Washington Post: Packers 2nd worst in the league in drafting

[Anti-Polar Bear]

According to a Washington Post study, the Packers' picks in the top 3 rds in the past 10 years only averaged 11.44 starts per season, second worst in the league behind only the woeful Lions.

Least Successful Drafts Overall
Teams Picks avg. games played per season
Lions 11.25
Packers 11.44
Bears 11.75
Browns 11.83
Panthers 11.86

If Thompson had made a similar study, he'd realize that he can't depend so much on rookies, and wake up and use the Washington apporch in free agentcy.

[Sparkey]

According to a Washington Post study, the Packers' picks in the top 3 rds in the past 10 years only averaged 11.44 starts per season, second worst in the league behind only the woeful Lions.

Least Successful Drafts Overall
Teams Picks avg. games played per season
Lions 11.25
Packers 11.44
Bears 11.75
Browns 11.83
Panthers 11.86

If Thompson had made a similar study, he'd realize that he can't depend so much on rookies, and wake up and use the Washington apporch in free agentcy.

What has Washington done in the last 10 years ?

[oregonpackfan]

Who was the General Manager for the Packers much of the last 10 years who made those poor draft choices? None other than Mike Sherman!

I am confident that Thompson can and will do a much better job in his draft selections.

Oregonpackfan

[Rastak]

According to a Washington Post study, the Packers' picks in the top 3 rds in the past 10 years only averaged 11.44 starts per season, second worst in the league behind only the woeful Lions.

Least Successful Drafts Overall
Teams Picks avg. games played per season
Lions 11.25
Packers 11.44
Bears 11.75
Browns 11.83
Panthers 11.86

If Thompson had made a similar study, he'd realize that he can't depend so much on rookies, and wake up and use the Washington apporch in free agentcy.


Do you have a link?

[Tarlam!]

Tank, I like you, but your constant moaning about TT is getting tiresome. Like OPF just stated, your hero was responsible for putting us into the second worst drafting spot.

I am surprised ou would even make this post. This leaves Sherm very vulnerable!

[billy_oliver880]

Do you have a link?

You are kidding right? I wanna see this link too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This article wouldn't have been a reflection on Thompson. Rather, Mike Sherman. It's not surprising. The last few years of Wolf's era, we had some good, veteran teams that we didn't need that much from the draft. Then, Sherman took over an over the hill team and didn't shitty as GM. It would be interesting to see the last 5-6 years, and see what the Sherman affect had on the team.

This article is non-sense anyways. You don't judge rookies or a draft class after one year, and that's what this does. I guess Thompson beat the hell out of this--since he got 16 starts out of Collins, plus many starts by the likes of Whitticker, Gado, Poppinga, and Manning.

[Rastak]

This article wouldn't have been a reflection on Thompson. Rather, Mike Sherman. It's not surprising. The last few years of Wolf's era, we had some good, veteran teams that we didn't need that much from the draft. Then, Sherman took over an over the hill team and didn't shitty as GM. It would be interesting to see the last 5-6 years, and see what the Sherman affect had on the team.

This article is non-sense anyways. You don't judge rookies or a draft class after one year, and that's what this does. I guess Thompson beat the hell out of this--since he got 16 starts out of Collins, plus many starts by the likes of Whitticker, Gado, Poppinga, and Manning.

Gado was a free agent pickup wasn't he? Off someones practice squad, right?

[Patler]

I really do not get the point, if there is one, for this topic. Rather than looking at rounds 1-3, why not the entire draft?

In a 16 game schedule, there are 176 "offensive starts" and 176 "defensive starts" (11 starters x 16 games). For the Packers in 2005:

119 of 176 "offensive starts" were made by Packer draft choices.
89 of 176 "defensive starts" were made by Packer draft choices.

When you consider that Favre and Harris were obtained directly for draft choices, you could just as well consider them the equivalent of draft picks too.

[Partial]

ok now I know for sure that is Patler :cool:

[Patler]

If you go back to 2004 the nominal starters, absent injury, were:

On offense:
Packer draft picks- Clifton, Wahle, Flanagan, Rivera, Tauscher, Franks, Driver, Walker, Henderson.
Not draft picks - Green, Favre.

On Defense:
Draft Picks - KGB, Hunt, Kampman, Barnett, Diggs, Carroll, Sharper.
Not draft picks - Jackson, Navies, Harris, Roman.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I missed the first 3 rounds part of this. That makes it even more non-sensical.

[packrulz]

But the Packers went to the Super Bowl twice in the last 10 years, in '97 & 98, & won the 1st one.

[hurleyfan]

Tank, I like you, but your constant moaning about TT is getting tiresome. Like OPF just stated, your hero was responsible for putting us into the second worst drafting spot.

I am surprised ou would even make this post. This leaves Sherm very vulnerable!Typical Tank drivel... he just wanted to get in the shot about TT not signing a bunch of F/A's

[Tarlam!]

ok now I know for sure that is Patler :cool: :shock: Really? :shock: :shock: :shock:

[RashanGary]

Wolf was pretty bad with early picks. Sherman hit his #1's but failed miserably after that. I believe this stat is accurate.

[hurleyfan]

Hey Nick, other than JWalk and Barnett, can you refresh my memory on his other # 1's.. I remember Ahmad Carrol, but no one else jumps to mind.

[RashanGary]

Barnett
Carroll
Walker

Those are Shermans #1's. I think those are damn good picks for where he was picking.

[hurleyfan]

I like the Walker & Barnett picks.. Carrol was a huge reach, and his imaturity / cockiness is still a problem IMO.

[RashanGary]

Newsome
Michels
Verba
Holliday
Edwards
Franks
Reynolds


4 out of 7 were pretty good players. Wolf didn't get any stars from his #1's

[Patler]

Newsome
Michels
Verba
Holliday
Edwards
Franks
Reynolds

4 out of 7 were pretty good players. Wolf didn't get any stars from his #1's

No not stars, but in order they were picks #32, 27, 30, 19, 25, 14 and 10 (A big "oops" on that last one!)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

According to a Washington Post study, the Packers' picks in the top 3 rds in the past 10 years only averaged 11.44 starts per season, second worst in the league behind only the woeful Lions.

Least Successful Drafts Overall
Teams Picks avg. games played per season
Lions 11.25
Packers 11.44
Bears 11.75
Browns 11.83
Panthers 11.86

If Thompson had made a similar study, he'd realize that he can't depend so much on rookies, and wake up and use the Washington apporch in free agentcy.


Do you have a link?

Dont know if its online (you can try to find it at Washingtonpost.com), but I got my source from Monday's paper.

Here's what they got say:

The Washington Post gathered data from the first three rounds of the NFL draft over the past 10 years and measured each pick's average games played per season. This number is not necessary a measure of NFL sucess--a player might have played 15 games per season, albeit unproductively for a losing team. But average games played per season can comparatively measure draft sucess and failure, and after analyzing the data, many interesting numbers emerge.

some interesting data, along with Green Bay being the 2nd "least sucessful drafts overall:

Most sucessful drafts overall
Colts 13.47 (pick's avg. games played per season)
Bills 13.08
Jets 12.97
Texans 12.85
Eagles 12.85

4.24 Avg games played per season by the 13 qbs drafted in the third round, the lowest of any position in any of the first three rounds. The qbs drafted in the 1st rd (24 of them) have averaged 10.22 and the ones drafted in the 2nd (7) average 8.91.

14.06 avg gamnes played by safeties drafted in the second round (20 of them) the highest avearge of any position with more than three players drafted.

Most successful draft position:
Pick Avg games played per season
19 14.75
35 14.75
13 14.51
17 14.49
36 14.49

Im getting sick of typing so check out washingtonpost.com to see if you can find the whole article. Great newspaper. Better than the conservative Times.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The bottom line is, you can't depend wholly on the draft. You gotta, as Brett Favre said, "make a statment in free agency" also.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Wolf was pretty bad with early picks. Sherman hit his #1's but failed miserably after that. I believe this stat is accurate.

WTF? If Sherman failed miserably, then Thompson failed motherfucking merserably.

11 picks and 1 quality starter; for a guy who loves giving birth to rookies, that is motherfucking miserable.