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GrnBay007
07-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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NFC
1) Who is Arizona's most indispensable player?

50.5% Matt Leinart
29.8% Anquan Boldin
9.9% Edgerrin James
8.4% Adrian Wilson
1.4% Karlos Dansby

2) Who is Atlanta's most indispensable player?

44.0% Michael Vick
19.5% DeAngelo Hall
15.8% Alge Crumpler
15.8% Warrick Dunn
4.9% Keith Brooking

3) Who is Carolina's most indispensable player?

69.5% Steve Smith
24.8% Julius Peppers
4.2% Jake Delhomme
0.8% Mike Wahle
0.8% Kris Jenkins

4) Who is Chicago's most indispensable player?

88.9% Brian Urlacher
4.1% Devin Hester
2.7% Tommie Harris
2.2% Lance Briggs
2.1% Olin Kreutz

5) Who is Dallas's most indispensable player?

34.6% DeMarcus Ware
30.0% Tony Romo
19.9% Roy Williams
10.6% Terrell Owens
5.0% Flozell Adams

6) Who is Detroit's most indispensable player?

38.6% Roy Williams
33.1% Calvin Johnson
16.8% Jon Kitna
9.3% Shaun Rogers
2.2% Jeff Backus

7) Who is Green Bay's most indispensable player?

67.3% Brett Favre
13.1% Aaron Kampman
12.6% A.J. Hawk
5.0% Charles Woodson
2.1% Chad Clifton

8) Who is Minnesota's most indispensable player?

42.1% Steve Hutchinson
25.8% Kevin Williams
13.2% Antoine Winfield
10.8% Bryant McKinnie
8.1% Pat Williams

9) Who is New Orleans's most indispensable player?

83.6% Drew Brees
12.0% Reggie Bush
2.8% Deuce McAllister
1.0% Will Smith
0.6% Jammal Brown

10) Who is New York's most indispensable player?

33.7% Michael Strahan
29.3% Eli Manning
22.6% Jeremy Shockey
7.9% Antonio Pierce
6.4% Brandon Jacobs

11) Who is Philadelphia's most indispensable player?

45.2% Brian Westbrook
39.7% Donovan McNabb
10.3% Brian Dawkins
3.5% Jevon Kearse
1.2% Shawn Andrews

12) Who is San Francisco's most indispensable player?

81.5% Frank Gore
11.2% Alex Smith
3.2% Nate Clements
2.8% Larry Allen
1.3% Michael Lewis

13) Who is Seattle's most indispensable player?

57.8% Shaun Alexander
23.5% Matt Hasselbeck
13.7% Walter Jones
2.9% Lofa Tatupu
2.1% Julian Peterson

14) Who is St. Louis's most indispensable player?

63.1% Steven Jackson
24.0% Torry Holt
10.4% Orlando Pace
1.4% Will Witherspoon
1.0% Leonard Little

15) Who is Tampa Bay's most indispensable player?

36.7% Derrick Brooks
25.2% Ronde Barber
20.9% Carnell Williams
11.2% Simeon Rice
6.0% Joey Galloway

16) Who is Washington's most indispensable player?

44.7% Clinton Portis
28.3% Santana Moss
13.8% Sean Taylor
7.5% Chris Samuels
5.6% Chris Cooley

Total Votes: 7,570

AFC

1) Who is Baltimore's most indispensable player?

42.7% Ray Lewis
28.8% Ed Reed
15.9% Steve McNair
8.1% Jonathan Ogden
4.5% Willis McGahee

2) Who is Buffalo's most indispensable player?

32.5% Lee Evans
26.5% J.P. Losman
22.8% Aaron Schobel
14.0% Marshawn Lynch
4.3% Donte Whitner

3) Who is Cincinnati's most indispensable player?

87.8% Carson Palmer
8.6% Chad Johnson
2.0% Rudi Johnson
0.8% Willie Anderson
0.7% Deltha O'Neal

4) Who is Cleveland's most indispensable player?

28.3% Kellen Winslow
28.0% Braylon Edwards
27.2% Jamal Lewis
10.2% Kamerion Wimbley
6.3% Ryan Tucker

5) Who is Denver's most indispensable player?

80.9% Champ Bailey
11.9% Jay Cutler
3.2% Javon Walker
2.5% Tom Nalen
1.5% D.J. Williams

6) Who is Houston's most indispensable player?

41.9% Andre Johnson
24.0% Matt Schaub
21.8% DeMeco Ryans
8.5% Mario Williams
3.7% Dunta Robinson

7) Who is Indianapolis's most indispensable player?

94.0% Peyton Manning
2.2% Marvin Harrison
1.9% Bob Sanders
1.0% Joseph Addai
0.9% Dwight Freeney

8) Who is Jacksonville's most indispensable player?

25.7% Marcus Stroud
24.3% John Henderson
23.9% Byron Leftwich
14.8% Rashean Mathis
11.4% Mike Peterson

9) Who is Kansas City's most indispensable player?

86.7% Larry Johnson
9.6% Tony Gonzalez
2.0% Damon Huard
0.8% Patrick Surtain
0.8% Brian Waters

10) Who is Miami's most indispensable player?

53.4% Jason Taylor
17.8% Ronnie Brown
14.9% Zach Thomas
10.7% Trent Green
3.1% Joey Porter

11) Who is New England's most indispensable player?

95.3% Tom Brady
1.6% Richard Seymour
1.2% Tedy Bruschi
1.0% Laurence Maroney
0.9% Matt Light

12) Who is New York's most indispensable player?

41.2% Chad Pennington
24.7% Jonathan Vilma
22.9% Thomas Jones
9.2% D'Brickashaw Ferguson
2.0% Kerry Rhodes

13) Who is Oakland's most indispensable player?

51.9% JaMarcus Russell
16.2% Derrick Burgess
14.0% Warren Sapp
9.8% Michael Huff
8.2% Shane Lechler

14) Who is Pittsburgh's most indispensable player?

34.7% Troy Polamalu
28.4% Ben Roethlisberger
19.4% Hines Ward
13.9% Casey Hampton
3.7% Alan Faneca

15) Who is San Diego's most indispensable player?

88.0% LaDainian Tomlinson
5.4% Antonio Gates
3.1% Philip Rivers
2.5% Shawne Merriman
1.0% Marcus McNeill

16) Who is Tennessee's most indispensable player?

89.0% Vince Young
4.3% Keith Bulluck
3.2% Kevin Mawae
2.5% Chris Brown
1.0% Randy Starks

Total Votes: 7,555

mraynrand
07-05-2007, 02:48 PM
As Ron Wolf would say: "Graveyards are filled with indispensible men"

Guiness
07-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Kellen Winslow?????

Lurker64
07-05-2007, 03:10 PM
Interesting how Kansas City's most indispensable player is going to hold out over a contract dispute and Oakland's most indispensable player has never played a down in an Oakland Raiders uniform.

packinpatland
07-05-2007, 03:36 PM
11) Who is New England's most indispensable player?

95.3% Tom Brady
1.6% Richard Seymour
1.2% Tedy Bruschi
1.0% Laurence Maroney
0.9% Matt Light


He's a one man team!!!!! :wink:

LL2
07-05-2007, 03:47 PM
I will agree that Kampy has proven his worth. In time Hawk will too.

wist43
07-05-2007, 07:25 PM
Brett Favre is far and away GB's most important player. No other player should even be in the conversation.

What would preseason predictions look like if Aaron Rodgers were listed as the starter??? I doubt even the Kool-Aid drinkers would be picking much above 6-10.

RashanGary
07-05-2007, 08:20 PM
If Rodgers was starting I'd say 6-10. Good guess Wist :)

With Favre I've been saying 9-7.

RashanGary
07-05-2007, 08:23 PM
Without Kampman I'd say 7-9. Without Hawk I'd say 7-9. Without Kampman, Hawk or Favre I'd say 1-15.

HarveyWallbangers
07-06-2007, 12:16 AM
Without Kampman I'd say 7-9. Without Hawk I'd say 7-9. Without Kampman, Hawk AND Favre I'd say 1-15.

Changed.

RashanGary
07-06-2007, 07:10 AM
That's what I meant. Thanks.

The Leaper
07-06-2007, 08:18 AM
Without Favre, this team would be LUCKY to win 4 games.

To put it mildly...this offense can't punch it into the endzone despite having one of the most prolific scoring QBs leading the offense due to a lack of weapons and an inexperienced OL. If we didn't have Favre, this team wouldn't muster more than 10 points a game.

BlueBrewer
07-06-2007, 08:35 AM
How sad is it that Minnesota's most indepensible player is a gaurd.

Harlan Huckleby
07-06-2007, 08:57 AM
Brett Favre is far and away GB's most important player. No other player should even be in the conversation.

What would preseason predictions look like if Aaron Rodgers were listed as the starter??? I doubt even the Kool-Aid drinkers would be picking much above 6-10.

Favre is just an average starting QB now. (Well, still the best QB in NFC-North, but its a weak division for QBs.) If Rodgers is not good enough to win, they should have drafted a new one. I think Ted Thompson, at least, thinks that the Packers can win regular season games with Rodgers.

Tarlam!
07-06-2007, 10:57 AM
...I think Ted Thompson, at least, thinks that the Packers can win regular season games with Rodgers.

I think Favre is way better than average, but I do agree with the quote I highlighted.

The thing is, will Brady Quinn amount to a HOFer? Realistically, that's the only QBI wonder if we should have nabbed. Even though Leinert was on the board the previous year, too, I wanted Hawk badly.

I think Harrell is a great pick, but Brady was sitting right there...

mngolf19
07-06-2007, 12:32 PM
How sad is it that Minnesota's most indepensible player is a gaurd.

Why is that sad? I think OL and DL are the most important positions on a football team.

mngolf19
07-06-2007, 12:33 PM
Kellen Winslow?????

I was thinking the exact same thing. Makes this poll lose credibility.

mngolf19
07-06-2007, 12:34 PM
Without Favre, this team would be LUCKY to win 4 games.

To put it mildly...this offense can't punch it into the endzone despite having one of the most prolific scoring QBs leading the offense due to a lack of weapons and an inexperienced OL. If we didn't have Favre, this team wouldn't muster more than 10 points a game.

Which is why Favre should be getting 100% of the votes.

The Leaper
07-06-2007, 12:40 PM
Favre is just an average starting QB now.

I'd like to see some of the "average" QBs in the NFL post the stats Favre did last year behind an OL that was consistently beaten against the run all year and routinely gave up pressures when pass blocking. You saw what happened to Rodgers when he came in...he got pounded into next week. Only a highly experienced QB like Favre has the ability to play behind a crappy OL like that and still be relatively productive.

Favre remains one of the 10 best QBs in the NFL...when everything else is equal. His stats are only average due to the below average talent he has to work with on offense. Hell...Manning usually can't get to 30 TD passes with Harrison, Wayne and the rest to throw to. Give Favre that kind of cast to work with and see what he does. Or have you forgotten 2004 already?

The difference between then and now isn't so much Favre but the downfall of the supporting cast.

woodbuck27
07-06-2007, 01:16 PM
Kellen Winslow?????

Really !! :)

woodbuck27
07-06-2007, 01:25 PM
7) Who is Green Bay's most indispensable player?

67.3% Brett Favre

13.1% Aaron Kampman
12.6% A.J. Hawk
5.0% Charles Woodson
2.1% Chad Clifton

As our offense looks at present. Where would Favre be without Donald Driver to catch the ball?

I know that at least Favre see's the importance of DD on our team.

In the debate of where would we be without Favre.

We'll soon find out.

I'll predict that as soon as Favre is pushed out that Aaron Rodgers will have alot more to work with (at least potentially) than Brett Favre does at present.

Now. . .why would that be?

retailguy
07-06-2007, 02:48 PM
Without Favre, this team would be LUCKY to win 4 games.

To put it mildly...this offense can't punch it into the endzone despite having one of the most prolific scoring QBs leading the offense due to a lack of weapons and an inexperienced OL. If we didn't have Favre, this team wouldn't muster more than 10 points a game.

Leaper, I agree. The scary thing, is, if you think about this in terms of the rebuilding effort, ie. life after Favre, it doesn't bode well for season #1 AF (after Favre), does it?

If we're truly "rebuilding", and we're truly "doing it the right way", shouldn't we be able to win games, or even have a presumption of being able to win games, WITHOUT Favre?

To JH - If we truly can only hope to win ONE game minus three players, that doesn't say much for the rest of the team, does it? Shouldn't we be "solid" and "stable" by this point?

Seems to me that in 2005 we lost 9 or 10 starters and still managed to win 4 games.... Are we truly progressing, or regressing? (I think you're closer to my line of thinking than you may care to admit. :wink: )