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woodbuck27
06-15-2007, 01:55 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10225498

Top 50 players: In with the new, out with some of the old

June 14, 2007

By Pete Prisco
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer

The NFL can sometimes be cruel to veteran players, even former stars.

We see it all the time. These players are revered for years, only to see their play fall off a little, and then have fans cry loudly for them to be replaced.

Get faster. Get younger. Get better.

When I put together the CBS SportsLine.com Top 50 rankings of the NFL players each summer, I'm guilty of the same thing.

If you're aging and sliding, or injured and non-productive, or even loafing too much (that's you, Randy Moss), there's a good chance you're being dropped down or even out of my list.

I'm always looking for fresh faces.

This year, there are 19 players on my Top 50 who weren't on the list last year. Some are veteran players who had good seasons, but most are young, rising players who belong, a couple who were even left off the Pro Bowl teams last December because they didn't have name recognition.

That matters little on this list.

That's why young players like Jets safety Kerry Rhodes and Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha are on the list, while guys like Moss and Brett Favre are not.

The weird thing about the big change on the list is that the top hasn't changed. The top six players from my 2006 list remain the same. That means Colts quarterback Peyton Manning at the top followed closely by Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

This is the fourth time Manning has topped the list in the seven years it's been done. In years past, I've been seared for putting him in that spot.

Can anybody argue now?

Brady is just behind him, close I might add, and Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer is just off the pace.

The highest-rated defensive player is Broncos corner Champ Bailey in the fourth spot. He got my vote as the NFL Defensive Player of the Year last season and is the best cover player since Deion Sanders.

The only two newcomers to the Top 10 are Chargers linebacker Shawne Merriman and Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers. They replace Moss and Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis.

Moss falls out after a horrible season, even though when he's focused he's still a top 50 talent. But you at least have to try to get on the list.

Lewis has dropped down to the 32nd spot, but he's not off. Some say he's not even in the top 50 anymore, but I'm not buying that. Neither are Ravens coaches, who insist he's still playing at a high level.

If he falls off this coming season -- don't expect it -- Lewis could fall out of my top 50.

Life can really be cruel to veteran players. The CBS SportsLine.com Top 50 is no different.

Change is swift, especially if the skills begin to erode.

1. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: You'd be hard-pressed to find people -- outside the Boston area, that is -- who would argue about him owning this spot now.

2. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: He's just a hair behind Manning. Look out now, though, with all those receivers on the roster. This could be a special year for Brady.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: He's a sensational all-round weapon. If he plays long enough, he might break all the rushing records.

4. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: He is the best defensive player in the league. You can compare him to Deion Sanders, which is high praise.

5. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: It took him a little while to get going after the knee injury, but he had another big year. He's right below Manning and Brady.

6. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: You can always count on this guy to play at a Pro Bowl level. He's on his way to the Hall of Fame.

7. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: Along with Palmer, they make up the best of the young pass-catching duos in the league. Johnson really elevated his game in the second half of the 2006 season.

8. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Getting 17 sacks in 12 games is dominance. He comes off the edge with force. Is the sack record possible? You bet.

9. Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers: He's only 27, which means he's just now reaching his peak. He has the tools to be a 16-sack guy every year. He can also play the run.

10. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years ago, he was more reputation than production. Not anymore. He is now a dominant middle linebacker.

11. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: One of the class guys in the NFL is also one heck of a player. When he got hurt in the AFC Championship Game loss to the Colts, it really showed up on the defense.

12. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: His numbers were down last year, but he's still one of the most disruptive defensive players in the league.

13. John Henderson, DT, Jacksonville Jaguars: Coach Jack Del Rio said Henderson is the first three-gap tackle he's seen. That's as good as it gets. Why can't he get voted into the Pro Bowl?

14. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: It's too bad he plays in Houston because he doesn't get the due he deserves, especially since he has never really had an option on the other side.

15. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: He showed a lot skeptics -- including this writer -- that he wasn't just a product of the San Diego offense. He really fits with Saints coach Sean Payton's offense.

16. Jason Taylor, DE, Miami Dolphins: The NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2006 can still be a pass-rush force. What's more impressive is how much better he plays the run now.

17. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He's the most complete safety in the league. He has range and can tackle. He's the prototype for the modern safety.

18. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: Playing next to Pat Williams, he's a big reason why the Vikings led the NFL in run defense.

19. Torry Holt, WR, St. Louis Rams: He's a pass-catching machine. For some reason, though, he never gets his due.

20. Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City: For the second consecutive year, he put up huge numbers. He's a big-play threat every time he touches it.

21. Frank Gore, RB, San Francisco 49ers: Gore had his breakout season in 2006. He's a tough, hard-nosed runner who pops with power through the hole.

22. Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals: For the past three years, he has been one of the most underrated players in the league. Now he's a true Pro Bowl player.

23. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: He is such a valuable weapon in the middle of the field that he helps offset the fact the Chargers don't have a go-to receiver.

24. Jammal Brown, T, New Orleans Saints: His move from the right side to the left side was a smooth one. It earned him his first trip to the Pro Bowl. He will be there for a lot of years.

25. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was banged up some last season with a hamstring injury, so he wasn't as explosive as usual. When he's 100 percent, he's lightning fast.

26. Marvin Harrison, WR, Indianapolis Colts: His ticket to the Hall is punched, yet there is no real fall-off in production as he ages.

27. Will Smith, DE, New Orleans Saints: Without him, the Saints defense would be in big trouble. When the opposing offense puts up points, he pins his ears and attacks. He's a force off the edge.

28. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: He's coming off a hamstring injury, but when he's healthy he's a major disrupter inside. The Bears really missed him in the Super Bowl.

29. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: He had his breakout season in 2006 and the Rams expect even more. He's also a great pass-catcher out of the backfield.

30. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: When he and Matt Leinart become more comfortable together, Fitzgerald's numbers will improve. He has the big-play ability all the great receivers need.

31. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He physically dominates defenders. He's a power player who is also pretty good in pass protection.

32. Ray Lewis, LB, Baltimore Ravens: Some scouts say he's lost a step. If he has, he's still the best at his position in the AFC.

33. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: He's not just the other receiver on the Colts offense anymore. He could be the No. 1 wideout on a lot of teams.

34. DeAngelo Hall, CB, Atlanta Falcons: This gambling corner has a knack for the big play. He does get beat once in a while, but that's because he plays a lot of man coverage.

35. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: Some scouts say he didn't play as well with the Vikings as he did with Seattle, but he remains among the top at his position.

36. Lee Evans, WR, Buffalo Bills: He flashed star potential last season and should be even better in 2007. He's one of the rising players on this list.

37. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: The Raiders have great history with corners and this is the next star. He showed shutdown ability last season.

38. Sean Taylor, S, Washington Redskins: This big-hitting safety has the range you like to play the pass. He plays with an attitude.

39. Donovan McNabb, QB, Philadelphia Eagles: McNabb is coming off a major knee injury, so there are still concerns. But he's still one of the better quarterbacks in the league.

40. Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys: It was shame he didn't play in the Pro Bowl last year. He was robbed.

41. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: He is small for the position, but he packs quite a punch. When he returned to the Colts lineup in the playoffs, you could see the impact.

42. Jonathan Ogden, T, Baltimore Ravens: He might not be as good as he was a few years ago, but he's still one of the better left tackles in the game.

43. Ty Warren, DE, New England Patriots: He's the most underrated player in the league. He could be on his way to his first Pro Bowl this season.

44. Kerry Rhodes, S, New York Jets: Most people would be shocked to see him on the list, but he had a Pro Bowl season in 2006. He will get his due this year.

45. Rashean Mathis, CB, Jacksonville Jaguars: He was selected to his first Pro Bowl last season, and the coaches say he's just scratched the surface of his talents.

46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: Even though he's getting up in the years he is still a force in the middle of the field. He's happy now, too, since he received a new contract from the team.

47. Keith Bulluck, LB, Tennessee Titans: With the Titans defense struggling so much, he doesn't get the credit he deserves. The players who face him know how good he plays his position.

48. Marcus Stroud, DT, Jacksonville Jaguars: Were it not for injuries, he'd be much higher on this list.

49. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He's an explosive player who should really benefit from playing under Wade Phillips.

50. Jamal Williams, DT, San Diego Chargers: He's the best run-stuffing nose tackle in the league. He makes it tough to run on the Chargers.

Just missed:

Brian Westbrook, RB, Eagles; Shaun Alexander, RB, Seahawks; Asante Samuel, CB, Patriots; Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers; Luis Castillo, DT, Chargers; Deuce McAllister, RB, Saints; Reggie Bush, RB, Saints; Vince Wilfork, DT, Patriots; Nate Clements, CB, 49ers; Casey Hampton, NT, Steelers; Orlando Pace, T, Rams; Brian Waters, G, Chiefs; Logan Mankins, G, Patriots; Olin Kreutz, C, Bears; Fred Taylor, RB, Jaguars; Mike Strahan, DE, Giants; Julian Peterson, LB, Seahawks.

packers11
06-15-2007, 02:02 PM
34. DeAngelo Hall, CB, Atlanta Falcons

I didn't know it was already April 1st...

OVVERRRRAAAAAAATEEDDDDD

packinpatland
06-15-2007, 02:06 PM
Maybe I read that too fast, but were there ANY Packers on the list????

Other than to say that Favre wasn't?

woodbuck27
06-15-2007, 02:11 PM
Maybe I read that too fast, but were there ANY Packers on the list????

Other than to say that Favre wasn't?

No Packers with good arguments for the following:

Al Harris, Aaron Kampman and Donald Driver, based on their performances of late.

RashanGary
06-15-2007, 02:30 PM
Everyone says Hawk has some physical ceiling that will prevent him from becoming a top tier player. Well, look at the top 20. I don't see too many up there that are physical freaks and I see no reason Hawk, physically, can't be right up there with the best in the league

rpiotr01
06-15-2007, 02:35 PM
First of all, Kevin Williams and Richard Seymour should switch spots. K. Williams is MUCH better than Seymour.

Second:


22....For the past three years, he has been one of the most underrated players in the league. Now he's a true Pro Bowl player.

This should be used to describe Donald Driver.

b bulldog
06-15-2007, 02:43 PM
Give me a break, Bush just missed????? Most overhyped player in the league.

HarveyWallbangers
06-15-2007, 02:45 PM
First of all, Kevin Williams and Richard Seymour should switch spots. K. Williams is MUCH better than Seymour.

Kevin is good, but so is Seymour. Kevin has been kind of inconsistent (mainly due to injury), so I don't think it's a knock to have Seymour higher. Actually, if Pat Williams were 10 years younger, I'd take him over Kevin. He's the guy that really shut down the opposition's running game. He might be the best in the league against the run. Jamal Williams and a couple of others are good also. The only problem with those guys is that they don't give you much on passing downs. Similar to Gilbert Brown in his prime.

The Leaper
06-15-2007, 02:45 PM
Lee Evans...#36? WTF! One 80-1200-8 year is enough to be ranked this high? How many years does Driver have to put up those numbers to get recognized?

Prisco is smoking some funky dope again.

PaCkFan_n_MD
06-15-2007, 02:58 PM
This is the problem with our team, we don’t have any superstars (maybe we have one in the making, who knows). What we need is players that you can look at and say they are the top at their position. I think TT has to now start thinking about trading up in the draft and try to get a stud because we have to many average players and not enough exceptional players. We used to have Favre, but even I can agree that Favre is not elite anymore.

woodbuck27
06-15-2007, 04:38 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9469847

His 2006 list:

Top 50 players: Fleeting moments of glory

May 30, 2006

By Pete Prisco

CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer


The NFL is a cruel business for its players. I've always believed that, which is why players should enjoy it while they can. It goes so fast -- their time in the spotlight is limited, the big-money years coming and going, replaced by the reality that it's over.

That becomes even more evident each summer when I sit down to do the CBS SportsLine.com list of the Top 50 players, something I've been doing the past six years.


Offseason knee surgery isn't expected to slow down Carson Palmer much. (Getty Images)
It's amazing to see the change from one year to the next. Players rise, players fall. Age impacts some, their spot taken by somebody with the vigor of youth. The injured get discarded like a worn-out pair of socks, their perch among the game's elite no longer in their grasp.

Two years ago, the No. 3 player on our list was Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair. The No. 4 player was Kansas City Chiefs running back Priest Holmes.

Want to know where they are on this year's top 50? Scan it all you want. You won't find them.

Injuries and age have sent those two falling like Tom Cruise's popularity. McNair, who might play for the Baltimore Ravens, can still get it done, but he isn't as good as he was in 2004, when he was coming off a co-MVP season.

In 2003, Holmes ran for 1,420 yards and scored 27 touchdowns, earning him the high ranking in our 2004 Top 50. Since then, he has played in a total of 15 games because of injuries and has rushed for 1,343 yards the past two seasons. There's talk he might be forced to retire because of a neck injury.

That's so cruel. That's the NFL.

The flip side is the emergence of young stars, players who have found their way into the top 10, a guy like Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer.

In June 2004, Palmer was coming off a rookie season in which he didn't take one snap. There was no way he could be ranked anywhere close to the top 50.

Two years later, he's the fifth-ranked player in the league, despite suffering a serious knee injury last January.

One thing that hasn't changed is the top-rated player.

For the third consecutive year, Colts quarterback Peyton Manning tops the list. Manning had another outstanding season in 2005, leading the Colts to the best record in the league before they choked away their chance to win a Super Bowl.

Manning remains the game's best player, on his way to becoming perhaps the game's greatest passer. He is certainly on his way to the Pro Football Hall of Fame. The reason he tops this list is simple. It's because he's the answer to this question:

If there was an open draft of all NFL players, who would be the first player taken?

Manning would top most lists.

So he stays at the top, followed closely for the second consecutive year by New England quarterback Tom Brady. They are a strong 1-2, where great quarterbacks should be. Palmer is right behind them, even with the major knee surgery. He's making progress in his rehab and might be there for the season opener.

When they say the NFL chews you up and spits you out, they aren't kidding. The rise can be slow -- McNair and Holmes are proof of that -- but the fall is usually swift.

Fame is fleeting. The NFL reminds of us of that every year, especially when it's time to rate the game's best.

1. Peyton Manning, QB, Colts: A lot of people will argue with this choice, but his remains the most important position. When he finally does win a Super Bowl, he will finally get his due.

2. Tom Brady, QB, Patriots: He had an amazing season in 2005, carrying an offense without a running attack. He is right up there with Manning, just a smidge under him in the ratings.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, Chargers: This is the game's best back and he's an MVP candidate every season. He will be forced to do more now that Drew Brees is gone. Here's hoping they don't beat him up.

4. Champ Bailey, CB, Broncos: There is no better cover corner in the league. He can take away the other team's best receiver. Don't believe the nonsense that he isn't the best at his position. And his position has a premium value to it.

5. Carson Palmer, QB, Bengals: He's coming off knee surgery, which is a concern, but he has made big strides in his recovery. He had an amazing season in 2005 and we can expect many more.

6. Walter Jones, T, Seahawks: He is the game's best offensive lineman. He dominates his opponents and plays light on his feet.

7. Randy Moss, WR, Raiders: He didn't have the type of season many expected in Oakland in 2005, but he is still the league's most explosive receiver. Just ask the opposing defensive backs.

8. Brian Urlacher, LB, Bears: After years of battling the overrated label, he finally played as well as advertised in 2005. He was the leader of that good Bears defense.

9. Chad Johnson, WR, Bengals: He talks a big game, but you have to love the fact he backs it up. This kid is good for the NFL, and he's a great player.

10. Ray Lewis, LB, Ravens: Has he slipped some? Maybe a little, but he's still among the best middle linebackers in the game. He only played six games last season. Watch how well he plays now that the Ravens are back playing the 4-3.

11. Marvin Harrison, WR, Colts: He's getting a bit up in years, but he's still a heck of a receiver. He remains Manning's go-to guy.

12. Richard Seymour, DE, Patriots: He missed time with injuries last season, and it showed up in a big way in the New England defense. He can dominate the line of scrimmage when he's on the field.

13. Julius Peppers, DE, Panthers: He started slow last season, but came on strong. He remains one of the premier pass rushers in the league.

14. Larry Johnson, RB, Chiefs: They used the word bust to describe him a year ago, and now he's a legitimate star. It's funny how things change in a year.

15. Terrell Owens, WR, Cowboys: Despite his off-field issues, he's still among the top offensive threats in the game. I'd take him on my offense any day of the week.

16. Dwight Freeney, DE, Colts: He has a unique ability to disrupt a game. The speed he has off the corner is what makes him so special. His special plays are what have him this high up.

17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Steelers: He made big strides in his second season, and we can expect more this season. He's just behind Carson Palmer on the quarterback pecking order for third place.

18. Clinton Portis, RB, Redskins: He looked much more comfortable in the Redskins offense last season than he did in 2004. Portis is one of the league's most explosive backs.

19. Ed Reed, S, Ravens: He missed six games in 2005 with an injury, but he's healthy again, which isn't good news for opposing QBs. Reed is the league's best safety when healthy.

20. Shaun Alexander, RB, Seahawks: He was the MVP in 2005, quieting some of his critics. Yet there is still a perception that he isn't exactly an elite back. We'll find out now that Steve Hutchinson is gone.

21. Antonio Gates, TE, Chargers: The top tight end in the league is a weapon few teams can handle. The scary thing is that he continues to get better.

22. Steve Smith, WR, Panthers: Smith moved to the elite class of receivers with an amazing 2005. He makes it look easy for a little man.

23. Troy Polamalu, S, Steelers: He became a force for the Steelers defense in 2005. He seemed to be all over the field. He does need to improve in coverage before he moves higher up this list.

24. Marcus Stroud, DT, Jaguars: He's part of the league's best tackle combination with John Henderson. Stroud battled injuries last year, yet still made it to the Pro Bowl. He is a force when healthy.

25. Tiki Barber, RB, Giants: He had an MVP-like season in 2005, but how much more does he have left? The Giants rely on him a lot.

26. Sean Taylor, S, Redskins: He is on the verge of being a superstar. He has range and he can tackle. Watch out for him in 2006.

27. Torry Holt, WR, Rams: When most lists of elite receivers are mentioned, his name isn't among the top guys. That's a mistake. He is a special player.

28. Steve Hutchinson, G, Vikings: Minnesota paid him a ton of money for a guard, but he is the best in the league at his position. He mauls the opposition.

29. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Cardinals: He came into his own last year and expect him to get better as he matures. He has big-time skills.

30. Shaun Rogers, DT, Lions: Playing for a bad team, he doesn't get the attention some others do, but he is a power player in the middle of the Lions defense. He has to be doubled.

31. Jonathan Ogden, T, Ravens: He isn't as good as he was a few years back, but he's still one of the game's best left tackles. If only he played with a mean streak.

32. Donovan McNabb, QB, Eagles: Without a go-to receiver, he didn't play as well in 2005 as he did the year before. Injuries slowed him last season as well. This is a big season for him.

33. Orlando Pace, T, Rams: He remains one of the game's best left tackles. He can overpower an opponent, but he's getting up in years.

34. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Chiefs: This future Hall of Fame player is getting up in years, but he remains one of the league's best. He can still create problems in the middle of the field.

35. Michael Vick, QB, Falcons: Once he improves his passing, he will be higher up this list. That has to happen soon for his team to get to a Super Bowl.

36. Derrick Brooks, LB, Buccaneers: He's getting older, but he's still one of the best linebackers in the game. He's an even better person.

37. John Henderson, DT, Jaguars: Henderson played better than Stroud in 2005 and should have been in the Pro Bowl. He is a load at the point of attack.

38. Kevin Williams, DT, Vikings: He is a dominant force in the middle of the Minnesota line. He is good against the run and the pass. And he's only getting better.

39. Edgerrin James, RB, Cardinals: The Cardinals hope he has some good years left, but how many is the question. He's still a good back, but not nearly as good as some think.

40. Simeon Rice, DE, Buccaneers: He had 14 sacks last season, which shows he can still get after the passer. He remains a heck of a player in his 11th season.

41. Al Wilson, LB, Broncos: Wilson is a nasty tackler who brings a ferocious attitude to the defense. He plays the game the way it's supposed to be played.

42. Steven Jackson, RB, Rams: He wasn't used right by the previous regime, but under coach Scott Linehan look for him to put up huge numbers. This is the next star runner, which is why he is this high.

43. Shawne Merriman, LB, Chargers: He had 10 sacks as a rookie and that's just the start. This kid will be a disrupter for 10 years coming off the edge.

44. Brett Favre, QB, Packers: Is he as good as he has been in the past? No, but he didn't have a lot to work with last year. He can still be an effective quarterback.

45. Jonathan Vilma, LB, Jets: This tackling machine has quickly become a force in the middle of the Jets defense. It's too bad his team isn't that good.

46. Jason Taylor, DE, Dolphins: Taylor continues to play at a high level, getting 12 sacks in 2005. He has improved greatly as a run player, too.

47. Anquan Boldin, WR, Cardinals: Playing opposite Fitzgerald, Boldin gives the Cardinals the best one-two receiving duo in the league. He has two seasons over 100 catches in his first three. That's special.

48. Michael Strahan, DE, Giants: Now late in his career, he trimmed his body into shape and had one of his best seasons in 2005. He is still a force at his left end spot.

49. Adrian Wilson, S, Cardinals: If he were on any other team, he'd be considered among the top defensive players. If the Cardinals win this year, he'll get his due.

50. Osi Umenyiora, DE, Giants: He had 14½ sacks last season to finish second in the league. He is just now coming into his own as a player, which is scary.

Just missed:

Mike Peterson, LB, Jaguars; Takeo Spikes, LB, Bills; Todd Heap, TE, Ravens; Willie Roaf, T, Chiefs; Brian Dawkins, S, Eagles; Trent Green, QB, Chiefs; Andre Johnson, WR, Texans; Hines Ward, WR, Steelers; Cadillac Williams, RB, Buccaneers; Ken Lucas, CB, Panthers.

Bretsky
06-15-2007, 05:45 PM
Everyone says Hawk has some physical ceiling that will prevent him from becoming a top tier player. Well, look at the top 20. I don't see too many up there that are physical freaks and I see no reason Hawk, physically, can't be right up there with the best in the league

AMEN; GOOD POINT

Bretsky
06-15-2007, 05:46 PM
Lee Evans...#36? WTF! One 80-1200-8 year is enough to be ranked this high? How many years does Driver have to put up those numbers to get recognized?

Prisco is smoking some funky dope again.

Evans is a very good talent IMO; he's a lot better than the stats he achieves with the Bills QB

The Leaper
06-16-2007, 12:24 PM
Evans is a very good talent IMO; he's a lot better than the stats he achieves with the Bills QB

Evans has ONE DECENT YEAR under his belt. I agree he is a great young talent...but he isn't proven enough yet to be given a top 50 ranking. Maybe after this season, but not before.

How can you justify putting Evans at #36 and not mention Roy Williams (who has production roughly mirroring Evans) or Terrell Owens (how the hell is he not a top 50 player after posting 13 or more TDs in 6 of the last 9 years???) or Anquan Boldin (two 100 catch seasons and three 1200+ yard seasons)?

In a couple words...you can't. The fact that Owens isn't on the list merely is evidence of how stupid Prisco really is.

Deputy Nutz
06-16-2007, 02:46 PM
This is the reason I stopped paying attention the media hype of the NFL. This asshole hasn't sat down and watched half of these players much less the other 1500 or so players that suit up in the NFL. I don't even know how a person could even formulate a list like this. What is it based on? stats, pro bowls, all-pro? I guess I don't understand how Larry FitzGerald makes the list. Compare him to Donald Driver, he hasn't shit in this league yet this dimprick has him rank based on what he could do with Matt Lienart at QB.

Rastak
06-16-2007, 05:02 PM
This is the reason I stopped paying attention the media hype of the NFL. This asshole hasn't sat down and watched half of these players much less the other 1500 or so players that suit up in the NFL. I don't even know how a person could even formulate a list like this. What is it based on? stats, pro bowls, all-pro? I guess I don't understand how Larry FitzGerald makes the list. Compare him to Donald Driver, he hasn't shit in this league yet this dimprick has him rank based on what he could do with Matt Lienart at QB.


If I was drafting up a team right now I'd take Fitzgerald over Driver every time. Don't get me wrong, I think Driver is a pretty damn good reciever, but watch Fitzgerald play. He's pretty talented and needs a QB to step up.

Bretsky
06-16-2007, 05:16 PM
This is the reason I stopped paying attention the media hype of the NFL. This asshole hasn't sat down and watched half of these players much less the other 1500 or so players that suit up in the NFL. I don't even know how a person could even formulate a list like this. What is it based on? stats, pro bowls, all-pro? I guess I don't understand how Larry FitzGerald makes the list. Compare him to Donald Driver, he hasn't shit in this league yet this dimprick has him rank based on what he could do with Matt Lienart at QB.


If I was drafting up a team right now I'd take Fitzgerald over Driver every time. Don't get me wrong, I think Driver is a pretty damn good reciever, but watch Fitzgerald play. He's pretty talented and needs a QB to step up.


I'd agree with this. Love Driver, but I'd take Fitzgerald every day

Oscar
06-16-2007, 05:43 PM
My take on Driver....He has been kind of a one man show.. Who started opposite of him that other teams really had to respect?? I think Fitzgerald has a guy lining up across the line that is pretty good..I could be wrong...I'm posting this without any statistical support.. Maybe Fitzgerald has been a one man show as well.... Just thought I'd join in on the fun... :D

HarveyWallbangers
06-16-2007, 05:56 PM
This is the reason I stopped paying attention the media hype of the NFL. This asshole hasn't sat down and watched half of these players much less the other 1500 or so players that suit up in the NFL. I don't even know how a person could even formulate a list like this. What is it based on? stats, pro bowls, all-pro? I guess I don't understand how Larry FitzGerald makes the list. Compare him to Donald Driver, he hasn't shit in this league yet this dimprick has him rank based on what he could do with Matt Lienart at QB.

If I was drafting up a team right now I'd take Fitzgerald over Driver every time. Don't get me wrong, I think Driver is a pretty damn good reciever, but watch Fitzgerald play. He's pretty talented and needs a QB to step up.

I'd agree with this. Love Driver, but I'd take Fitzgerald every day

I'd agree that I'd take him in your scenario. Driver is a lot older. However, what are these rankings based on? If it's based on production and who has been the better player or was the better player last year, then Driver gets the nod. Bottom line; Larry has one 1000+ yard season in his three seasons--while Driver has had three consecutive 1200+ yard seasons (which included one where Walker was the featured receiver). If it's based on potential, than Larry Fitz is the choice. I guess I don't have a quibble either way. I'd probably take Larry Fitz also, but Driver is still vastly underrated. He just does everything well, but doesn't wow anybody apparently. I think his athleticism is the most underrated aspect. People act like he's slow, but I don't remember him getting caught from behind, he has some crazy juke moves, and he's a world-class leaper.

Rastak
06-16-2007, 06:00 PM
This is the reason I stopped paying attention the media hype of the NFL. This asshole hasn't sat down and watched half of these players much less the other 1500 or so players that suit up in the NFL. I don't even know how a person could even formulate a list like this. What is it based on? stats, pro bowls, all-pro? I guess I don't understand how Larry FitzGerald makes the list. Compare him to Donald Driver, he hasn't shit in this league yet this dimprick has him rank based on what he could do with Matt Lienart at QB.

If I was drafting up a team right now I'd take Fitzgerald over Driver every time. Don't get me wrong, I think Driver is a pretty damn good reciever, but watch Fitzgerald play. He's pretty talented and needs a QB to step up.

I'd agree with this. Love Driver, but I'd take Fitzgerald every day

I'd agree that I'd take him in your scenario. Driver is a lot older. However, what are these rankings based on? If it's based on production and who has been the better player or was the better player last year, then Driver gets the nod. Bottom line; Larry has one 1000+ yard season in his three seasons--while Driver has had three consecutive 1200+ yard seasons (which included one where Walker was the featured receiver). If it's based on potential, than Larry Fitz is the choice. I guess I don't have a quibble either way. I'd probably take Larry Fitz also, but Driver is still vastly underrated. He just does everything well, but doesn't wow anybody apparently. I think his athleticism is the most underrated aspect. People act like he's slow, but I don't remember him getting caught from behind, he has some crazy juke moves, and he's a world-class leaper.


I think they are based who is the better guy to have RIGHT NOW....my guess anyway. I certainly won't badmouth Driver.

Patler
06-16-2007, 06:03 PM
My take on Driver....He has been kind of a one man show.. Who started opposite of him that other teams really had to respect?? I think Fitzgerald has a guy lining up across the line that is pretty good..I could be wrong...I'm posting this without any statistical support.. Maybe Fitzgerald has been a one man show as well.... Just thought I'd join in on the fun... :D

Ya, Fitzgerald has been pretty much a one-man show! :lol:

mraynrand
06-16-2007, 06:29 PM
Quick glance shows just three QBs on the entire list, including 'just missed' players. Is that an indication of a QB poor league or downplaying a QBs importance. Just thinking about it briefly, I'd have to argue the former - there are a lot of sucky QBs playing in the NFL right now.