Packers Versus Jaguars - Official Preseason Game Thread

[Partial]

mine is always crabby


Mine too often as of late as well

Chicks should be more mellow and kind on game day; they should be naked on game day too. Game day should be all about guy neediness

That's what I'm saying!


Good luck with that.


If you don't swing it's impossible to get a hit. I nominate Rastak to try first and report back and let us know how it worked :P


I can assure you tonight it will fail...she's pissed at me...

Must be a common theme tonight. I even made dinner and scrubed the kitchen from head to toe with a disinfectant!!

On a football note, Rouse likes to hit with his shoulders and helmet. Lots of loud noises on Rouse hits.

[Charles Woodson]

[quote:597c22f5f9="Rastak"]What's up with Leftwich? Twice he has a guy and overthrows him....
Hes being the normal leftwich... Nuff said

Poppycock. Leftwich is good. His receivers are bad. Very bad. They cannot get a 1st round receiver to work out to save their lives.


I agree with Woodson, he overshot them TWICE.

Not saying he didn't. I was saying that isn't "typcial leftwich".

I think that last play just proved my point

He's a good player. He doesn't have any weapons except out of the backfield. He's one of my favorite players. Liked him since his college days. Tough as nails.

Hes never broken 3,000 yards passing a season...

Reggie Williams, the guy they brought in for him is a 3rd stringer and Matt Jones is a 2nd teamer.

His first 3 years he had Jimmy smith and smith put up 1000 yards twice and 800 the first. And the tough as a nail stuff? He hasnt played a full season yet, Games played has been 15, 14, 11, 6

He is injury prone, but anyone who is tough enough to play with a broken ankle and have his offensive line carry him down the field is a bad mother. He is tough as tough comes.

He had Jimmy Smith on the back-end of his career and likewise it was at the start of Leftwich's own career. He could easily put up 3k+ if he had a DD.[/quote:597c22f5f9]

Favre is tough as tough comes, no because he has to get the ball to the reciver to actually get yards. This game has been proof that hes just not tthat good.

[esoxx]

MRI will tell us the story.

OK, so lets get that going. What are they waiting on?? :shock:

Yeah no kidding.

Exam, test and interpration of the results are forthcoming though.

If it's bad, Pack might not even release any info right away on extent. Would allow TT to maybe swing a deal for a WR without a gun to his head (actually that's probably the only way he would make a trade :lol: ). We do have excess D-lineman we could part with.

Hell throw in a draft pick.

Okay, I know that will never happen.

[woodbuck27]

.

Jacksonville Jaguars at 10:40 of third Qtr.

1-10-GB 46 (10:40) 9-D.Garrard pass short right to 17-C.Sharon to GB 34 for 12 yards (24-J.Bush).

1-10-GB 34 (10:07) 22-L.Toefield up the middle to GB 33 for 1 yard (98-R.Johnson, 57-J.Hunter).

2-9-GB 33 (9:26) 9-D.Garrard pass incomplete short right to 17-C.Sharon.

3-9-GB 33 (9:21) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short middle to 18-M.Jones to GB 7 for 26 yards (37-A.Rouse) [99-C.Williams].

1-7-GB 7 (8:34) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 11-R.Williams to GB 2 for 5 yards (55-D.Bishop).

2-2-GB 2 (7:52) 22-L.Toefield up the middle to GB 1 for 1 yard (90-C.Cole).

3-1-GB 1 (7:11) 22-L.Toefield up the middle for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN.

10-J.Scobee extra point is GOOD, Center-88-J.Zelenka, Holder-3-A.Podlesh.

JAX 7 GB 10 Plays: 7 Possession: 3:33

[retailguy]

[quote:3ddca37e35="Rastak"]What's up with Leftwich? Twice he has a guy and overthrows him....
Hes being the normal leftwich... Nuff said

Poppycock. Leftwich is good. His receivers are bad. Very bad. They cannot get a 1st round receiver to work out to save their lives.


I agree with Woodson, he overshot them TWICE.

Not saying he didn't. I was saying that isn't "typcial leftwich".

I think that last play just proved my point

He's a good player. He doesn't have any weapons except out of the backfield. He's one of my favorite players. Liked him since his college days. Tough as nails.

Hes never broken 3,000 yards passing a season...

Reggie Williams, the guy they brought in for him is a 3rd stringer and Matt Jones is a 2nd teamer.

His first 3 years he had Jimmy smith and smith put up 1000 yards twice and 800 the first. And the tough as a nail stuff? He hasnt played a full season yet, Games played has been 15, 14, 11, 6

Nothing to add; just felt left out not being in the threads longest loop. I don't think much of Leftwich though[/quote:3ddca37e35]

But, he's Partial's favorite player.... That ought to count for something.

(I felt left out too). :oops:

[GrnBay007]

OK, my eyes hurt from that long webbed post.

[Him8123]

our D is looking soft on those last 2 plays I dont like that

[Joemailman]

Only in Wisconsin would we get 25 pages for a pre-season game where the starters are out.

Only at Packerrats would that happen.

[Partial]

[quote:55626009fb="Charles Woodson"][quote:55626009fb="Rastak"]What's up with Leftwich? Twice he has a guy and overthrows him....
Hes being the normal leftwich... Nuff said

Poppycock. Leftwich is good. His receivers are bad. Very bad. They cannot get a 1st round receiver to work out to save their lives.


I agree with Woodson, he overshot them TWICE.

Not saying he didn't. I was saying that isn't "typcial leftwich".

I think that last play just proved my point

He's a good player. He doesn't have any weapons except out of the backfield. He's one of my favorite players. Liked him since his college days. Tough as nails.

Hes never broken 3,000 yards passing a season...

Reggie Williams, the guy they brought in for him is a 3rd stringer and Matt Jones is a 2nd teamer.

His first 3 years he had Jimmy smith and smith put up 1000 yards twice and 800 the first. And the tough as a nail stuff? He hasnt played a full season yet, Games played has been 15, 14, 11, 6

He is injury prone, but anyone who is tough enough to play with a broken ankle and have his offensive line carry him down the field is a bad mother. He is tough as tough comes.

He had Jimmy Smith on the back-end of his career and likewise it was at the start of Leftwich's own career. He could easily put up 3k+ if he had a DD.[/quote:55626009fb]

Favre is tough as tough comes, no because he has to get the ball to the reciver to actually get yards. This game has been proof that hes just not tthat good.[/quote:55626009fb]

It's not hard to overshoot someone when they can't beat a ham and don't get any seperation. I'm not saying he is a great quarterback, but he is underrated. He can guide a good team to a super bowl in my opinion. He has a knack about him where he knows how to win games.

[OS PA]

our D is looking soft on those last 2 plays I dont like that

It's our third stringers, can't ask for much.

[Charles Woodson]

[quote:5e81d11fb8="Charles Woodson"][quote:5e81d11fb8="Rastak"]What's up with Leftwich? Twice he has a guy and overthrows him....
Hes being the normal leftwich... Nuff said

Poppycock. Leftwich is good. His receivers are bad. Very bad. They cannot get a 1st round receiver to work out to save their lives.


I agree with Woodson, he overshot them TWICE.

Not saying he didn't. I was saying that isn't "typcial leftwich".

I think that last play just proved my point

He's a good player. He doesn't have any weapons except out of the backfield. He's one of my favorite players. Liked him since his college days. Tough as nails.

Hes never broken 3,000 yards passing a season...

Reggie Williams, the guy they brought in for him is a 3rd stringer and Matt Jones is a 2nd teamer.

His first 3 years he had Jimmy smith and smith put up 1000 yards twice and 800 the first. And the tough as a nail stuff? He hasnt played a full season yet, Games played has been 15, 14, 11, 6

Nothing to add; just felt left out not being in the threads longest loop. I don't think much of Leftwich though[/quote:5e81d11fb8]

But, he's Partial's favorite player.... That ought to count for something.

(I felt left out too). :oops:[/quote:5e81d11fb8]

Btw, if anyone else feels out of the loop, they can feel free to join

[Rastak]

Only in Wisconsin would we get 25 pages for a pre-season game where the starters are out.

Only at Packerrats would that happen.


No shit and 1/4 of them by a Viking fan....LOL

[Him8123]

damn almost a turnover

[Bretsky]

[quote:4c6b295ba0="Charles Woodson"][quote:4c6b295ba0="Rastak"]What's up with Leftwich? Twice he has a guy and overthrows him....
Hes being the normal leftwich... Nuff said

Poppycock. Leftwich is good. His receivers are bad. Very bad. They cannot get a 1st round receiver to work out to save their lives.


I agree with Woodson, he overshot them TWICE.

Not saying he didn't. I was saying that isn't "typcial leftwich".

I think that last play just proved my point

He's a good player. He doesn't have any weapons except out of the backfield. He's one of my favorite players. Liked him since his college days. Tough as nails.

Hes never broken 3,000 yards passing a season...

Reggie Williams, the guy they brought in for him is a 3rd stringer and Matt Jones is a 2nd teamer.

His first 3 years he had Jimmy smith and smith put up 1000 yards twice and 800 the first. And the tough as a nail stuff? He hasnt played a full season yet, Games played has been 15, 14, 11, 6

Nothing to add; just felt left out not being in the threads longest loop. I don't think much of Leftwich though[/quote:4c6b295ba0]

But, he's Partial's favorite player.... That ought to count for something.

(I felt left out too). :oops:[/quote:4c6b295ba0]


Since you are the only one here with 1/2, you need to take one for the team and go for the gusto. :lol: :lol:

[CaliforniaCheez]

Wouldn't it be nice if the Packers practiced tackling??

Too much pressure on the defense.

Need to gain some yards on offense.

[Him8123]

piss poor coverage that play

[Partial]

Only in Wisconsin would we get 25 pages for a pre-season game where the starters are out.

Only at Packerrats would that happen.


No shit and 1/4 of them by a Viking fan....LOL

I was thinking that and keeping it to myself :P

It's good to have the enemy's perspective, though.

Damnit, just gave up a TD.

[OS PA]

I want to see us break a huge one for Jackson here, he has the speed to take it to the house, just needs to get through the first wave.

[RIPackerFan]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

[retailguy]

I'm not saying he is a great quarterback, but he is underrated.

This is a Justin Harrell type post... THINK about what you're saying! This makes ZERO sense.

He's underrated but not a great QB? Who is he, Trent Dilfer?

[Rastak]

Only in Wisconsin would we get 25 pages for a pre-season game where the starters are out.

Only at Packerrats would that happen.


No shit and 1/4 of them by a Viking fan....LOL

I was thinking that and keeping it to myself :P

It's good to have the enemy's perspective, though.

Damnit, just gave up a TD.


I'm bored and this is the NFL game on tonight. Plus, I like the folks here on the board....

[OS PA]

Culver's cut.

[Partial]

Don't lambeau leap you cocky fuck. It's preseason.

Was that Marcedes Lewis?

[Partial]

Only in Wisconsin would we get 25 pages for a pre-season game where the starters are out.

Only at Packerrats would that happen.


No shit and 1/4 of them by a Viking fan....LOL

I was thinking that and keeping it to myself :P

It's good to have the enemy's perspective, though.

Damnit, just gave up a TD.


I'm bored and this is the NFL game on tonight. Plus, I like the folks here on the board....

I wouldn't have it any other way. You didn't answer my ankle question earlier. High ankle sprain??

[Him8123]

still running test on DD

[GrnBay007]

LOL did u see that older lady wiping her cheese hat all over where the Jag attempted the Leap?? Too funny!!

[OS PA]

From an ankle to a foot injury, if it's lisfrac he's gone for the season.

[Rastak]

Oh oh......foot injury......lis franc?

[RIPackerFan]

Just mentioned on TV that it is a foot injury - whaat?

I am thinking that if it is a foot injury - that may be better than an ankle. I don't know.

[Him8123]

Jesus fuckin throw the ball

[retailguy]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

[Partial]

From an ankle to a foot injury, if it's lisfrac he's gone for the season.

Or even a sprained foot. Those are incredibly painful and take forever to heal. It's pretty much the same thing in terms of tendon and ligamint(sp) stretching, but without the actual crack in the bone.

[Rastak]

From an ankle to a foot injury, if it's lisfrac he's gone for the season.


Hard to say...I learned alot about these things but I will say tearing the connective tissue on the top of your foot is a 6 -8 week deal.

[Bretsky]

Is Noah Herron faster than a Nose Guard ?

[woodbuck27]

Green Bay Packers at 07:07

4-A.Elling kicks 70 yards from JAX 30 to GB 0. 13-C.Brewster to GB 27 for 27 yards (39-R.Moulton, 46-G.Estandia).

1-10-GB 27 (7:00) 12-A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to 85-G.Jennings (42-J.Fudge) [57-B.Hawkins].

2-10-GB 27 (6:54) 32-B.Jackson left tackle to GB 34 for 7 yards (91-S.Payne).

3-3-GB 34 (6:18) 12-A.Rodgers sacked at GB 23 for -11 yards (50-T.Gilbert).

4-14-GB 23 (5:58) 9-J.Ryan punts 39 yards to JAX 38, Center-44-C.Harris. 34-A.Pearman to GB 49 for 13 yards (29-T.Culver).

Jacksonville Jaguars at 05:48

1-10-GB 49 (5:48) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 15-J.Broussard to GB 33 for 16 yards (27-W.Blackmon).

1-10-GB 33 (5:09) PENALTY on JAX-61-D.Connolly, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at GB 33 - No Play.

1-15-GB 38 (4:58) 22-L.Toefield left end to GB 34 for 4 yards (52-A.Hodge).

2-11-GB 34 (4:19) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 22-L.Toefield to GB 21 for 13 yards (90-C.Cole).

1-10-GB 21 (3:37) 9-D.Garrard right end to GB 10 for 11 yards (24-J.Bush).

1-10-GB 10 (2:58) 34-A.Pearman right guard to GB 9 for 1 yard (97-J.Jolly).

2-9-GB 9 (2:20) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard FUMBLES (Aborted) at GB 18, and recovers at GB 25. 9-D.Garrard to GB 25 for no gain (57-J.Hunter).

3-25-GB 25 (1:46) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass deep middle to 87-G.Wrighster for 25 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

10-J.Scobee extra point is GOOD, Center-88-J.Zelenka, Holder-3-A.Podlesh.

JAX 14 GB 10 Plays: 7 Possession: 4:08

[Partial]

Just mentioned on TV that it is a foot injury - whaat?

I am thinking that if it is a foot injury - that may be better than an ankle. I don't know.

Worse. Definitely worse.

[Charles Woodson]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

but wouldnt winning games hurt our draft pick status... That must be TT's motive :wink:

[retailguy]

Is Noah Herron faster than a Nose Guard ?

Ole' Cement Shoes Herron? NO. He's not. 8-)

[Him8123]

our 1st string offense and defense looked solid again. our 2nd and 3rd string offense and defense rather shitty tonight

[OS PA]

From an ankle to a foot injury, if it's lisfrac he's gone for the season.


Hard to say...I learned alot about these things but I will say tearing the connective tissue on the top of your foot is a 6 -8 week deal.

Them saying it's a foot injury makes it much worse than an ankle or lower leg. There really isn't much you can do to a foot that won't knock you out for some time. Looking at the play whenever they show it it looks like he bent his foot the wrong way.

[Him8123]

at least compared to last week

[Bretsky]

Why is Nutz posting in a thread all by himself ?

[CaliforniaCheez]

Rodgers again not looking good.

He needs a running game.

Depth for Packers not looking good. They can't tackle.

Time for the defense to get a crash course on tackling before the next series.

[retailguy]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

but wouldnt winning games hurt our draft pick status... That must be TT's motive :wink:

Now you're thinking like a GB GM! :P

Our team just got younger.... The 32 yr old goes to IR, there must be a 16yr old somewhere who needs a job.

[OS PA]

How the hell did he stay on his feet?

[Packnut]

Is Noah Herron faster than a Nose Guard ?


Slowest RB in the NFL

[Rastak]

From an ankle to a foot injury, if it's lisfrac he's gone for the season.

Or even a sprained foot. Those are incredibly painful and take forever to heal. It's pretty much the same thing in terms of tendon and ligamint(sp) stretching, but without the actual crack in the bone.


I just did that myself......I know firsthand since I still have the damn problem. Of course I didnt have top trainers helping me, Driver has the best. Sprained foot is tearing the small ligaments holding the foot bones together and it friggen hurts and takes weeks to heal.


They come in degrees so it could be a lesser injury or something else altogether.

[retailguy]

Why is Nutz posting in a thread all by himself ?

He misses Top Hat?

[Rastak]

:D

[Guiness]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?

[Charles Woodson]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

but wouldnt winning games hurt our draft pick status... That must be TT's motive :wink:

Now you're thinking like a GB GM! :P

Our team just got younger.... The 32 yr old goes to IR, there must be a 16yr old somewhere who needs a job.

But remember, he gets 5.50 an hour and not a penny over

[woodbuck27]

Is Brandon Jackson to blame?

A question from a blogger:

Does it look like it's Jackson's fault that the run game is so poor. He sure looks tentative on tv?

MIKE VANDERMAUSE: Brandon Jackson had just four yards on four carries in the first quarter. For the half, he has 10 yards on 8 carries. Those numbers aren't pretty, and I would agree Jackson is somewhat tentative. The Packers have essentially gone to the air to move the ball. Part of the reason is Jacksonville's defense was ranked fourth in the NFL last season against the rush. The Jags are a tough team to run against, and the Packers are finding that out.

It didn't help the Packers that starting guard Jason Spitz went down in the first half with a calf injury.

Jackson is having a tough go, but I don't put all the blame on him. He at least managed to rush for a 1-yard TD late in the half.

posted by PackersNews.com at 8:34 PM |

[Him8123]

Fuckin missed tackling

[Him8123]

need to learn how to wrap up better

[Charles Woodson]

GB recovers!!

[OS PA]

Turnover!

[Him8123]

nice recovery

[Rastak]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?


What the hell are you doing in Russia?

[Partial]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

Cynic. Smile!

[Him8123]

about time they made a defensive play

[GrnBay007]

'lo all!



Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less?


DD got hurt!! :cry:

[retailguy]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

but wouldnt winning games hurt our draft pick status... That must be TT's motive :wink:

Now you're thinking like a GB GM! :P

Our team just got younger.... The 32 yr old goes to IR, there must be a 16yr old somewhere who needs a job.

But remember, he gets 5.50 an hour and not a penny over

Nah, we can go to $8.50 an hour. We got that 1/2 percent sales tax increase, remember? :wink:

[Charles Woodson]

Sorry - I don't see a big trade made by TT - even in the worst case scenario for Driver.

Cuts are coming and I am sure that he will pick up a veteran or two when those happen.

Just don't see him doing anything major right now.

TRADE? WHY? The draft is coming. We'll address this "problem" with one of our 237 draft picks.

But don't worry. We'll win "some" games.

but wouldnt winning games hurt our draft pick status... That must be TT's motive :wink:

Now you're thinking like a GB GM! :P

Our team just got younger.... The 32 yr old goes to IR, there must be a 16yr old somewhere who needs a job.

But remember, he gets 5.50 an hour and not a penny over

Nah, we can go to $8.50 an hour. We got that 1/2 percent sales tax increase, remember? :wink:

Aha, man though, id love to be a GM some day

[Him8123]

Favre looked good tonight 14-20 130 yds. not bad

[Freak Out]

'lo all!



Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less?


DD got hurt!! :cry:

How bad? :(

[OS PA]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?


What the hell are you doing in Russia?

Good: Favre, Pass Pro, James Jones, Secondary, Kampman
Bad: Run Pro, Run D, 3rd stringers
Worst: Driver might be out for a long time.

[Partial]

I still feel like part of the problem with the running game is they rarely run a stretch or go outside the tackles.

[GrnBay007]

'lo all!



Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less?


DD got hurt!! :cry:

How bad? :(


They haven't said how bad yet. we are in limbo

[RIPackerFan]

First team pass blocking - excellant - Favre had all day to throw.
First team run blocking - poor - Jackson was tentative and there were little to no holes.

When we decided to go through the air - Favre carved them up.

Rogers (at the end of the first half) played with the starting O - and also carved them up.

D played well. While not a lot of first team D pressure, we only rushed 4 - they were keeping in 6 - so we had 7 in coverage. Leftwich was only 4 - 13 (or something like that) and that was a reason why.

We are hitting hard - and first team to first team - we were ahead 10 - 0.

Second team and third team have been playing poor.

[Partial]

'lo all!



Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less?


DD got hurt!! :cry:

How bad? :(

Not sure. They think its a foot injury. Those can be very bad.

[Him8123]

BuLL SHIT CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Rastak]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?


What the hell are you doing in Russia?

Good: Favre, Pass Pro, James Jones, Secondary, Kampman
Bad: Run Pro, Run D, 3rd stringers
Worst: Driver might be out for a long time.


That doesn't answer my question.... :D

[Charles Woodson]

Thats a crap call, the qb was trying to tuck the ball

[PackerTimer]

This has probably been said a thousand times, but the tuck rule has to be one of the worst rules in all of sports.

[Rastak]

Thats a crap call, the qb was trying to tuck the ball
]

Rules is Rules....

[Bretsky]

'lo all!



Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less?


DD got hurt!! :cry:

How bad? :(


Leaving on a Cart is never a good indication

[Him8123]

BULL SHIT BULLSHIT

[Guiness]

DD??? Aye Carumba.

We've all been saying all pre-season that we are absolutely screwed if he goes out. Probably at least as bad as it we lost Favre, and arguably wrost.

[Charles Woodson]

Thats a crap call, the qb was trying to tuck the ball
]

Rules is Rules....

Your not helping :smack: :smack:

[Partial]

US Open is on tonight right :P

[woodbuck27]

'D' after three Qtr's:

Defense T-A SCK INT FF

D. Bishop 5-0 0 0 0
C. Cole 4-0 0 0 0
N. Barnett 3-2 0 0 0
A. Bigby 3-1 0 0 0

J. Bush 2-0 0 0 0
J. Jolly 2-0 0 0 0
R. Pickett 2-0 0 0 0
W. Blackmon 1-0 0 0 0
N. Collins 1-1 0 0 0
S. Havner 1-1 0 0 0
A. Hodge 1-0 0 0 0
J. Hunter 1-1 0 0 0
R. Johnson 1-0 0 0 0
M. Manuel 1-0 0 0 0
A. Rouse 1-0 0 0 0
F. Walker 1-0 0 0 0
A. Kampman 0-1 0 0 0
C. Peprah 0-1 0 0 0
T. White 0-1 0 0 0
C. Woodson 0-1 0 0 0

[Rastak]

Thats a crap call, the qb was trying to tuck the ball
]

Rules is Rules....

Your not helping :smack: :smack:

sorry..... :wink:

[Bretsky]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous

[Rastak]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....

[GrnBay007]

US Open is on tonight right :P

Don't even try it. :wink:

[OS PA]

'D' after three Qtr's:

Defense T-A SCK INT FF

D. Bishop 5-0 0 0 0
C. Cole 4-0 0 0 0
N. Barnett 3-2 0 0 0
A. Bigby 3-1 0 0 0

J. Bush 2-0 0 0 0
J. Jolly 2-0 0 0 0
R. Pickett 2-0 0 0 0
W. Blackmon 1-0 0 0 0
N. Collins 1-1 0 0 0
S. Havner 1-1 0 0 0
A. Hodge 1-0 0 0 0
J. Hunter 1-1 0 0 0
R. Johnson 1-0 0 0 0
M. Manuel 1-0 0 0 0
A. Rouse 1-0 0 0 0
F. Walker 1-0 0 0 0
A. Kampman 0-1 0 0 0
C. Peprah 0-1 0 0 0
T. White 0-1 0 0 0
C. Woodson 0-1 0 0 0

Nothing from Hawk or Poppinga tonight.. weird.

[RashanGary]

Favre has no choice but to spread the ball around now.

[Bretsky]

Gotta love the Viagra commercials; call a doc if erect for more than four hours
I'd throw a party !

[BallHawk]

US Open is on tonight right :P

We're not getting our ass kicked enough, yet. :wink:

[Rastak]

Gotta love the Viagra commercials; call a doc if erect for more than four hours
I'd throw a party !


Plus, the guys are rockin out...no women in sight.....why are they takin Viagra?

[Bretsky]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

[Guiness]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?


What the hell are you doing in Russia?

Good: Favre, Pass Pro, James Jones, Secondary, Kampman
Bad: Run Pro, Run D, 3rd stringers
Worst: Driver might be out for a long time.


That doesn't answer my question.... :D

I was getting there. DD's injury took presedence :cry: :cry:

I'm working, bopping around over here. Fun and games, and I get paid!

[Charles Woodson]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?

[Him8123]

Corey White getting some nice runs

[RIPackerFan]

DD being out is not good - but - if the 0-line cal pass block like they did today, Favre could carve up the D with any receivers.

[Partial]

Najeh Davenpoop rumblin' anyone?!?

[Rastak]

'lo all!

I'm joining this game from Russia! Just got online, and reading back through the thread to see what's been going on.

Anyone care to sum it up for me in 50 words or less? The box score is telling me that Favre had an ok night, we can't run for shit, our OL is taking a beating and our DL isn't getting to the QB. However, we're only down by 4 against a pretty good team that's playing its starters, right?


What the hell are you doing in Russia?

Good: Favre, Pass Pro, James Jones, Secondary, Kampman
Bad: Run Pro, Run D, 3rd stringers
Worst: Driver might be out for a long time.


That doesn't answer my question.... :D

I was getting there. DD's injury took presedence :cry: :cry:

I'm working, bopping around over here. Fun and games, and I get paid!


Moscow? Saint Petersburg?

[Partial]

Juice might have taken more snaps tonight than he has previously in his entire career.

[Joemailman]

Gotta love the Viagra commercials; call a doc if erect for more than four hours
I'd throw a party !

I'd call a press conference.

[woodbuck27]

Thursday, August 23, 2007

Shoddy Packers' defense lifts Jaguars into lead

The backups on the Packers' defense didn't do themselves any favors in the second half. Sloppy tackling and execution led to another Jacksonville touchdown, a 25-yard pass from David Garrard to George Wrighster that put the Jags ahead, 14-10, late in the third quarter. Tyrone Culver was the closest defender on the play. All told, it was a terrible quarter for the Packers' defense. Presumably, some jobs could be lost with that kind of effort.

Garrard finished 6 of 7 for 97 yards in the third quarter.

-- Mike Vandermause
posted by PackersNews.com at 9:16 PM | 0 Comments


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Jaguars finally get into the end zone

LaBrandon Toefield scored on a 1-yard plunge with 7:07 left in the third quarter, and followed by Josh Scobee's extra point, Jacksonville pulled within 10-7.

Both teams are playing with a collection of second- and third-stringers. David Garrard replaced Byron Leftwich at quarterback for the Jaguars, and directed a seven-play, 46-yard drive. Garrard hit Matt Jones for a 26-yard completion on third and 9 to keep the drive alive and move Jacksonville to the Packers' 7.

The score doesn't mean as much as individual performances in the final quarter and a half as several players are fighting for jobs.

-- Mike Vandermause
posted by PackersNews.com at 9:00 PM

[Bretsky]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?

:knll: :glug: :bump: :wave:

[GrnBay007]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?


Look what you are teaching these young boys B. Shame on you!! :butt:

[packinpatland]

I just got in, what is the prognosis on Donald?

[Guiness]

I hadn't looked at Leftwich's passing numbers. So it looks like they sent four, and dared him to beat him with his arm. Funny though, for the low number of completions, no picks.

Did Rastak just mention tennis?????

[Charles Woodson]

Gotta love the Viagra commercials; call a doc if erect for more than four hours
I'd throw a party !

I'd call a press conference.

some one needs to bring out the picture of Mike sherman sleeping durring the combine

[CaliforniaCheez]

Ingle hands off well.

It is up to him to win the game.

[Rastak]

I just got in, what is the prognosis on Donald?


No word.

[Him8123]

nice catch holliday

[Charles Woodson]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?


Look what you are teaching these young boys B. Shame on you!! :butt:

007, thats like the 3rd time youve touched B's butt. How bout lookin at you before you point the blame.... :D jp

[woodbuck27]

'D' after three Qtr's:

Defense T-A SCK INT FF

D. Bishop 5-0 0 0 0
C. Cole 4-0 0 0 0
N. Barnett 3-2 0 0 0
A. Bigby 3-1 0 0 0

J. Bush 2-0 0 0 0
J. Jolly 2-0 0 0 0
R. Pickett 2-0 0 0 0
W. Blackmon 1-0 0 0 0
N. Collins 1-1 0 0 0
S. Havner 1-1 0 0 0
A. Hodge 1-0 0 0 0
J. Hunter 1-1 0 0 0
R. Johnson 1-0 0 0 0
M. Manuel 1-0 0 0 0
A. Rouse 1-0 0 0 0
F. Walker 1-0 0 0 0
A. Kampman 0-1 0 0 0
C. Peprah 0-1 0 0 0
T. White 0-1 0 0 0
C. Woodson 0-1 0 0 0

Nothing from Hawk or Poppinga tonight.. weird.

Popp's been invisable in Pre-Season games.

[GrnBay007]

Did Rastak just mention tennis?????

:?

[Bretsky]

I just got in, what is the prognosis on Donald?

007 is mourning; there will be no prognosis til tomorrow IMO

[Charles Woodson]

nice bounce to the outside by white

[Him8123]

White`s looking like a viable number 3

[Rastak]

Did Rastak just mention tennis?????

:?


Partial...not me! I'm still F'ing rehabbing this F'ing foot/ankle....



Did I mention I'm pissed....I can't play dammit!

[GrnBay007]

C'mon Packers. 7 min left.........lets win this game!! :cow:

[retailguy]

Favre has no choice but to spread the ball around now.


Yeah. That'll work. :x

[Bretsky]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?


Look what you are teaching these young boys B. Shame on you!! :butt:

007, thats like the 3rd time youve touched B's butt. How bout lookin at you before you point the blame.... :D jp


:bclap:

I see you are learning early that the chick will always blame the dude

[Him8123]

they should go for it

[BallHawk]

Crosby is money.

[Charles Woodson]

Has crosby missed a FG yet?

[RIPackerFan]

Didn't someone mention that teams who win all their preseason games usually aren't good - maybe this is a plan by MM to make sure we lose a couple.

[Guiness]

Did White just run himself onto the team??? Nice string of runs there...he ran for three first downs in a row!

St-Pete or Moscow? No, hardly. Other end of the country, and a damn sight nearer Siberia than anything else. I'm at the north end of Sakhalin Island. But yes, the women are pretty damn amazing. And considering the shape my marriage is in right now... :(

[Bretsky]

Crosby; I like that dude better than our K from last year

[GrnBay007]

:butt:

007, thats like the 3rd time youve touched B's butt. How bout lookin at you before you point the blame.... :D jp

That's not a touch. That's a kick in da ass!!

[woodbuck27]

Rushing CAR YDS TD LG


C. White 9 54 0 12

B. Jackson 11 20 1 7

N. Herron 3 4 0 4

[Charles Woodson]

I've only met 2 Russian girls in my life; both wild touchy party animal chicks.
I'm jealous


I want to marry Maria Sharapova.....


I like Jenny Finch, but I spose I could be tempted by Maria as well

How bout going graily, and doing both?


Look what you are teaching these young boys B. Shame on you!! :butt:

007, thats like the 3rd time youve touched B's butt. How bout lookin at you before you point the blame.... :D jp


:bclap:

I see you are learning early that the chick will always blame the dude

Well, B i learn from the best, what can i say? :five:

[Charles Woodson]

:butt:

007, thats like the 3rd time youve touched B's butt. How bout lookin at you before you point the blame.... :D jp

That's not a touch. That's a kick in da ass!!

Excuses, excuses....

[Rastak]

Didn't someone mention that teams who win all their preseason games usually aren't good - maybe this is a plan by MM to make sure we lose a couple.


Colts were 0-4 and won the superbowl I believe....


Under Tice the Vikes went 4-0 at least once and sucked.


W/L in preseason isn't critical, it's how the starters and second team looks.

[BallHawk]

Well, B i learn from the best, what can i say? :five:

Is your natural enemy the capital I?

[Rastak]

Did White just run himself onto the team??? Nice string of runs there...he ran for three first downs in a row!

St-Pete or Moscow? No, hardly. Other end of the country, and a damn sight nearer Siberia than anything else. I'm at the north end of Sakhalin Island. But yes, the women are pretty damn amazing. And considering the shape my marriage is in right now... :(


Oh well, enjoy guiness....

[RashanGary]

Yeah. That'll work. :x

We have no choice. That injury hurts. Jones plays Drivers position so he should get a lot of balls this year. Maybe Favre will look to Jennings more with Driver out as well.

[footballfever]

did ya'll see that fat chick cheerleader!?!?!?!??!?! holy gross batman

[Rastak]

did ya'll see that fat chick cheerleader!?!?!?!??!?! holy gross batman


Now that isn't real nice.....

[CaliforniaCheez]

Some of you like Chuck Woodson are really slowing down the board with the mega quotes. Please be nice and restrict that activity.

[footballfever]

hahahha sorrrrrrrrry couldn't help it, did anyone else see that????

[retailguy]

Yeah. That'll work. :x

We have no choice. That injury hurts. Jones plays Drivers position so he should get a lot of balls this year. Maybe Favre will look to Jennings more with Driver out as well.


we HAD choices and decided to pass on them. Literally. This is what happens to you when you put all your eggs in one basket. You need to PLAN for shit like this.

Oh, but wait. That's part of my BUSINESS training... Nevermind. Carry on.

[retailguy]

Some of you like Chuck Woodson are really slowing down the board with the mega quotes. Please be nice and restrict that activity.

Mom? Is it you? :shock:

[Him8123]

this D sucks

[RIPackerFan]

Well, the good news about this type of the end of the game - our coaches have easier decisions to make regarding who gets cut.

[Bretsky]

not a bad showing tonight

[RashanGary]

RG, any team is going to have a hard time replacing a probowl talent. It's part of the game but it always hurts when it happens. We have pretty good #2, #3, #4 adn #5 WR's but they aren't as good when they all slide up a notch.

[retailguy]

If Donald is hurt as bad as some of us fear, David Clowney might be the luckiest guy in GB tonight.

[Rastak]

not a bad showing tonight


Yea, overall, I would agree....the running was bad but they moved the ball and the defense was very solid.

[Him8123]

got the ball back

[retailguy]

RG, any team is going to have a hard time replacing a probowl talent. It's part of the game but it always hurts when it happens. We have pretty good #2, #3, #4 adn #5 WR's but they aren't as good when they all slide up a notch.

So, maybe, just maybe, if we had better running backs and a veteran receiver or two for competition, we just might be in better shape then we are now? Is that what you're saying? HMM?

[PackerTimer]

Did Brett just say that DD looked like he would be ok?

[Him8123]

is Jack del rio gonna challenge that too??

[RashanGary]

If Donald is hurt as bad as some of us fear, David Clowney might be the luckiest guy in GB tonight.

Shudder. . .

I can't stand Clowney.

[GrnBay007]

Did Bret just say that DD looked like he woudl be ok?

Didn't hear it. The noise level in this house is unreal.

[Bretsky]

JOHN STOCCO CAN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN INGLE FRICKIN MARTIN

[Him8123]

fucking ingle martin sux ASS

[Bretsky]

AND THEN HE GIVES THE TD AWAY RIGHT AFTER MY POST

[Charles Woodson]

Did Bret just say that DD looked like he woudl be ok?

i heard that too, and im really hopeing that hes right

[RIPackerFan]

Who was he passing that to?

[Rastak]

Did Bret just say that DD looked like he woudl be ok?

Didn't hear it. The noise level in this house is unreal.

He said he seemed to be ok....

[retailguy]

not a bad showing tonight

Yes, it was overall better than I expected. It was costly, but, in the NFL, that's the way that it goes sometimes.

OL pass blocking was very good, run blocking was not so hot. James Jones continues to look good.

Wonder who'll step it up at receiver?

[Brohm]

Cya Martin.

[Him8123]

CUT MARTIN AND THOMPSON

[PackerTimer]

Martin is terrible.

[Rastak]

Don't be bummed people...Packers won the real game....

[RIPackerFan]

Remember - this if Favre talking and I am sure that he is thinking about how he would react to the injury - thus unless DD was missing a limb - Favre of course would say he looked fine.

[Him8123]

maybe we can get Drew Bledsoe out of retirement to be our 3rd stringer haha

[MJZiggy]

Don't be bummed people...Packers won the real game....

I am bummed. I was kinda rootin' for Ingle to be #3.

[Guiness]

Wow - with Martin and Thompson's showings these past two weeks, I'm betting The Pack either picks up someone else's castoff at cutdowns, or goes with 2 QBs

[Bretsky]

TD AND TWO POINT CONVERSION AND THEN OT

COME ON INGLEBIRD

[retailguy]

maybe we can get Drew Bledsoe out of retirement to be our 3rd stringer haha

Do we need a 3rd stringer? Couldn't we carry 7 receivers instead?

[Charles Woodson]

maybe we can get Drew Bledsoe out of retirement to be our 3rd stringer haha

i was thinking more like kurt warner, or i heard vinny testaverny is still playing :P

[Spaulding]

JOHN STOCCO CAN'T BE ANY WORSE THAN INGLE FRICKIN MARTIN

The curse???

[Him8123]

There is no reason to keep Martin or Thompson they both are extemely fucking horrible awful

[RashanGary]

We just lost our best offensive weapon. It's going to hurt no matter what. Could we have been slightly better with some UFA signing? Yeah, we probably could have but what it costs for the small amount it gains makes it a bad decision often times. I don't think there were many players out there that would have made a big difference on this team. Travis Henry was about the only one I can think of.

[Him8123]

I`d hang myself if I had to watch Martin be our QB

[Him8123]

Free Agency was rather weak this year

[Him8123]

There`s next year, isn`t Turner from SD gonna be available??

[PackerTimer]

There is no reason to keep Martin or Thompson they both are extemely fucking horrible awful

At this point I would go with 2 QB's and use the roster spot for more depth at another position.

[RashanGary]

Don't be bummed people...Packers won the real game....

Lost Driver though. Our ones played and won. Then our twos mixed with ones held our own against their ones. Then our twos lost to their ones, then our threes lost to their twos, then our threes played even with their threes.

I thought we looked like the better team. I still think this team is very good (defense, ST's) with an offnese that will struggle now that Driver is out. We'll still win games. Hopefully we get Driver back at some point in the season.

[retailguy]

We just lost our best offensive weapon. It's going to hurt no matter what. Could we have been slightly better with some UFA signing? Yeah, we probably could have but what it costs for the small amount it gains makes it a bad decision often times. I don't think there were many players out there that would have made a big difference on this team. Travis Henry was about the only one I can think of.

Ok, whatever dude. If Driver turns out to be hurt, and Thank God there is at least a little hope that he's not hurt bad, but if he is, you still think we're playoff bound?

There is one big IF that just went the other way. You needed about 15 for a great season, now you need 16.

What did you think of the running game? Progressing as you thought it would?

[RIPackerFan]

I feel pretty good.

We lost the game - but when we played starters vs. starters, we were up 10 - 0.

D looked tough - O-line pass blocked great - JJ looked good - Favre played well.

O-line blocking was poor - need to improve on that - but how much of that is due to the Jags great run D?

DD getting hurt is bad - though I do feel better with Favre smiling at the end - he would know more than anyone else on how Driver was - and if it was bad, I don't think he would be as happy.

[Joemailman]

I suspect we may have seen Ingle Martin's last pass. Pack may go with 2 QB's, because with Driver's injury, they may have to go with 6 WR's.

[Bretsky]

[quote=JustinHarrell]We just lost our best offensive weapon. It's going to hurt no matter what. Could we have been slightly better with some UFA signing? Yeah, we probably could have but what it costs for the small amount it gains makes it a bad decision often times. I don't think there were many players out there that would have made a big difference on this team. Travis Henry was about the only one I can think of.

Ok, whatever dude. If Driver turns out to be hurt, and Thank God there is at least a little hope that he's not hurt bad, but if he is, you still think we're playoff bound?

There is one big IF that just went the other way. You needed about 15 for a great season, now you need 16.

What did you think of the running game? Progressing as you thought it would?[/quote


Let's not brawl here; it's only preseason. Since I lowered my expectations a month or so ago I'm much more at peace.

I'm going into this year to watch a defense develop and watch Favre break records.

Wins are a bonus.

[RIPackerFan]

I really think there will be a bunch of veteran receivers released as the cuts come down. The Pats have 12 receivers - they have to cut some.

[Bretsky]

[quote=JustinHarrell]We just lost our best offensive weapon. It's going to hurt no matter what. Could we have been slightly better with some UFA signing? Yeah, we probably could have but what it costs for the small amount it gains makes it a bad decision often times. I don't think there were many players out there that would have made a big difference on this team. Travis Henry was about the only one I can think of.

Ok, whatever dude. If Driver turns out to be hurt, and Thank God there is at least a little hope that he's not hurt bad, but if he is, you still think we're playoff bound?

There is one big IF that just went the other way. You needed about 15 for a great season, now you need 16.

What did you think of the running game? Progressing as you thought it would?[/quote




Let's not brawl here; it's only preseason. Since I lowered my expectations a month or so ago I'm much more at peace.

I'm going into this year to watch a defense develop and watch Favre break records.

Wins are a bonus.

[CaliforniaCheez]

No reason to lose to a Jerk like Del Rio.

Del Rio was contaminated with purple slime long ago and it still shows.
It is another disgusting home loss that no one should be happy about.

Shameful tackling by the defense, again.

Why McCarthy can't get these fools to use a shoulder and wrap up is inexcusable!!

Rodgers inability to get first downs in the 3rd quarter cost the game.

Why call Herron's number on 3rd and 1? Let him run on second down and let White have it on 3rd down.

The second half was so poor that many of these bums should be cut tomorrow.

I loathe Del Rio.

[RashanGary]

I thought the running game looked good last week. We just went up against two of the best DT's in the game and they were playing the run, allwoing the pass. We still moved the ball on them, taking what is given. I'm OK with points no matter how they come. If a team wants to stop the run and they are good at it, I'm OK with taking the pass.

As far as our team, Driver was a big part of our offense but that is part of the game. Guys go down. A lot of teams are going to lose guys between now and the end of the sesaon. It forces Favre to share the ball and get comfortable with the other guys. We'll see how it goes I guess. We still have a very good defense, what looks to be a good ST's and an offense that is now without their only proven weapon. It hurts but I'm not going to assume that they are done.

[Him8123]

yea they definitely looked like they had Pam sprayed on their arms in the second half they way they were tackling

[MJZiggy]

No reason to lose to a Jerk like Del Rio.

Del Rio was contaminated with purple slime long ago and it still shows.
It is another disgusting home loss that no one should be happy about.

Shameful tackling by the defense, again.

Why McCarthy can't get these fools to use a shoulder and wrap up is inexcusable!!

Rodgers inability to get first downs in the 3rd quarter cost the game.

Why call Herron's number on 3rd and 1? Let him run on second down and let White have it on 3rd down.

The second half was so poor that many of these bums should be cut tomorrow.

I loathe Del Rio.

I sense a bit of animosity here...But the first team tackled rather well I thought.

[Bretsky]

I really think there will be a bunch of veteran receivers released as the cuts come down. The Pats have 12 receivers - they have to cut some.


Completely agree, but I'd highly doubt TT takes a flyer on a vet receiver that would help more now and sacrifice a young player who might develop later.

Pats WR

Randy Moss
Donte Stallworth
Wes Welker
Kelly Washington
Reche Caldwell
Jackson (the 2nd year player)


All pretty good talent on paper, but I'd doubt we claim one anyways

[RIPackerFan]

Whoa CaliCheese - the Jags still had their starters in the third - going against our seconds. You should expect to lose that battle.

As far as the tacking is concerned - most of that was done by the third string and will make the cuts easier.

Some of the seconds - Bishop - Rouse - seemed to hit and wrap well. I still feel pretty good.

[Joemailman]

No reason to lose to a Jerk like Del Rio.

Del Rio was contaminated with purple slime long ago and it still shows.
It is another disgusting home loss that no one should be happy about.

Shameful tackling by the defense, again.

Why McCarthy can't get these fools to use a shoulder and wrap up is inexcusable!!

Rodgers inability to get first downs in the 3rd quarter cost the game.

Why call Herron's number on 3rd and 1? Let him run on second down and let White have it on 3rd down.

The second half was so poor that many of these bums should be cut tomorrow.

I loathe Del Rio.

You seem to be very upset with a lot of guys who will be on the bench once the season starts.

[RIPackerFan]

Would we need to pick a veteran off of waivers - if they get cut, aren't they automatically FAs?

[Partial]

RG, any team is going to have a hard time replacing a probowl talent. It's part of the game but it always hurts when it happens. We have pretty good #2, #3, #4 adn #5 WR's but they aren't as good when they all slide up a notch.

So, maybe, just maybe, if we had better running backs and a veteran receiver or two for competition, we just might be in better shape then we are now? Is that what you're saying? HMM?

That doesn't appear to be what he is saying at all.

[Rastak]

No reason to lose to a Jerk like Del Rio.

Del Rio was contaminated with purple slime long ago and it still shows.
It is another disgusting home loss that no one should be happy about.

Shameful tackling by the defense, again.

Why McCarthy can't get these fools to use a shoulder and wrap up is inexcusable!!

Rodgers inability to get first downs in the 3rd quarter cost the game.

Why call Herron's number on 3rd and 1? Let him run on second down and let White have it on 3rd down.

The second half was so poor that many of these bums should be cut tomorrow.

I loathe Del Rio.


You have issues dude.

If you equate life to a fucking game and associate people's worth with who employs them then I gotta wonder.

[RashanGary]

Next week we get to see Jennings and Jones as the premier guys. They both catch the ball better than Driver. Hopefully they can get on teh same page with Brett and get open.

[Brohm]

I think Rodgers played alright, given the crap he had blocking for him once the 1's left. He was getting killed back there. Definately growing up. That one play he got sacked and wanted to spike the ball in anger, caught himself and just flipped it to the ref.

[MJZiggy]

Next week we get to see Jennings and Jones as the premier guys. They both catch the ball better than Driver. Hopefully they can get on teh same page with Brett and get open.

They've got a week to figure it out.

[Him8123]

Jennings and Jones...The next Brooks and Ferguson??

[MJZiggy]

I think Rodgers played alright, given the crap he had blocking for him once the 1's left. He was getting killed back there. I thought he was a little slow sensing the rush this week and there were a couple of times he just needed to throw it away instead of taking a huge loss...

[Him8123]

sorry meant brooks and freeman

[RashanGary]

That's fine, RG got his first big break of the off season. I can take it, I dish it just as hard.

Driver went down. We'll see how the offense plays. Brett has done good things with a lot of WR's and he has the best pass protection in three years. It's a tough break, but now the team has to show resiliancy and do it with different guys.

[Him8123]

what was I thinking stupid

[RashanGary]

I thought he was a little slow sensing the rush this week and there were a couple of times he just needed to throw it away instead of taking a huge loss...

I agree. Rodgers looked pretty good with the 1's and early with the twos but when he got pressure, he let it beat him.

[retailguy]

That's fine, RG got his first big break of the off season. I can take it, I dish it just as hard.

Driver went down. We'll see how the offense plays. Brett has done good things with a lot of WR's and he has the best pass protection in three years. It's a tough break, but now the team has to show resiliancy and do it with different guys.

Yeah. I'm just really celebrating over here.... Do you actually believe the shit you spew?

[Joemailman]

Next week we get to see Jennings and Jones as the premier guys. They both catch the ball better than Driver. Hopefully they can get on teh same page with Brett and get open.

Go to practice if you want to see it because you'll probably only see Brett for a series or 2 in the game.

[Brohm]

I think Rodgers played alright, given the crap he had blocking for him once the 1's left. He was getting killed back there. I thought he was a little slow sensing the rush this week and there were a couple of times he just needed to throw it away instead of taking a huge loss...

With the way they were blocking, I would hope he would get a "feel" for it soon :P

[MJZiggy]

I think Rodgers played alright, given the crap he had blocking for him once the 1's left. He was getting killed back there. I thought he was a little slow sensing the rush this week and there were a couple of times he just needed to throw it away instead of taking a huge loss...

With the way they were blocking, I would hope he would get a "feel" for it soon :P

Practice makes perfect???

[CaliforniaCheez]

You have issues dude.

If you equate life to a fucking game and associate people's worth with who employs them then I gotta wonder.

The is no excuse for profanity or profane purple slime.

[Him8123]

Donald has a full sprain

[Him8123]

or foot sprain I mean

[retailguy]

Donald has a full sprain

well, that's bad, but still a gift. Thank God.

[Him8123]

at least its not season threatning

[RIPackerFan]

So any ideas on recovery time?

[RashanGary]

RG, everyone's having a good time. I feel like we're bringing the tone down.

Anyway, we did some things well. We beat a good team with our #1's again, for the third week and we held pretty even with our 2's against their 1's and our 3's against their 2's for a big portion of the game.

The running game had a tough time, but the pass pro was really good and the #1 offense moved the ball well against a legit top 5 D.


There were some good things and bad things. I thought we looked like the better team when the 1's were in and Jax is a playoff team just like SEattle and Pittsburgh. We'll see what happens against the Eagles. I like the hands of our WR's. I just hope they find ways to get open.

[Him8123]

can hear everyone letting a sigh of relief out now

[Lurker64]

How long a recovery period are we talking? Probably a sprained foot is the best we could have hoped for given that we knew "foot injury" and "carted off the field."

[Him8123]

at least nothing broke or torn

[Guiness]

You have issues dude.

If you equate life to a fucking game and associate people's worth with who employs them then I gotta wonder.

that doesn't count if they were employed by the Bears though, right? :twisted:

[Him8123]

I would imagine as tough Driver is couple weeks. They said he was in a pretty good mood. Cant be too bad

[RashanGary]

I'm going to guess 6 games. The foot always seems to linger.

[Partial]

Yeah. That'll work. :x

We have no choice. That injury hurts. Jones plays Drivers position so he should get a lot of balls this year. Maybe Favre will look to Jennings more with Driver out as well.


we HAD choices and decided to pass on them. Literally. This is what happens to you when you put all your eggs in one basket. You need to PLAN for shit like this.

Oh, but wait. That's part of my BUSINESS training... Nevermind. Carry on.

Who might you have signed out of free agency that would be better than our 4th receiver? I can't name a name. I want an answer!

[RIPackerFan]

This is the third week our number 1s have beaten the number 1s of possible play-off teams.

Does anyone thing we will get any more respect from the national press now?

Personally, I don't.

[Him8123]

The way their talking the sprain doesnt seem that major. Mccarthy doesnt know alot he only talked to the trainer for 10 minutes. Says driver says he`s feeling pretty good just icing it

[Bretsky]

Yeah. That'll work. :x

We have no choice. That injury hurts. Jones plays Drivers position so he should get a lot of balls this year. Maybe Favre will look to Jennings more with Driver out as well.


we HAD choices and decided to pass on them. Literally. This is what happens to you when you put all your eggs in one basket. You need to PLAN for shit like this.

Oh, but wait. That's part of my BUSINESS training... Nevermind. Carry on.

Who might you have signed out of free agency that would be better than our 4th receiver? I can't name a name. I want an answer!


Are you serious; I'm at peace with all this. But it's nuts to say there was nobody better than our #4 WR

Without even looking at the list of free agents

Donte Stallworth
Drew Bennett
Kevin Curtis.

Homerism aside, all established and clearly better than Ruvell Martin. Worth the price ? Who knows. But they were better.

[retailguy]

RG, everyone's having a good time. I feel like we're bringing the tone down.




You can try to take the "high" road, I guess, but I've put up with your stupid little judgemental jabs for 4 months now. It's a little late.


Parts of the team looked good. Somewhat promising. I have always maintained that it is not enough for a playoff run, and I still feel that way, but we might actually get a fair amount of progress this year. I was hoping for that last year, but, in spite of the 4 game win streak didn't feel like it happened.

We'll see. I'm looking forward to the Eagles. It'll give us a much better idea of where this team is really at.

for the first time in several years I'm really encouraged about special teams. While that may sound stupid, I really am.

[Joemailman]

This is the third week our number 1s have beaten the number 1s of possible play-off teams.

Does anyone thing we will get any more respect from the national press now?

Personally, I don't.

Not until we beat a playoff team in the regular season.

[MJZiggy]

This is the third week our number 1s have beaten the number 1s of possible play-off teams.

Does anyone thing we will get any more respect from the national press now?

Personally, I don't.

Are you kidding? We didn't win the SB last year, so no, no respect this year. National press are airheads who supposedly look good on TV. I could argue that point as well.

[Partial]

Anna sprained her foot back in March. Still can't run full speed on it yet.

Foot sprains take a damn long time to heel and they hurt like a mother. The ligaments get all stretched and nasty. This can lead to arches collasping and that has all sorts of problems on its own.

[PackerTimer]

This is the third week our number 1s have beaten the number 1s of possible play-off teams.

Does anyone thing we will get any more respect from the national press now?

Personally, I don't.

We fail to get respect from alot of people here. If they can keep this up in the regular season, the respect will come.

[Him8123]

man ya`ll talking like Driver is done for the year.. relax he`ll be back

[BallHawk]

As long as we have Driver back by late-September, early-October, I think we can manage. We're going to miss him, though. Jones is going to become the go-to-guy. That scares me, a bit.

[Him8123]

it also depends on how bad the sprain is. Also pros have better doctors and equipment than you and I or other people you know. these guys recover faster. Look at like Palmer tearing his knee and coming back in a year normal people cant do that

[PackerTimer]

Anna sprained her foot back in March. Still can't run full speed on it yet.

Foot sprains take a damn long time to heel and they hurt like a mother. The ligaments get all stretched and nasty. This can lead to arches collasping and that has all sorts of problems on its own.

This pretty much is consistent with what I have heard of sprained feet. They can take a looooooong time to heal.

[Partial]

Yeah. That'll work. :x

We have no choice. That injury hurts. Jones plays Drivers position so he should get a lot of balls this year. Maybe Favre will look to Jennings more with Driver out as well.


we HAD choices and decided to pass on them. Literally. This is what happens to you when you put all your eggs in one basket. You need to PLAN for shit like this.

Oh, but wait. That's part of my BUSINESS training... Nevermind. Carry on.

Who might you have signed out of free agency that would be better than our 4th receiver? I can't name a name. I want an answer!


Are you serious; I'm at peace with all this. But it's nuts to say there was nobody better than our #4 WR

Without even looking at the list of free agents

Donte Stallworth
Drew Bennett
Kevin Curtis.

Homerism aside, all established and clearly better than Ruvell Martin. Worth the price ? Who knows. But they were better.


Donte Stallworth sure. But, he is going to command first receiver money. Did we really want to pay a second first receiver when we have jennings?!? He is a good player but I question the impact he'd have on our team.

Drew Bennett is just a guy. Getting up there in age, too.

Kevin Curtis is fast but unproven. Didn't do a lot in STL.

I agree they're better than Ruvell. But are they better than DD, Jennings and JJ? Would it have been worth the price? I doubt it. All of those guys got huge, inflated salaries for very little performance. Bennett's performance was almost by default because who else did McNair and co over the past few years have to throw to?

For what its worth, solid rebuttle. I completely forgot about Curtis and Stallworth being free agents. But, RG was implying we should have a 1b to cope with the injury. None of these guys are 1b imo. They might even be 2b behind The Natural.

The Natural is a nickname I am starting for Greg Jennings. I'm taking it global.

[Lurker64]

Given our receiving corps though, you have to admit Driver doesn't have to be full speed to make a major contribution. If he's 85% and not at risk of reinjuring himself, he'll be on the field.

[RashanGary]

I probably started a lot of the ill will. YOu have sarcasm that annoys the piss out of me so I probably made it a bigger deal than it is.

I still think tehy have a team that is capable of the playoffs. They've outplayed some good teams this preseason. It's not time to panic but this is as close to panic as I've gotten all off season. This injury hurts. Hopefully Brett gets real comfortable with his other WR's and then when Driver comes back everyone is better for it. I think that Jennings and Jones both have better hands than Driver. If FAvre throws them the ball (and he has to now), I think they can make plays.

[Partial]

Anna sprained her foot back in March. Still can't run full speed on it yet.

Foot sprains take a damn long time to heel and they hurt like a mother. The ligaments get all stretched and nasty. This can lead to arches collasping and that has all sorts of problems on its own.

This pretty much is consistent with what I have heard of sprained feet. They can take a looooooong time to heal.

Very, very long time. Very painful to get around. They better keep taking X-rays because Lisfrac is often missed when examining a swollen foot that is the by-product of a sprained foot. The doctors at UW hospital thought she broke a bone but it turned out she did not.

[BallHawk]

Given our receiving corps though, you have to admit Driver doesn't have to be full speed to make a major contribution. If he's 85% and not at risk of reinjuring himself, he'll be on the field.

If he's he's around 70%, I'd think they might send him out a few times a game, just to get him warmed up.

[RashanGary]

One thing I noticed about the run game is that the OL didn't cut block. They went belly to belly with the big guys. I think it might be a preseason courtesy not to cut probowl guys.

[retailguy]

Given our receiving corps though, you have to admit Driver doesn't have to be full speed to make a major contribution. If he's 85% and not at risk of reinjuring himself, he'll be on the field.

If he's he's around 70%, I'd think they might send him out a few times a game, just to get him warmed up.

We just might see him out there in a wheelchair next week...

[Bretsky]

Oops, Partial. I misread your info and thought you were indicating who out there was better than our #4 as opposed to who we should have signed that was better than our #4.

I'm not going down that road again; I've put my free agency views to rest and am anxious to watch Favre break records this year and our defense develop.

I don't know who was worth the money and who was not and I've flushed all of my free agency wishes down the toilet for the season.

[RashanGary]

I'm curious to see how Favre responds without Driver. We have guys who are just as capable of making plays. Will they make them when they get the ball? We'll find out soon enough.

[Partial]

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Post game show is stremaing agian. Go to listen live.

[BallHawk]

I'm curious to see how Favre responds without Driver. We have guys who are just as capable of making plays. Will they make them when they get the ball? We'll find out soon enough.

I'll save you the suspense; A lot of f-bombs and shouting.

[retailguy]

Ok, lets try this.

You know how devastated I was when Thompson let Green leave. Not because Green was the end all, be all, but because we hadn't really developed ANYONE to take his place. Yes, he's old, yes he's on the downside, yes he got overpaid. NONE of it really matters as he's still a hell of a lot better than what we've got.

Ignore the money for just a minute. How would a backfield of Green, Morency, and Jackson look headed into this season?

In addition to forcing the defender to respect the run, we've now taken a little pressure off both the OL, and the WR corps.

Now. I still don't believe that Green needed the contract he got to remain in GB. There WAS an opportunity to lock him up before free agency. It is pretty likely that Green got lowballed. We had the money, we could have overpaid a little.

Partial - you're bitching about receivers, I could care less about receivers. We need RB's and TE's. They COMPLEMENT the Wr corps. Our young guys will be fine if we don't need to DEPEND on them.

As to the sarcasm, yes, I guess there has been enough of that. But what you don't realize, is, it is the only thing I've successfully used to "lower my expectations" as Bretsky puts it.

this team is not very good in several areas, and very unproven in others. Relying on "IFS" has never been a strong point for me.

I've been clear. I DO NOT LIKE Ted's short term plan. I like the long term one. I think this team will be pretty good in 2009, and perhaps 2008, if some things go pretty well.

[Partial]

Nothing like a nice Miller Chill to take the edge off after a nice game.

[RashanGary]

I hear ya RG. I'll eat my words and be humbled if we suck. I don't think Driver going down is enough of an excuse for this team to just fall off. We still have Favre. We still have an Oline that has been really good in pass pro. We still have WR's who can catch the ball and make plays with the ball. You have fair complaints and concerns. We'll just have to see how it goes against Philly. We've still outplayed three playoff teams in the preaseason. Things don't look as good as they did three hours ago but they still look good IMO.

[Carolina_Packer]

Looks like the only remaining "big name" free agent out there is Antonio Bryant. Koren Robinson cannot come back quickly enough!

Here's hoping that whatever happened to Driver isn't so serious.

[Partial]

Yes, has anyone verified if it is a foot sprain?

[Partial]

Corey Williams live on the post game show..

[Joemailman]

McCarthy has said the team doctor said it's a foot sprain.

[RashanGary]

haha, that Krob signing last year might come into play after all. I never thought that guy would get another chance here, but if Driver is out for 8+ weeks, Robinson might be our best bet.