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Bretsky
04-04-2007, 07:08 AM
We've got one for the nots; figured I'd list one for the wants.

Feel free to post options you'd be happy with in round one or later rounds. I'll start with a mini list


Reggie Nelson
Marshawn Lynch
Robert Meacham
Ted Ginn

Sydney Rice
Eric Weddle
Antonio Pittman
Michael Griffin

Partial
04-04-2007, 07:53 AM
Calvin Johnson :o

retailguy
04-04-2007, 08:11 AM
won't this thread have all the same players as the "don't" draft thread? Just by different posters? :lol:

MJZiggy
04-04-2007, 08:12 AM
Isn't that half the fun??

CaliforniaCheez
04-04-2007, 08:17 AM
I prefer the Packers generally go with the best player available.

1) Levi Brown OT Penn State
2) Kenny Irons RB Auburn
3) Michael Bush RB/FB Louisville (falls due to injury)
4) Tim Crowder DE Texas
5) Matt Spaeth TE Minnesota (falls due to injury)
6) Tony Franklin CB Virginia
7a) Enoka Lucas C/OG Oregon
7b) Steve Breaston WR Michigan
7c) Dallas Sartz OLB USC

In this scenario the 6th round pick, 7b, and 7c have considerable obstacles to making the team.

Partial
04-04-2007, 08:38 AM
I like that draft quite a bit, CC. Not too much depth this year so you won't see the big names like last year or next year in the 4th round and lower.

ND72
04-04-2007, 09:05 AM
I like that draft quite a bit, CC. Not too much depth this year so you won't see the big names like last year or next year in the 4th round and lower.

This years draft is considered "deeper" by every "expert" and magazine I've seen so far.

Guys I'd like to see in green and gold...I wrote some comments on a few of the guys.


Ted Ginn - Some think he's overrated, I think he's underrated. Speed, and fills 3 positions instantly.
Marshawn Lynch - I think could be the best running back in the draft.
Greg Olsen
Patrick Willis
Antonio Pittman
Michael Bush
Darrelle Revis
Aaron Ross
Joe Stanley - EXTREMELY great athlete.
Michael Griffin
Jon Beason
Ben Patrick - Small School...if he went to a big school, he'd be a 1st or 2nd round pick.
Chris Henry - BIG bruising back with some good speed.
Brian Leonard - I like him...who can't like him. Team guy, athletic. FB or HB, could fill any role, even as a TE.
Cory Anderson
Dallas Sartz
Jonathan Wade
Tanard Jackson - Might be the best S/CB combo player in draft
Brandon Meriweather - Some say is the 2nd best safety in draft.
John Wendling - Good athlete
Eric Weddle - Can play S & CB
Jeremy Clark - VERY high on this guy if we look for DT, could be taken in 5th or later.
Keith Jackson - I really like him, and not just because of who his dad is. 5-7 round pick.
Amobi Okoye (He won't be there, but I can dream)
Victor Abiamiri - Could be a Mark Anderson type in the NFL right away. Doesn't have to start, but could replace KGB, and be a 3rd down specialist. Not small either, 6'5" 270.
Doug Free
Scott Chandler
Matt Spaeth - Productive TE, but not seen as much cause of going to Minnesota.
Ryan Moore
Dallas Baker
Jacoby Jones - interesting small school guy.
Dwayne Jarrett - Red Zone production from day 1.
Darius Walker - considered one of the best Zone runners in the draft, and considered as the best receiving back in the draft.

Partial
04-04-2007, 09:14 AM
I haven't seen that said by anyone ND, and I view a lot of draft content. Other than Receiver, Safety and DE there isn't much to this draft. I don't know that a single guy from this years top 5 would have broke into last years top 5.

I also just don't feel like the depth is there. Guys like Blackmon are gonig to be going on the first day this year. We got a steal in the 5th.

I can't find any sportswriters making an real comparison between the two, but This site full of draft lovers (http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1694) agrees more with my sentiment.

ND72
04-04-2007, 09:17 AM
Joe Thomas would have been top 5 last year ahead of Ferguson. Calvin Johnson probably breaks the top 5 last year as well.

This is a deep RB class. Solid RB's could be taken well into round 4. Deep WR class. This is actually a deep OL "2nd tear" group this year. You have the top 1/2 round guys...but everyone else is kind of a 3/4/5 round type. DB is deep. DL is pretty deep as well. Solid players at DE or DT can be seen into round 5. There aren't the "name" guys this year. But the talent is deep.

Partial
04-04-2007, 09:29 AM
It is very deep in WR, Safety and DE. Definitely can get a contributor just about anywhere on the first day.

But, last year was a rarity. Thomas and D'Brick gotta be a push because D'Brick is a much more freakish athlete.

Santonio Holmes probably wouldn't crack the first round this year, so the WR class is clearly much better.

But, I don't think Olsen would be a first day pick last year. There were too many TEs with great production compared to a guy with little production that had a Mike Mamula-esque combine.

RB was not especially deep last year. This year its deeper. Wait until next year. That class of RB will be all time.

Certainly last year was more top heavy than this draft, as the prospects across the board in direct comparison simply cannot compete. I think last years draft will be the equivalent to the NBA 2003 draft, one of the best ever.

You've got solid low-round contributors in Mark Anderson (one of the best speed rushers in the league, pro-bowler), Owen Daniels (future pro-bowler, led all rookie TE in TD), a second round linebacker who is one of the best linebackers in the NFL already, 3 quarterbacks who would each go #1 this year, the most hyped prospect to come out in many, many years in Reggie Bush, and the ultimate weapon in Vince Young.




Here is a decent analysis of the two drafts that I found:

Difference is on a scale of < [slim margain] to <<< [large margain]

QB [2006] >> QB [2007]

2006 was a great draft for QB's with Leinart, Young and Cutler and some not bad ones afterwards [Clemens, Croyle etc]. There are only two elite QB prospects this year and they have a weaker class after that. Two pts for 2006.

RB [2006] >> RB [2007]

Marshawn and AD are every bit as good as Reggie Bush in terms of a pro RB prospect, but after that the talent really drops off. 2006 was solid all through the 1st day. #8 ranked RB 2006 - Jerious Norwood....#8 this year...Darius Walker. Enough said.

WR [2006] <<< WR [2007]

Chad Jackson might be the 8th WR taken if he had come out this year. If I had a 5 < rating I would use it here.

OL [2006] >> OL [2007]

2006 had much better OT prospects [Brick, McNeill, Winston, Justice, Trueblood] than this year [Thomas, Brown, Sears, Staley]. Guards are very even, as are C's with the emergence of Kalil.

DL [2006] < DL [2007]

This is a tough one. The DE's are pretty close. I think 2007 has more depth at the position and more Day 1 prospects. 2006 has the best prospect [Williams] and had more 3-4 OLB prospects than we do this year [Lawson, Wimbley]. What tips the scales to 2007 for me is the DT position. Branch/Okoye and Ngata/Bunkley is pretty even, but Pitcock and Harrell are better than McCargo and Tank = Watson imo. Slight edge to this years draft.

LB [2006] >> LB [2007]

With no elite prospects at LB this year, it isn't very close. There are some nice values this year with Poz, Willis, and Timmons. But you just can't compare them to Hawk, Greenway, Sims and Howard.

DB [2006] < DB [2007]

This is also fairly evenly matched. CB's are close with no elite level CB's available [tho Leon Hall comes close]. I think the top end prospects this year are a little more physical than last year, and I believe that will make them more successful in the long run. Safeties are pretty much dead even in my eyes and I think they will go at almost the same rate as last year.

Add this up....

[2006] 8 - 5 [2007]

I know some ppl will disagree with me, and I do think that 2007 will be better on Day 2 than last year, but I think the depth at QB, RB, OL and LB make 2006 a clearly stronger draft.

PS - I went into this in favor of 2007....

EDIT - Forgot TE's. 2006 was stronger but it would have been bunched in with WR's and would not have changed the score at all. This is the best WR draft in recent memory and last year's was pretty sad.

BallHawk
04-04-2007, 09:38 AM
On a short list....

Kenny Irons
Antonio Pittman
Ted Ginn Jr.
Dwayne Bowe
Jason Hill- The Greg Jennings of 2007
Robert Meachem
Drew Stanton
LaRon Landry

Partial
04-04-2007, 09:44 AM
I like DWayne Bowe a lot.

I trust Harv on Sidney Rice.

I would not mind seeing Joe Stellmacher or Roderick Rodgers brought into camp.


I think Stocco would be an excellent quarterback to choose in the 6th/7th round if he's there.

I agree with BH that Kenny Irons is vastly overrated and i'd take him over Pacman Lynch.

ND72
04-04-2007, 09:48 AM
I would not mind seeing Joe Stellmacher or Roderick Rodgers brought into camp.



Joe isn't pursueing the NFL. He's student teaching next fall, and graudate assisting at UW. I told Joe I would pay his $50 to have his name put into the rookie class, but he laughed and said he's not interested.

Partial
04-04-2007, 09:54 AM
I would not mind seeing Joe Stellmacher or Roderick Rodgers brought into camp.



Joe isn't pursueing the NFL. He's student teaching next fall, and graudate assisting at UW. I told Joe I would pay his $50 to have his name put into the rookie class, but he laughed and said he's not interested.

Now that is an interesting decision. Is he going for a phD or something? Otherwise, I would think the appeal of playing a game for a career would be much better and more rewarding for a family, even if you are a career backup and floater, for 8-10 years than doing the daily grind for 50.

Either way, I salute him. He is the definition of a great badger!

Patler
04-04-2007, 10:13 AM
Jeff Samardzija in round 7, just in case his baseball career flops!

Charles Woodson
04-04-2007, 10:36 AM
Wouldnt mind the following:


Safties
L. Landry
R. Nelson
Brandon Merriweather

Quarter Backs
D. Stanton

Running Backs
M. Lynch
D. Walker
Lorenzo Booker
Selvin Young

Tight Ends
Martrez Milner
Greg Olsen

WR
S. Rice
Steve breaston/Steve smith

HarveyWallbangers
04-04-2007, 12:00 PM
Guys that I generally like or that I like higher than they are rated:

QB Drew Stanton
RB Antonio Pittman, Brandon Jackson, Marshawn Lynch (now that he's dropping)
FB Brian Leonard
WR Robert Meachem, Sidney Rice, Paul Williams (I'll go with Mad on this one)
TE Zach Miller (supposed to be faster than he timed), Ben Patrick
OL Joe Staley, Doug Datish
DE Adam Carriker, Tim Crowder
DT Quinn Pitcock
LB Patrick Willis, Lawrence Timmons
CB Marcus McCauley, Eric Wright, Courtney Brown (athleticism is worth taking a chance on late)
S Michael Griffin, Eric Weddle, Craig Dahl

pittstang5
04-04-2007, 02:22 PM
Jeff Samardzija in round 7, just in case his baseball career flops!

I'm really curious to see if anyone does that.

bigcoz75
04-04-2007, 02:24 PM
Thought I'd take this a little different and throw some late round maybe FA types out there.

Allen Barbre OT Missouri Southern State- Good athlete could also play guard great for ZBS. Ran 4.84 40 at 6'4" 300 http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/ot/allenbarbre.html

Michael Allen TE Whitworth- Productive small school guy perfect for TT. Second fastest TE 40 at the combine w/4.71. 6'6" 255. Had over 1000 yds receiving last year. http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/te/michaelallan.html

Matt Trannon WR Michigan St- Former basketballer probably projects better as a TE in the NFL with some weight gain. Ran 4.54 40 at 6'6" 216
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/wr/matttrannon.html

Daren Stone S Maine- Big for a safety at 6'3" ran 4.6 40. Intresting prospect at least.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/s/darenstone.html

Le'Ron McClain FB Alabama- One of the top 3 FB's this year but still would be there in the late rounds. 6'0" 256 with great hands would make him worth looking at.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/fb/leronmcclain.html

Patler
04-04-2007, 02:59 PM
Jeff Samardzija in round 7, just in case his baseball career flops!

I'm really curious to see if anyone does that.

I'm quite certain someone will, and it could be higher than the 7th. If someone has multiple picks in a round on the second day and doesn't feel anyone left on the board merits that high of a pick, Samardzija could go anytime on the second day.

RashanGary
04-04-2007, 07:43 PM
I don't know enough about most of these guys but I really like:

Patrick Willis *if there is one guy that I hope drops but I know won't, it's him*
Marshawn Lynch *Big time need, big time player*
Reggie Nelson *Playmaker*

Those are guys that I think we might have a chance at.

Conversly; I can't stand Branch, Carriker or Hall. I really hope those 3 go before we pick so it pushes some real football players down to us.

HarveyWallbangers
04-04-2007, 09:20 PM
What don't you like about Carriker?

BallHawk
04-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Speaking of DE, I would love to pick-up Anthony Spencer out of Purdue.

RashanGary
04-05-2007, 09:04 PM
Speaking of DE, I would love to pick-up Anthony Spencer out of Purdue.

I like him too.

RashanGary
04-05-2007, 09:07 PM
I have a major problem with tall DE's who rely on power more than speed. It takes a rare player to beable to dominate with power at that height. The ones who do it are great but so many fail for every one who succeeds.

I don't think he'll beable to get enough leverage to be really good in the NFL.

HarveyWallbangers
04-05-2007, 10:45 PM
Seems like you're reaching. Michael Strahan is a tall DE that relies on power, and he's been pretty damn good. Same with Reggie White and Ed "Too Tall" Jones. The guy rated just ahead of him, Jamaal Anderson, is over 6'5"--and Mario Williams is a 6'7" power DE. He could be too tall or he could just be the total package. Personally, I don't like one-dimensional DEs (e.g. speed rushers), so I'd rather take a chance on a guy that I think can be a four down player. Sure, there are busts with tall DL--when they don't have a good knee-bend. Some guys are just players though. The knock on Hawk last year was that he was only 6'1", but I hardly think height was a detriment to him.

BallHawk
04-06-2007, 09:12 AM
Carriker is a hard guy to read. He could be the next Aaron Kampman or he could be the next Jamaal Reynolds, it's tough to say. If I had to choose, I'd say he'll be more similar to the former.

RashanGary
04-06-2007, 09:50 PM
I like:

Anthony Spencer
Jason Hill
Patrick Willis
Marshawn Lynch

RashanGary
04-06-2007, 09:57 PM
I like Dan Bazuin and Charles Johnson too.