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woodbuck27
06-10-2007, 12:48 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=617091

Racine's Barry - stung by a cut block
Team waives lineman more suited to the run

By LORI NICKEL
lnickel@journalsentinel.com

Posted: June 8, 2007

The Green Bay Packers have parted ways with offensive lineman and Racine native Kevin Barry.

Kevin Barry didn't fit into the zone-blocking scheme of head coach Mike McCarthy.

Barry, a five-year veteran, made the team in 2002 as an undrafted free agent out of Arizona and played 59 games, with a handful as a starting tackle.

But Barry was never a good fit for the Packers' zone-blocking scheme when the team changed over a year and a half ago, and he also spent last season out of football after rupturing his left thigh tendon in the May 2006 minicamp.

Barry was released at 4 p.m. Friday and his agent, Russell Wittman, said he immediately began fielding calls from other teams.

"As everybody knows, Kevin Barry is a run blocker, not a zone blocker," Wittman said.

"It kind of worked out because Kevin will get a shot to play for a team that can utilize his strengths."

The Packers also announced that they had signed another draft pick, safety Aaron Rouse, and released offensive lineman Josh Bourke.

General manager Ted Thompson could not be reached for comment.

Barry's injury was painful and his post-surgery rehabilitation required a lot of waiting while on crutches, and then in a brace, for a total of about eight months. But when he did return he committed himself to regaining his strength and watching his weight. Wittman said he was down to around 328 pounds.

After working out mostly in Arizona, Barry said three weeks ago that he had hoped to practice with the Packers in their current organized team activities.

"I can tell I am getting stronger," Barry said in his most recent minicamp interview.

"After not using (my leg) for a certain amount of time, you start losing muscle strength. It took a little time to build that back up."

He also looked in shape and said he had lost some weight.

"It's a good weight; it is better than what I've come in at usually," he said.

But Barry never got on the field and never did the fit the zone-blocking system that the Packers installed when coach Mike McCarthy came on board. Listed by the team once at 332 pounds but probably weighing 10 to 15 pounds more during his playing days in Green Bay, the 6-foot-4 Barry is built more for the power blocking rather than the athletic cut-blocking.

It was hard to hear that he'd been cut, but Barry, who turns 28 in July, will search for a team where he could play to his strengths and maybe even finally land a permanent starting role.

Wittman didn't want to disclose the teams interested in his client.

"I've been pleasantly surprised with the attention we've been getting so far," Wittman said.

"He's disappointed; he feels he put five years of his life into Green Bay. He loves Wisconsin and loves the Packers, but Kevin has known for a while that this could be a reality in them letting him go. He just wants to play.

"I was there (in Green Bay this week) and watching them, they've really moved to a very small, very quick offensive line. And I just don't think it's a good offense for Kevin to be in."

The fact that Barry was even a Packer in the Thompson-McCarthy era was a little odd, anyway.

Thompson fired Barry's former coach, Mike Sherman, who capitalized on Barry's size and mauler strength in the U-71 running package that employed him as an extra tight end.

Then Thompson hired McCarthy and offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski in early 2006. The two set out from the start to make the offensive line a zone-blocking unit that cut-blocks defensive linemen. That type of physically demanding play requires the linemen to move deftly both along the line and forward into the second level, and it also asks the 300-pound players to dive onto the ground for the cut-blocks.

Therefore, the new Packers offensive lineman needed to be fit, athletic and around the 300-pound mark, ideally.

Yet on March 15, Green Bay re-signed Barry - remember it had lost Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle in free agency earlier - even with the imperfect fit. Thompson gave Barry a two year, $2.79 million deal that included a $600,000 signing bonus (his base salary was $625,000 in 2006 and would have been $910,000 this year). That deal also included a roster bonus.

With Barry in minicamp last year, Jagodzinski especially pushed Barry to trim up, but Barry got hurt before he could make the adjustment.

After spending the year on injured reserve, the Packers explored trade possibilities in March to deal Barry for a low draft pick, but nothing materialized.

At tackle, the Packers have Chad Clifton, Mark Tauscher, Tony Moll, Junius Coston and Orrin Thompson;

at guard, they have Jason Spitz, Daryn Colledge, Tyson Walter, Adam Stenavich, Tony Palmer, Pat Murray, Travis Leffew and fourth-round draft pick Allen Barbre.

pittstang5
06-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Well, I think alot of fans knew he wasn't going to make the final cut. I really was hoping that TT could have pulled some kind of trade for the guy. BUT...I imagine the fact that he was injured last year didn't help the cause.

I believe Barry could be a solid RT in the right offense.

Guiness
06-10-2007, 01:58 PM
Pretty amazing that he drew zippo interest on the trade market. 28 yrs old, reasonably seasoned, should be able to step in as a starter or top backup for a lot of teams, never caused trouble...I don't get it :huh:

Patler
06-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Pretty amazing that he drew zippo interest on the trade market. 28 yrs old, reasonably seasoned, should be able to step in as a starter or top backup for a lot of teams, never caused trouble...I don't get it :huh:

There have been a number of reports that he is not yet recovered from his injury.

CaliforniaCheez
06-11-2007, 12:05 AM
1) Barry was not waived. After 4 good years in the league players are cut.

2) Barry can only play RT.

3) His Wonderlic score was 8.

4) He is way behind on conditioning for the season as the injury kept out of training for 8 months.

He could very well be out for a year and a team sign him for next season but not at a high rate of pay. His minimum is much higher than a rookie's.

Patler
06-11-2007, 07:06 AM
1) Barry was not waived. After 4 good years in the league players are cut.


The CBA refers to all players, including those with more than 4 years as being waived:




(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period. If the waivers occur after that time, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club. However, ...

(b) Whenever a player who has finished less than the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.

MJZiggy
06-11-2007, 07:17 AM
Then what's the difference between being waived and being cut?

Patler
06-11-2007, 07:34 AM
Then what's the difference between being waived and being cut?

Essentially, teams just terminate their claim to rights in the player, by whatever term you want to use. The CBA refers to it as being "waived". What happens with the player depends on his years of service, and when it is in the football year:

1. Players with less than 4 years - Whenever it occurs, the player goes through the waiver system and teams can claim him and the contract he had. If he clears waivers he is free to negotiate a new contract with anyone.

2. Players with more than 4 years - If it occurs between Feb 1 and the trade deadline, the player is free to sign with anyone. No one has the right to claim him. If it occurs after the trade deadline, he goes through waivers and can be claimed. If claimed, the player can declare himself a free agent at the end of the year if he had a no trade clause in his contract. If he didn't have a no trade clause he must stay with the claiming team one additional season, after which he can declare himself a free agent.


As a side note - The CBA also refers to any and all players as being "released" but there is no difference in the procedure or result. You can really use the terms interchangeably.

I believe "cut" is just the historical slang term used for it, as in "cutting ties" with the player.

Creepy
06-13-2007, 02:17 PM
Waived players are under contract and the team that claims him from waivers take over the contract (excluding the bonus). The team with the worst record has first chance to claim that individual off waivers and before he is considered a FA he must get passed all 31 teams on the waiver wire.

If a team cuts or releases a player he is a FA, regardless of his year in the NFL. He is allowed to sign a new contract with any team that wants him and also has the right to go to the team he wants.

Most players are cut/released during TC and pre-season. These players are FA and can go to any team. After the season starts teams will waive players due to picking up another player or the return of a player from suspension or the PUP.

A player must clear waivers before he can be assigned to the practice squad (for final rosters in pre-season). That is why GB did not place Sanders on the Pracftice Squad his rookie year, as they thought another team would claim him before he cleared waivers. The only exception is a FA, they can be picked up and assigned directly to the practice squad.

Also players on the practice squad can be claimed by otherteams as long as they are placing them on the active roster, the player has the right to stay with his current team or go to the new one. GB got Herron from the Steelers back in 2005 off their practice squad. Had herron decided to stay with sthe Steelers, he wouldn't have played, but would have received a SB ring for being a member of the team.

Patler
06-13-2007, 04:47 PM
Waived players are under contract and the team that claims him from waivers take over the contract (excluding the bonus). The team with the worst record has first chance to claim that individual off waivers and before he is considered a FA he must get passed all 31 teams on the waiver wire.

If a team cuts or releases a player he is a FA, regardless of his year in the NFL. He is allowed to sign a new contract with any team that wants him and also has the right to go to the team he wants.

Most players are cut/released during TC and pre-season. These players are FA and can go to any team. After the season starts teams will waive players due to picking up another player or the return of a player from suspension or the PUP.



Not exactly. Per the Collective Bargaining Agreement:


Section 1. Release:
(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period. If the waivers occur after that time, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club. However, if such player is claimed and awarded, he shall have the option to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the League Year in question if he has a no-trade clause in his Player Contract. If such player does not have a no-trade clause and the Player Contract being awarded through waivers covers more than one additional season, the player shall have the right to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent as set forth above at the end of the League Year following the League Year in which he is waived and awarded.

(b) Whenever a player who has finished less than the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers, the player’s Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club.

Fritz
06-15-2007, 09:18 AM
I think it is harder to trade a guy than we often think. If teams know a guy isn't a fit, like Barry, they can simply wait until he's waived and try to sign him to a cheaper deal than the one he had. Besides, Barry, even when regulars were hurt on the o-line, never was chosen as a starter.

woodbuck27
06-15-2007, 02:58 PM
Pretty amazing that he drew zippo interest on the trade market. 28 yrs old, reasonably seasoned, should be able to step in as a starter or top backup for a lot of teams, never caused trouble...I don't get it :huh:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR

Updated:06/15/2007

Kevin Barry might not be unemployed for long.

Barry was released by the Green Bay Packers last Friday and is expected to meet with some teams over the next couple of weeks.

According to the Racine Journal-Times, the Cardinals and Houston Texans are among the teams not only looking for veteran offensive linemen, but could use a guy like Barry, who fits into their power-run blocking schemes.