packers11
05-08-2007, 04:44 PM
TUESDAY, May 8, 2007, 4:32 p.m.
By Tom Silverstein
Packers pass on Stocco
Former University of Wisconsin quarterback John Stocco won't be attending the Green Bay Packers' minicamp next week.
Stocco's three-day tryout last weekend during the team's rookie orientation camp did not lead to a contract offer and Stocco is now on his way to New York for a similar tryout with the Giants, his agent, John Drana said.
"He was disappointed," Drana said. "I think so many times you go in with high expectations. Only so many are selected and hundreds are around. He was disappointed, but he was realistic about it too. Now he'll have to take the long road. He'll keep grinding and stay in the mix and try to get iwith the right team and the right situation at the right time."
Drana said that Packers college scouting director John Dorsey told him that Stocco did an excellent job running the team and learning the system and that if the Packers had a need down the road Stocco would be someone they would consider.
Stocco was one of two quarterbacks who took part n the Packers' rookie camp, sharing the snaps with rookie free agent Jerry Baab of Louisiana-Layfayette. The Packers may be able to get away without signing another quarterback before their minicamp, depending on how much backup Aaron Rodgers can participate.
Starter Brett Favre (ankle) won't take part and Rodgers (broken foot) hasn't been cleared completely. The only other quarterback on the roster is third-stringer Ingle Martin.
woodbuck27
05-08-2007, 06:07 PM
"TT also passed on QB Trent Edwards who may turn out to be the QB steal of this draft." fr. some Packer fan:
Prospect Profiles
Trent Edwards Height: 6-3 Weight: 222 Position: Quarterback
College: Stanford
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OVERVIEW
Pro scouts who attended Stanford's 2006 spring drills sensed that they could see the emergence of Edwards as the elite passer in the West.
Entering their senior years, former Pac-10 Conference passers Dan Fouts (Oregon, 1970-72; San Diego, 1973), Jack Thompson (Washington State, 1975-78; Cincinnati, 1979), Akili Smith (Oregon, 1997-98; Cincinnati, 1999), Joey Harrington (Oregon, 1998-2001; Detroit, 2002) and Carson Palmer (Southern California, 1998-2002; Cincinnati, 2003) were not ranked among the nation's premier players, but by the time they finished their final season, NFL teams came clamoring for their services. All, except for Fouts, garnered first-round draft status.
However, a right foot fracture against Arizona in mid-October brought Edwards' final season to a premature close.
Injuries and poor protection by his offensive line prevented Edwards from amassing the gaudy statistics the five above mentioned quarterbacks had on their collegiate resume. However, when offensive guru Walt Harris took over as Stanford's head coach in 2004 (since dismissed after 2006), Edwards received some of the best tutelage an emerging quarterback could be afforded.
Edwards once was one of the most touted high school quarterbacks in the country, but his Stanford career was mostly a bust.
His starting career was marred by injuries, as Edwards took a beating behind a poor offensive line. He never really had a chance to show what he could do, but pro scouts will look beyond that to his good physical skills and his smarts.
One of the premiere recruits in the nation in 2001 at Los Gatos High School, Edwards was rated among the top quarterback prospects in the country by every recruiting publication.
USA Today ranked Edwards the best passing quarterback in the nation while Student Sports ranked him as the second-best quarterback prospect. He was named an All-American by Super Prep, Prep Star, Parade, Student Sports and Tom Lemming's Report, to name a few, and was a member of Prep Star's "Dream Team" and the Student Sports Top 101 squad.
ESPN's Tom Lemming named him the seventh-best passer in the nation and the No. 15 overall recruit.
Parade ranked him the third-best quarterback in the country, Prep Star ranked Edwards fourth overall in the nation while Super Prep had him ranked seventh at quarterback.
Edwards also added National Football Foundation Hall of Fame Scholar-Athlete for Santa Clara County honors following his senior season.
As a senior, Edwards was named the CCS Player of the Year by the San Jose Mercury News, first-team All-State by Cal-Hi Sports, All-League, DeAnza League MVP and All-CCS.
He completed 154 of 213 (72.3 percent) for 2,535 yards, 29 touchdowns and three interceptions during his final year.
As a junior, he was named first-team All-League, All-CCS, All-State Underclassman and All-American. He set a state record with a completion percentage of 78.1 (125 of 160), as he threw for 2,529 yards, 29 touchdowns and just four interceptions.
In his junior and senior seasons, he not only led the team to a 26-0 record and back-to-back Central Coast Section Division III championships, but he also posted very impressive numbers: 279 of 373, 5,064 yards, 58 touchdowns and just seven interceptions.
After redshirting in 2002 at Stanford, Edwards played in eight games and started four in 2003. He began the year as the team's second-string quarterback behind Chris Lewis, but after an impressive showing in the season opener vs. San Jose State, he earned the starting assignment for Game 2 at Brigham Young. He remained the team's starter for four games before a shoulder injury against Washington State limited his play for the remainder of the season. He finished the season by completing 77 of 170 passes for 750 yards and four touchdowns, but was also intercepted nine times.
Edwards was Stanford's starting quarterback in 2004 despite missing the final two games due to a shoulder injury and being knocked out of two others.
He still started the first nine games of the year and threw for 1,732 yards and nine touchdowns while completing 149 of 274 passes (54.4 percent), but was also picked off 11 times.
Edwards started all 11 games and threw for a career-high 1,934 yards as a junior in 2005, completing 168 of 268 (62.7 percent) passes with 17 touchdowns and just seven interceptions to earn the team's Most Valuable Player award. He showed his toughness that year, as he played through hand, thumb and shoulder injuries.
A right shoulder injury in the 2005 season finale against Notre Dame limited Edwards' participation in 2006 spring drills, but he went on to start the team's first seven games before being sidelined by his foot injury. He went on to complete 94 of 156 passes (60.3 percent) for 1,027 yards, six touchdowns and six interceptions. He also averaged 152.0 yards per game in total offense.
In 35 games with the Cardinal, Edwards started 31 times. He hit on 487 of 865 attempts (56.3 percent) for 5,429 yards, 36 touchdowns and 33 interceptions. He carried 226 times for 199 yards (0.9 avg) and two scores. In 1,091 plays, Edwards collected 5,628 yards in total offense and also caught one pass for a six-yard loss. He compiled a 10-21-0 record as a starter.
ANALYSIS
Positives:
Has a tall, thick frame with good muscle thickness, broad shoulders, well-defined chest and arms, thick thighs, long calves, minimal body fat (8.5 percent) and room on his frame to add more bulk … Mobile passer with the ability to throw the ball running out of the pocket … Lacks great timed speed, but has the body control and balance to avoid defenders on the move and shows the nimble feet to step up in the pocket … High character type who is a leader by example (when he was hurt and missed the final five games of 2006, he helped in coaching the reserve quarterbacks and new starter) … Took a lot of punishment behind a bad offensive line (84 sacks in 31 starts), but is not the type to place blame on others … Very intelligent field general who does a good job of scanning the field, if given a chance to stand tall in the pocket … Plays until the whistle and has the upper body strength to absorb and dish out punishment … Has just adequate quickness, but shows good footwork driving away from center and the pinpoint screen mechanics to move the chains when given time to throw … Can freeze a defender with his play-action fakes and shows good zip on his throws when he takes a three-step drop, sets and throws … Despite his 33 interceptions, he does not force his throws (20 interceptions were the result of passes bouncing off the receivers) … His toughness in the pocket is evident, but he needs to avoid contact more than he has in the past … Shows much better accuracy throwing short to intermediate routes, but also does a good job of throwing the ball down the middle of the field … Quick to learn and retain plays and does a nice job of reading and diagnosing defensive schemes, when given time to scan the field … Throws with good touch when firing to running backs and made marked improvement with his progression reads, as he was quicker at locating his second and third targets the last two years than he did in the past … Maintains balance and drive back from center to stand tall in the pocket … His feet are fundamentally sound (just lacks speed) and he shows good fluidity and footwork … Looks more comfortable operating in the pocket than on the move, as he does a very good job of scanning the field and following through with his throws when given time … Best when going through his progressions and having time to read the defenses … Does a good job of seeing the pre-snap and is adequate to react to the bull rush … Has a proper overhand release and is creative enough to improvise and make the play … Displays a compact over-the-top delivery, has a very smooth motion and when given protection, he is very effective at getting rid of the ball in a timely fashion, doing a much better job of stepping off his front foot to generate consistent ball speed … You can see that Edwards has the ability to control a secondary on deep and intermediate passes and he also shows improved touch working underneath … Gets good placement on his short passes, throwing a catchable ball … Has a good understanding for when to zip the ball, thanks to his improved touch … Can stick the pass into tight areas much better than he did in the past and has good awareness to know when to fire the ball or put touch behind his passes … Throws a tight spiral on intermediate and long tosses, showing good zip and the ability to give his receiver a chance to compete for the pigskin … Tough standing under the pass rush, perhaps realizing that he is not the type that can gain valid yardage with his feet … Has good pocket presence and awareness, doing a nicer job of standing in and delivering under pressure than he did in the past … Since he improved his progression reads, he is much quicker scanning the field to locate secondary targets than he was earlier in his career … Shows good timing throwing over the middle and is a good progression reader with the ability to find his secondary targets … Has a good feel and understanding of the offense and keeps his head on a swivel to make the check downs in time while maintaining poise … You don't see much movement from Edwards as a scrambler, but he does have enough agility to avoid the pass rush when pressured and uses his upper body strength adequately to break arm tackles … When forced to throw on the move, he is better rolling out to his right than to the left hash.
Negatives:
Has some stiffness in his running stride and only adequate ability to roll out and throw … Sometimes make poor decisions trying to escape (does not follow blockers well), but shows good balance and body control stepping up in the pocket … More of a drop-back passer than one that will be effective throwing from the outside hashes … His nagging shoulder injury might need further medical evaluation … Not the type that will flinch on contact, but has taken considerable beatings behind a suspect offensive line and lacks the ideal foot speed and nimbleness to throw on the move … Shows good overall judgment, but when he gets too brave under the pass rush, he will try to force the ball … Gets into trouble when throwing on the move, as he does not always have good vision when unleashing the ball on rollouts … When he throws under duress, he has trouble following through when flushed out of the pocket and occasionally drops to a three-quarter release, as it appears that he will rush the ball at times … Has good velocity on his short and intermediate throws, but sometimes shows a long arc on his deep outs, needing to do a better job of stepping into those tosses … Will get "happy feet", but has only adequate ball security and is prone to fumbling when taking a crunching hit … In 2005, he did not panic behind poor offensive line protection, but is still prone to getting impatient and will rush it and show questionable judgment, as he would lock on to his primary target too long and then have to force things when the play failed to develop … It is evident that he is not elusive and is easily caught at times when trying to run with the ball … Better when standing in the pocket rather than throwing on the move (does not always set his feet well on the outside hash) … Does not have the foot speed to stay away from the quick bull rush and is too slow-footed to threaten down field … Has the size and runs hard, but isn't really deceptive with his fakes and is a little bit of a stiff straight-line runner … Has a long history of injury problems and an earlier career health issue that needs further medical evaluation.
INJURY REPORT
2003: Suffered a right shoulder contusion vs. Washington State (Sept. 27) that forced him to sit out the Oregon and UCLA games … Left the California contest (Nov. 22) with a deep thigh bruise, missing the season finale vs. Notre Dame.
2004: Left the Oregon contest (Oct. 23) after spraining his right shoulder … Re-injured his shoulder on the first play of the second half vs. Arizona State (Nov. 6), missing the next two contests vs. Oregon State and California.
2005: Missed most of the Cal-Davis game (Sept. 17) with a right hand contusion … Left the Oregon State game (Nov. 12) in the third quarter after being hit by linebacker Keith Ellison, suffering a left thumb sprain … Suffered a neck/right shoulder stinger when he was sacked by defensive tackle Brandon Mebane at the start of the third quarter vs. California (Nov. 19) and left the Notre Dame contest the following week when he re-injured his shoulder at the start of the third quarter after being sacked by defensive end Victor Abiamiri.
2006: Because of a lingering right shoulder injury, Edwards was limited in spring drills … Sat out the final five games of the season vs. Arizona State, Southern California, Washington, Oregon State and California and missed the final three quarters of the Arizona contest (Oct. 14) when he suffered a broken bone in his right foot during first quarter action vs. the Wildcats.
AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.86 in the 40-yard dash … 325-pound bench press … 420-pound squat … 300-pound power clean … 30-inch vertical jump … 9-foot broad jump … 32 1/8-inch arm length … 9 3/8-inch hands … Right-handed.
Combine: 4.81 in the 40-yard dash … 1.74 10-yard dash … 2.83 20-yard dash … 4.46 20-yard shuttle … 7.14 60-yard shuttle … Bench pressed 225 pounds 19 times.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Los Gatos (Calif.) High School … One of the premiere recruits in the nation in 2001, Edwards was rated among the top quarterback prospects in the country by every recruiting publication … USA Today ranked Edwards the best passing quarterback in the nation while Student Sports ranked him as the second-best quarterback prospect … Named an All-American by Super Prep, Prep Star, Parade, Student Sports and Tom Lemming's Report, to name a few, and was a member of Prep Star's "Dream Team" and the Student Sports Top 101 squad … ESPN's Tom Lemming named him the seventh-best passer in the nation and the No. 15 overall recruit … Parade ranked him the third-best quarterback in the country, Prep Star ranked Edwards fourth overall in the nation while Super Prep had him ranked seventh at quarterback … Added National Football Foundation Hall of Fame Scholar-Athlete for Santa Clara County honors following his senior season … As a senior, Edwards was named the CCS Player of the Year by the San Jose Mercury News, first-team All-State by Cal-Hi Sports, All-League, DeAnza League MVP and All-CCS … Completed 154 of 213 (72.3 percent) for 2,535 yards, 29 touchdowns and three interceptions during his final year … As a junior, he was named first-team All-League, All-CCS, All-State Underclassman and All-American … Set a state record with a completion percentage of .781 (125 of 160), as he threw for 2,529 yards, 29 touchdowns and just four interceptions … In his junior and senior seasons, he not only led the team to a 26-0 record and back-to-back Central Coast Section Division III championships, but he also posted very impressive numbers: 279 of 373, 5,064 yards, 58 touchdowns and just seven interceptions.
PERSONAL
Political Science major … Born Oct. 30, 1983 … Resides in Los Gatos, California.
Comment woodbuck27:
QB Trent Edwards was selected in Rd. 3 - 92 overall - by the Buffalo Bills.
Five QB's were selected prior to Trent Edwards in this years draft.
In all only 11 of 25 draft eligible QB's were picked in this years draft.
Merlin
05-08-2007, 07:29 PM
TUESDAY, May 8, 2007, 4:32 p.m.
By Tom Silverstein
Packers pass on Stocco
Former University of Wisconsin quarterback John Stocco won't be attending the Green Bay Packers' minicamp next week.
Stocco's three-day tryout last weekend during the team's rookie orientation camp did not lead to a contract offer and Stocco is now on his way to New York for a similar tryout with the Giants, his agent, John Drana said.
"He was disappointed," Drana said. "I think so many times you go in with high expectations. Only so many are selected and hundreds are around. He was disappointed, but he was realistic about it too. Now he'll have to take the long road. He'll keep grinding and stay in the mix and try to get iwith the right team and the right situation at the right time."
Drana said that Packers college scouting director John Dorsey told him that Stocco did an excellent job running the team and learning the system and that if the Packers had a need down the road Stocco would be someone they would consider.
Stocco was one of two quarterbacks who took part n the Packers' rookie camp, sharing the snaps with rookie free agent Jerry Baab of Louisiana-Layfayette. The Packers may be able to get away without signing another quarterback before their minicamp, depending on how much backup Aaron Rodgers can participate.
Starter Brett Favre (ankle) won't take part and Rodgers (broken foot) hasn't been cleared completely. The only other quarterback on the roster is third-stringer Ingle Martin.
That's all anyone needs to know about how an NFL team talks about players to understand that you cannot believe that type of talk about a player. What is he supposed to say? "Stocco, you suck"?
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