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BallHawk
06-03-2007, 01:11 PM
Though it's nothing more than speculation at this point, the Green Bay Press-Gazette tosses an intriguing name into the mix for the position of president of the Packers.

Mike Holmgren.

Holmgren, known lovingly (or otherwise) in football circles as the "Big Show," coached the Packers from 1992 through 1998, leading the franchise to its first Super Bowl win in 29 years. He left in 1999 to become coach and G.M. of the Seahawks. He has since given up the G.M. title (under some duress), but is still the head coach.

It has been believed for a couple of years that Holmgren has been thinking about calling it quits. He has made millions in Microsoft money, and he doesn't need to subject himself any longer to the 12-month grind of coaching. So he could take on what would be a less stressful and demanding job, where he would be somewhat insulated from on-field struggles but at the same time in prime position to claim credit for success.

Other candidates include Titans executive V.P. and General Manager Mike Reinfeldt. Though there's a chance that the Titans would have to give the Packers permission to interview Reinfeldt, since he is in charge of football operations in Tennessee, the fact that the president of the Packers is the top dog in the entire organization, with the power to hire and fire the G.M., likely makes it a vertical move, which by league rule cannot be blocked.

But the Press-Gazette questions whether Reinfeldt is too close to current Green Bay G.M. Ted Thompson. If the decision to dump Thompson needs to be made, could his long-time friend pull the trigger?

Regardless of whether the job goes to Holmgren or Reinfeldt or someone else, it appears that the sudden disqualification of the hand-picked successor to Bob Harlan has opened the door for the team to shift from an executive with no specific football experience to a guy whose name would be recognizable beyond the Wisconsin business community.

Bretsky
06-03-2007, 01:14 PM
Wolf/Holmgren brought us our only title. Holmgren would make a great president IMO.

woodbuck27
06-03-2007, 01:51 PM
Wolf/Holmgren brought us our only title. Holmgren would make a great president IMO.

A real football guy too.

It will never happen.

packinpatland
06-03-2007, 01:55 PM
It'd be hard to keep him (Holmgren) out of the locker room or off the field. :lol:
I agee, Woodbuck,,,,,,,,,it would never happen.............darn it.

HarveyWallbangers
06-03-2007, 01:58 PM
Wolf/Holmgren brought us our only title.

Have you heard of Lambeau and Lombardi?

woodbuck27
06-03-2007, 02:00 PM
But the Press-Gazette questions whether Reinfeldt is too close to current Green Bay G.M. Ted Thompson. If the decision to dump Thompson needs to be made, could his long-time friend pull the trigger?

Comment woodbuck27:

There is that. . . ''where there is smoke there's fire''.

packinpatland
06-03-2007, 02:04 PM
Wolf/Holmgren brought us our only title.

Have you heard of Lambeau and Lombardi?

You knew what he meant :roll: .................in this era.

Bretsky
06-03-2007, 02:29 PM
Wolf/Holmgren brought us our only title.

Have you heard of Lambeau and Lombardi?


Gosh you must be old :lol:
I was not born yet

pbmax
06-03-2007, 03:57 PM
Holmgren's great, wish he could have stayed. He should have got the chance that Sherman did.

But he wasn't a knockout success as a GM. And he has no business-side background in football. And he most certainly has never dealt with a Board of Directors peppering him with questions monthly.

Should not happen. Most likely not going to happen.

swede
06-03-2007, 08:05 PM
Holmgren is a very poor name to toss out.

First, on his end, I thought it was pretty well documented that he and his family do not care overly much for the unique cosmopolitan charms of Green Bay.

Second, on our end, he has too much ego and action in him to want to deal with the political and business headaches that go with the job of president. About a third of the job he'd probably be quite good at. He'd make a fine consultant.

This is a job for someone with huge business savvy, excellent public relations skills, and a particular genius for hiring good football talent and then staying the hell out of the way.

Not staying the hell out of the way is probably what cost Jones his job. (Unless you believe G******'s theory that what cost Jones his job was calling bookies in Vegas while humping the secretaries)

Creepy
06-04-2007, 07:23 AM
This is very easy to figure out. How many ex-NFL head coaches are presidnets of NFL teams? Nada-none-zero-nichts. This is not an accident, it is easy to figure out why. The president has to step back and let his HC and GM make the football decisions. Do you honsetly beleive that an ex-HC with 3 SB appearances would be able to stand back and let the others do the drafting and the FA sigings?

What if the HC & GM want a certain player in the draft, but Holmgren felt that they should take somebody else, do you think he wouldn't make his decision known. Presidents of teams take care of the day to day running and paperwork for an NFL team and get a box to watch the games in. Holmgren could never do that because he would want to be on the field telling MM on how to run the WC offense, and then telling TT on who to extend and who to draft.

MH had a good time in GB and he left. He had no regrets about leaving and I have no regrets in him not returning.

The Leaper
06-04-2007, 08:08 AM
Running the business side of the franchise is not at all akin to running the football operation alone. You have to be able to delegate responsibility and oversee rather than control. Holmgren has very little experience in running a business, and failed miserably in terms of delegation while GM in Seattle. It isn't going to happen.

Holmgren is a COACH...not a GM...not a PRESIDENT/CEO. Anyone who can't figure that out is an idiot.

Fritz
06-04-2007, 08:16 AM
I like Holmgren, but not for that particular job. He doesn't have the qualities others have noted that are necessary.

Cheesehead Craig
06-04-2007, 09:35 AM
This is very easy to figure out. How many ex-NFL head coaches are presidnets of NFL teams? Nada-none-zero-nichts. This is not an accident, it is easy to figure out why. The president has to step back and let his HC and GM make the football decisions. Do you honsetly beleive that an ex-HC with 3 SB appearances would be able to stand back and let the others do the drafting and the FA sigings?

What if the HC & GM want a certain player in the draft, but Holmgren felt that they should take somebody else, do you think he wouldn't make his decision known. Presidents of teams take care of the day to day running and paperwork for an NFL team and get a box to watch the games in. Holmgren could never do that because he would want to be on the field telling MM on how to run the WC offense, and then telling TT on who to extend and who to draft.

MH had a good time in GB and he left. He had no regrets about leaving and I have no regrets in him not returning.

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