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Kiwon
06-13-2007, 01:53 AM
This is a child predator story. It is unspeakably outrageous - 2 men molesting helpless children and then using their images to trade in kiddie porn. :evil: :evil: :evil:
Don't read this unless you want your blood pressure to rise.
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Therapist Pleads Guilty to Molesting Brain-Damaged Patients
Wayne Albert Bleyle Admitted to Eight Counts of Forcible Lewd Acts Upon a Child and Four Counts of Exhibiting a Minor in Pornography.
By ALLISON HOFFMAN
San Diego -- June 12, 2007—
A former respiratory therapist pleaded guilty Tuesday to molesting young, brain-damaged patients at the hospital where he worked for 25 years.
Wayne Albert Bleyle, 55, admitted to eight counts of forcible lewd acts upon a child and four counts of exhibiting a minor in pornography.
Under a plea agreement, Bleyle would serve 45 years and eight months in prison. With credit for good behavior, he would serve at least 85 percent of that sentence. He had faced a sentence of up to 165 years if he had been convicted in a trial.
Bleyle, who worked at Rady Children's Hospital in San Diego, appeared gaunt and pallid in a loose-fitting navy suit. He answered procedural questions in a firm, quiet voice.
Bleyle admitted abusing four of his patients, including a 2-year-old girl. Two of the children have since died, according to prosecutors.
Superior Court Judge Kenneth So denied bail and scheduled sentencing for July 25.
Bleyle was arrested in March 2006 after Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents traced child porn Internet traffic to his home computer in suburban Santee. Prosecutor Laura Gunn told a judge then that Bleyle targeted children who were "the most brain-damaged, most comatose, most nonverbal - children who could never say anything about it."
Bleyle confessed to federal agents that he molested "countless" disabled patients, the prosecutor told the court last year.
"One of the agents who interviewed him said, 'How many kids are we talking about?"' Gunn said. "The defendant, who was in New York at the time looking out at the snow, looked out at the snow and said, 'How many snowflakes are there out there?"'
Prosecutors accepted the plea in part to spare one girl, a teenage stroke victim, from testifying before a jury, Gunn said. The girl said in preliminary hearings last year that Bleyle touched her buttocks three years ago while she was in a convalescent ward.
"This is absolutely one of the worst child molestation situations imaginable," Gunn told reporters outside the courtroom. Bleyle's attorney, Casey Donovan, declined to comment after the hearing.
Bleyle worked at the well-regarded hospital for 25 years, including 10 at the convalescent facility. Former colleagues have described him as an engaging, hardworking therapist who volunteered for extra shifts, reassured parents and served as a mentor to new hires.
Affidavits filed in support of search warrants indicate that investigators found images on Bleyle's computer and cell phone that he had created himself using children at the hospital. His arrest prompted the hospital to ban camera phones in the convalescent unit and require that curtains around patients be left open most of the time.
Barely a month after Bleyle's arrest, another hospital employee was charged with molesting a comatose toddler patient after being traced through Internet file-sharing networks. Christopher Alan Irvin, a 32-year-old nurse at the time, pleaded guilty in September and was sentenced to 14 years and eight months in prison.
packinpatland
06-13-2007, 06:36 AM
My nightmare.
Kiwon
06-13-2007, 09:28 AM
Government can protect the public be removing these predators from society, but how do you punish them commensurate to their crimes?
Forget rehabilitation. Go straight to the punishment.
Seriously, would death be too harsh as a punishment for those who victimize the most vunerable among us?
Society is so sex-crazed as it is. You can get your jollys with anything on two or four legs these days. But when does society draw a line and send a message to perverts that if you victimize two-year olds, toddlers, and the comatose then society will ensure that you will have Hell to pay?
Forget the free speech and privacy BS. The most "progressive" among us are usually the worst offenders.
Did you see the former head of Virginia's ALCU was convicted of child porn?
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The complaint states that federal investigations into child pornography websites revealed that "Charles Rust-Tierney has subscribed to multiple child pornography website over a period of years."
As recently as last October, the complaint alleges, "Rust-Tierney purchased access to a group of hardcore commercial child pornography websites."
Rust-Tierney admitted to investigators that he had downloaded videos and images from child pornography websites onto CD-ROMs, according to the complaint.
The videos described in the complaint depict graphic forcible intercourse with prepubescent females. One of the girls is described in court documents as being "seen and heard crying", another is described as being "bound by rope."
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Rust Tierney coaches various youth sports teams in and around Arlington, Virginia, according to court documents.
In the past, Rust-Tierney had argued to allow unrestricted Internet access, including pornography, in public libraries in Virginia, writing, "Recognizing that individuals will continue to behave responsibly and appropriately while in the library, the default should be maximum, unrestricted access to the valuable resources of the Internet."
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On June 1, 2007, he pleaded guilty to one count of receipt of child pornography. His sentencing is scheduled for Sept. 7, 2007. He could face up to 20 years in prison, but his attorneys and prosecutors have agreed to recommend a sentence of 8 to 10 years.
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BallHawk
06-13-2007, 10:45 AM
There are some real sick bastards in this world. However, we cannot kill them. I don't think they choose to be in the world of child pornography. I think there is just something wrong with them that they have a compulsion to view the kiddie porn.
Nonetheless, people like this should be locked away for a good amount of time.
packinpatland
06-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Lobotomies sound good to me.
MadtownPacker
06-13-2007, 11:32 AM
There are some real sick bastards in this world. However, we cannot kill them. I don't think they choose to be in the world of child pornography. I think there is just something wrong with them that they have a compulsion to view the kiddie porn.
Nonetheless, people like this should be locked away for a good amount of time.BH you talk a lot of big talk about how drug addicts should go to the slammer when they are only hurting themselves most of the time. Yet these kinda scumbags do unrepairable damage that these kids will never forget and might even turn them into a sexual predator and you think they deserve any mercy?? :x
Kill them and kill them all because if I ever found out someone was doing something like this to someone I care about that is exactly what I will do. Then I get to go to prison for life or get the death sentence.
That's justice for your ass.
BallHawk
06-13-2007, 03:24 PM
Mad, do you think these pedophiles choose to be sick? Do you think they choose to delve into a matter which is not only morally wrong, but illegal? It is a sick compulsion that is brought on by childhood trauma or just a twisted compulsion.
Doing drugs is a choice. Most people that are born don't have a compulsion to do drugs. They choose to do drugs. Whether it be peer pressure or poverty, it is their choice.
You have to be mentally twisted to look at a toddler being tied up by a rope. There's no way you can tell me that's "normal behavior."
I am not condoning these lewd and sickening acts, but I am simply stating that you cannot place all the fault on their side. It is no different then being gay. People don't choose to be gay. Why would you choose to be exiled and ostracized by society?
MJZiggy
06-13-2007, 03:54 PM
It doesn't matter WHY pedophiles do what they do. The fact is they do it. You can't compare it to being gay, because gay people are dealing with other consenting gay people, not little kids. This is a crime because it has a victim. Are you going to tell the victim that the perpetrator is just sick in the head? Once someone does something like this they need to be stopped. I'm all for castration (though the lobotomy was a nice option as well).
packinpatland
06-13-2007, 04:27 PM
BH, can't the same logic be used then in all heinous crimes? Who in their right mind commits rape, murders, or even arson?
No, a line needs to be drawn. Any crime involving a victim, regardless of age, needs to have serious consequences.
Please, don't compare being gay, to anything we're talking about here. Whether it's a choice, genetics, whatever, it's between consenting adults. The key word here being 'consenting'.
BallHawk
06-13-2007, 04:49 PM
Just to establish something.
In my post I was referring to guys that are involved in child pornography.
However, I believe there should be 0 tolerance for perpetrators that go the extra step and physically molest a child. That is disgusting and punishment should be severe and swift.
MJZiggy
06-13-2007, 04:52 PM
But the ones involved in child pornography are the ones creating the market for the pornographers. If you're willing to look at the pictures, they have to come from somewhere...
packinpatland
06-13-2007, 04:56 PM
I wonder how many molesters started out as just 'lookers'?
What did they do before the ineternet?
Freak Out
06-13-2007, 04:58 PM
People do the sickest shit to get their rocks off. I got no problem with kink but it had better be between two adults who consent to do unto one another not some kid in a hospital bed.
One single bullet.
Tarlam!
06-13-2007, 05:00 PM
Kill them and kill them all because if I ever found out someone was doing something like this to someone I care about that is exactly what I will do.
I feel the same way, and up until Lords of the Rings, I would have wholeheartedly agreed.
Today,I no longer support the death penalty. Society is judged by it's justice systms. Only God can create life, only God should be able to decide who lives and who dies. That's my philosophy.
But, we have a first obligation to protect the "weakest" members of our society, starting with our children (our future) and our pensioners (our past).
Predators must be removed from society. My ideal solution was portrayed in that film starring Kurt Russell (Escape from NY) where Manhatten had been turned into a Jail and the inmates had to fend for themselves. No escape. Mo mercy. No Parole. No "therapy". No visitation rights. No contact with the outside world. The End.
packinpatland
06-13-2007, 05:06 PM
My ideal solution was portrayed in that film starring Kurt Russell (Escape from NY) where Manhatten had been turned into a Jail and the inmates had to fend for themselves. No escape. Mo mercy. No Parole. No "therapy". No visitation rights. No contact with the outside world. The End.
The good folks of Manhattan might not like handing over their pricey digs so it can be turned into a 'Jail'.
Kiwon
06-18-2007, 08:28 AM
Now for a little good news.......
'We Will Hunt These Predators'
Updated: 14:06, Monday June 18, 2007
Police have smashed a global internet paedophile ring and rescued 31 children from abuse. Some of the vile sex attacks were shown live online.
Videos and pictures were swapped online. Around 700 suspects - 200 from the UK - were identified in 35 countries during the 10 month operation but some are still being pursued.
Offenders used a web chatroom called Kids The Light Of Our Lives to swap photos and videos of horrific abuse.
Sky News Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt said it could well be the biggest internet paedophile operation ever mounted in the UK.
It was led run by the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre.
Its CEO, Jim Gamble, said: "As predators become increasing sophisticated in their use of the Internet for exploiting young people, so too do the techniques we use to detect them.
"We will continue to work alongside local police forces and our law enforcement partners worldwide, to track and prosecute those who prey on young victims and to protect greater numbers of children from harm."
Ringleader Timothy Cox, 27, from Buxhall, near Stowmarket, will be sentenced later today.
He used the online identity Son of God and hosted the network.
Police found 75,960 indecent and explicit images on his computer and evidence he had supplied 11,491 images to other site users.
Cox admitted nine counts of possessing or distributing images of children.
More to follow...
MadtownPacker
06-18-2007, 09:14 AM
Mad, do you think these pedophiles choose to be sick? Do you think they choose to delve into a matter which is not only morally wrong, but illegal? It is a sick compulsion that is brought on by childhood trauma or just a twisted compulsion.
Doing drugs is a choice. Most people that are born don't have a compulsion to do drugs. They choose to do drugs. Whether it be peer pressure or poverty, it is their choice.
You have to be mentally twisted to look at a toddler being tied up by a rope. There's no way you can tell me that's "normal behavior."
I am not condoning these lewd and sickening acts, but I am simply stating that you cannot place all the fault on their side. It is no different then being gay. People don't choose to be gay. Why would you choose to be exiled and ostracized by society?I don't really care what their excuse is. They do what they do so they have to pay. If not, every sick bag of shit is gonna say "childhood trauma or just a twisted compulsion".
Last I checked gay folks have sex with other gay folks who consent. If not it is called rape and is also a crime.
Mad, do you think these pedophiles choose to be sick? Do you think they choose to delve into a matter which is not only morally wrong, but illegal? It is a sick compulsion that is brought on by childhood trauma or just a twisted compulsion.
Doing drugs is a choice. Most people that are born don't have a compulsion to do drugs. They choose to do drugs. Whether it be peer pressure or poverty, it is their choice.
You have to be mentally twisted to look at a toddler being tied up by a rope. There's no way you can tell me that's "normal behavior."
I am not condoning these lewd and sickening acts, but I am simply stating that you cannot place all the fault on their side. It is no different then being gay. People don't choose to be gay. Why would you choose to be exiled and ostracized by society?I don't really care what their excuse is. They do what they do so they have to pay. If not, every sick bag of shit is gonna say "childhood trauma or just a twisted compulsion".
Last I checked gay folks have sex with other gay folks who consent. If not it is called rape and is also a crime.
A-fuckin-men Mad. These absolute wastes of skin need to be killed. To say its a compulsion tells me that you dont have kids of your own. My compulsion is to look up everyone on the sex offenders list and ritualistically kill them but I dont. Why? Cause its a crime. These guys cannot be rehabilitated. If Darwinism was still a viable option, they would have been killed off already. I have nothing but contempt for sex offenders. They are driven by feelings of power and domination. They arent good for anyone.
MadtownPacker
06-18-2007, 12:05 PM
They are driven by feelings of power and domination.
That there is the bottom line. Nothing else is gonna give them their jollies.
BH - I know we are all coming down on you hard so I have to ask, has anyone close to you ever been victimized in this manner? I know you aren't siding with sexual predators but you seem to have some type of pity for them. Do you think they would have pity on you if you where one of the kids?.
BallHawk
06-18-2007, 04:55 PM
I lived 2 doors down from a sex offender. He didn't commit any physical crimes, but he was busted for child pornography and, I think, lewd acts. He had to move because he was so close to the school, but he was a perfectly normal guy. Diehard Raiders fan, smart, (he worked for HP) just a real likable guy. I remember before he left he went to some people's homes and apologized for what he had done. I remember him saying that he was going to get help and that he didn't choose this. He said that he felt horribly looking at child porn, but it became a daily routine.
I'm not defending pedophiles, and I can't stress this enough. I'm simply stating that you can't group all of them as being "sick, twisted beings who need to be banished from the earth. Of course, not all offenders are as normal as my neighbor was, but not all of them are as horrible as people think.
packinpatland
06-18-2007, 05:11 PM
Not to make light, but isn't this an oxymoron?
"....but he was a perfectly normal guy. Diehard Raiders fan...."
BallHawk
06-18-2007, 08:22 PM
Not to make light, but isn't this an oxymoron?
"....but he was a perfectly normal guy. Diehard Raiders fan...."
Not all Raiders fans are absolute lunatics... :wink:
falco
06-18-2007, 08:52 PM
Not to make light, but isn't this an oxymoron?
"....but he was a perfectly normal guy. Diehard Raiders fan...."
Not all Raiders fans are absolute lunatics... :wink:
hmm...are all child molesters raiders fans?
Kiwon
07-26-2007, 08:58 AM
Update......this piece of human debris gets a 45 year sentence.
He admitted that he molested half of the patients he treated over a period of 10 years. This guy was a married man and yet he abused these helpless boys and girls, including a 2 year old girl. :evil: :evil: :evil:
With apologies to death penalty opponents here, this man has forfeited his right to live. Society doesn't need to keep supporting his existence through a long incarceration to the tune of roughly $30,000 a year. That money would be better spent on helping provide affordable and proper facilities for the families of seriously ill children.
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From the AP story: http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Jul26/0,4670,TherapistPatientMolestation,00.html
"On Wednesday, Bleyle didn't turn to look as a succession of parents and family members of victims spoke at his sentencing hearing. Some wept; others shook with anger.
As part of a plea deal, Bleyle, 56, was sentenced to 45 years and eight months in prison for molesting five of his young, disabled patients and for taking pornographic photographs of others. Prosecutors said he targeted those who were comatose, brain-damaged or too disabled to talk.
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He was arrested last year after investigators tracing pornography through the Internet found tens of thousands of pornographic images on his computer, including photographs he took of himself abusing his patients.
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Investigators identified just four of Bleyle's victims: three girls and a boy who were all younger than 14 when the molestations took place. Two of the children have since died. Investigators were never able to put a name to one of the victims, a 2-year-old girl found in pictures.
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MJZiggy
07-26-2007, 09:04 AM
The good news here is that I've heard they really hate child molesters in prison and this guy is the nastiest of the nasty. He'll be somebody's bitch for the next 45 years and you might not even have to worry about giving him the death penalty. Some offended lifer with a young daughter may take care of that for you...
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