2007 Opening Day WR's ????????????

[Bretsky]

OK, DRAFT IS DONE

Time to start a speculative thread. Give your view on what WR's make our opening day 2007 Roster. We certainly have a few

I'd say Driver and Jennings are the only roster Locks.
The 3rd rounder actually might be as well so that ties up three spots.
We normally only keep 5 WR's as of late.

Here is a breakdown.


DRIVER
JENNINGS
JAMES JONES (probably a lock, even though pick might have been a reach)

David Clowney - 2007 pick (IMO this was a very good pick for round 5)
Ruvell Martin (flashed capability in 2006)
Carlyle Holiday (showed nice flashes of potential in 06)

Robert Ferguson (Time for the Fraud to leave the house IMO)
Shaun Bodiford (just a guy IMO)
Carlton Brewster (doing OK in Europe)
Calvin Russell
Chris Francies
Koren Robinson (could be back in week 5-8 of next year)


Is Fergy gone June 1st ? Party at B's house if that happens.

We've got a lot of bodies there.

[SD GB fan]

i think james jones is close to a lock because of his draft status. but anyone get the feeling that clowney will be better than jones, at least this season?

[retailguy]

Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Martin
Holiday


With the possibility that Clowney hits the practice squad if he doesn't have a good camp.

Leading contender at that point would be Bodiford if he works out as a KR.

And, yes, I think they keep 6.

[Brando19]

I believe Driver will be #1, Jennings will be #2, and Holiday will be #3.

[Badgerinmaine]

i think james jones is close to a lock because of his draft status. but anyone get the feeling that clowney will be better than jones, at least this season?
Yes, and maybe.
Call it a hunch, but I have trouble picturing both Holliday and Martin making it.

[BallHawk]

1. Driver
2. Jennings
3. Jones
4. Martin
5. Clowney

It's possible we could keep six for the first 4 weeks and alternate the last 2, Martin and Clowney, with another receiver, such as Holliday. Then keep the best or best two of the 3.

[Joemailman]

Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Martin
Holiday


With the possibility that Clowney hits the practice squad if he doesn't have a good camp.

Leading contender at that point would be Bodiford if he works out as a KR.

And, yes, I think they keep 6.

I agree there will be 6. I think Bodiford makes it as a returner. Martin and Holiday battle it out but only 1 makes it, unless Clowney is a bust. Bye Bye Fergy.

[retailguy]

Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Martin
Holiday


With the possibility that Clowney hits the practice squad if he doesn't have a good camp.

Leading contender at that point would be Bodiford if he works out as a KR.

And, yes, I think they keep 6.

I agree there will be 6. I think Bodiford makes it as a returner. Martin and Holiday battle it out but only 1 makes it, unless Clowney is a bust. Bye Bye Fergy.

Man, you like Bodiford a lot better than me, but I agree with your logic.

[wist43]

Driver, Jennings, and a bunch of guys.

Jones will stick b/c of his draft status... if K Rob is reinstated he instantly becomes the 3rd WR.

Clowny is a good long term prospect, but it's unlikely we'll see any contribution from scrimmage from either Jones or Clowny.

TT really hasn't lifted a finger to help the offense this offseason... although I think Jackson may be an ok back; I don't see him being nearly as good as Green.

[Charles Woodson]

I saw that Clowney ran a 4.3 something, i know fast doesnt always mean he'll be good but can he mabe return kicks?

[J-Rok]

Fast does not always mean good kick returner either.

[Charles Woodson]

Fast does not always mean good kick returner either.

buddy i said that in my post, read it next time

[Chubbyhubby]

Driver, Jennings, and a bunch of guys.

Jones will stick b/c of his draft status... if K Rob is reinstated he instantly becomes the 3rd WR.

Clowny is a good long term prospect, but it's unlikely we'll see any contribution from scrimmage from either Jones or Clowny.

TT really hasn't lifted a finger to help the offense this offseason... although I think Jackson may be an ok back; I don't see him being nearly as good as Green.

I have heard that TT really likes the backs he has now on the roster. My guess he will do a rotate all 3. I agree Jackson is absoulutly no Green. As of Clowny I like him. He has good hands and has speed to burn. Ran 4.3 at combine. He could be the stand out player of this draft when we look back this time next year.

[Freak Out]

What about Moss? Oh...thats right.

[retailguy]

What about Moss? Oh...thats right.

He was "too expensive" and didn't want to be here because we're not "Super Bowl" ready... :wink:

[Freak Out]

Driver, Jennings, and a bunch of guys.

TT really hasn't lifted a finger to help the offense this offseason...

He made it worse in many ways.

[SD GB fan]

isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.

[MJZiggy]

Maybe they did that so that Jennings doesn't have to go over the middle anymore.

[Sparkey]

isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.

I believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.

I recall, last year, quite a few people getting all bent out of shape about drafting Jennings. Said he was TOO SLOW, SMALL SCHOOL, played slow etc. etc. If he hadn't had a high ankle sprain who knows ?

[BallHawk]

isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.

I believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.

I recall, last year, quite a few people getting all bent out of shape about drafting Jennings. Said he was TOO SLOW, SMALL SCHOOL, played slow etc. etc. If he hadn't had a high ankle sprain who knows ?

It was about 65/35 that Jennings would be nothing. The main criticism was that he was too small. I remember only one person that was complaining about him being from a small school.

[BallHawk]

I believe Green Bay was near the top of the list in dropped passes last year, so drafting a guy that every scouting report says has great hands is not a problem with me.

We were numero uno on that list. :x

[packers11]

Greg Jennings
WR | (5'11", 197, 4.46) | WESTERN MICHIGAN

Scouts Grade: 80
Strengths: He has dominated his level of play as a go-to-receiver and punt return specialist. He is quicker than fast but also possesses good top-end speed. Shows a little bit of a second gear when he hits daylight. He shows excellent body control, balance and COD skills. Is a sharp route runner who gets in and out of his breaks very quickly. Knows how to separate and also has a very good feel for finding soft spots in zone. He's a threat after the catch. Shows some "wiggle" in space and will make defenders miss. Also has very good vision as a runner and will make the right cut at the right time.

Weaknesses: Lack of ideal NFL "measurables" will cost him on draft day. He has below-average height and bulk. He lacks ideal strength. He doesn't show the leaping ability or size to make many plays vertically in the passing game at the NFL level. He will have more trouble getting off the LOS and will get pushed around by bigger DB's. He also must prove that he has the speed and elusiveness to transfer his punt return production to the NFL.

Overall: Jennings is a three-year starter who also contributed as a true freshman at Western Michigan in 2002 but missed four games that season with a broken ankle. In three seasons prior to his senior year in 2005, Jennings notched 2,280 career receiving yards and 25 touchdowns. As a junior in 2004, Jennings finished with 74 receptions for 1,092 yards and 11 TDs. Jennings also averaged an impressive 14.8 yards per punt return, including two scores. Jennings was one of the most productive wide receivers in the nation as a senior in 2005 when he finished with 1,259 yards and 14 TDs on 98 receptions. Jennings doesn't fit the ideal mold for an NFL receiver and he did not play against top DI-A competition -- for the most part -- while playing at Western Michigan. However, Jennings has enough size, speed and quickness to develop into a No. 2 or No. 3 receiver in the NFL. He has exceptional instincts as a receiver and he is a tough competitor. Helping to ease doubts about his ability to play at the next level was Jennings' 16-catch performance versus Virginia as a senior in 2005. Jennings also is a fine special team's player who has shown a lot of upside as a punt return specialist. After a strong showing in the post-season (E-W Shrine game and combine), Jennings is fast-rising and could come off the 2006 draft board as early as the third round.


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[packers11]

Chad Jackson
WR | (6'0", 213, 4.34) | FLORIDA

Scouts Grade: 96

Strengths: He possesses good size and what looks to be very good top-end speed on film. He shows the initial burst and acceleration to get over the top of defenders as a vertical receiver. He has long arms and big hands. Will flash the ability to make the acrobatic catch. Shows good burst after the catch and can be productive in that facet if given a crease to exploit. He is a flexible athlete and he has been durable to this point. He has big, soft hands. Shows the ability to pluck on the run and make the tough catch in traffic. He is physical and not afraid to go over the middle. Possesses size, strength and toughness to excel as a blocker in the NFL.

Weaknesses: Must improve his overall route-running skills. He has a tendency to round off his routes. Needs to learn to drop his weight in order to get in and out of his breaks without losing so much time in transition. His effort can be spotty and he will get frustrated if he doesn't get involved early in a game. He has a tendency to disappear from games at times. Still has room to improve in terms of his ability to read coverages and find soft spots in zone. He has big, soft hands, but he will occasionally drop the "catchable" ball due to concentration lapses. Needs to give more consistent effort and improve his technique as a stalk-blocker.

Overall: Jackson saw time on special teams in 13 games and at wide receiver in four games during his true freshman season in 2003. He emerged as a fulltime starter during his final two seasons at Florida (2004-'05), when he combined for 1,548 yards and 15 touchdowns on 117 receptions. Jackson experienced a bit of a rollercoaster season as a junior, which led to immediate questions regarding his decision to leave school early. While he certainly could have finished with a better season had he returned as a senior, Jackson should benefit from coming out early to be part of what shapes up as a comparatively weak wide receiver class in 2006. With an outstanding combination of size, speed, athletic ability and hand-eye coordination, Jackson is an underrated prospect with a great deal of NFL upside. He could slip due to his inconsistent collegiate career, but we think Jackson is a first-round caliber wide receiver prospect that will flourish in the NFL.


* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[packers11]

TT had a lot of balls to go with Jennings... :lol:

Good thing roboTED made the right choice... A risky/ballsy one... but the right one...

[run pMc]

Starters are Driver and Jennings.

K-Rob and Fergy are on thin ice...my guess is Fergy gets cut and Bodiford returns kicks until K-Rob rejoins the team, then they cut Bodiford (unless he excels) and have one of the RB's return kicks. Ick.

Martin is probably gone; I think they'll keep Holiday over him, but that will be an interesting camp battle.

Either Jones or Clowney stay, probably not both. I hope the WR corps won't be Driver and a bunch of rookies/NFL-E guys like last year.

BTW, am I the only one whose first thoughts of the news that TT drafted Jones was: "Oh no, he just drafted Cory Rodgers AGAIN!" ? Hopefully Jones will show something and stick with the team...cutting a #3 is rarely done.

[RashanGary]

I think the biggest problem we have soemtiems is taht we look at heightl, weight and speed and make assumptions.

You cant' teach anyone to play a position. It's important that you're not a complete stiff but you don't need freakish athletic ability to be a stud in the NFL. Rice, Harrison, Steve Smith..All of these guys have glaring holes in their games yet they are ultra effective and true difference makers.

Anquan Bodlin, Colston, ect...

There is more to playing a position than height weight speed and that is one thing taht I really like about Thompson. He looks at how they play the game. I think many of us, me included at times, need to chill out and realize that we don't really know that much. Thompson said in his press conference today that one of his picks was known amongst scouts but wasn't noticed by the media. I took from that; that we cna't just trust these media experts. They don't know everything and Thompson was saying that.

[Deputy Nutz]

1. Driver
2. Jennings
3. Clowney
4. Martin
5. Jones

6. Robinson
7. Holliday
8. Bodiford
9. Ferguson

Lets not count Ferguson out. I think he atleast makes it into camp due to the fact that there are going to be a lot of question that need to be answered about the Packers wide receivers.

About Randy Moss, I was more than a little pissed at Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt, but the bottom line is that once the Pats got into the Randy Moss bidding war and it came down to negotiating with Moss's wants the Packers were pretty much hung out to dry. At this point I really can't blame Moss, he wants to go to a winner, he wants his shot at the Super Bowl and the Patriots have added the pieces to get back there in 2007, the Packers have not.

[BallHawk]

I think the biggest problem we have soemtiems is taht we look at heightl, weight and speed and make assumptions.

Exactly. If that's how the NFL worked Grady Jackson and Troy Williamson would be making the Pro Bowl year after year.

[KYPack]

(Snip)
About Randy Moss, I was more than a little pissed at Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt, but the bottom line is that once the Pats got into the Randy Moss bidding war and it came down to negotiating with Moss's wants the Packers were pretty much hung out to dry. At this point I really can't blame Moss, he wants to go to a winner, he wants his shot at the Super Bowl and the Patriots have added the pieces to get back there in 2007, the Packers have not.

Sounded like Moss told his people to only give NE the flexibility to re-negotiate his deal. That sucks, but I don't think Ted Thompson and Andrew Brandt were even given a chance to screw the deal up.

[the_idle_threat]

I like Homey Da Clowney as our badly-needed deep threat. I think he has a good chance of being a Bernard Berrain. At worst, he's Troy Williamson. At least we didn't draft him at #7! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[mmmdk]

I like Homey Da Clowney as our badly-needed deep threat. I think he has a good chance of being a Bernard Berrain. At worst, he's Troy Williamson. At least we didn't draft him at #7! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I just watched Clowney on YouTube and I was impressed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8

Do notice that the VTech QB was NEVER hitting Clowney in stride. Clowney has awesome speed, good/great adjustment to the underthrown ball and he's not afraid of traffic plus pretty good hands. Clowney had his man beat on 6-7 deep passes but often had to turn 180 degrees to catch the rock and hence got tackled. A great QB would have turned 5 or 6 of those passes into TDs by throwing in front or in stride. Those were sure TDs that the VTech QB (Glennin?) blew - big time.

David Clowney has huge upside for a 5th rounder; the guy could easily be a future # 2 and certainly # 3. Not bad.

[Iron Mike]

i think james jones is close to a lock because of his draft status. but anyone get the feeling that clowney will be better than jones, at least this season?

I wonder how much $ it would take to get him to change his first name to "Homey D"

http://www.synapticblur.com/pics/inlivingcolor01.jpg

[MJZiggy]

i think james jones is close to a lock because of his draft status. but anyone get the feeling that clowney will be better than jones, at least this season?

I wonder how much $ it would take to get him to change his first name to "Homey The"

http://www.synapticblur.com/pics/inlivingcolor01.jpg

I bet he's heard every one of them and there's just no way we're gonna come up with anything new...(then again he can't hear us and we haven't heard every one of 'em)

[BooHoo]

The small school doesn't bother me any. I am anxious to see how Jennings does in his second year. Can he push Driver to be the number one guy?

[Iron Mike]

i think james jones is close to a lock because of his draft status. but anyone get the feeling that clowney will be better than jones, at least this season?

I'm thinking with a Jim Jones on the roster, we'd better stop talking about drinking the Kool-Aid.

http://img.infoplease.com/images/home/jonestown.jpg

[3irty1]

The small school doesn't bother me any. I am anxious to see how Jennings does in his second year. Can he push Driver to be the number one guy?

Absolutely not but that would be awesome. DD is pretty incredible.

[Lurker64]

I just watched Clowney on YouTube and I was impressed.


Clowney (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8)

Jones looks pretty good on film too. He recovers very well to underthrown balls, he's very physical, and he's got good hands and leaping ability. Seems to be the kind of guy we need in the red zone.

Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5WV8nqxDY&NR=1)

(Note: I fixed your link.)

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

This is by far the hardest position to perdict. I think Jones will be our red zone guy this year. After watching his vid, he scored a lot of touchdowns. So I don't really think he is our 3rd, 4th, etc, I think he will be used mainly in the red zone.

I say we keep 5. This is not the order that I think will start, just who I think will make the active roster.

Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Holliday

Practice squad:

Martin
Bioford (I think he say a good shot at being our KR/PR)

Cut:

Ferguson

I think when Robinson comes back he makes the active roster and Holliday goes to practive squad.

[Lurker64]

I think when Robinson comes back he makes the active roster and Holliday goes to practive squad.

Can you put anybody on the practice squad? I thought there were restrictions about who can go on the practice squad based on playing time, years of experience or something. Is Martin even eligible, considering he was on the active roster most games last year?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Martin on the practice squad?

He showed enough last year that somebody would scoop him up as a backup WR.

[GBRulz]

We def have alot of bodies this year and I'm excited to see the battles for WR come into play. I think the only lock is DD as our #1.

[Merlin]

I thought Martin was the biggest WR we had? Does anyone know what his speed is like? Holiday looks like he could be something as well. Jones will get a serious look because of his draft status which is unfortunate to those WR's that have already shown they can do the job.

[SD GB fan]

well thats good for us right? that means whoever does make the team will be able to play well since we have a bunch of WR. unless..it just means we have a bunch of WRs taht are the same level, a low level.

[pittstang5]

I hoping one or two of the 50 WRs that Pack has on the roster will be good on KRs and PRs. I hated seeing Woodson returning punts last year and held my breath everytime (worried about injuries).

I think the Packer staff liked what they saw from Bodiford for these types of duties before the injury. I think he has a legitimate shot at making the team for this alone.

A little off topic - but weren't they considering Blackmon as a PR or KR at one point?

With all the potential talent at WR, Fergie's got to be worried about his job. One thing in his favor, I always hear that the coaching staff loves his work ethic. But, if you can't produce and stay healthy, you're not going to make it in the NFL.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Martin on the practice squad?

He showed enough last year that somebody would scoop him up as a backup WR.

True, but I kind of like holliday more. In the limited action he saw he really impressed me. He was more natural in his route running.

[ny10804]

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5WV8nqxDY)
4. David Clowney highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8)
5. Ruvell Martin
6. Carlye Holiday

Once/if Robinson is reinstated:
1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Koren Robinson
4. James Jones
5. David Clowney
6. Ruvell Martin

[Joemailman]

Martin on the practice squad?

He showed enough last year that somebody would scoop him up as a backup WR.

I believe a player is ineligible for the practice squad if he has spent an entire season on an NFL roster.


Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Martin
Holiday


With the possibility that Clowney hits the practice squad if he doesn't have a good camp.

Leading contender at that point would be Bodiford if he works out as a KR.

And, yes, I think they keep 6.

Clowney would likely get picked up by someone unless he's as bad as Cory Rodgers.

[Joemailman]

I hoping one or two of the 50 WRs that Pack has on the roster will be good on KRs and PRs. I hated seeing Woodson returning punts last year and held my breath everytime (worried about injuries).

I think the Packer staff liked what they saw from Bodiford for these types of duties before the injury. I think he has a legitimate shot at making the team for this alone.

A little off topic - but weren't they considering Blackmon as a PR or KR at one point?

With all the potential talent at WR, Fergie's got to be worried about his job. One thing in his favor, I always hear that the coaching staff loves his work ethic. But, if you can't produce and stay healthy, you're not going to make it in the NFL.

I agree that Bodiford may make it as a returner, if nothing else. Blackmon did indeed return kicks in college. It's my recollection that the coaches were impressed with his return ability in minicamp last year before he got hurt.

[4and12to12and4]

isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.

Holiday will emerge this year as the next "Javon Walker" in GB. He will outplay everyone in preseason, and be our third receiver that can stretch the field and make some big plays. Ruvell will be in on four receiver sets. The rookies will give them breathers.

[Charles Woodson]

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5WV8nqxDY)
4. David Clowney highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8)
5. Ruvell Martin
6. Carlye Holiday

Once/if Robinson is reinstated:
1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Koren Robinson
4. James Jones
5. David Clowney
6. Ruvell Martin

Idk that if robinson is reinstated that he will automatically go to spot three. i mean first of all does he still have it. He hasnt played in about a year. Is he still in shape or did he become a lazy ass? I think that the first group of recievers have a ton of potential

[BallHawk]

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5WV8nqxDY)
4. David Clowney highlights (http://youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8)
5. Ruvell Martin
6. Carlye Holiday

Once/if Robinson is reinstated:
1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Koren Robinson
4. James Jones
5. David Clowney
6. Ruvell Martin

Idk that if robinson is reinstated that he will automatically go to spot three. i mean first of all does he still have it. He hasnt played in about a year. Is he still in shape or did he become a lazy ass? I think that the first group of recievers have a ton of potential

I guarantee you he hasn't been sitting on his ass sipping Jim Bean for the last several monthes.

[Joemailman]

It's one thing to be in shape, and another thing to be in football shape. I believe Robinson cannot practice with the team until he is reinstated, so it may take some time before he is ready to play.

[Charles Woodson]

It's one thing to be in shape, and another thing to be in football shape. I believe Robinson cannot practice with the team until he is reinstated, so it may take some time before he is ready to play.

thats what i was trying to say, i seriously doubt that he will come in (4th game?) while everyone else has been working out with the team and is in shape and come in and take the 3rd spot

[AV David]

isnt jones someone can go catch over the middle and run after the catch? thats basically another driver/jennings. so exactly how much space is in the "middle" of the field. can it fit three identical WRs? i would rather see clowney as the third WR. even if he cant catch, send him running downfield to open up space.

Isn't this the same description of Sterling Sharpe?

Not real fast, thick body, but can get open and makes yards after the catch?

I am not saying he is a Sterling Sharpe.

I am saying that guys that are not speed merchants but who are tough and have good hands can indeed be valuable WRs

[MJZiggy]

It's one thing to be in shape, and another thing to be in football shape. I believe Robinson cannot practice with the team until he is reinstated, so it may take some time before he is ready to play.

thats what i was trying to say, i seriously doubt that he will come in (4th game?) while everyone else has been working out with the team and is in shape and come in and take the 3rd spot

The odd situation is that he may not be working out with the team, but he is serving part of his sentence at Bellin alongside the team doctor. So at least he has someone from the team with an eye on him.

[retailguy]

Driver
Jennings
Jones
Clowney
Martin
Holiday


With the possibility that Clowney hits the practice squad if he doesn't have a good camp.

Leading contender at that point would be Bodiford if he works out as a KR.

And, yes, I think they keep 6.

Clowney would likely get picked up by someone unless he's as bad as Cory Rodgers.


Please re-read - I said IF he has a bad camp. IF he doesn't have a "bad" camp, (even if it's below average), I think he makes the team.