Good Moss read

[Brando19]

Source: SI.com
How many teams really want a 30-year-old malcontent wide receiver coming off his worst season? We're about to find out, as the Raiders field offers for Randy Moss. Let's handicap the odds for where Moss will end up:

New England: The Pats were apparently interested, but appear less likely to pursue Moss now that they traded for Wes Welker and reportedly made a hefty offer to free-agent Donte' Stallworth. If Stallworth turns them down, maybe Moss comes back into the picture. I'm not convinced New England needs Moss in the first place. The Pats' lack of big-time receivers hurt them last year, but they were not far off from winning the Super Bowl. A moderate improvement at that position is all they need.
Odds: 15/1

Green Bay: The Packers signed troubled Koren Robinson last year, so Moss won't scare them. Former disgruntled Raider Charles Woodson had eight interceptions for them last year, which might lead them to think they can resuscitate Moss' career.
Odds: 8/1

Tampa Bay: NFL.com reported that the Bucs contacted Oakland about Moss. This might imply Tampa Bay believes Georgia Tech wideout Calvin Johnson won't be available at No. 4 in April's draft. Tampa Bay desperately needs a vertical threat on offense, although I'm not sure Moss would be happy with Jeff Garcia at quarterback -- assuming he can beat out Chris Simms and maybe Jake Plummer.
Odds: 12/1

Jacksonville: Jacksonville was a rumored destination for Moss a couple of weeks ago, but not much seems to be developing. The Jags have invested in first-round picks WRs Reggie Williams and Matt Jones, but still lack a bona fide deep threat. The rumor may have started because the Jags hired Moss' former coach Mike Tice as an assistant.
Odds: 40/1

San Diego: San Diego's one weak spot on offense is receiver and it's interesting to imagine Moss facing single coverage as teams focus on LaDainian Tomlinson and Antonio Gates. Two reasons the Chargers haven't been mentioned much in the Moss chatter: 1) Moss has played poorly against San Diego over the last two seasons; 2) Raiders owner Al Davis wouldn't help a divisional rival.
Odds: 75/1

Oakland: Davis has a history of asking for too much and the Raiders likely still want to try to get something out of the investment they've already made in Moss.
Odds: 2/1

Where do you think Randy Moss will play next season?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Oakland.

Maybe New England if they can't sign Stallworth.

[KYPack]

I was thinking Jacksonville myself.

Old Meathead might want to make a splash down there and take on his former charge.

I don't think we will pay a steep price for the 3 reciever.

The Jags or back to Jokeland.

[Merlin]

I thought Woodson finished with 10 Ints? Oh well, I probably read that on a post somewhere.

[DannoMac21]

Moss will be a Packer.

[retailguy]

Moss will be a Packer.


The earth will crash into the moon on thursday.

[Charles Woodson]

Moss will be a Packer.


The earth will crash into the moon on thursday.

this thursday or next? need to know when to start packing

[Bretsky]

By Don Pierson
MSNBC contributor

Brett Favre gets berated from time to time for "throwing it up for grabs." Randy Moss has berated quarterbacks from time to time for not throwing it up for grabs.

It's a marriage made for Lambeau Field.

Just think about it. The Packers have, and the Raiders should.

When last seen in Lambeau, Moss was in the end zone. In fact he was pretending to rub his own end zone against a goal post, a gesture that did not endear him to the Packer faithful. But that was in the 2004 playoffs, so long ago that even the sins of a former enemy can be forgiven.

Moss and Favre have been on the same field plenty of times before when Moss played for Minnesota. Entire games revolve around these two players, or used to, which is the point. In the twilight of their careers, what if they were allowed to play on the same team?

Admit it. Like either player or not, wouldn't you just love to see Favre throwing it up and Moss chasing it down? Just once?

Having just turned 30, Moss might argue that he's nowhere near his twilight. Maybe he isn't, but his chances to win are running out. If he really were smart, he would agree to take a paycut and lobby to play with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots, who are also looking for a big-play receiver.

But he'd look better at the Green and Gold, giving Favre one last shot at glory.

The Raiders don't need Moss. Never did, truth be told. They have nobody on their roster capable of getting him the ball. They got rid of Kerry Collins, who often showed a nice deep arm. They got rid of Aaron Brooks, who was a disaster. They didn't like heir apparent Marques Tuiasosopo. That leaves Andrew Walter.

The Raiders simply can't afford to pay Moss nearly $10 million in 2007 and $11 million in 2008 to chase passes from Walter. The Packers and Patriots wouldn't want to pay him that, either, but Moss might be convinced to restructure in exchange for a chance at winning.

Moss should be notified that many NFL fans have totally lost track of him since he was traded to Oakland. It was like he was tossed into a deep black hole from which he has not emerged. In the interim, Moss is no longer considered the league's premier receiver, not is he even the best receiver named Moss. That would be Washington's Santana.

If Moss is serious about his desire to win, as he often stated in Minnesota, then taking a paycut should be a no-brainer. This is his legacy at stake. He never asked to go to Oakland, but he could ask out. If he wants to be remembered as one of the all-time great receivers, he needs to show he can help a team at least get to a Super Bowl.

As much of an off-field distraction as Moss was in Minnesota, that seems like ancient history now. Terrell Owens long ago replaced Moss as the league's problem receiver. Other malcontents and lawbreakers have made Moss's antics seem like fraternity pranks in comparison. In Cincinnati, Moss would be the model citizen.

Green Bay signed Koren Robinson last season knowing he already had one foot in a year-long suspension, so adding Moss should not pose a philosophical rationalization. Likewise, New England turned reputed bad guy Corey Dillon into a productive cog in a Super Bowl team, so Moss wouldn't be a new challenge for Bill Belichick.

While his transcendent talent has diminished, it's still hard to tell how good Moss could be both healthy and happy. It certainly would be worth a second-round draft choice to find out.

The Raiders will want a No. 1 pick, but the Patriots can point out they got Dillon for a No. 2. The Packers note they got no better than a No. 2 for disgruntled receiver Javon Walker last year.

The Raiders would be much better off with a second-round draft pick, even a third-rounder, this year than they will be with Moss. New coach Lane Kiffin, only a year older than Moss, has enough problems at receiver with Jerry Porter. In an effort to turn over a new leaf, Porter has decided to change uniform numbers. Moss should just change uniforms.

It is entirely possible that other teams will sense there is no way the Raiders can afford to keep Moss for one more season, financially or emotionally, and will wait for him to be released. But then teams like the Packers or Patriots, who could benefit most, throw themselves into the mix with a lot of other possible suitors who could distract Moss with money more than entice him with a ring.

Moss might need the older, more stable locker room of the Patriots to keep him on the straight and narrow, but why would he make trouble for Favre? Give him a break. At 30, even rebels change.

Moss never has been quite so fast or spectacular as he was as a rookie in 1998 when he averaged 19 yards a catch and scored 17 touchdowns in only 69 receptions, a ratio of one touchdown every four catches. He scored 17 touchdowns again in 2003, but that was on a career high 111 receptions.

Moss had vowed to make the rest of the league pay for what he perceived as a draft snub when he fell to 21st in the first round.

If he has become no more than an aging mercenary, content to cash his checks and make half-hearted attempts to play hard only "whenever I want to," then a gamble by the Packers or Patriots wouldn't be wise. Only Moss can provide the answer to that kind of skepticism.

But after two years of obscurity in Oakland, where he caught 102 passes and scored 11 touchdowns and won only six measly games, maybe, just maybe, Moss could bring himself to rejuvenate those feelings of revenge. Maybe he could take stock of himself and realize the only way he's going to be remembered in a definitively positive way is if he contributes to a winner.

Maybe he could vow to make the whole NFL pay again, as long is it isn't $10 million.

[mmmdk]

By Don Pierson
MSNBC contributor

Brett Favre gets berated from time to time for "throwing it up for grabs." Randy Moss has berated quarterbacks from time to time for not throwing it up for grabs.

It's a marriage made for Lambeau Field.

Just think about it. The Packers have, and the Raiders should.

When last seen in Lambeau, Moss was in the end zone. In fact he was pretending to rub his own end zone against a goal post, a gesture that did not endear him to the Packer faithful. But that was in the 2004 playoffs, so long ago that even the sins of a former enemy can be forgiven.

Moss and Favre have been on the same field plenty of times before when Moss played for Minnesota. Entire games revolve around these two players, or used to, which is the point. In the twilight of their careers, what if they were allowed to play on the same team?

Admit it. Like either player or not, wouldn't you just love to see Favre throwing it up and Moss chasing it down? Just once?

Having just turned 30, Moss might argue that he's nowhere near his twilight. Maybe he isn't, but his chances to win are running out. If he really were smart, he would agree to take a paycut and lobby to play with Tom Brady and the New England Patriots, who are also looking for a big-play receiver.

But he'd look better at the Green and Gold, giving Favre one last shot at glory.

The Raiders don't need Moss. Never did, truth be told. They have nobody on their roster capable of getting him the ball. They got rid of Kerry Collins, who often showed a nice deep arm. They got rid of Aaron Brooks, who was a disaster. They didn't like heir apparent Marques Tuiasosopo. That leaves Andrew Walter.

The Raiders simply can't afford to pay Moss nearly $10 million in 2007 and $11 million in 2008 to chase passes from Walter. The Packers and Patriots wouldn't want to pay him that, either, but Moss might be convinced to restructure in exchange for a chance at winning.

Moss should be notified that many NFL fans have totally lost track of him since he was traded to Oakland. It was like he was tossed into a deep black hole from which he has not emerged. In the interim, Moss is no longer considered the league's premier receiver, not is he even the best receiver named Moss. That would be Washington's Santana.

If Moss is serious about his desire to win, as he often stated in Minnesota, then taking a paycut should be a no-brainer. This is his legacy at stake. He never asked to go to Oakland, but he could ask out. If he wants to be remembered as one of the all-time great receivers, he needs to show he can help a team at least get to a Super Bowl.

As much of an off-field distraction as Moss was in Minnesota, that seems like ancient history now. Terrell Owens long ago replaced Moss as the league's problem receiver. Other malcontents and lawbreakers have made Moss's antics seem like fraternity pranks in comparison. In Cincinnati, Moss would be the model citizen.

Green Bay signed Koren Robinson last season knowing he already had one foot in a year-long suspension, so adding Moss should not pose a philosophical rationalization. Likewise, New England turned reputed bad guy Corey Dillon into a productive cog in a Super Bowl team, so Moss wouldn't be a new challenge for Bill Belichick.

While his transcendent talent has diminished, it's still hard to tell how good Moss could be both healthy and happy. It certainly would be worth a second-round draft choice to find out.

The Raiders will want a No. 1 pick, but the Patriots can point out they got Dillon for a No. 2. The Packers note they got no better than a No. 2 for disgruntled receiver Javon Walker last year.

The Raiders would be much better off with a second-round draft pick, even a third-rounder, this year than they will be with Moss. New coach Lane Kiffin, only a year older than Moss, has enough problems at receiver with Jerry Porter. In an effort to turn over a new leaf, Porter has decided to change uniform numbers. Moss should just change uniforms.

It is entirely possible that other teams will sense there is no way the Raiders can afford to keep Moss for one more season, financially or emotionally, and will wait for him to be released. But then teams like the Packers or Patriots, who could benefit most, throw themselves into the mix with a lot of other possible suitors who could distract Moss with money more than entice him with a ring.

Moss might need the older, more stable locker room of the Patriots to keep him on the straight and narrow, but why would he make trouble for Favre? Give him a break. At 30, even rebels change.

Moss never has been quite so fast or spectacular as he was as a rookie in 1998 when he averaged 19 yards a catch and scored 17 touchdowns in only 69 receptions, a ratio of one touchdown every four catches. He scored 17 touchdowns again in 2003, but that was on a career high 111 receptions.

Moss had vowed to make the rest of the league pay for what he perceived as a draft snub when he fell to 21st in the first round.

If he has become no more than an aging mercenary, content to cash his checks and make half-hearted attempts to play hard only "whenever I want to," then a gamble by the Packers or Patriots wouldn't be wise. Only Moss can provide the answer to that kind of skepticism.

But after two years of obscurity in Oakland, where he caught 102 passes and scored 11 touchdowns and won only six measly games, maybe, just maybe, Moss could bring himself to rejuvenate those feelings of revenge. Maybe he could take stock of himself and realize the only way he's going to be remembered in a definitively positive way is if he contributes to a winner.

Maybe he could vow to make the whole NFL pay again, as long is it isn't $10 million.

Great read - I WANT MOSS TOO. Well, it's no new wish of mine but nonetheless. Favre to Moss - I like it :mrgreen:

[woodbuck27]

All those who desire Randy Moss in Green Bay will have to be really really patient. :D

[MadtownPacker]

Thats right Woody, becuase everyone knows that Davis will ride this out all the way to the draft. A smart GM will just wait it out and see what the low price come out to.

I say a 3rd.

[BooHoo]

I am not sure whether bringing Moss to Green Bay is a good thing or not but it would be interesting to watch. Every play could potentially be a touchdown bomb to Moss. Brett wouldn't hesitate to throw long to him.

[woodbuck27]

Thats right Woody, becuase everyone knows that Davis will ride this out all the way to the draft. A smart GM will just wait it out and see what the low price come out to.

I say a 3rd.

Even if the rumor of a second or Aaron Rodgers holds any water.

There are more factors that might forbid us acquiring Moss besides the obvious ones of his age and present real value.I'm not one that believes the character issues or his past should eliminate him as a Packer.

I still believe that it comes down to what Ted Thompson wants to do on the Nick Barnett issue (and when).The repurcussions of the priority needs on OUR team (player wise) and still maintain a healthy CAP.

$23 million may seem like alot of CAP space. What's really there based on the cost of the Rookie class and maintenance of the CAP?

[Tony Oday]

Bah send AR out and throw in a 5th rounder that should be enough for good Ole Al. Get moss to take a front loaded contract ala Woodson and then sign Barnett. Sure we still need a FB, S, nickleback and a HB but man who needs a great running back when they can only put 7 in the box. and we can run on that.

Think of that you have Moss who will garner a saftey over the top, Driver one on one Vs the second best CB on the other team and then Jennings torching a nickleback.

Morency can run through the holes that will be created by the line against 7 in the box and if they put in 8 in the box Moss runs by and jumps for a Favre bomb.

Cmon makes sense gives us something to talk about and DAMN would it be fun to watch that!