Where is Abdul Hodge?

[Fritz]

Does anybody know? From what I gather, he was a major disappointment last year. This was not, in my estimation, due to a lack of speed (I think they knew that when they drafted Hodge) but his poor attitude. Is he not attending because he's hurt, or is he just not attending?

I am majorly disappointed in this guy, whom I thought was going to be a real gamer in the NFL. I thought he had an AJ Hawk kind of attitude, not an Antuan Edwards kind of attitude.

[PackerBlues]

From what I understood, he was no good in coverage. A fast, hard hitting guy that just could not be counted on to cover a WR or TE when needed. No coverage skills.

[The Leaper]

The fact he dropped in the draft last year was a sign that there must have been some flags raised on the kid to many teams. He seemed to play hard and do well at Iowa, but apparently he didn't come across well to a lot of people...because he fell 20-30 spots from where most people figured he would be selected.

I was hoping that he would surprise...but also figured he might not cut it. He wasn't going to take jobs away from Hawk or Barnett, so his chances of playing regularly were remote. Clearly, he doesn't seem to have accepted that reality very well. Whether it is the lack of playing time or the money...he doesn't look like a future piece of the puzzle at this time.

[Tarlam!]

Frakly, I am not huge on Barnett. I know he can be decent, I doubt he can be Urlaer.

I truly believe, Hodge cab be better than Urlacher. So, I was saddended that we re -signed Barnett. I wish Hodge had had the same oortunity to start that Barnett had.

[run pMc]

IIRC, Hodge has a knee injury and is recovering from it. I think MM said Hodge will be held out of OTA's and would be ready to go for training camp.


I truly believe, Hodge cab be better than Urlacher
I disagree. Hodge doesn't have the size, speed, or pass coverage ability (such as it is) that Urlacher has. Hodge is a two-down LB at best...and based on his showing vs. SEA, he may not even be that. I think he's got talent. I'm disappointed in how he played last year and am hoping he turns it around.

[Tarlam!]

1. I disagree.
2. Hodge doesn't have the size, speed, or pass coverage ability (such as it is) that Urlacher has.
3. Hodge is a two-down LB at best
4. Based on his showing vs. SEA, he may not even be that.

Thanks for reading my post.

1. No problem, we disagree.
2. You're probably right, but Hodge has a motor.
3. No, I disagree with this. It remains to be seen.
4. That's hefty to judge his ability based on his only start.

Barnett was shit his first 6 starts, but showed flashes. IMO, he never lived up to those flashes. I ponder what Hodge might look like if he had started from day one.

[pittstang5]

Granted this is pure speculation on my part, but I think the Seattle game was a true test on Hodge's ability, to see if he could adequately replace Barnett. I'm not saying that Barnett was on his way out, but he was injured and his injury was the type that could hinder his job. (not having any use of one of your hands makes it harder to tackle someone)

Anyway, Hodge failed...miserably. The staff then knew that Hodge...AT LEAST AT THAT TIME...is a liability and needs more work. Enter Barnett and the club. To me, I got the impression that the staff felt more comfortable with an injured Barnett then they did with a healthy Hodge. If Hodge would have excelled in the Seattle game, Barnett may have been sidelined for the rest of the year.

Hodge may turn it around, but looking at what transpired last year, the staff was not comfortable with Hodge in the middle.

[Fritz]

IIRC, Hodge has a knee injury and is recovering from it. I think MM said Hodge will be held out of OTA's and would be ready to go for training camp.


I truly believe, Hodge cab be better than Urlacher
I disagree. Hodge doesn't have the size, speed, or pass coverage ability (such as it is) that Urlacher has. Hodge is a two-down LB at best...and based on his showing vs. SEA, he may not even be that. I think he's got talent. I'm disappointed in how he played last year and am hoping he turns it around.

Okay, so at this point it's an injury thing. I get it.

Let's see what the guy does in camp.

[Tarlam!]

Pittstang, how was A-Rod for you in the garbage time he played? Are you more encouraged by our future QB that our reserve MLB?

Barnett was lost his first 6 games. Deer-in-the-Headlights lost, and he was the nominated starter (including the reps with the firsts) from day one.

Hodge also has the DITH look, cause his colledge game was actually good enough to go higher then he did.

Put another way, if I (Tarlam!) were to run a football, I would much rather face Barnett than Hodge.

[woodbuck27]

Pittstang, how was A-Rod for you in the garbage time he played? Are you more encouraged by our future QB that our reserve MLB?

Barnett was lost his first 6 games. Deer-in-the-Headlights lost, and he was the nominated starter (including the reps with the firsts) from day one.

Hodge also has the DITH look, cause his colledge game was actually good enough to go higher then he did.

Put another way, if I (Tarlam!) were to run a football, I would much rather face Barnett than Hodge.

Hey Tarlam come on now.

You are high on Abdul Hodge like alot of us once were; but we are seeing that he may fit a 3-4 scheme better than a 4-3. He operates as possibly only a two down LBer Vs the run with his straight ahead tackling style and give little to us in coverage.

That means he may not cut it in Green Bay or the NFL unless the system suits the man.

Saying that Abdul Hodge will be better than Brian Urlacher has no basis objectively Tarlam.

On what basis could any of us attest to that prediction, given that Urlacher is one of the premiere defensive players in the NFL today and possibly it's best MLBer?

[Tarlam!]

Saying that Abdul Hodge will be better than Brian Urlacher has no basis objectively Tarlam.

On what basis could any of us attest to that prediction, given that Urlacher is one of the premiere defensive players in the NFL today and possibly it's best MLBer?

I said he COULD, by saying I THINK he will be better than Urlacher.

I have zero premise. I just believe it. I am in no way Harvey or WISTy, people who know the game.

My balls just say to me "Hodge is the real deal".

[woodbuck27]

My balls just say to me "Hodge is the real deal".

Yup. . . think I'm getting you now.

Your balls have that antenna quality Ehh !??

That sounds like something straight out of a Stephen King Novel Tarlam.

Hardly anything I'd recommend you use to judge talent. :)

[Tarlam!]

Hardly anything I'd recommend you use to judge talent. :)

Well, in my business life, my balls dictate what we do. I do pretty well, in business.

[woodbuck27]

Hardly anything I'd recommend you use to judge talent. :)

Well, in my business life, my balls dictate what we do. I do pretty well, in business.

What are you?

A porn star?? :)

[Tarlam!]

[What are you?

A porn star?? :)

No comment. :oops:

[MJZiggy]

At least now you know your fall back career if big business doesn't work out for you... :P

[Rastak]

Hardly anything I'd recommend you use to judge talent. :)

Well, in my business life, my balls dictate what we do. I do pretty well, in business.

What are you?

A porn star?? :)



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA........


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Woody the early favorite for One Liner of the Year....

[mission2]

Put another way, if I (Tarlam!) were to run a football, I would much rather face Barnett than Hodge.

Not me. At least I could outrun Hodge. :lol:

[The Shadow]

I was mildly surprised when Desmond Bishop was drafted.
He seems to be an Abdul Hodge clone.
Maybe the Packers sensed something with Hodge and drafted Bishop
to be that type of player/fit that role - as a replacement.

[Deputy Nutz]

Hodge was a rookie last year who got one game with extended playing time. He didn't look real good, but factor in he was injured here and there for a a couple of weeks during the season. I don't think he is going to be an All-Pro but I don't think he is going to be Torrence Marshall either.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I was mildly surprised when Desmond Bishop was drafted.
He seems to be an Abdul Hodge clone.
Maybe the Packers sensed something with Hodge and drafted Bishop
to be that type of player/fit that role - as a replacement.

I agree. That was the one head-scratcher that I had with the picks this year.

[Bretsky]

At least now you know your fall back career if big business doesn't work out for you... :P


Being a porn star would be fun; if I didn't have a job or a good marriage I'd enjoy auditioning

[Merlin]

Here we go again with the Barnett bashing. Statistically, sorry to say, he is right up there with Urlacher. The only thing Barnett doesn't have that Urlacher does, was playig for a shitty defense and being the only one that could play early on. That's how he got his name. It sure isn't his play because he gets blown up as much as if not more then any other MLB in the NFL. Sure, he makes tackles, covers well and moves to the ball well. Barnett's only drawback was his OVER pursuit, not his tackling, not his coverage skills and not his speed or size. Last season he did not over pursue very much if at all.

The media crowned Urlacher a god when the Bears defense was aweful. Barnett sorry to say hasn't had the media up his ass since day one like Urlacher. Like it or not, Hodge will NEVER beat out Barnett, thusly, according to your own logic, he will NEVER be like Urlacher.

[Fritz]

Saying that Abdul Hodge will be better than Brian Urlacher has no basis objectively Tarlam.

On what basis could any of us attest to that prediction, given that Urlacher is one of the premiere defensive players in the NFL today and possibly it's best MLBer?

I said he COULD, by saying I THINK he will be better than Urlacher.

I have zero premise. I just believe it. I am in no way Harvey or WISTy, people who know the game.

My balls just say to me "Hodge is the real deal".

Wow. My balls speak to me only of matters other than football.

But I admire your balls' ability to multi-task. You could, conceivably, revve up for some "sexytime" while simultaneously evaluating football players.

No wonder you do well in business.

[Tarlam!]

OK. Enough about balls.

I just have a kool aidey like of Hodge.

[Patler]

OK. Enough about balls.

I just have a kool aidey like of Hodge.

Interesting, Tarlam. Why?

I saw him play in only a handful of college games, and certainly had no reason to focus on him at the time. Saw little of him last year for the Pack, because he played very little. BUT... I am developing an uneasy feeling about him.

Why? Two reasons.

1. Any backup LB that gets pulled of special teams for a team that is not real good at special teams raises a question in my mind. LBs should be sort of made for STs. Their skills are just what you look for to fill a lot of the special teams spots. Especially a linebacker who is supposed to be a physical, tackling machine. Now if he were a big, run stuffing LB, I could see it. But Hodge is small for a linebacker. He's more like a safety. SHould have been a big contributer on STs.

2. OK, this is a bad reason, but, have you seen anything positive about him since last training camp. Anything this off season? Anything from OTAs? Any fluff piece at all? Any positive comment from a coach about his effort, training, desire?


I have a feeling he may just fade away, in favor of bigger and/or faster linebackers who can contribute on STs.. Maybe it will happen even this season.

[Tarlam!]

Mabe I'm still high on the post draft reports that said we maybe got the steal of the draft with Hodge....

Maybe I just want that to be true. But, I also saw his interviews, I took a shine to the guy.

If he is in a nose dive, I hope he pulls out of it.

[Patler]

Mabe I'm still high on the post draft reports that said we maybe got the steal of the draft with Hodge....

Maybe I just want that to be true. But, I also saw his interviews, I took a shine to the guy.

If he is in a nose dive, I hope he pulls out of it.

I hope you're right and I'm wrong. There really isn't anything to get excited about among the linebackers behind the starters. Somebody needs to step up. Reserve linebackers need to find ways to contribute, either pushing for starting positions or on special teams. Hodge was inactive last year, even when healthy, because both Taylor and White were ST performers. He will have no future if that continues with guys like White, Bishop, Havner, Simpson or Johnson ahead of him on game days.

[run pMc]

From what I remember on the pre-draft reports, Hodge was not as athletic as Greenway but was able to make just as many plays/tackles because he had good instincts and a motor. I think it's fair to say Hodge has talent; I'd like to see him play well this year.
It's true SEA was one game and that's not enough to determine whether he can play or not. Patler does raise a couple of interesting points...if he was pulled from ST, that's not a good sign. You'd expect a 3rd round LB to play more & make more noise (in a good way) than he has thus far. I was glad when TT picked him last year, but now I'm worried. I hope Hodge comes around.

[Fritz]

Mabe I'm still high on the post draft reports that said we maybe got the steal of the draft with Hodge....

Maybe I just want that to be true. But, I also saw his interviews, I took a shine to the guy.

If he is in a nose dive, I hope he pulls out of it.

I hope you're right and I'm wrong. There really isn't anything to get excited about among the linebackers behind the starters. Somebody needs to step up. Reserve linebackers need to find ways to contribute, either pushing for starting positions or on special teams. Hodge was inactive last year, even when healthy, because both Taylor and White were ST performers. He will have no future if that continues with guys like White, Bishop, Havner, Simpson or Johnson ahead of him on game days.

Not true Patler, not true. How can you not be excited about Johnson and Simpson, two athletic, physical dope-smoking fiends?

They both appear to have good size and speed and were passed over merely because their off-the-field pasttime involves smoking the leaves of certain plants indigenous to the Americas. Kind of unlikely they'll get into any nightclub trouble - they'd be too mellowed out.

I for one am very excited about the backup linebackers this year, if those two fellas make it.

[wist43]

Surprised they'd pick up Johnson and Simpson... both are reported to have 1st day talent, but 10 cent heads - guys like that rarely stick.

As for Hodge, as I've been saying, he's simply miscast in the Packers system. He's a base down player, and that's it... I think he's going to always be limited in space.

That said, in college he was known for being very instinctive - and, I can vouch for that. Every time I say him play in college, he was w/o a doubt the best defender on the field for Iowa.

He diagnosed plays instantaneously, delivered hard hits, was a very solid tackler, and could take on and shed... hopefully we'll see some of those traits come thru this year; but, I don't think there's any denying that he was a disappointment last year.

In the end, he belongs in the middle in a 3-4.