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PackerBlues
06-26-2007, 02:12 PM
As soon as I got settled down in my new place in Muscoda, I contacted the local Cable company, Mediacomm, and ordered cable TV and internet service. They gave me an install date about 3 weeks away.
The day they were supposed to install everything, I was given a 5 hour window for the installer to show up.....somewhere between noon and 5pm. At that time, I was working 3rd shift, and since I did not want to miss the installer knocking on my door, I set my alarm for a little before noon, and began waiting. Around 6:30 at night, the installer calls me complaining about how its getting dark, and how he wants to reschedule. Considering I had already waited a couple of weeks for this appointment, not to mention that I stayed up all day.....I was furious, and told him that he either hooked it up that night, or not at all. He came and did the installation.

After the installer finished up and left, I ended up calling in sick to work, I had not gotten nearly enough sleep, and decided to do some on-line gaming. Within a few hours however, my internet went out. I made a service call, and two days later, they got my signal strength back up, high enough for me to enjoy my high speed internet again.

It seems though, that about every other month since then, I have had to call to complain about my internet going out. Each time, the person I talk to on the phone wants to try to tell me that the problem is on my end, and every time, they try to say its my modem. (The modem that they provided "went to shit" about two weeks after the initial installation)
Every tiime, I have had to tell them that from "day one", I have had poor signal strength, and it became very frustrating over time that I would have to keep talking to someone who was obviously reading from a piece of paper about how I need to reset my modem.

This last week, my internet went out again. I had been using a 3 way splitter for months, without any problem, but knowing that in the past, it has always been a problem with signal strength, I took the splitter out, and was able to get a strong enough signal to use my internet .......off and on. I called Mediacomm, and set up an appointment for a tech to come out and look things over. Two days later, he shows up, dinks around, and has my internet working.........for about 2 hours after he had left. Again, I called Mediacomm, and again, had to put up with being told that I should unplug my modem for 30 seconds and blah blah blah. I explained that I had already done that, and that my modem was not the problem, that the problem has always been the signal strength. This first person I talked to acted like he could really care less, and so I asked him to put his supervisor on the phone. His supervisor started in with the same crap about my modem, so I again explained that I have had to make at least 5 service calls in the last 8 months, and that it has always been a problem with signal strength. This supervisor refused to listen, and started giving me shit about my modem again. I then asked for his supervisor.

The last "Supervisor" I talked to, "Abdul", could barely be understood, he again started asking me about my modem, and finally, I said "Ya know what Abdull, I have had it with this bullshit, the problem is not my fucking modem, and I am sick and tired of your people ignoring my complaints about the poor signal strength I am getting". I asked to speak to Abdull's supervisor, but he explained to me in his broken english that I could not talk to his supervisor, because of my language. I have to admit, that my language did get progressivly worse, due to the amount of time that I had to spend "ON Hold", while waiting to talk to the previous idiots. So, I told Abdull, "Fine, I have had it, disconnect my tv and internet.....I will find a different provider."

That is when Abdul said that he should inform me that their was a service outage in my area. I do not recall ever blowing up on anyone over the phone the way I did with Abdull. Had the very first person I talked to, simply said that there was an outage in the area, I simply would have said ok, and waited for service to come back on. Instead, I had spent nearly an hour on the phone with these idiots, with most of that time being on hold. Not only did I call Abdull every name in the book, I am pretty damned sure that I may have invented a few new ones to call him as well.

This little story has turned out to be a lot longer than I had intended, but if any of you have a better one that may make me feel better about my situation, I would sure like to hear about it.

BallHawk
06-26-2007, 03:46 PM
I have Comcast (formerly Road Runner) and, even though we have outages about once every month or two, they are very efficient and helpful in fixing the problem. One guy stayed on the phone for two hours with me to help me get everything adjusted.

Freak Out
06-26-2007, 05:12 PM
I use one of the few local service providers, using a bundle that includes local, long distance, and cable TV. I pay a bunch of $$$ for it but really never have a problem. Internet speed is ok and the digital phone service is great (over the cable network) but I hate having to pay for the TV part of it. It costs an extra $20 for crap I get OTA HD!
Starting this summer the City has contracted http://www.metrofi.com/ to offer "free" citywide wireless (you can pay to get rid of the adverts) and I for one cannot wait. I'll pay the $$$ if the service is good. But that is the big question. OPF...you have any comments on this group? They have service in Portland.

Freak Out
06-26-2007, 07:22 PM
U.S. lags behind other nations in broadband speeds
A recent survey has found that the U.S. is behind many other nations in broadband speed, access, and affordability


By Linda Rosencrance, Computerworld, IDG News Service

June 25, 2007

The U.S. is lagging behind other industrialized nations in the availability and use of high-speed broadband connections according to a report released today by the Washington-based Communications Workers of America.

The report, based on aggregated data from nearly 80,000 broadband users, found that the median real-time download speed in the U.S. is 1.9 Mbps, compared with 61Mbps in Japan, 45Mbps in South Korea, 17Mbps in France, and 7Mbps in Canada.

The report is based on data collected through the speed test at SpeedMatters.org, a CWA project launched last September "to help bridge the digital divide and keep America competitive by encouraging the government to adopt national policies to bring about universal, affordable high-speed broadband access for all Americans, no matter where they live." The CWA is a labor union with a membership of more than 700,000 in fields like telecommunications, media, manufacturing, health care, and aviation.

According to the report, the U.S. is 16th in the world in deployment and availability of high-speed networks.

"Speed defines what is possible on the Internet. Speed determines whether we will have the 21st century networks and communications necessary to grow our economy and jobs," said CWA President Larry Cohen. "It's clear that other nations -- all of our economic competitors, in fact -- have made the decision to promote true high-speed networks. The longer we delay, the more we put our economic growth at risk."

The CWA said it supports many of the provisions in the Broadband Data Improvement Act, a bill introduced in May by Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii). The legislation would require the collection and evaluation of data on broadband deployment, an upgraded definition of "high speed," and grant programs for states and local communities to conduct their own broadband mapping.

"The first step in an improved broadband policy is ensuring that we have better data on which to build our efforts," Inouye said at the time. "In a digital age, the world will not wait for us. It is imperative that we get our broadband house in order and our communications policy right. But we cannot manage what we do not measure."

The CWA report also ranks individual states based on average Internet download connection speeds. The state with the fastest connection speed is Rhode Island, at 5.011Mbps, followed by Kansas at 4.167Mbps, New Jersey at 3.68Mbps, New York at 3.436Mbps, and Massachusetts at 3.004Mbps. The states ranking at the bottom are Wyoming at 1.246Mbps, Iowa at 1.262Mbps, West Virginia at 1.117Mbps, South Dakota at 0.825Mbps, and Alaska at 0.545 Mbps.

That means that it would take 15 seconds to download a 10MB file in Rhode Island and nearly two and a half minutes to download the same file in Alaska, the CWA report found.

The voluntary speed test was conducted online at SpeedMatters.org between September 2006 and May 2007. Most of the people who took the test had either a DSL or cable modem connection. Because 30-40 percent of Americans still use a dial-up connection, the median speeds in the report were higher than if dial-up users had also participated, the report said.

In May, U.S. Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet, held a hearing on draft legislation to address broadband mapping and data collection in the U.S.

Markey said at the time that the current data-collection methods used by the Federal Communications Commission are "inadequate and highly flawed." He said that according to the FCC, a single broadband subscriber in a certain ZIP code area could indicate that the entire ZIP code area has broadband availability, even if the sole subscriber is a business and not a residential consumer. Such interpretations could result in inaccurate measurements of broadband availability and use, Markey said.

He also said that the federal Telecommunications Act compels the FCC to assess the nationwide availability of "advanced telecommunications capability," which Congress defined as having "high speed" capability. However, he said, the FCC defined "high speed" in 1999 as meaning 200Kbps. Markey said the draft bill proposes increasing the definition tenfold to 2Mbps.

Markey also said that the U.S. lags behind other nations when it comes to cost of broadband access. He said speeds of 50Mbps, which are not available to residential consumers in this country, are available to Japanese consumers for roughly $30 per month. U.S. consumers typically pay $20 for about 1Mbps service and $30 to $40 for about 4Mbps service.

MadtownPacker
06-26-2007, 07:42 PM
Just move to a 3rd world country where no one owns a computer. Then you can have all the bandwidth to yourself. :pc:

Partial
06-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Verizon is coming to the rescue. For 50 dollars a month :(

Naked DSL cannot get here fast enough.

BallHawk
06-26-2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the article, Freak Out. Interesting how we lag behind some countries I would assume that we would be higher then. I expected South Korea and Japan, but Canada, too? That's no disrespect to Canada, but we should be ahead of them.

GBRulz
06-27-2007, 09:41 AM
I have a bundled deal from AT&T. I'm happy with their service, but their billing is absolutely horrible. When I used to work for them that was the #1 complaint from businesses...their billing.

retailguy
06-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the article, Freak Out. Interesting how we lag behind some countries I would assume that we would be higher then. I expected South Korea and Japan, but Canada, too? That's no disrespect to Canada, but we should be ahead of them.

I'm holding Woody back, but you damn well better start running! NOW! :wink:

BallHawk
06-27-2007, 01:01 PM
I'm holding Woody back, but you damn well better start running! NOW! :wink:

He's already after me. Today I received a mysterious package of Labatt Blue in the mail. I was wary and tested it on a squirrel. It died instantly.

You'll never get me alive, Ed. Never. :wink:

pittstang5
06-27-2007, 06:54 PM
I have Verizon FIOS. Wicked fast and never had any problems.

digitaldean
06-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I have RoadRunner and for the most part, it's been great.

1 real problem outage, but eventually got it rectified. I know I'd like it a bit cheaper than $50/month, but I am very leery of AT&T. Have a co-worker who has called AT&T several times regarding the billing screwups they make.

Can't complain, a buddy of mine lives in the country and has to be $70/month for DirecWAY (satellite broadband), slower and isn't that great on streaming media or uploading files (i.e., FTP'ing Photoshop files to printers/magazines).

Merlin
06-29-2007, 10:32 AM
Do all ISP's suck?

In a word, YES.

I have Charter cable and it's bandwith is patchy at best. You can tell when everyone in the neighborhood is online that's for sure. Of course that could be because I was a smartass who refuses to pay what they want for their 1M service at the time. When I signed up, I signed up for their lowest speed which at the time was 256K. Since that time, I have automatically been upgraded from 256K to 1.5M because that is the lowest speed that they offer in my area. Now it appears that the lowest they offer is 3M so I am sure at some point my service will be upgraded to that. The internet at my house has always run just fine with 5 computers attached to it with up to 5 people surfing at the same time. IMO, get the lowest offered because you don't really need anything more then that in your house, even if you work from there which I do at times.

Scott Campbell
06-29-2007, 01:51 PM
Comcast cable has been close to flawless for 2 and a half years.

Tyrone Bigguns
06-29-2007, 06:13 PM
Wireless baby, the way to go.