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woodbuck27
04-24-2007, 12:18 PM
http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070424/PKR01/704240576/1989


Posted April 24, 2007

NFL draft preview: Top-rated O-linemen often turn into busts

By Pete Dougherty
pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com

In the last seven NFL drafts, seven left tackles have come off the board among the first 10 picks.

That list includes players who have been solid or better: Chris Samuels of Washington, Jordan Gross of Carolina, and a rookie last year, D'Brickashaw Ferguson of the New York Jets.

But it also includes several who have thus far been more failure than success: Bryant McKinnie of Minnesota; Robert Gallery of Oakland; Mike Williams, who was drafted by Buffalo but is not on an NFL roster currently; and Leonard Davis, who was drafted by Arizona and signed with Dallas this offseason.

This year, at least one and probably two tackles will go among the top 10 picks, and the University of Wisconsin's Joe Thomas probably will be the first. He has a chance to go in the top five, and many scouts consider him as sure a thing as there can be in a draft, though they're by no means unanimous in that verdict.

"He's as solid as solid can get," said the college scouting director for an AFC team.

"For a guy to play at the level he played coming off the knee (injury in January 2006) is remarkable. The guy's a better-than-average run blocker — he's not a dominant run blocker, but to be a left tackle, he blocks good enough. Excellent pass blocker.

"He's got great balance, good recovery, he's athletic. He's the type of guy you can turn the protection the other way and leave him out there one-on-one with the other team's rusher, which is rare these days."

Thomas, who attended Brookfield Central High School, rates better than Penn State's Levi Brown on many draft boards, because he's a pure left tackle, where Brown was a college left tackle who might be more of a right tackle in the NFL.

Thomas is Wisconsin's highest-rated offensive lineman since Paul Gruber was the fourth pick by Tampa Bay in 1988. He probably would have come out for last year's draft but tore the anterior-cruciate ligament in his right knee while filling in for an injury-plagued defensive line on a goal-line play in the Capital One Bowl.

Eight months later, he was in the Badgers' starting lineup.

"The amazing thing is this kid played (eight) months post-op of an ACL," another scout said. "He played a little tentative early, but he came on. I think he has a lot of ability."

No doubt, it's dangerous to call any player a sure bet to be good in the NFL — Gallery looked like a sure thing as the No. 2 pick in 2004, but so far he's been a bust. But Thomas and Georgia Tech receiver Calvin Johnson are considered the most sure things in this draft, and there's a good chance Thomas will be a top five pick — perhaps he'll land at No. 4 if Detroit trades back from the No. 2 spot with Tampa Bay. Some scouts say Thomas compares favorably to Ferguson, who was the No. 4 pick overall last year, and the other recent top 10 tackles who have fared well. Thomas is 6-feet-6½ and 311 pounds.

"He's a more solid prospect than Ferguson based on body size," another scout said. "Ferguson was a guy that built himself up to 300-and-whatever at the (scouting) combine, 315 (pounds), but he's really a natural 285 or 290-pound guy.

"(Thomas) is more like Gross than he is like Gallery. He's more of a flexible athlete than Gallery. Gallery had really good static strength and speed and power, but in terms of being a flexible athlete, that wasn't his strength. (Thomas) is a little more, I don't want to say dominant, than Gross, but he's more well-rounded than Jordan Gross was. Jordan might have had a little more nasty to him as a run blocker, but in terms of his overall skill set, he rates a little higher than Gross does."

woodbuck27
04-24-2007, 12:27 PM
Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas is expected to be a top 5 pick in Saturday's NFL draft.

Position depth

There are only two sure-fire first-rounders in this draft in tackles Joe Thomas of the University of Wisconsin and Levi Brown of Penn State, but, like most years, quality players on the offensive line can crop up in almost any round.


Packers outlook

Not a major need after GM Ted Thompson selected three linemen in last year's draft, but it's always a position where teams are looking to add depth. Also, with left tackle Chad Clifton's knee giving him chronic problems, the Packers could use a left tackle to develop for the future.


Top prospect

Joe Thomas, Wisconsin: Could go among the first four or five picks and will be a starter at the crucial left-tackle position from Day 1.


Rising star

Joe Staley, Central Michigan: A converted tight end who played well and then tested and performed his personal workout like an elite player in the offseason.


Falling star

Tony Ugoh, Arkansas: Shows top-level talent at left tackle and probably will be a second-round pick, but some scouts are concerned he's a boom-or-bust selection who could flop, because he's not committed enough to football.


Sleeper

Doug Free, Northern Illinois: Former Manitowoc High School player moved from tight end to left tackle in college who could be a first-day pick.


Wisconsin ties

Doug Free, T, Northern Illinois (Manitowoc); Adam Tadish, T, North Dakota State (Wausaukee); Nic Sobic, T, Harvard (Waukesha Catholic Memorial); Brett Tobin, T, Western Illinois (Pulaski).

oregonpackfan
04-24-2007, 03:12 PM
Check out this week's issue of Sports Illustrated. They have an excellent article on Joe Thomas.

The guy is very intelligent, has an excellent work ethic on and off the field, takes pride in whatever he does, and just has a "Down-To-Earth" attiude in dealing with people. Combine those mental and emotional traits with his immense physical skills and you have a legitimate round 1 pick who is destined to be an all-Pro.

Yes, other top-ranked O-lineman have not panned out in the pros, Joe Thomas, however, will be an exception to that, IMO.

Guiness
04-24-2007, 05:13 PM
Is Gallery that much of a bust?

Strange that if you were going to ask someone who the top LT's in the league are, is would be Ogden, Pace and Jones. If you'd asked that question 7-8 years ago, you'd have gotten the same answer!

I know experience matters on OL, but that's not the reason these guys are still at the top - it's because no one else has come along the past couple of years. I wonder if Brick will step up to their level?

retailguy
04-24-2007, 10:00 PM
Is Gallery that much of a bust?



Nah, he's "adequate"... but for where he was drafted.... He's no Walter Jones, that's for sure...

woodbuck27
04-26-2007, 02:15 PM
Is Gallery that much of a bust?



Nah, he's "adequate"... but for where he was drafted.... He's no Walter Jones, that's for sure...

He's certainly been a huge disappointment.

woodbuck27
04-26-2007, 02:21 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=596005

Thomas' priorities just right

Posted: April 24, 2007


Michael Hunt
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Don't know if Joe Thomas is going to be the next Anthony Munoz, the standard by which all NFL offensive tackles are measured.

Don't know if Thomas is going to be another Orlando Pace, Willie Roaf, Tony Boselli, Walter Jones or any of the other elite left-side protectors who have made fabulous careers of keeping quarterbacks upright and running lanes unobstructed.

Don't even know if Thomas will somehow turn into Tony Mandarich, although that is about as likely as Sanjaya Malakar becoming the next Stevie Wonder.

Three days before the NFL draft, I don't even care if Joe Thomas is picked second by Detroit, fifth by Arizona or later this spring by the Milwaukee Bucks, who could use an athletic 6-foot-6 bruiser to give someone the business under the boards.

The only thing that seems important at the moment regarding the magnificent future of Joe Thomas - who one day just might be judged as the greatest professional player ever from the University of Wisconsin - is that Eric and Sally Thomas of Brookfield did some kind of job raising their son.

And that should matter if you are a parent, a young person finding your way or Roger Goodell, the NFL commissioner who has begun a career by cracking down against the Pacman Joneses, the Bengals Gone Wild and assorted other knuckleheads who need to know that the privilege of playing in the NFL does not include bad behavior.

Although Goodell personally appealed to Thomas to attend the draft Saturday in New York City, the Commish should instead be thrilled that Thomas will be on Lake Michigan fishing with his dad when the tedious process is being played out at Radio City Music Hall.

Thomas got it when he said that draft day, with the hype-o-meter's needle pinned to the right, means nothing because the real work begins the day after ESPN's exhaustive coverage has worn down all but the seriously indoctrinated.

But it's more than that. When you've got the chance to go fishing with your dad, you take it because you never know if it might be the last time. It won't be long before Thomas won't have a leisurely weekend to spend with his father. Pro football can wait a day for Joe Thomas because the NFL needs more Joe Thomases.

It goes beyond the fact that Thomas is a model student at UW, still carrying a full load and a 3.5 GPA in real estate urban land economics with the draft approaching. Or that his parents worked overtime to instill the proper values. Or that Thomas never complained when he blew out his knee while volunteering to play defense in a bowl game two years ago.

Take a look at some of the resonating comments posted to AOL on Thomas' choice to be with his dad on draft day:

A football career is temporary, a family is forever. I applaud his decision.

Way to go, Joe. I think we have a role model for kids here.

I wish I could still fish with my dad, who passed a few years ago.

Roger Goodell, give this guy a bonus. He has his priorities straight, which is unusual in the NFL.

This would be better only if Thomas had denied the NFL Network permission to put a camera on the boat. You can only hope to contain the NFL's publicity machine, but the commissioner also needs to understand that Joe Thomas has already been great for the league, even before he has thrown his first pancake block.

Send e-mail to mhunt@journalsentinel.com

MadtownPacker
04-26-2007, 06:47 PM
Check out this week's issue of Sports Illustrated. They have an excellent article on Joe Thomas.
Oh uh, I was watching NFLN last night and they had a special on top 10 draft bust. Guess what OL made #2? The mentioned how SI was a main contributor to the hype regarding the "incredible bulk". Not relevant but just wondering if SI is the kiss of death? :D