[The Shadow]

I am much more interested in the long haul over the short-term.

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Sporting News magazine, at its end of the NFL section, had a Hard Truth section AND about GB:

QB Brett favre is coming back for another year, but anybody who thinks the Packers are playoff-worthy right now needs a reality check. GM TT needs to make a bold move, the way former GM Ron Wolf did when he signed DE Reggie White, picked up WR Andre Rison, and traded for FS Eugene Robinson. There are ways to make GB dramatically better in the short term, and Thompson needs to look beyond the draft.

LATEST:

"The Pack could use another veteran wide receiver, but the pickings in free agency are very thin. That’s why GM Ted Thompson may be keeping an eye on what happens down on the Bayou. If the Saints release Joe Horn in the coming weeks, it would come as no surprise to see the former All-Pro wind up in Green Bay. Horn enjoyed his finest seasons under then-New Orleans offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy, and the two have maintained a strong relationship since parting ways a few years ago..... Adalius Thomas has replaced Randy Moss as the newest star rumored to be heading to Titletown. Don't count on it. The Pro Bowl defensive end/linebacker wants to stay in Baltimore. If not, his preference would be to either rejoin former defensive coordinator Mike Nolan in San Francisco or to find a team closer to his home in Alabama..... As was the case with Aaron Kampman and Mark Manuel a year ago, expect Thompson to re-sign one of his own and add a player within the first 48 to 72 hours of free agency..... And finally, we hear that acquiring a corner has moved to the top of Green Bay's list of priorities for the offseason. Whether that player comes from free agency or the draft remains to be seen."

[Fritz]

Rumors, baby. Lotsa rumors. I think I'll look up Ballhawk's girlfriend.

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Going for the best of the rest. Quality, not quantity might be draft focus BY McGINN JOnline.com

Having brought the Green Bay Packers back to respectability in two years on the job mainly by amassing draft picks, general manager Ted Thompson could very well be thinking about hitting a home run this time. The Packers enter the off-season with more players under contract than any team in the National Football League. They were the youngest team in the NFL a year ago, the residue of Thompson's drafting philosophy of trading down almost whenever possible. In 2005, Thompson turned seven selections into 11 by trading down three times. Last year, he turned seven choices into 12 by trading down four times and dealing Javon Walker. From the Packers' league-leading haul of 23 players, a total of 17 players remain on the roster, including six starters. As Mike Holmgren's top personnel man in Seattle from 2000-'04, Thompson traded down six times without even once trading up. The Packers desperately needed bodies in recent years because Mike Sherman traded up eight times in his last three drafts and then didn't use the picks wisely. Now, however, the Packers have ample manpower across the board with an abundance of developing players and 12 veterans due back from injured reserve. So it might be time for Thompson to emphasize quality over quantity when the draft arrives nine weeks from now. "That's a valid point," Thompson said. "We did add a lot of core players and people we think are going to be contributors. We haven't worked all that out yet, (but) there's maybe a little less need for more picks. But you'd always like to have a bunch of picks." Green Bay will have its own selection in all seven rounds plus a seventh-round choice from the New York Jets in the September 2005 trade for tackle Steve Morley. The club is unlikely to receive any compensatory picks for free-agent losses. Thompson and his scouts put in 12-hour days for 16 consecutive days before leaving for the scouting combine at the RCA Dome. The Packers talked about hundreds and hundreds of players, but in the back of everyone's mind was what would be available when it's their turn to exercise the No. 16 pick. "Some years it's really strong maybe 1 through 8 or 9 and then it peters down," Thompson said. "But this year it looks like it's going to be strong enough. I think we'll get a good player if we know what we're doing." Ron Wolf commissioned a study in the mid- to late 1990s, according to Thompson, that revealed players selected 1 to 17 turned out to be remarkably similar in longevity and production. To a lesser degree, picks 18 to 42 were about the same, too. But based on the last decade of selections, the Packers better keep their fingers crossed if they sit tight at 16. Five of the last 10 players taken in that position already have made the Pro Bowl, including defensive end Jevon Kearse, linebacker Julian Peterson, wide receiver Santana Moss, safety Troy Polamalu and guard Shawn Andrews. On the opposite end of the spectrum were wide receiver Reidel Anthony and running back William Green, who were busts; wide receiver Kevin Dyson, a keen disappointment; and the last two No. 16 picks, defensive tackle Travis Johnson and defensive back Jason Allen, who have done next to nothing. The last time the Packers had the 16th pick was 1994, when they wound up with guard Aaron Taylor. If Thompson had his druthers, he'd probably like to find at No. 16 a pass-receiving tight end; a franchise running back; a big, speedy wide receiver with return ability; a dynamic safety, a shut-down cornerback; or a dominating defensive lineman.

Whatever you do, say those who associate with Thompson, don't typecast the man. "Who's the best player?" he said. "If it's an offensive lineman, we'll take an offensive lineman. I've done it before. We draft based on long-term." The Packers come off a season in which they ranked 31st in red-zone efficiency, by far their poorest finish in more than a decade. The problem is that no tight end appears worthy of even the 25th to 30th pick, let alone the 16th, and the running back pool has almost no depth after Oklahoma's Adrian Peterson and California's Marshawn Lynch. Perhaps Thompson would entertain thoughts of trading up for Peterson, projected as a top-eight pick, or even Lynch, who figures to be taken in the middle of the round if some character issues are resolved. Green Bay still needs a running back even if Ahman Green is re-signed before the start Friday of the unrestricted signing period. "We're having good conversations with Ahman," Thompson said. "Whether anything gets done or not, I don't know. But that's free agency. It brings a little angst to your off-season." Thompson said there were "a couple of players" that he would like to select at No. 16. Several could be wide receivers, a position that ranks with safety and defensive end as the best in the draft. After Georgia Tech's Calvin Johnson, wide receivers such as Southern California's Dwayne Jarrett, Ohio State's tandem of Ted Ginn Jr. and Anthony Gonzalez, Tennessee's Robert Meachem and South Carolina's Sidney Rice all could warrant the 16th pick. Asked if he needed a player to fill one of the top three wide receiver berths, Thompson replied, "Not necessarily. But if it works out that way, that would be OK, too." The top three safeties appear to be Louisiana State's LaRon Landry, Florida's Reggie Nelson and Miami's Brandon Meriweather. It's unlikely more than one will be gone by No. 16, but all have first-round ability. "I think you can always use skill people, and I think all things would say we could use some more playmakers," Thompson said. "But it's way too early to start predicting that. I didn't even think about that fifth pick last year until we got through al the medicals and things like that. Some guys can fall off the world with a bad physical."

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Good mortal men & women, seeing the last waves by, cry out how bright

Their frail deeds might forever be glorious in a green bay across the Fox,

Rage, rally, and regroup against the fading of the green & gold light

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I hope some fans can follow-up with new polls and focused watches info as the months go by. Good luck!