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falco
03-01-2007, 04:19 PM
from packerchatters
On the Sidelines
March 1, 2007
Written by Joe Arrigo - PackerChatters Staff
The Packers and Raiders are still taking about a deal
that would send Randy Moss to the Packers for a
3rd...possibly a second round pick. Moss needs (and
has agreed to) re-work his contract (making it more
'cap friendly") in order for the deal to work. The
combine helped the two teams re-start talks about
sending the WR to the Packers. If the Packers do trade
for Moss, look for them to trade down a few spots to
add a second round pick in the draft, getting back
what they possibly will use to trade for Moss (It
looks like it could happen but as I have been pointing
out since I broke this story, it will come down to Al
Davis and what he wants for him, Moss and the Packers
appear to be on the same page, but if Davis wants a
1st rounder, it wont happen...I could see a 3 and a
player). There is no way they will trade Moss
for Aaron Rodgers straight up.
I was told at the stroke of midnight the Packers will
TRY to be the first team to schedule a visit from
Adalius Thomas, ands lock him into a deal while he is
in Green Bay.
The Packers will go hard after Justin Griffith at the
stroke of midnight tonight (3-2-07).
Dan Graham, the Patriots TE, is a strong consideration
for Green Bay come Friday.
Look for the Packers to try and nail down a deal with
Ahman Green by the start of FA.
Look for the Packers to look into adding Aaron Brooks
and Patrick Kearney.
The Packers REALLY like what they saw in LaRon Landry,
the LSU Safety. If he is there with their 1st round
pick...he could be the pick. He ran a 4.37, had a 37
and a half inch vert and tested REALLY WELL. Not to
mention when they interviewed him he impressed the
staff.
The Packers also liked WR's Robert Meachem, Buster
Davis (WR, LSU), Ted Ginn (during the interview
process), Dwayne Jarrett, S John Wendling, RB's Brian
Leonard, Chris Henry (RB, Arizona), TE Zach Miller and
DE Jarvis Moss.
I know for a fact the Packers came away impressed with
a RB that could be had in the 4th round. They used
their video simulator and asked him to break down the
play, where the protection should be and he nailed it.
They also asked him to draw up a play and again were
impressed. (Sorry cann't name the player)
I heard the Cardinals and Dolphins want to make a
deal...swapping 1's...so the Phins' can take Quinn and
the Cards to take the Penn St. OT.
If the Raiders trade Moss, they may try to add David
Carr (local kid out of Fresno ST.) to be the starter.
They would then add Calvin Johnson with the 1st
overall pick. Carr could be had for a 3...definitely a
2.
Jeff Garcia has interest in the Raiders, as do the
Raiders.
The Jets MAY be looking to trade starting MLB
Johnathan Vilma. The Redskins have interest in him, as
would a few other NFL teams.
The Browns have also looked into adding Carr.
The Minnesota Vikings is said to be going HARD after
Dante Stallworth and Daniel Graham.
The Broncos, Redskins, and Saints appear to be the
front runners for Drè Bly.
Trent Green to the Dolphins? There is interest, but if
they (the Dolphins) draft Quinn and still have BIG
Daunte Culpepper, where does Green fit in?
Ahman Green will draw interest from the Jets, Broncos,
Texans and Raiders.
The Raven and Jamal Lewis should be back together by
Sunday. By cutting him they saved $8 million dollars
and already were working on a new deal before they cut
him.
Drew Bennett, Ashlie Lelie, Brandon Stokely, Kevin
Curtis and Dauntè Stallworth will be the top WR's in
the FA group. Stallworth will be the 1st to go, the
others most likely will wait and see what he gets
paid.
Willis McGahee can be had for a 3rd round pick and the
Giants, Jets, Raiders, Broncos and Texans may be
interested. The Bills would like to draft Marshawn
Lynch with their 1st round pick.
Rumors are swirling that the Vikings will offer their
2nd round pick for Atlanta back up QB Matt Schaub.
gbpackfan
03-01-2007, 04:21 PM
Love the rumors. I know, most of them end up being BS. But still, I love 'em!!!
falco
03-01-2007, 04:22 PM
Love the rumors. I know, most of them end up being BS. But still, I love 'em!!!
I agree gbpackfan, whether or not they are based in substance, they sure are a good read.
falco
03-01-2007, 04:24 PM
Its interesting, if Landry somehow falls to the packers, and they can take Meachem in the second, and a RB they think can be a starter in the 4th, I would think that would be a good draft. Does anyone think Meachem could still be had by our pick in the 2nd though?
I would think AG would be need be resigned (or some other vet) just to ensure we don't go into the season with a 4th round pick as our only option at RB.
gbpackfan
03-01-2007, 04:28 PM
Meachem will be long in the 2nd. If the Packers really want him, they may have to take him at 16. If they want to take a gamble, they trade down a couple spots in the 1st and pray.
The Shadow
03-01-2007, 04:28 PM
I don't think Landry will be there at #16
No way is Landry there at 16, I also doubt Lynch will be there either.
i agree, landry won't be there at #16, and meachem will be long gone by our 2nd round pick. he might be gone by #16 also
woodbuck27
03-01-2007, 04:42 PM
[quote="falco"]from packerchatters
On the Sidelines
March 1, 2007
Written by Joe Arrigo - PackerChatters Staff
The Packers and Raiders are still taking about a deal
that would send Randy Moss to the Packers for a
3rd...possibly a second round pick.
Moss needs (and has agreed to) re-work his contract (making it more
'cap friendly") in order for the deal to work. The
combine helped the two teams re-start talks about
sending the WR to the Packers.
If the Packers do trade for Moss, look for them to trade down a few spots to
add a second round pick in the draft, getting back
what they possibly will use to trade for Moss (It
looks like it could happen but as I have been pointing
out since I broke this story, it will come down to Al
Davis and what he wants for him, Moss and the Packers
appear to be on the same page, but if Davis wants a
1st rounder, it wont happen...I could see a 3 and a
player).
There is no way they will trade Moss for Aaron Rodgers straight up.
I was told at the stroke of midnight the Packers will
TRY to be the first team to schedule a visit from
Adalius Thomas, ands lock him into a deal while he is
in Green Bay.
The Packers will go hard after Justin Griffith at the
stroke of midnight tonight (3-2-07).
Dan Graham, the Patriots TE, is a strong consideration
for Green Bay come Friday.
Look for the Packers to try and nail down a deal with
Ahman Green by the start of FA.
Look for the Packers to look into adding Aaron Brooks
and Patrick Kearney.
The Packers REALLY like what they saw in LaRon Landry,
the LSU Safety. If he is there with their 1st round
pick...he could be the pick. He ran a 4.37, had a 37
and a half inch vert and tested REALLY WELL. Not to
mention when they interviewed him he impressed the
staff.
The Packers also liked WR's Robert Meachem, Buster
Davis (WR, LSU), Ted Ginn (during the interview
process), Dwayne Jarrett, S John Wendling, RB's Brian
Leonard, Chris Henry (RB, Arizona), TE Zach Miller and
DE Jarvis Moss.
Ahman Green will draw interest from the Jets, Broncos,
Texans and Raiders.
Willis McGahee can be had for a 3rd round pick and the
Giants, Jets, Raiders, Broncos and Texans may be
interested. The Bills would like to draft Marshawn
Lynch with their 1st round pick.
OK. . . It's all too simple. :)
The Packers are targeting Randy Moss and Ahman Green. If Green hits the market then the Packers go after RB Willis McGahee for a third round draft pick and give up their 2nd Round pick (possibly more) in the deal to get Randy Moss.
They will recover that 2nd rd. pick by trading down their 16th pick hoping to land Safety LaRon Landry or WR Robert Meachem or Ted Ginn.
The Packers will sign 2 0f FA's. . . Adalius Thomas, Justin Griffith and Daniel Graham.
Adalius will NOT come to GB. He will end up in SF, but I really believe he will make all the visit, then go to SF, and say, here's the top offer, beat it...
so at 11:01 pm tonight (central time)...i'll be making one last check on espn.com before being asleep....see if we have any right away deals. Let the Offseason begin....WHOO..
HarveyWallbangers
03-01-2007, 05:27 PM
The guy regurgitates what he can find on FOX Sports Rumors, ESPN's Rumor Mill, PFT, and whatever else, and then talks about how he broke the story (well, when you post every rumor you've found, some are bound to stick). He says every year the Packers will trade down in the draft. Duh! Pretty tough since Thompson has traded down like 10 times and never traded up. I can't stand his rumors. If he just said here are the rumors I've read about on the Internet, I respect him a lot more.
He didn't get inside info on that enormous list, so you know the dude is just posting what he finds on the Internet as if he got it from his inside sources. Just too funny to me.
PackerTimer
03-01-2007, 05:29 PM
This offseason looks like it could be fairly exciting. TT seems to have a few players that he is very interested in bringing in. FA isn't exactly his game, but there are some guys out there that are worth going after. My guess is that he won't go after alot of guys but he will aggressively go after a few target players. If he misses he will just move on to the draft. As we all know he won't spend money just for the hell of it, a philosphy that I completely agree with.
CaliforniaCheez
03-01-2007, 05:30 PM
Has that Joe guy ever been right on anything?
Only when it hits the newswire somewhere and he drasticly changes his story.
Tell me when his crystal ball ever worked.
HarveyWallbangers
03-01-2007, 05:31 PM
Has that Joe guy ever been right on anything?
Only when it hits the newswire somewhere and he drasticly changes his story.
Tell me when his crystal ball ever worked.
Exactly, I wish somebody could post all of his rumors from last year at this time. I think Arrington would have just gotten cut by the Packers if he knew what he was talking about.
:D
i love how 50% of that forum just revolves around him and the other rumor mongers
i was looking there yesterday to see what they were saying about this. saw a few posts and threads asking what joe thought of this deal, wheres joe? why isn't joe talking about this?
thats another reason i left. a lot of folks on that board just give a shit about the people that say they have inside info, everyone else's posts don't matter
someone asks a question, me or someone else answers, original poster then just asks what joe thinks without looking at what you wrote.
seemed like a waste of time to post anything after awhile.
you wonder why they even need a message board, just do a PFT style rumor page and call it good
but on the plus side, it looks like we're going to be players for ever single decent free agent and draft pick out there :D
imscott72
03-01-2007, 06:21 PM
so at 11:01 pm tonight (central time)...i'll be making one last check on espn.com before being asleep....see if we have any right away deals. Let the Offseason begin....WHOO..
I've got a baseball draft at 10:45 pm, so I'll be up for awhile tonight anyhow. Hope to see a couple deals go down.
packiowa
03-01-2007, 07:47 PM
There are two interesting phenomena with regards to Arrigo. First, the PC posters live and die by his rumors. They absolutely love them and can't wait for more. And, on PR there are a group of people that will open every thread about Arrigo and spout off about how they hate his rumors (but they love to tell you how much they hate them).
Me, I read them and enjoy.
MadtownPacker
03-01-2007, 07:48 PM
they possibly will use to trade for Moss (It
looks like it could happen but as I have been pointing
out since I broke this story, it will come down to Al
Davis and what he wants for him, Moss and the Packers
appear to be on the same page, but if Davis wants a
1st rounder, it wont happen...I could see a 3 and a
player).This is a load of major crap. I posted the rumor here the night before PC even had their story up. I got it from a queens forum where they said it was on KFAN. EVen JSO had a thread about it the night before. so I dont know how this chump can even try to claim he said it first. Lame.
retailguy
03-01-2007, 07:59 PM
but on the plus side, it looks like we're going to be players for ever single decent free agnet and draft pick out there :D
and knowing the good "Ted" like we know Ted, this is LIKELY to happen? Give me a break.... LOL. 8)
RashanGary
03-01-2007, 08:03 PM
This place's community originated from the anarchy of JS. The core here can all handle their own and have a certain flava that I like. There are a few rules now, but the spirit is unlike any board around.
Realgm Bucks board is incredible too.
RashanGary
03-01-2007, 08:06 PM
My last post was a little OT. Joe Arrigo has a nice gig going there but I'm not one who's too concerned with rumors. I like talking football and developign new thoughts on football. This place has a great community for doing that.
It is good fodder though. I'm glad we post it here. We also get all the ESPN stuff and the JS stuff. That is one of the best advantages is that nothing is off limits.
BooHoo
03-01-2007, 08:20 PM
I enjoyed the read also. Even though much of it may be bogus.
CaliforniaCheez
03-01-2007, 08:48 PM
i love how 50% of that forum just revolves around him and the other rumor mongers
i was looking there yesterday to se what they were saying about this. saw a few posts and threads asking what joe thought of this deal, wheres joe? why isn't joe talking about this?
thats another reason i left. a lot of folks on that board just give a shit about the people that say they have inside info, everyone else's posts don't matter
someone asks a question, me or soemone else answers, original poster then just asks what joe things without looking at wat you wrote.
seemed like a waste of time to post anything after awhile.
you wonder why they even need a message board, just do a PFT style rumor page and call it good
but on the plus side, it looks like we're going to be players for ever single decent free agnet and draft pick out there :D
I hear you.
They have a groupthink mentality often like lemmings. A few posters are always right no matter what and you are a low life cretin "hater" if you disagree no matter how many facts and references you possess. Half the posts are "great post by _____ ". While politics should generally be avoided there is a lot of left wing politics there. They relish being "PC" Packer Chatters.
I did get invited to PackerRats from there when I caught and called a guy out on plagerizing a post from another forum and calling it his own. It originally was here and another place.
As to "Joe", the classic last year was for weeks the Packers trading up to get Reggie Bush.
A true insider would know that lots of discussions take place but the deals aren't made. An insider would say the Packers are asking what the price of a trade for _____ would be or a team is asking what it would take to trade ____. In the real world there are many proposals and counter proposals and eventually one side finding a cheaper/better option elsewhere.
How hard is it to say "Look for the Packers to try and nail down a deal with Ahman Green before free agency."
Some people enjoy reading fiction but you don't have to turn your brain off to do it. There is no reason to worship Joe or hang on his every word or spread it to every possible Packer discussion board. If you like go read it.
HarveyWallbangers
03-01-2007, 09:19 PM
I don't like his rumors, but I wasn't insinuating that somebody shouldn't post it here. I just will do my best not to allow the group worship of him on PackerChatters here.
:D
I'm going to call him out every time his stuff is posted here.
:twisted:
cheesner
03-01-2007, 10:16 PM
The 'rumors' from this poster can be categorized into 4 areas:
1. Things that are obvious - 'Packers will give PLAYERX a chance to start'
2. Those that can never be verified - 'Packers have a deal in place w/Moss and are hope they can work out the details'
3. And those that are very vague - 'The Packers are interested bringing in a top FA early'
4. Covered his bases - 'The Packers are interested in these 50 FAs . . .'
4. Completely made up BS
Every time he gets specific:
The Pack is trading up to get Bush
The Packers are going to hire Bates to be the HC
etc
he fails.
I think it is funny that last year he listed 40+ FAs the Packers were interested in - 2 that were no on the list, Manual and Pickett.
esoxx
03-01-2007, 10:20 PM
I think it is funny that he listed last year he listed 40+ FAs the Packers were interested in - 2 that were no on the list, Manual and Pickett.
How the hell could he miss on Manual. Shit, I thought that was pretty much common knowledge.
Partial
03-01-2007, 10:26 PM
My last post was a little OT. Joe Arrigo has a nice gig going there but I'm not one who's too concerned with rumors. I like talking football and developign new thoughts on football. This place has a great community for doing that.
It is good fodder though. I'm glad we post it here. We also get all the ESPN stuff and the JS stuff. That is one of the best advantages is that nothing is off limits.
PR is where its at.
Here is a rumor for ya....
Detroit trades it's #1 pick to Atlanta for it's #1 pick, a #2 pick and Matt Schaub....
If Matt Millen would be able to pull something like that off...WOW.
But I doubt it :lol:
Here is a rumor for ya....
Detroit trades it's #1 pick to Atlanta for it's #1 pick, a #2 pick and Matt Schaub....
If Matt Millen would be able to pull something like that off...WOW.
But I doubt it :lol:
that sounds like a trade one of those oakland raider fans would come up with
Here is a rumor for ya....
Detroit trades it's #1 pick to Atlanta for it's #1 pick, a #2 pick and Matt Schaub....
If Matt Millen would be able to pull something like that off...WOW.
But I doubt it :lol:
that sounds like a trade one of those oakland raider fans would come up with
It was a rumor I read on KFFL.
CaliforniaCheez
03-08-2007, 05:35 AM
from packerchatters
On the Sidelines
March 1, 2007
Written by Joe Arrigo - PackerChatters Staff
The Packers and Raiders are still taking about a deal
that would send Randy Moss to the Packers for a
3rd...possibly a second round pick. Moss needs (and
has agreed to) re-work his contract (making it more
'cap friendly") in order for the deal to work. The
combine helped the two teams re-start talks about
sending the WR to the Packers. If the Packers do trade
for Moss, look for them to trade down a few spots to
add a second round pick in the draft, getting back
what they possibly will use to trade for Moss (It
looks like it could happen but as I have been pointing
out since I broke this story, it will come down to Al
Davis and what he wants for him, Moss and the Packers
appear to be on the same page, but if Davis wants a
1st rounder, it wont happen...I could see a 3 and a
player). There is no way they will trade Moss
for Aaron Rodgers straight up.
I was told at the stroke of midnight the Packers will
TRY to be the first team to schedule a visit from
Adalius Thomas, ands lock him into a deal while he is
in Green Bay.
The Packers will go hard after Justin Griffith at the
stroke of midnight tonight (3-2-07).
Dan Graham, the Patriots TE, is a strong consideration
for Green Bay come Friday.
Look for the Packers to try and nail down a deal with
Ahman Green by the start of FA.
Look for the Packers to look into adding Aaron Brooks
and Patrick Kearney.
The Packers REALLY like what they saw in LaRon Landry,
the LSU Safety. If he is there with their 1st round
pick...he could be the pick. He ran a 4.37, had a 37
and a half inch vert and tested REALLY WELL. Not to
mention when they interviewed him he impressed the
staff.
The Packers also liked WR's Robert Meachem, Buster
Davis (WR, LSU), Ted Ginn (during the interview
process), Dwayne Jarrett, S John Wendling, RB's Brian
Leonard, Chris Henry (RB, Arizona), TE Zach Miller and
DE Jarvis Moss.
I know for a fact the Packers came away impressed with
a RB that could be had in the 4th round. They used
their video simulator and asked him to break down the
play, where the protection should be and he nailed it.
They also asked him to draw up a play and again were
impressed. (Sorry cann't name the player)
I heard the Cardinals and Dolphins want to make a
deal...swapping 1's...so the Phins' can take Quinn and
the Cards to take the Penn St. OT.
If the Raiders trade Moss, they may try to add David
Carr (local kid out of Fresno ST.) to be the starter.
They would then add Calvin Johnson with the 1st
overall pick. Carr could be had for a 3...definitely a
2.
Jeff Garcia has interest in the Raiders, as do the
Raiders.
The Jets MAY be looking to trade starting MLB
Johnathan Vilma. The Redskins have interest in him, as
would a few other NFL teams.
The Browns have also looked into adding Carr.
The Minnesota Vikings is said to be going HARD after
Dante Stallworth and Daniel Graham.
The Broncos, Redskins, and Saints appear to be the
front runners for Drè Bly.
Trent Green to the Dolphins? There is interest, but if
they (the Dolphins) draft Quinn and still have BIG
Daunte Culpepper, where does Green fit in?
Ahman Green will draw interest from the Jets, Broncos,
Texans and Raiders.
The Raven and Jamal Lewis should be back together by
Sunday. By cutting him they saved $8 million dollars
and already were working on a new deal before they cut
him.
Drew Bennett, Ashlie Lelie, Brandon Stokely, Kevin
Curtis and Dauntè Stallworth will be the top WR's in
the FA group. Stallworth will be the 1st to go, the
others most likely will wait and see what he gets
paid.
Willis McGahee can be had for a 3rd round pick and the
Giants, Jets, Raiders, Broncos and Texans may be
interested. The Bills would like to draft Marshawn
Lynch with their 1st round pick.
Rumors are swirling that the Vikings will offer their
2nd round pick for Atlanta back up QB Matt Schaub.
It's been a good week, Joe.
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