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motife
03-12-2007, 06:06 PM
No deals, no problem
Titans, Packers wisely keeping cool in free agency
Posted: Monday March 12, 2007 12:28AM; Updated: Monday March 12, 2007 5:17PM

New Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt has resisted paying big bucks to free agents.
AP
Tennessee general manager Mike Reinfeldt sits in Nashville with $26.5 million in cap room not burning a hole in his pocket. Green Bay GM Ted Thompson does the same with $21.8 million to spend in northeast Wisconsin. And through the mayhem of the first 10 days of free agency, the two guys who run the football side of those teams -- coincidentally, former roommates with the Houston Oilers -- are gritting their teeth, watching money get spent foolishly in some cases, and waiting for the market to simmer down.

Bully for them. I mean that, wholeheartedly. NFL teams entered the free agency market on March 2 with an average of $14.95 million per club to spend. As of Sunday evening, team spending had reduced that number to $10.80 million per franchise. Tennessee and Green Bay have the second- and fourth-most cap money left, but what makes them different is that, unlike their peers in the high-cap-money neighborhood, they haven't signed a sole free agent from another team since the market's been open.

The other day, the front-office mentor of both Reinfeldt and Thompson, former Packers GM Ron Wolf, was in Green Bay for the team's annual Fan Fest. Wolf, sitting in Thompson's office discussing the state of the game, playfully chided him for his inaction.

"I can't get him to do a deal!'' Wolf told me. "I just want him to do something.''

Then Wolf made it plain he wasn't serious. "This market's amazing," he said. "Al Johnson, what did he play last year? Seven plays? And he gets $7 million ... No, he didn't just play seven plays, but he didn't start. And the Vikings pay $7 million to [former backup Giants tight end Visanthe] Shiancoe? Amazing.''

He's right about the $7 million in 2007 money for Johnson, beaten out for the Dallas center job by Andre Gurode last year. But he understated the money for Shiancoe, who caught 35 balls (for a 7.2-yard average) in four years as Jeremy Shockey's backup. Minnesota will pay him, in bonus and salary, $8.2 million this year. Even in a spending spree like the one the NFL has seen in the last week and change, the Shiancoe deal has stunned people around the league. Stunned is putting it nicely. The Vikings are being belittled for spending so much on a guy who, even when he got the chance with Shockey hurt so much, never proved himself a remotely reliable receiver.

This is why, in the face of mounting pressure to do something -- anything -- I applaud guys like Reinfeldt and Thompson. New GM Jerry Reese of the Giants, too. Reese is getting killed on New York talk radio; and while I question why he acquired one burly back (220-pound Reuben Droughns) to backstop another (254-pound Brandon Jacobs), I appreciate how he's giving the market time to settle down after a key pre-market signing in center Shaun O'Hara.


There are still good players out there -- Indy cornerback Nick Harper, St. Louis wideout Kevin Curtis, Indy linebacker Cato June, Cincinnati wideout Kelley Washington, Seattle safety Ken Hamlin -- but none worth paying the kind of money we've seen paid so far. In both Tennessee and Green Bay, the teams are under fan pressure to get better soon. The Packers won their final four games, finished 8-8, and got Brett Favre back for one more season (presumably), and the fans' expectations, naturally, are: We've got to win now. Tennessee showed major-league spunk the second half of the season with Vince Young leading the charge, also finishing 8-8.

The worst thing for Green Bay happened before free agency, when the Chiefs re-signed a tight end the Packers badly needed, Tony Gonzalez. Then the Packers passed on their own running back, Ahman Green, after the Texans bid up his price tag to $8 million in bonus and salary in '07 -- this for a guy who'd missed 13 games due to injury the past two years.

"We haven't been sitting on our hands,'' said Thompson, with Wolf sitting in his office, "but history has told us that many of the guys who sign in free agency end up being bad deals for the teams who sign them. It is nerve-wracking, but you're almost better sitting out the first week until the prices come down to earth. Some teams, so far, are lowering the standards -- maybe not lowering the standards, but paying regular players like very good players, and that's something we're not willing to do. It's a little disconcerting, to be honest, to watch players you're interested in sign elsewhere. But I learned to be patient from the guy sitting with me right now. So I can sleep at night.''

As for Reinfeldt, there were two bad signs -- and two bad signings -- for the Titans on Sunday evening. The Patriots signed the receiver Tennessee really wanted, Donte' Stallworth. The Titans offered him more guaranteed money and more average per year than New England did, but the Patriots got him because they're a better team with a better quarterback right now. And Philadelphia signed the restricted Dallas free-agent linebacker Tennessee wanted, Ryan Fowler.

On one of the Titans' fan message boards on Sunday night, the Tennessee braintrust was being chided for its inactivity. "Kerry Freakin' Collins?'' one poster wrote, questioning whether the best they could do was signing the veteran quarterback back to a risk-free, one-year deal.

Now, Tennessee turns to Harper, a much-needed cornerback because of the Pacman Jones problems, and backup Detroit corner Jamar Fletcher. Not exactly the mother lode, though Harper would be an excellent addition because it would also subtract the best cornerback from the best team in the division.

"I'd say the free-agent class was average, at best,'' Reinfeldt said Saturday. "And we're not going to do crazy things just to react to what other teams are doing. What I'm doing is just taking a deep breath and trying to get through it. We also want to be careful because I'm not sure what signing some of these guys to the contract they're getting is going to do to your locker room. And you're kidding yourself if you think some of these signings aren't going to impact some guys you already have under contract.''

Think of it this way: We always chide the Redskins for being so aggressive in free agency, then going out and not doing well during the season. What has winning the offseason done for Washington the last three years? Gotten them a 22-28 record when the ball's kicked off, that's what. So don't go and automatically think the 49ers are so much better because they've signed Nate Clements and Michael Lewis to contracts totaling $110 million. And don't think the Bills have solved all their offensive line woes by throwing $74 million at Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker. If history is a good judge, winning free agency might just be the same as losing.

RashanGary
03-12-2007, 07:27 PM
Pretty much the same artical for the 20th time by another very highly respected sports writer.

It's getting to be common sense that FA is a bad way to build but some GM's, Owners and franchises are desperate and they will always make mistakes. Patients is very important. It's nice to have a good GM for a change.

Rastak
03-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Pretty much the same artical for the 20th time by another very highly respected sports writer.

It's getting to be common sense that FA is a bad way to build but some GM's, Owners and franchises are desperate and they will always make mistakes. Patients is very important. It's nice to have a good GM for a change.


FA is just one tool, I agree if a team thinks that's the only way to go and ignores all other factors they are doomed. Would you say the Pats totally screwed it up this year, signing the guys they did and are headed for a fall as the result?

RashanGary
03-12-2007, 07:48 PM
The Pats now have a 2 or 3 year window. If they weren't so good or so close then it would be a huge mistake. They are a SB team and had alot of room so it might pay off well for them.

There comes a point where it mgiht put you over the top. Seattle thought they were there last year adn look how that turned out. It's NE's turn. An injury or two and the season is over and then they are suffering the long term concequence with none of the short term gain. They are close enough where the short term gain has a good chance of beinga SB win. We are not there. Neither are you. Your team is doomed IMO.

prsnfoto
03-12-2007, 07:53 PM
Pretty much the same artical for the 20th time by another very highly respected sports writer.

It's getting to be common sense that FA is a bad way to build but some GM's, Owners and franchises are desperate and they will always make mistakes. Patients is very important. It's nice to have a good GM for a change.


FA is just one tool, I agree if a team thinks that's the only way to go and ignores all other factors they are doomed. Would you say the Pats totally screwed it up this year, signing the guys they did and are headed for a fall as the result?

Other than A. Thomas I would say they filled some holes but way overpaid Welker can return kicks but 3 million a year and two draft picks is worse than the Vikings TE, and Stallworth is at best an average #2 and he gets 5 million, wonder what DD thiks of his deal now. Now they have Washington obviously they are not keeping all these WR. I wouldn't say they are heading for afall but they wasted a bunch of money on average Joe's IMO.

Rastak
03-12-2007, 07:56 PM
The Pats now have a 2 or 3 year window. If they weren't so good or so close then it would be a huge mistake. They are a SB team and had alot of room so it might pay off well for them.

There comes a point where it mgiht put you over the top. Seattle thought they were there last year adn look how that turned out. It's NE's turn. An injury or two and the season is over and then they are suffering the long term concequence with none of the short term gain. They are close enough where the short term gain has a good chance of beinga SB win. We are not there. Neither are you. Your team is doomed IMO.



I'd have to agree...it's a really hard thing to judge though to be honest. When to go for it and when to sit it out.

RashanGary
03-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Take off that mask and come over to the other side Ras...I think this team is on the right track.

Rastak
03-12-2007, 09:01 PM
Take off that mask and come over to the other side Ras...I think this team is on the right track.Well if it is, enjoy the ride....I can't shake off 36 years of pulling for a team, I would think you'd understand if the shoe were on the other foot.

Partial
03-12-2007, 09:29 PM
Pretty much the same artical for the 20th time by another very highly respected sports writer.

It's getting to be common sense that FA is a bad way to build but some GM's, Owners and franchises are desperate and they will always make mistakes. Patients is very important. It's nice to have a good GM for a change.

It's a quick way to "put the cherry on top". It's a bad way to fill up a bowl.

Partial
03-12-2007, 09:31 PM
The Pats now have a 2 or 3 year window. If they weren't so good or so close then it would be a huge mistake. They are a SB team and had alot of room so it might pay off well for them.

There comes a point where it mgiht put you over the top. Seattle thought they were there last year adn look how that turned out. It's NE's turn. An injury or two and the season is over and then they are suffering the long term concequence with none of the short term gain. They are close enough where the short term gain has a good chance of beinga SB win. We are not there. Neither are you. Your team is doomed IMO.

I dunno, Adalius Thomas signed a contract that is low now for his calibur and will be a bargin in two-three years. Also, Stallworth signed for inexpensive amount due to drug risk.

RashanGary
03-12-2007, 09:36 PM
It's a quick way to "put the cherry on top". It's a bad way to fill up a bowl.

Nice analogy.

ahaha
03-12-2007, 09:37 PM
Why do people want to change Rastak? Wouldn't you lose a lot of respect for him if he changed sides? Sure, he'd be accepted and lauded at first, but there would always be a distrust from us life-long fans. There would be plenty of comments like, "What do you know, you used to be a Viking fan. Shut your piehole." The shame would eventually ruin him. Frankly, the idea of converting him to Packerness makes me sick.

RashanGary
03-12-2007, 09:39 PM
Yeah..He's got a team to root for over there. I acctually sort of hope they do well for the fans but then I remember that I can't stand them.

Green Bud Packer
03-12-2007, 09:44 PM
It's a quick way to "put the cherry on top". It's a bad way to fill up a bowl. Sweet analogy. the pack will be a more experienced team in 07. I believe thompson will hit it on a couple of players either thru f.a. or the draft and the pack will be a playoff contender in 07. go pack.

LL2
03-12-2007, 10:00 PM
It's a quick way to "put the cherry on top". It's a bad way to fill up a bowl. Sweet analogy. the pack will be a more experienced team in 07. I believe thompson will hit it on a couple of players either thru f.a. or the draft and the pack will be a playoff contender in 07. go pack.

I hope so Toker, I sure hope so.

I also agree with what King wrote, but there also seems to be a new reality in the NFL now. Baseball and Basketball have been giving out obscene contract for a long time now. It was eventually going to happen in the NFL.

swede
03-12-2007, 10:07 PM
If by playoff contender you mean able to sneak in at 9-7, maybe.

I still think "08 will be the year for dramatic improvements.

(Remember in '96 when endless years of unfounded optimism and fervent hoping began to give way to the rock solid belief that this truly and really was the year because NOBODY WAS BETTER THAN US! I can't wait to feel that again, but it won't be next year.)

I've made my peace with the quiet FA period.

the_idle_threat
03-12-2007, 10:09 PM
(Remember in '96 when endless years of unfounded optimism and fervent hoping began to give way to the rock solid belief that this truly and really was the year because NOBODY WAS BETTER THAN US! I can't wait to feel that again, but it won't be next year.)



Bears fans have that feeling every year, reality be damned! :lol:

mmmdk
03-13-2007, 03:07 AM
Take off that mask and come over to the other side Ras...I think this team is on the right track.Well if it is, enjoy the ride....I can't shake off 36 years of pulling for a team, I would think you'd understand if the shoe were on the other foot.

I understand Rastak - ever so much. The Green Bay Packers is my heart and soul but I am the Euro Rat and therefore I follow soccer too. My local soccer team, called AGF (Aarhus Gymnastics), have been in shambles for a decade and no national championship since 1986 but I can't shake them even though I've tried and tried. It's been the ownership in AGF that has killed many fans but a new group is trying to pick up the pieces and might actually succeed.

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