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Bretsky
03-08-2007, 06:58 AM
By Dave Lubach
Sheboygan Press staff

Twenty seconds into the interview, the phone rings.

Andrew Brandt, the Green Bay Packers' vice president of player finance/general counsel, politely excuses himself to take the call.

It's no surprise Brandt is a popular man these days. The NFL is one week into its free-agent period, and deals are being announced frequently.

While the Packers haven't been very active, only re-signing defensive lineman Cullen Jenkins just before free agency began, this still remains a busy time.

Brandt, 46, took time between phone calls to address a gathering Wednesday for Lakeland College's sixth annual Charlotte and Walter Kohler Distinguished Business Lecture.

Brandt is in his eighth year in Green Bay and his fifth in his current role as the Packers' manager of the salary cap.

Before addressing the group at Lakeland, Brandt spent a few minutes discussing free agency and other topics involving the Packers.

Question: Are you surprised at the money that's been spent so far in free agency?

Brandt: I'm not surprised at it, because there continues to be a fascination with signing the first day or first few days of free agency, making a big splash. That's existed probably since the start of free agency years ago. In that way it hasn't changed. There continues to be a fascination with the hunt and kill of a big-name free agent. Is it surprising the amount of money spent? In some ways yes, but in other ways it's expected, because when certain players are pursued by several teams, that's the mother lode for the player.

Q: With Ahman Green signing with the Houston Texans, were you surprised at the money he received, and how does that change your situation at running back down the road with free agency and the draft?

A: That's better answered by (Packers general manager) Ted Thompson, but we were in constant communication with Ahman before and during once free agency started. We were well aware what he was doing to the point of decision-making, which happened on Sunday, in the middle of my son's 10th birthday party.

Q: With the Packers' success late last year, and the money available under the cap, do you stray from the approach of building through the draft and try to win now, or stay the course?

A: You don't get hung up on labels as to what philosophy you're in. You do what's best for the team. It sounds cliche, but it's all about the greater good. The good includes the best product for the present and future, it doesn't necessarily mean playing for the present or future. In my opinion you can try to do both at the same time. We've seen examples of clubs that have quote, unquote "gone for it" and at the end of the year they haven't quote, unquote "made it" and they have a mess to clean up. And that's certainly not a way we want to end up.

Q: One of the things the Packers have mostly done the last 15 years is stay competitive with the changing of rosters. Is the key to staying successful being fiscally responsible?

A: A lot is made of cap room, and how much cap room there is. It's really a fluid figure. There have been points in my career where we've had very little cap room, but made very big signings at the same time. When we signed (defensive end) Joe Johnson, who was one of our biggest free agent signings, we were very much against the cap. It's really business decisions more than cap room. It's my responsibility to make the cap work and it was working then and now and hopefully it always works.

Q: Can fans expect that $20 million or so available under the cap to be used?

A: I think what people don't realize is that the cap room doesn't go away after the first couple weeks of March. Your cap room has to last from March 1 to December 31. Last year we used every penny of it and every year I've been here we've used every penny of it. We've never left a dime of cap room on the table, and we don't intend to do it again. That won't be an issue.

Q: Is it tough to sit on your wallet when everyone's throwing money around?

A: You have to trust your plan. And again, last year at this time, we were doing what you call "sitting on your wallet," and two days before the draft we made a huge signing with Charles Woodson at the end of April, and we're in the first week of March. So there's a lot of time left.

Q: Fans hear speculation about a Randy Moss trade and other rumors. When you hear things like that, what goes through your mind? When you try to make a trade like that, what things do you have to discuss?

A: I can't talk about any specific trades or players, but obviously when we get involved with a potential player or a potential transaction or acquisition, with Ted Thompson, we go over the plan. I provide my insight about the cap and the future. But the key in any organization is getting everyone on the same page — administration, coaching, personnel, cap management, etc.

Q: When you have a player like William Henderson get released, who has been with the franchise so long and has given so much, how hard is it to separate friendship and business?

A: It's tough. These are friends. They understand we have a job to do, but there's a personal aspect to it too. You have to keep it separate, especially in my position when you're dealing with negotiations. You get to know these players a long, long time. William was one of the few players that was here when I got here eight years ago. One of the first things I did when I got here was William's contract.

Sparkey
03-08-2007, 07:44 AM
I like the fact that TT doesn't go crazy giving marginal players superstar signing bonuses.


We need to sign our draftee's, also extend any young players like Barnett and leave room to be able to sign replacements, if injuries were to set in.

The PACK will be fine.

MJZiggy
03-08-2007, 07:47 AM
B, Somehow that article and your sig just don't seem to mesh.

Fritz
03-08-2007, 08:31 AM
Brandt makes a couple of points worth noting: one, the salary cap has to last all year. So if an Andre Rison or Grady Jackson kind of player gets cut in September, you ought to have a chance to sign him Two, that the Packers DO use up ALL of their cap space, every year. So can we put to rest that rumor that TT just lets the money sit and doesn't use it?

Zool
03-08-2007, 08:35 AM
I believe there was ~900k left at the end of last season. I could be wrong, but I remember hearing some grumblings that Thompson hadnt spent every last drop of the teams allotted salary last season.

Fritz
03-08-2007, 08:37 AM
So is Brandt just flat-out lying, then? That'd be weird, to try to do that. And if anyone would know if it all got spent, wouldn't Brandt be the guy?

Zool
03-08-2007, 08:41 AM
I missed that one on the first skim. They probably added some impossible incentives to a contract so that it could be carried to this season.

prsnfoto
03-08-2007, 08:58 AM
I missed that one on the first skim. They probably added some impossible incentives to a contract so that it could be carried to this season.

Bingo, he isn;t per say lying, just misleading they use the cap every year I believe Herron has some immpossible incentives added to use up last years cap, good guy to pick. :P If the interviewer had asked do you use the cap on on field talent to help in that season and Brandt answered the same he would be a liar.

gureski
03-08-2007, 10:36 AM
It was confirmed in a conversation last year that teams can and do use extra cap space to pay off parts of unpaid signing bonus money (dead cap space) left from players that were cut.

When you cut a player after June 1 you only have to count half the remaining amount of pro-rated signing bonus money left from that contract against that years cap. The rest of the bonus comes due the following year. The rule doesn't say you MUST count half that current year, it just says you're allowed to go half. You could, if you wanted to, count more then half that bonus against that years cap there-by lessening the load against the following years cap hit. You could count all the remaining money against that years cap, if you wanted so that you didn't have anything applied to the following year.

So, who is to say the team didn't count more dead signing bonus money against last years cap so that this years available cap space would be higher. In reality, it's just a number. No money is leaving the bank account. It's all accounting. If the team had $900,000 cap room left before the end of last year and needed to count (hypothetically) $1.6 million in dead money against the following years cap they certainly could've applied the extra $900,000 in cap room against the $1.6 million in dead money that needed to be paid so that the end result would be the team only having to have $500,000 in dead money the following year.

It's simple! :shock:

RashanGary
03-08-2007, 11:17 AM
Thanks for that interesting tidbit guruski. I wasn't aware that they could apply dead space in any amount, not to exceed what is currently owned, to the cap.

That is a very flexible and usefull loop hole that will all but gaurantee that we always maximize our capspace over the long haul.