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Bretsky
08-05-2007, 01:31 PM
Saturday camp report
By TOM SILVERSTEIN and BOB MCGINN
tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Aug. 4, 2007
THUMBS UP

With quarterbacks wearing red, the defense had one hand tied behind its back. Scrimmages such as this are set up for the offense to excel. And it did. Here are some players that stood out. Noah Herron followed Brandon Jackson into the fray at running back and made the most of it. It was Herron's cleaving block on a blitz pickup that knocked Nick Barnett from the affair. Without fanfare, Herron has had another solid camp. He is going to be a hard man to run off. Greg Jennings was his silky smooth self. Carlyle Holiday used his big body for a scrimmage-high five receptions. James Jones didn't shrivel up when the lights came on. While Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers were doing the throwing, no one dropped a pass. Shaun Bodiford made a case for himself as the return specialist with a 54-yard kickoff return that was brought back by penalty. Rookie wide receiver David Clowney, who has had a slow first week, flashed his dazzling speed on a 102-yard kickoff return that probably would have been about 30 if Will Blackmon had been allowed to tackle instead of just "thud."

THUMBS DOWN

The knock on cornerback Frank Walker during his four seasons with the New York Giants wasn't his size, speed or athletic ability. That's all good. What he could never do was make enough plays on the ball. It was one of the reasons that coach Tom Coughlin basically refused to play Walker over the final 75% of last season. Packers general manager Ted Thompson took a $150,000 (signing bonus) flyer on Walker in March; it was his only unrestricted free-agent signing. In the scrimmage, Walker was victimized six times for double-digit completions for a total of 118 yards during the time that Favre and Rodgers were doing the throwing. He gave up a comeback for 22, a go route for 33, a bootleg for 20, a crossing route for 21, a slant for 11 and an out for 11. On a night when Blackmon made a move in the right direction, Walker clearly made a move in the wrong direction.

INJURY REPORT

Tight end Zac Alcorn returned. "His feet are a mess," coach Mike McCarthy said. "He gutted it out." Also returning was cornerback Antonio Malone. McCarthy listed four players with injuries from the scrimmage: fullback Brandon Miree (stinger), running back P.J. Pope (knee), linebacker Abdul Hodge (dislocated finger) and safety Atari Bigby (dislocated finger). Sitting out due to injury were tight ends Bubba Franks (eye) and Clark Harris (ankle), running back Vernand Morency (knee) and linebacker Rory Johnson (abdomen).
ODDS AND ENDS

Rookie defensive tackle Justin Harrell worked with the third team and had one tackle and one pass deflection. Other than that, he made no noteworthy plays.

There were two big hits during the scrimmage: Hodge decked Herron as he came to the line of scrimmage on a running play and cornerback Tramon Williams leveled receiver Chris Francies after a short catch, separating him from the ball.

There was only one non-snap-related fumble during the scrimmage. It came when receiver Donald Driver had the ball on his hip after a short reception and Blackmon poked it loose. Driver recovered.

There was only one sack credited to the defense, although there were a number of plays in which the quarterback might not have escaped had he not been wearing the protective red jersey.

The offense ran a very limited amount of its running plays for the scrimmage, although a good portion of the zone scheme was used. The same plays were run over and over again to keep things simple.

Rookie running back Brandon Jackson did not get out of bounds after a 23-yard reception out of the backfield during the 2-minute drill. The offense was forced to take a timeout with less than 30 seconds left.
SCHEDULE

SUNDAY: No practice.

MONDAY: One practice at 2 p.m. The players are scheduled to wear full pads.

Bretsky
08-05-2007, 01:37 PM
The knock on cornerback Frank Walker during his four seasons with the New York Giants wasn't his size, speed or athletic ability. That's all good. What he could never do was make enough plays on the ball.



Never like to see that; I won't say his name but that description fits ole #28 perfectly

Packnut
08-05-2007, 02:05 PM
The knock on cornerback Frank Walker during his four seasons with the New York Giants wasn't his size, speed or athletic ability. That's all good. What he could never do was make enough plays on the ball.



Never like to see that; I won't say his name but that description fits ole #28 perfectly


Walker is a bum. No one else wanted him, and he came cheap, both of which fit Teddy's attitude toward's FA this season. I thought it was hilarious last night when once again Teddy stated his patented "there were no FA's available who were better than what we have". Well, the exception had to be Walker right??????????????????

BallHawk
08-05-2007, 02:38 PM
With Dendy and Bush looking good, as well as Blackmon showing some potential, you have to think that maybe Walker's stay in GB will be short.

Walker hasn't shown anything to anyone yet. Hell, Antonio Malone has arguably done more then him.

If TT swallows his pride, Walker could be gone.

Lurker64
08-05-2007, 02:40 PM
If TT swallows his pride, Walker could be gone.

If he cut a fourth round draft pick straight out last year, I certainly think he'd be willing to cut a FA he didn't pay much for. The Rodgers situation at least last year shows that it's TT's M.O. to just get rid of a mistake when he can so he doesn't have to pay for it for years to come.

woodbuck27
08-05-2007, 04:34 PM
If TT swallows his pride, Walker could be gone.

If he cut a fourth round draft pick straight out last year, I certainly think he'd be willing to cut a FA he didn't pay much for. The Rodgers situation at least last year shows that it's TT's M.O. to just get rid of a mistake when he can so he doesn't have to pay for it for years to come.

TT had to cut a lot of FA's in 2005.

We need the very best roster that the coach's can develop.

It's no time for EGO !

KYPack
08-05-2007, 04:56 PM
Some stuff I haven't see elsewhere:

Rookie safety Aaron Rouse is a horse. He came strong on the rifle force and blew up a sweep. It would be hoped they can work him in at safety (dime maybe?). I guarantee he will be a force on ST.

Lot's of play from the young CB's. Last year's PS refugee Tramon Williams is an impressive kid. Big, rangy and cut up, he blew up the Fraud and Chris Francies on crushing tackles.

Everybody hates Frank Walker. He had a rough nite at the office. But consider, we've got options beyond fear at corner now. Walker has long been known as one of the best gunners in the league. Who ever beats him out will have to be a terror on the punt team.

Justin Harrell will be a stud. He is very strong, quick and will be everything advertised. he will get in shape just by playing. We have the potential to have the best 3 man DT rotation in the league. Baring injuries, TT may just have the option of dealing Colin Cole for one of the holy draft picks he craves so much.

May be it's just me Dept.

Did anyone else think it was goofy that both TT and M3 spent all that time standing on the 30 yd line out on the field observing the team?

I don't know if TT has the right handle on the nature of his job. He seems to be kind of a frustrated coach or something.

woodbuck27
08-05-2007, 05:14 PM
Some stuff I haven't see elsewhere:

Rookie safety Aaron Rouse is a horse. He came strong on the rifle force and blew up a sweep. It would be hoped they can work him in at safety (dime maybe?). I guarantee he will be a force on ST.

Lot's of play from the young CB's. Last year's PS refugee Tramon Williams is an impressive kid. Big, rangy and cut up, he blew up the Fraud and Chris Francies on crushing tackles.

Everybody hates Frank Walker. He had a rough nite at the office. But consider, we've got options beyond fear at corner now. Walker has long been known as one of the best gunners in the league. Who ever beats him out will have to be a terror on the punt team.

Justin Harrell will be a stud. He is very strong, quick and will be everything advertised. he will get in shape just by playing. We have the potential to have the best 3 man DT rotation in the league. Baring injuries, TT may just have the option of dealing Colin Cole for one of the holy draft picks he craves so much.

May be it's just me Dept.

Did anyone else think it was goofy that both TT and M3 spent all that time standing on the 30 yd line out on the field observing the team?

I don't know if TT has the right handle on the nature of his job. He seems to be kind of a frustrated coach or something.

Yes but. . .

TT has absolutely nothing to do with how MM handles the team in practise or on the field.

MM and his coaching staff are all the show when it comes to use and development of all players to develop our roster.

That's what I'm informed is the case. TT just supplies the talent with his keen sense,eye and dedication for that as our GM only.

TT just loves to be visable. To offer all the support he can. :)

MJZiggy
08-05-2007, 05:27 PM
Uhhhh Buck? TT is the one who has to make the roster reductions this month. Wouldn't it be a good idea for him to be out there closely observing the team and discussing it with M3 before he does this?

woodbuck27
08-05-2007, 05:29 PM
Uhhhh Buck? TT is the one who has to make the roster reductions this month. Wouldn't it be a good idea for him to be out there closely observing the team and discussing it with M3 before he does this?

Then there's no excuse for him to screw up any more this year MJ.

MJZiggy
08-05-2007, 05:30 PM
What's that got to do with observing the team?

woodbuck27
08-05-2007, 06:32 PM
What's that got to do with observing the team?

Just about it all.

The Shadow
08-05-2007, 06:41 PM
So : now Thompson is being criticized for simply observing his team.
Sigh........

woodbuck27
08-05-2007, 07:05 PM
So : now Thompson is being criticized for simply observing his team.
Sigh........

NO No No . . .nooo ! :)

Terry
08-06-2007, 08:41 AM
So : now Thompson is being criticized for simply observing his team.
Sigh........
No, no, it was his posture, his posture. 9 FBI profilers I talked to said it was obvious from his posture that there's no excuse for him to screw up any more this year.