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HarveyWallbangers
07-26-2007, 11:02 PM
10 NFL pre-training camp question marks
Peter Schrager

NFL training camps begin this week. Get ready for the onslaught of unbridled optimism.

Talk to a Browns fan in July, and he's giddy over the Charlie Frye/Braylon Edwards connection, gabbing about Joe Thomas' work ethic, and insisting that with LeCharles Bentley back in the fold — this is Cleveland's breakout season. Raiders fans? Despite a 2-14 season last year, a super young offense, a rookie coach, and new starters at basically every offensive skill position, the inhabitants of the Black Hole are seriously talking about the playoffs. Texans fans love the Schaub and Green moves, Lions die-hards are giddy over Year 2 of the Martz/Marinelli era, and even Dolphins fans are smiling.

And isn't that the beauty of training-camp season? Reports leak of seventh-round picks making phenomenal grabs in traffic during a July mini-camp and you think you've got the next Marques Colston suiting up for your team. Three weeks later, the guy's an August cut and never heard from again. Rookies battle veterans in the heat, coaches spit their venom from the sidelines, and undrafted cats from small schools make unexpected runs at roster spots not intended for them.

For all the dog fighting, strip-club shootouts and Vegas casino slapfests in the news over the off-season, the NFL can finally get back to its bread and butter this week — actual football.

The fans have been salivating for it.

Trust me, so has the media.

And on the eve of training camps opening across the country, there's unbridled optimism from coast to coast.

But what fan bases should be a little worried? Where are the biggest question marks? Here are 10 trouble spots worth keeping a careful eye on throughout the training-camp season:

1. Minnesota Vikings quarterbacks

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Tarvaris Jackson, Brooks Bollinger, Tyler Thigpen

Yikes. Jackson, Bollinger and Thigpen may sound more like a personal-injury law firm than an NFL quarterback trio, but it's actually the Vikings' Nos. 1, 2 and 3 at QB heading into training camp. Brad Childress and the Vikings brass are confident in second-year man Jackson, but it's tough to be 100 percent sure about the kid based on last year's late-season performance.

Though Jackson played well in relief during mop-up duty in a blowout loss to the Jets on Dec. 17, he had one of the most underwhelming performances out of any QB last season in the Vikes' nationally televised 9-7 loss in Green Bay. Jackson went 10-for-20 for a paltry 50 yards with an interception that night, and left every Vikings fan whispering and mumbling about Brady Quinn.

Well, Minnesota didn't make any waves with the quarterback position in either the early rounds of the draft (they passed on Quinn) or the free-agent market this off-season. Jackson's their guy. And if it's not him, it's the undersized, over-achieving Bollinger.

As for Tyler Thigpen? Well, he threw for over 3,000 yards last season...for the Coastal Carolina Chanticleers. Combined, the three young signal callers have started 11 NFL games — none of them being playoff contests.

Vikings fans, buckle up. This could be interesting.

2. Green Bay Packers running backs

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Vernand Morency, Brandon Jackson, Noah Herron, DeShawn Wynn

In today's NFL, it's no longer sexy to have one workhorse tailback carrying the ball 35 times and racking up over 500 touches in a season. It's a running back by committee world now, folks. Everywhere you look, two-back — and sometimes three-back — platoons are racking up yards, and ruining fantasy leagues. Jacksonville, Minnesota, Detroit, Washington, Dallas and the New York Jets will all employ high-powered, etablished multi-back offenses this year. And so will Green Bay. Or so it seems.

But with who? With the departure of both Ahman Green and William Henderson in the off-season, Green Bay's left with a rather non-descript foursome of rookies and young vets in their backfield. Morency and Herron have combined for 683 career rushing yards, while neither Jackson nor Wynn were the lone ball carriers in their college systems last year. It's one thing to have Julius Jones and Marion Barber sharing touches. But Morency, Jackson, Herron and Wynn? Hmm...

3. Minnesota Vikings wide receivers

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Bobby Wade, Troy Williamson, Sidney Rice, Billy McMullen

Not to pile on the Vikings faithful, here, but c'mon. It's one thing to have some question marks at quarterback when you've got proven veteran wideouts to pick up the slack. But Minnesota's wide receiver depth chart looks more like an NFL Europe team's corps than an NFL contender's.

Bobby Wade had a career year last season in Tennessee, and still only had 33 receptions. One more underwhelming campaign and it will be about time to write off former top-10 selection Troy Williamson as a colossal draft bust, second-round selection Sidney Rice is still very raw, and Billy McMullen couldn't break through on a 2005 Eagles team whose top receivers were Todd Pinkston and a batch of unknown rookies.

Brad Childress is an offensive mind. He'll make due with what he's got and that rushing attack's going to be out of this world. But the passing game? Eek. I'm not so sure.

4. New England Patriots cornerbacks

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Ellis Hobbs, Chad Scott, Ray Mickens, Willie Andrews, Tory James, Randall Gay

While everyone else covering the NFL seems to be fitting the Pats for their Super Bowl XXLII rings this summer, I've publicly voiced my reservations time and time again. One of New England's biggest question marks heading into training camp is the cornerback position. With Asante Samuel's holdout apparently not ending anytime soon, the Pats are left with a crew consisting of fairly green players like Scott and Hobbs, along with veterans who have seen better days five to 10 years ago like Mickens and James.

Sure, the Pats won a Super Bowl in 2005 with fill-ins and contributions from Troy Brown at defensive back. But they didn't START the season in such dire straits. It may not be as bad as I'm making it out to be — but it's certainly not good. That front seven could quite be the best in the league and those safeties are tough up the middle. But the cornerback spot would have me a bit worried come opening day if I were part of Patriots Nation.

5. San Diego Chargers coaching staff

Expected Opening Day coaching staff: Norv Turner, head coach; Ted Cottrell, defensive coordinator; Clarence Shelmon, offensive coordinator

The Chargers were the only NFL team to not sign a single new veteran free agent over the off-season. A 14-2 squad last year, San Diego will go to war in '07 with almost exactly the same roster they battled with in '06. So why are some folks in the media picking the Broncos to win the AFC West? Well, the coaching staff has changed quite a bit down in SoCal. And few say for the better.

Gone is head coach Marty Schottenheimer (some say this is a good thing), offensive coordinator Cam Cameron (now Miami's head coach), and defensive coordinator Wade Phillips (now the head coach in Dallas). Also lost are tight ends coach Rob Chudzinski (the new offensive coordinator in Cleveland) and linebackers coach Greg Manusky (now the defensive coordinator for San Francisco).

In comes Norv Turner as the new head coach, Ted Cottrell as the new defensive coordinator, Clarence Shelmon takes the helm at O-coordinator, and former Bears defensive whiz Ron Riviera comes in as Manusky's replacement as linebackers coach. Turner has a history with San Diego (offensive coordinator under Mike Riley in 2001, 2002) and has recently been the recipient of showered praise in NFL circles for his role in the rapid development of 49ers quarterback Alex Smith.

But he's still Norv Turner. The same Norv Turner that has a career head coaching record of 58-82-1. The same Norv Turner who is 1-1 in career postseason contests. Excuse me for not doing flips over the hiring.

Cottrell's one of the more respected defensive minds in the game, but has had his failures along the way, too. Shelmon's a longtime Chargers assistant who has worked with running backs Emmitt Smith, Chris Warren, and Tomlinson over the course of his 16-year coaching career, but is a first-year coordinator. A 14-2 team losing a coach here or a coordinator there is expected, but the top three spots on the coaching pyramid? That's a lot to overcome.

San Diego should be fine this season. They're the favorites in the AFC West and will more than likely make the playoffs. But are they better than they were in 2006? That's hard to say. It's like one of those old high school chemistry experiments. The roster is the "control" here, as it's remained unchanged. The coaching staff, though, has an entirely new look. Let's see what kind of chemist GM A.J. Smith is.

6. Houston Texans offensive line

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Eric Winston (RT), Fred Weary (RG), Mike Flanagan (C), Chester Pitts (LG), Ephraim Salaam (LT)

What'd the Four Tops once sing? "It's the same old song?" Well, that could be the Texans soundtrack music for each and every one of their off-seasons since the team entered the league in 2002. The familiar site of David Carr lying on his back under a heap of opposing defensive tackles and linebackers can now be replaced with the site of Matt Schaub lying on his back under a heap of opposing defensive tackles and linebackers. That is, of course, unless the O-line drastically improves.

The Texans opted to pass on selecting an offensive lineman in the first round of April's draft, and didn't select one until the fifth round. In the free-agency game, they scooped up former Chiefs player Jordan Black. The five expected starters for the upcoming season were all with the Texans last year. They know the offense and are familiar with the game plan. But based on the unit's '06 performance, is that even a good thing?

7. Indianapolis Colts cornerbacks

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Kelvin Hayden, Marlin Jackson, Tim Jennings, Daymeion Hughes, T.J. Rushing, Michael Coe, Tanard Davis

Super Bowl playmakers Nick Harper and Jason David are gone, but young contributors Kelvin Hayden and Marlin Jackson remain. Of course, Jackson has played more at free safety than cornerback in his two seasons with the Colts. What's left? Seldom-used second-year man Tim Jennings, even less frequently used second-year man T.J. Rushing, and a carnival of rookies in Hughes, Coe and Davis.

For as much as Peyton Manning may feast on the Patriots current cornerback situation, Mr. Brady might enjoy lining up against the Colts corners even more. Neither team's cornerbacks come close to matching up with the talent and depth in Denver, Baltimore and Jacksonville.

8. Tennessee Titans receivers

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Brandon Jones, Courtney Roby, David Givens, Roydell Williams, Justin Cage, Paul Williams

No team had a more curious off-season than Tennessee. The Titans let a 1,300-yard back in Travis Henry sign with Denver, failed to re-sign No. 1 wideout Drew Bennett and No. 2 wideout Bobby Wade, then endured the entire Pacman Jones situation. They then failed to address all three voids with their first-round pick in April's draft.

The receiver spot is especially worrisome. As much as I see potential in guys like Bobby Jones and Courtney Roby, neither are proven NFL performers. David Givens likely isn't a No. 1 at this point in his career and Roydell Williams isn't going to a Pro Bowl anytime soon.

Vince Young's going to be asked to do a lot this year. I'm just not sure he's got the help at wideout to do it.

9. Tennessee Titans running backs

Expected Opening Day depth chart: LenDale White, Chris Brown, Chris Henry, Quinton Ganther

Along with the wideout position, there are definite question marks in the Titans backfield heading into this season, as well. LenDale White's been battling weight issues since he was drafted in '06, Chris Brown's been battling injuries since '05, and Chris Henry's been battling constant second guessing from every NFL draft pundit with access to a keyboard and a URL since April. All three should start the year with chips on their shoulders and with something to prove.

Titans fans can only hope it all works out well. Otherwise, it will be a long season tracking Travis Henry and his 100-yard games out in Denver.

10. Atlanta Falcons quarterback

Expected Opening Day depth chart: Michael Vick*, Joey Harrington, Chris Redman, D.J. Shockley

You were waiting for this one. I denoted the Vick situation with the ugliest possible symbol in sports — an asterisk. Steroids, recruiting violations, dog fighting — if you've done (or been accused of) something bad, you get the dreaded asterisk.

HarveyWallbangers
07-26-2007, 11:22 PM
TE Courtney Anderson was cut by the Raiders. He's been the starter there (they drafed Zach Miller), and he's still young yet (26 or 27). Wouldn't mind the Turtle bringing him in, but I won't get my hopes up.

Bretsky
07-27-2007, 12:33 AM
TE Courtney Anderson was cut by the Raiders. He's been the starter there (they drafed Zach Miller), and he's still young yet (26 or 27). Wouldn't mind the Turtle bringing him in, but I won't get my hopes up.


Completely agree; Anderson is not a bad option as a receiver.

Harvey, that was the FIRST time, at least that I noticed you called TT a Turtle
Kudos to you :knll: lol

MadtownPacker
07-27-2007, 02:11 AM
Harvey, that was the FIRST time, at least that I noticed you called TT a TurtleYou a straight up trendsetter B! I bet TT woudl laugh his ass off if he knew fans called him "The Turtle".

But if Courtney Anderson is available and TT doesn't make an attempt, I am gonna start calling "El Turtle" also!

BallHawk
07-27-2007, 08:05 AM
I can't see the Packers keeping 4 RBs, especially when it is a guy like Herron. Do they really think Herron can help the team? He's crap on special teams and a dud on offense. I wouldn't mind having Wynn (if he performs) or Pope (if he performs), but having Herron on for another year? I can't take that.

Jerry Tagge
07-27-2007, 10:31 AM
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Sorry, I couldn't help myself. :lol:

Packnut
07-27-2007, 12:56 PM
I can't see the Packers keeping 4 RBs, especially when it is a guy like Herron. Do they really think Herron can help the team? He's crap on special teams and a dud on offense. I wouldn't mind having Wynn (if he performs) or Pope (if he performs), but having Herron on for another year? I can't take that.



I'm with you! :shock:

The Shadow
07-27-2007, 01:24 PM
P. J. Pope.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 01:25 PM
P. J. Pope.

then why did we waste a 2nd round pick on Brandon Jackson?

The Shadow
07-27-2007, 01:27 PM
Morency
Jackson
Pope

retailguy
07-27-2007, 01:35 PM
Morency
Jackson
Pope


we spent a second round pick to be a BACKUP running back? :shock:

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 01:45 PM
Morency
Jackson
Pope


we spent a second round pick to be a BACKUP running back? :shock:


Sherman spent a first round pick on Jamal Reynolds?
Ted spend a first round pick on Aaron Rogers - a backup QB to this point.

This isn't rec league - not everybody gets to start.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 01:48 PM
Morency
Jackson
Pope


we spent a second round pick to be a BACKUP running back? :shock:


Sherman spent a first round pick on Jamal Reynolds?
Ted spend a first round pick on Aaron Rogers - a backup QB to this point.

This isn't rec league - not everybody gets to start.

we've been through this before scott.... wolf drafted reynolds. Yes ted drafte Aaron... wasn't my point.

my point was, if we're positive that the solution to our RB woes can come off of another practice squad, why waste the pick?

After all we got Noah Herron from Pittsburg's practice squad... and look how that's worked out. Another IF Scott, it's another IF. there is a million of them. pick one, and YOU TOO can think they'll be 16-0...

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 01:50 PM
Morency
Jackson
Pope


we spent a second round pick to be a BACKUP running back? :shock:


Sherman spent a first round pick on Jamal Reynolds?
Ted spend a first round pick on Aaron Rogers - a backup QB to this point.

This isn't rec league - not everybody gets to start.

we've been through this before scott.... wolf drafted reynolds. Yes ted drafte Aaron... wasn't my point.

my point was, if we're positive that the solution to our RB woes can come off of another practice squad, why waste the pick?

After all we got Noah Herron from Pittsburg's practice squad... and look how that's worked out. Another IF Scott, it's another IF. there is a million of them. pick one, and YOU TOO can think they'll be 16-0...


Patriot tickets don't come with a money back guarantee if they don't win the Superbowl either. Every team has IFs this time of year. Especially when fans look as hard for them as some of you do.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 01:52 PM
Patriot tickets don't come with a money back guarantee if they don't win the Superbowl either. Every team has IFs this time of year. Especially when fans look as hard for them as some of you do.

I'm looking hard? What position on this roster doesn't have an IF? Perhaps, DL, perhaps LB, and perhaps QB, but that's about it.

Patriot tickets are probably the best value in sports right now. Packer tickets are probably the most fun. who is talking about a money back guarantee? duck and dodge scott. it is all you know how to do...

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 01:57 PM
Patriot tickets don't come with a money back guarantee if they don't win the Superbowl either. Every team has IFs this time of year. Especially when fans look as hard for them as some of you do.

I'm looking hard? What position on this roster doesn't have an IF? Perhaps, DL, perhaps LB, and perhaps QB, but that's about it.

Patriot tickets are probably the best value in sports right now. Packer tickets are probably the most fun. who is talking about a money back guarantee? duck and dodge scott. it is all you know how to do...


Not true. I can chuck and jive too.

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 02:02 PM
duck and dodge scott. it is all you know how to do...



Would you rather I went on the offensive here? Because that can be arranged.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 02:06 PM
duck and dodge scott. it is all you know how to do...



Would you rather I went on the offensive here? Because that can be arranged.

why don't you merely tell us what YOU think the solution is, instead of telling everyone why they are wrong? Rarely do you say what YOU think and open yourself up to having your opinion criticized.

What's the solution to what ails the packers in 2007? What "if"s are likely to pan out?

Lay it on us....

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 02:15 PM
why don't you merely tell us what YOU think the solution is, instead of telling everyone why they are wrong? Rarely do you say what YOU think and open yourself up to having your opinion criticized.

What's the solution to what ails the packers in 2007? What "if"s are likely to pan out?

Lay it on us....


I think I'll sit back and watch to see how all of this pans out. I'm not going to wet my pants in July. You could use a few towels.

If you're really that needy to get some wild ass predictions, I'll set up a PayPal account and you can fork over $100/word. Mad gets half. They come with no guarantees.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 02:18 PM
why don't you merely tell us what YOU think the solution is, instead of telling everyone why they are wrong? Rarely do you say what YOU think and open yourself up to having your opinion criticized.

What's the solution to what ails the packers in 2007? What "if"s are likely to pan out?

Lay it on us....


I think I'll sit back and watch to see how all of this pans out. I'm not going to wet my pants in July. You could use a few towels.

If you're really that needy to get some wild ass predictions, I'll set up a PayPal account and you can fork over $100/word. Mad gets half. They come with no guarantees.

I rest my case. enjoy the fence post. but please stop criticizing those of us who have enough guts to say what we think, even if we turn out to be wrong.

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 02:29 PM
I rest my case. enjoy the fence post. but please stop criticizing those of us who have enough guts to say what we think, even if we turn out to be wrong.


Guts?

Guts???

Do you really think you've displayed "guts" here? Would you like a medal?, My gosh - how brave you are.

I think it's kind of a sad if you've tied your masculinity to something as trivial as your Packer predictions.

I'll continue to comment as I see fit. But thanks for the suggestion anyway.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 02:49 PM
I rest my case. enjoy the fence post. but please stop criticizing those of us who have enough guts to say what we think, even if we turn out to be wrong.


Guts?

Guts???

Do you really think you've displayed "guts" here? Would you like a medal?, My gosh - how brave you are.

I think it's kind of a sad if you've tied your masculinity to something as trivial as your Packer predictions.

I'll continue to comment as I see fit. But thanks for the suggestion anyway.

and here we go again..... duck, dodge, smart ass comeback.

Why should I expect any less...

Keep commenting, make a fool of yourself, be funny, be stupid, who cares?

sadly, in my humble opinion, you don't have much to offer lately except grossman bashing comments, and a few splinters that get lodged in your ass from sitting on the fence post...

GBRulz
07-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Both of you... on to the chill out bus

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/gbrulz/chill-out-bus.jpg

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Donaghy is to NBA refs

what

RG is to PR Mods


A complete disgrace.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 03:07 PM
Both of you... on to the chill out bus

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/gbrulz/chill-out-bus.jpg

thats a cute bus!

retailguy
07-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Donaghy is to NBA refs

what

RG is to PR Mods


A complete disgrace.


and another personal attack.... <sigh>

Nowhere in my "mod contract" does it say that I have to put up with you, and your comments... and not respond. You've been around enough to know better.

You seem to have come particularly unarmed today. I don't quite understand that.

If you had an opinion, I might start respecting it, but by your own admission, you don't. so just leave it alone and take your sarcasm out on someone who gives a shit.

Where is the blue dog when you need him? :wink:

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 03:13 PM
Donaghy is to NBA refs

what

RG is to PR Mods


A complete disgrace.


and another personal attack.... <sigh>

Nowhere in my "mod contract" does it say that I have to put up with you, and your comments... and not respond. You've been around enough to know better.

You seem to have come particularly unarmed today. I don't quite understand that.

If you had an opinion, I might start respecting it, but by your own admission, you don't. so just leave it alone and take your sarcasm out on someone who gives a shit.

Where is the blue dog when you need him? :wink:


Personal attack?

Check the thread. You started this all by yourself. Not me.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 03:14 PM
Donaghy is to NBA refs

what

RG is to PR Mods


A complete disgrace.


and another personal attack.... <sigh>

Nowhere in my "mod contract" does it say that I have to put up with you, and your comments... and not respond. You've been around enough to know better.

You seem to have come particularly unarmed today. I don't quite understand that.

If you had an opinion, I might start respecting it, but by your own admission, you don't. so just leave it alone and take your sarcasm out on someone who gives a shit.

Where is the blue dog when you need him? :wink:


Personal attack?

Check the thread. You started this all by yourself. Not me.

Uhuh. Yeah right... Whatever.

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 03:22 PM
and another personal attack.... <sigh>



Seriously, what a hypocrite you are. Do you really believe you aren't engaging in the same so called "personal attacks"?

Do you really believe that?

Do you?

Really?

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 04:08 PM
Back to Harv's topic, did anyone else notice that the Vikings owned 2 of the 3 biggest question marks in the league - according to this guy anyway.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 04:33 PM
and another personal attack.... <sigh>



Seriously, what a hypocrite you are. Do you really believe you aren't engaging in the same so called "personal attacks"?

Do you really believe that?

Do you?

Really?

Really.

Scott Campbell
07-27-2007, 04:35 PM
Really.


LOL

Well then you're pathetic too.

retailguy
07-27-2007, 04:36 PM
Back to Harv's topic, did anyone else notice that the Vikings owned 2 of the 3 biggest question marks in the league - according to this guy anyway.

Yes they do, and they're well earned. Tavaris Jackson is definitely boom or bust, and the WR core looks bleaker than ours did in 2002. At least we had Terry Glenn and some unknown guy named Donald Driver, and a promising rookie names Javon Walker. Oh yeah, we did have ferguson too, fwiw...

Minnesota is about the only team in the league with clearly bigger questions on offense than us, and possibly Tennessee.

I do like their running backs better than ours though. Tennessee's too. But that's just because they have more than 145 carries between six backs.

If Peterson stays healthy it's going to be a long 6 or 7 years.

Bretsky
07-27-2007, 04:52 PM
Back to Harv's topic, did anyone else notice that the Vikings owned 2 of the 3 biggest question marks in the league - according to this guy anyway.

Yes they do, and they're well earned. Tavaris Jackson is definitely boom or bust, and the WR core looks bleaker than ours did in 2002. At least we had Terry Glenn and some unknown guy named Donald Driver, and a promising rookie names Javon Walker. Oh yeah, we did have ferguson too, fwiw...

Minnesota is about the only team in the league with clearly bigger questions on offense than us, and possibly Tennessee.

I do like their running backs better than ours though. Tennessee's too. But that's just because they have more than 145 carries between six backs.

If Peterson stays healthy it's going to be a long 6 or 7 years.


The Vikings do have a boatload of questions as well.

I wonder if over on the Vikings Board there are similar characters as we have here.

You'd have the overly optimistic Childeressites, like the Turtleites, who believe another year of development from Jackson and all this young talent will lead to a team on the upside.

And then you'd have the anti group who wonders how the hell they picked the free agents they did and how they could possibly not look for veteran help at the QB position in case Jackson bombs.

Funny, but if I was a Viking fan I think I'd find myself in the middle but more in group B. I surely would have LOVED the Vikings draft, but at the same time I'd be pretty upset than Minnesota was not bringing in some veteran help at QB or making moves to do so.

HarveyWallbangers
07-27-2007, 05:09 PM
I wonder if over on the Vikings Board there are similar characters as we have here.

You'd have the overly optimistic Childeressites, like the Turtleites, who believe another year of development from Jackson and all this young talent will lead to a team on the upside.

I don't think they'd necessarily be overly optimistic to think that. They could be better. Sure, they have holes, but they also have talent--just like we do. I've predicted they'll finish below .500 (mainly because of the inexperienced QB), but you never know. Who is to say that T-Jack won't be solid this year? That might not be probably, but it's not out of the question. OL has talent (even though I think it's overrated). RBs are great. Run defense is great. Pass defense could be better with James back and maybe Udeze does better. They have a lot of questions, but if I were a Vikings fan, I'd wait to see what their team looked like in the preseason before completely writing them off.