Some Vids

[MJZiggy]

James Jones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj5WV8nqxDY&NR=1

Check out the adjustments and the one-handed grab near the end

Clowney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8&mode=related&search=

Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I

He's lookin' a little slippery here and bowls a few over for extra yards

Couldn't find that Harrell vid...

[Joemailman]

Jones really adjusts well to underthrown balls.

Zig, I think you posted the URL for Clowney twice.

[Joemailman]

Brandon Jackson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I


Aaron Rouse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPhQ1LfRsdU

[OS PA]

After watching that video i'm wondering how Jones was such a reach in the third. It seems like the kid has some crazy ball skills.

[Charles Woodson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I&NR=1

thats the jackson link

[Charles Woodson]

After watching that video i'm wondering how Jones was such a reach in the third. It seems like the kid has some crazy ball skills.

Yea i wish i would have watched the film earlier... That one part when they ran the reverse was just sick, he put a nasty juke on one guy. But i did notice on most of them the corners played horrible coverage. Going to go watch jacksons and clowneys

[MJZiggy]

After watching that video i'm wondering how Jones was such a reach in the third. It seems like the kid has some crazy ball skills.

I can't get over the one-handed grab up the middle. That was just amazing.

[Charles Woodson]

I like Jackson, but imo he should develop hes moves a little bit more. Does anybody know his 40 time?

Shit clowney's fast

[MJZiggy]

Ok, but can someone dig up that Harrell vid?

[Joemailman]

I like Jackson, but imo he should develop hes moves a little bit more. Does anybody know his 40 time?

Shit clowney's fast

Jackson was 4.41. Peterson was 4.40. Lynch was 4.47.


Ok, but can someone dig up that Harrell vid?

Is there a Harrell vid? He hardly played as a senior.

[green_bowl_packer]

Here's Clowney in H.S. where is QB had a better arm. He's got some YAC ability, and can run the slant.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owhfUBkUwns

[MJZiggy]

I like Jackson, but imo he should develop hes moves a little bit more. Does anybody know his 40 time?

Shit clowney's fast

Jackson was 4.41. Peterson was 4.40. Lynch was 4.47.


Ok, but can someone dig up that Harrell vid?

Is there a Harrell vid? He hardly played as a senior.

I thought someone posted something in the draft thread...

[packers11]

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=2376400&ch=396337&src=sports

There is Harrell

[HarveyWallbangers]

More draft video (good ones on Yahoo) of all the players:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb

Click the icons.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I hate the poor quality of the youtube videos.

[MJZiggy]

More draft video (good ones on Yahoo) of all the players:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb

Click the icons.

Showoff!!! lol

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jackson was 4.41. Peterson was 4.40. Lynch was 4.47.

Not really. Jackson ran in the low 4.5s at the combine. He ran in the low 4.4s on campus, but Nebraska probably has the fastest turf in the nation. Ahman Green ran in the 4.2s on campus.

Peterson is clearly faster than Jackson. It was close in the shuttle runs and vertical jump, I believe.

[Lurker64]

I love Jones's skills in complement to the rest of our guys. The guy is a really physical receiver, and he's got great hands and good leaping ability. Looks to me like he has the shot to be a great red zone threat, where "blazing 40 speed" isn't as much of an issue as your ability to muscle the DB out of position and go up for the ball.

If he could get a license to push off, he'd be unstoppable. ;)

[Sef0r]

Does anyone remember last year when we drafted Cory Rodgers?
Did you remember watching highlight vids for Cory and Greg Jennings?
I remember watching them and thinking, Jennings looks natural, Rodgers showed more returning kicks.

Well when i watch our 2 new WRs I get the same feeling I had with Jennings.
Jones reminds me of Jennings, possession receiver, adjusts to ball, nice run after catch.
Clowney is just a freak, breaks from coverage easily. If his QB could actually lead him further on his routes then the following highlight video would show more of his speed and run after the catch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvPDJdFAp8&mode=related&search=

I just have a REALLY good feeling on these two players.

[Partial]

Harrell is going to be an animal. I realize its a highlight film, but the guy played in the SEC and is da man at breaking away from the guards and center.

[Partial]

I wish MJD was a Packer. I'd trade a first for him. Kid is a baller.

[Partial]

Also, Clowney never catches anything in stride. He always stops. It could be the QB, though. Regardless, he doesn't have the same acceleration that Ted Ginn has. Not even close. Quite frankly I don't think we ever really saw his speed in that vid because he never gets enough seperation to pull away.

[retailguy]

Also, Clowney never catches anything in stride. He always stops. It could be the QB, though. Regardless, he doesn't have the same acceleration that Ted Ginn has. Not even close. Quite frankly I don't think we ever really saw his speed in that vid because he never gets enough seperation to pull away.

clowney was a good 5th round pick. he's a great project...

[J-Rok]

I really think it was the QB. He was waiting for the passes. When the ball did hit him in stride, he showed some nice moves for some yac.

[Joemailman]

One of the reports I read on Clowney was that he was held back by poor QB play at VT. He'll love catching passes from Brett, as long as Brett doesn't break his fingers.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Also, Clowney never catches anything in stride. He always stops. It could be the QB, though. Regardless, he doesn't have the same acceleration that Ted Ginn has. Not even close. Quite frankly I don't think we ever really saw his speed in that vid because he never gets enough seperation to pull away.

Not enough separation. Looks like he gets separation on a bunch of plays, but they have a noodle-armed QB. Look at the play at the 2:30 mark. The play at 4:10 also. Actually, there's a bunch of plays like that.

[Rastak]

I know this is off topic......but it got me fired up....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhdZPk-d14

[packers11]

I know this is off topic......but it got me fired up....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhdZPk-d14

Hes the least of my worries in the NFC-N...

This is the guy Im pissing my pants about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvBUKqhT0FE

[Rastak]

I know this is off topic......but it got me fired up....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhdZPk-d14

Hes the least of my worries in the NFC-N...

This is the guy Im pissing my pants about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvBUKqhT0FE


No shit, and with Roy Williams next to him? OUCH!

[packers11]

Rastak now you can feel the wrath of a Randy Moss playing you for the next 10 years... I WAS SO MAD when Tampa decided not to trade up... DAMN YOU LIONS!

[Sef0r]

The video I posted is over 8 minutes long. If you did watch it is very obvious that the QBs (looked like 2 different QBs) were NEVER able to lead him deep when he broke from coverage. That video is what I prefer watching because you get to see the whole formation and get an idea of the DB assignments.

Watch at the 2:20 mark. It looks like the CB and S are marking him. He runs a 10 yard streak, fakes out both DBs and runs back up the field. He was blazing past the CB he just faked out, but the pass was short so he slowed down, giving the CB time to catch up.

Then watch at the 7:37 mark, catches a short pass and some nice footwork to avoid 3 tackles.

[Rastak]

Rastak now you can feel the wrath of a Randy Moss playing you for the next 10 years... I WAS SO MAD when Tampa decided not to trade up... DAMN YOU LIONS!


I recall Sterling Sharpe who was a pain in the ass for opponents. I really respect Roy Williams and Calvin is gonna be an issue.



Blitz, Blitz Blitz I guess.

[3irty1]

Sports Illustrated has the best videos of everyone in the draft.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2007/video/

Search by round or just type.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sports Illustrated has the best videos of everyone in the draft.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2007/video/

Search by round or just type.

Looks like the same videos Yahoo has, but they break them up into type--which I don't like.

[3irty1]

Not gonna lie, Jones might be a play-maker.

Clowney just looks like he gets rocked after the catch. His QB couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat. He seems to create some separation I guess.

I'm excited about Barbre. What a perfect lineman for our system.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bump. In that youtube video of Jackson, what I would call his slide step (shown very well at 0:32 and 1:18) is what intrigued me about him. He is really shifty in the hole.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm excited about Barbre. What a perfect lineman for our system.

That's what I'm thinking. Barbre is as athletic as any OL in the draft. Rouse is as athletic as any S in the draft.

[BallHawk]

I'm excited about Barbre. What a perfect lineman for our system.

I look forward to Barbe being a rock on our line for the next several years.

[BallHawk]

Here's a great video of Clowney adjusting to a pretty bad throw....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAUsmw2Kosc&mode=related&search=

[RashanGary]

Watching that Jackson video again, this is what I notice:

1. He's not as powerfull as Green.
2. He's not as fast *straitline* as Green in his prime
3. He looked faster than last years Green.
4. He looked much more explosive into the hole than Green last year.
5. He looked much more slippery and elusive than Green last year.


I don't see much of a step back from Green of last year to Jackson. I woulnd't be suprised if our running game took a reasonable step forward with the improved line.

[MJZiggy]

How would he compare to Green in his rookie season?

[HarveyWallbangers]

How would he compare to Green in his rookie season?

I don't think people appreciate Green in his prime. He didn't play much his rookie year, but mainly because of fumble problems. When Ahman came out, he ran sub 4.3 (which is considerably faster than Jackson). In his prime, he always ran "angry" also. He finished runs. He also had an amazing ability to avoid big hits... mainly because his pad level stayed low. Ahman was one of the most talented RBs in the history of the NFL. I don't see Jackson being elite, but he looks like he could be pretty good. Jackson looks like he gets his pad level low most of the time. He looks like a good receiver. He looks like he might even be shiftier than Ahman. He doesn't have the speed or power that Ahman had in his prime, but not many RBs do. Ahman still had power last year, and he still had speed, but he's taken a step back in both departments. This guy might not be a huge dropoff from last year's Ahman--even in his rookie season.

[MJZiggy]

The reason I'm asking is that I'm wondering if he has the potential to turn into a back similar to Ahman when he reaches his prime. I think the best way to do that is to compare the two at the same point in their NFL careers.

[Rastak]

How would he compare to Green in his rookie season?

I don't think people appreciate Green in his prime. He didn't play much his rookie year, but mainly because of fumble problems. When Ahman came out, he ran sub 4.3 (which is considerably faster than Jackson). In his prime, he always ran "angry" also. He finished runs. He also had an amazing ability to avoid big hits... mainly because his pad level stayed low. Ahman was one of the most talented RBs in the history of the NFL. I don't see Jackson being elite, but he looks like he could be pretty good. Jackson looks like he gets his pad level low most of the time. He looks like a good receiver. He looks like he might even be shiftier than Ahman. He doesn't have the speed or power that Ahman had in his prime, but not many RBs do. Ahman still had power last year, and he still had speed, but he's taken a step back in both departments. This guy might not be a huge dropoff from last year's Ahman--even in his rookie season.


I think you've got the Green and Gold glasses glued to your noggin Harv, but who knows, maybe Jackson will be something special. I will say this, I agree with you on Green in his prime. That dude ran both hard and fast.
I always feared him.


edit: after reading your post again, perhaps the glasses were off....it sounded pretty balanced.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Did you think I meant this guy has a chance to be as good as Green in his rookie year?

Ahman was tough last year, but he wasn't special. Plenty of rookie RBs come in and do well. I wouldn't be shocked to see this guy approach the 2006 version of Ahman.

[Rastak]

Did you think I meant this guy has a chance to be as good as Green in his rookie year?

Ahman was tough last year, but he wasn't special. Plenty of rookie RBs come in and do well. I wouldn't be shocked to see this guy approach the 2006 version of Ahman.

Yea, I edited my post, after I read it again, I saw your point.

[RashanGary]

I doubt Peterson will be as good as Green in his prime.

That said, I think Jackson looked pretty comparable to the Green of last year. I gave my observations. I think he's better at everything compared to Green but not as powerfull which is a pretty important trait.

[Rastak]

I doubt Peterson will be as good as Green in his prime.

That said, I think Jackson looked pretty comparable to the Green of last year. I gave my observations. I think he's better at everything compared to Green but not as powerfull which is a pretty important trait.


Umm, that's a bit of a leap. But that's fine, you could be right, we'll both find out shortly.

[RashanGary]

rephrased below.

[RashanGary]

If the line is no better than it was last year, I think Green is going to be missed becuase he did well after early contact and I think Jackson and Morency would be easier tackles.

If the line can open up holes, I think Jackson and Morency both can hit it quicker and make it through without contact where as Green would be slower through but he would probably bull thorugh some early contact.

In a decent line I think it will be a push. If the line is bad, I think we're going to miss Greens power.

[SD GB fan]

both morency and jackson are shifter than green. i dont remember green juking many people out but he does get extra yards after contact. jackson is hard to tell. he lacks experience but i remember reading that he can develop into a punishing runner if he learned to lower his pads more. hes definitely not as fast as green straightline speed though.