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TopHat
08-26-2007, 07:29 PM
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Sunday, August 26, 2007

Practice wrap-up

Taking all the reps today for the first time in weeks, punter Jon Ryan average 49.06 yards and 4.6 seconds of hang time on 16 punts. Two of Ryan's punts traveled 60 yards, while only two went less than 40. He also had one blocked. The Packers released punter Ryan Dougherty on Friday.

Elsewhere ...

-- With Jason Spitz (calf) sitting out, Junius Coston played right guard with the first unit. Rookie Allen Barbre and Tyson Walter each rotated in for a series at left guard, while regular left guard Daryn Colledge got some work at left tackle.
-- Coaches shuffled players throughout the defense during opponent work. The most notable change was to the cornerback pairings. Starters Charles Woodson and Al Harris worked together as usual, but Will Blackmon -- not Patrick Dendy -- was paired with Jarrett Bush as the second pairing. Dendy, the No. 3 cornerback until Bush passed him last week, worked with Frank Walker.
-- Recently demoted safety Marquand Manuel spent a few plays alongside starting free safety Nick Collins but played mostly alongside soon-to-be-released reserve Alvin Nnabuife.
-- Rookie running back DeShawn Wynn, back at practice for the first time in nearly three weeks, had a simple swing pass go straight through his hands. He also struggled with the blocking sled because his pad level was too high.
-- The No. 1 offense's 2-minute drill included a long completion down the right sideline to rookie receiver James Jones, who'd beaten Walker. But the drive stalled after that, with two draws, a badly thrown fade from Brett Favre to Greg Jennings, and a bullet intended for Zac Alcorn with Desmond Bishop in coverage.
-- Rookie defensive end Larry Birdine left late in practice because of leg cramps.
-- Carlyle Holiday dropped two passes, while rookie David Clowney had a series of nice catches.
-- A bad drop by Chris Francies led to an easy interception for rookie linebacker Rory Johnson. Dendy also had an interception on a ball Paul Thompson threw to Francies.
-- Alcorn had the catch of the day, a one-handed stab on a high throw into the left flat. Ruvell Martin came in a close second with his leaping grab over Blackmon and Tyrone Culver.
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Favre could play at Tennessee

Going back on his hunch Brett Favre wouldn't play in the preseason finale, coach Mike McCarthy said today his starting quarterback could play one or two series Thursday at Tennessee, though no final decision has been reached. McCarthy said the starting offense likely would play a little more than the starting defense, though that will be dictated by practice.

INJURY REPORT

WR Donald Driver (foot) and RG Jason Spitz (calf), who left last week's game with injuries, will not play against Tennessee. But McCarthy said he's hopeful both will be ready for the season opener Sept. 9 against Philadelphia. McCarthy repeated he is hopeful RB Vernand Morency (knee) also will suit up for the opener. RB Brandon Jackson left practice and did not return after LB Brady Poppinga knocked him to the ground on a running play during the 2-minute drill. S Aaron Rouse sat out practice because of a tight hamstring and LB Spencer Havner a back strain. LB Abdul Hodge sat out because of knee tendonitis, which has plagued him throughout camp. McCarthy said the injury flared up again.CB Will Blackmon has a sprained thumb but practiced.
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Crosby edges Rayner in field-goal drill

Rookie Mason Crosby held a slight edge over incumbent Dave Rayner as he has done for most of training camp. During a field-goal drill, Crosby booted 6 of 6 field goals, compared with Rayner's 5 of 6. Crosby made kicks from 27, 27, 34, 34, 44 and 50 yards. Rayner kicked from the same distances, and his one miss was wide left from 44 yards. He wasn't helped by a low snap from backup Clark Harris on the missed kick.
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Rouse, Havner miss practice

A couple of new faces were added to the injured list today. Safety Aaron Rouse and linebacker Spencer Havner did not practice at today's 10:45 a.m. workout on Clarke Hinkle Field. The nature of the injuries to Rouse and Havner was not immediately known. Also in shorts and not practicing were Abdul Hodge, Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Tony Palmer, Orrin Thompson, Jason Spitz, Tony Moll and Vernand Morency. Not in attendance in practice today were Donald Driver, Shaun Bodiford, Ryan Powdrell and Mike Montgomery. All four of those players had suffered previous injuries in the last two weeks.
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The Word: Training Camp Day 30: Packers begin ‘in-season’ schedule; Favre to play against Titans; Crosby edges Rayner

Though training camp is still in session, the Green Bay Packers began a practice schedule today as if it were the regular season. While the Packers are preparing for their preseason finale against Tennessee on Thursday, their practices this week are in accordance with their regular season practice schedule. The Packers returned to Clarke Hinkle Field this morning after receiving Friday and Saturday off. The team will practice once on Monday and Tuesday before traveling to Nashville on Wednesday prior to Thursday night’s preseason finale against the Titans. In Packers time, today was similar to a Wednesday practice during the regular season. Monday’s practice will be similar to a Thursday practice. McCarthy said some of the veterans are already preparing for the regular season opener against Philadelphia with their position coaches. In the meantime, the coach plans to use this week and the game on Thursday to see as much as possible players who are on the bubble, as well as some of the starters on the first-team offense and defense. McCarthy hinted last week that he might keep Brett Favre out of the final preseason game, but said today that he needs the veteran to continue to develop chemistry with some of the younger players on the offense. Favre will be followed by Aaron Rodgers against the Titans. Rookie quarterback Paul Thompson is expected to play the majority of the third and fourth quarters. The Packers have to reduce their roster to the NFL mandated 53 players by 3 p.m. (CDT) on Saturday, Sept. 1.

Play of the Day

Wide receiver Ruvell Martin made an impressive one-handed catch while leaping over cornerback Will Blackmon to catch a pass from quarterback Aaron Rodgers for a 45-yard gain during an 11-on-11 scrimmage. Martin, who will be battling for playing time with James Jones this season, ran a fly pattern along the right sideline. He jumped up over Blackmon to catch the ball, and cradled it with one arm while falling to the ground to cheers of the nearby ‘railbirds’ perched along Oneida Street.

Stock is up

Chalk one up for Mason Crosby. The rookie edged incumbent Dave Rayner by making all six of his field goal attempts from various distances today in practice while Rayner made 5 of 6 attempts. Rayner’s miss came from 44 yards when his boot sailed wide left. Rayner followed by making a 50-yard attempt, though, Crosby also made his 50-yard attempt that sailed much farther past the portable field goal posts. At this point, it appears that Crosby has the slight edge over Rayner in the competition for the place-kicking duties on the team. Crosby has made a few more of his attempts in practices, and his kickoffs have been a little deeper overall than Rayner’s kickoffs. McCarthy said that the decision on which kicker the team will keep won’t come until after the team’s final preseason game.

Stock is down

Neither Spencer Havner nor Abdul Hodge helped themselves in the battle for the sixth linebacker spot today. Both did not practice due to injuries. Havner has a strained back and Hodge’s knee tendonitis, which has bothered him all off-season, “flared up,” according to McCarthy. It is uncertain if both will return for Monday’s practice, but playing on Thursday against the Titans would be to their advantage. Outside linebacker Tracy White and middle linebacker Desmond Bishop seem to be locks as backups behind starters Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk and Brady Poppinga. The versatile Havner has been playing with the second team defense throughout training camp, and Hodge has been with the third team.

He said it

“I’m just trying to go one day at a time and trying to get out there as soon as possible. I’m a competitive guy. I want to be out there sweating and bleeding and fighting with my teammates. It pains me not to be out there.”
-- running back Vernand Morency on when he thinks he’ll return.

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08-26-2007, 08:40 PM
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Players who have stepped it up in camp

Atari Bigby
It appears that Bigby has replaced Marquand Manuel as the starter at strong safety. It's early, but Bigby looks like he has some similar attributes as LeRoy Butler, especially blitzing the quarterback. If Bigby can play like he has played the last two weeks of the pre-season in the regular season, then the Packers will be elated.

James Jones
WHO did Ted Thompson draft at WR? The was the response from Packer fans when the Packers selected Jones in the third round of the 2007 NFL draft. Thompson looks like he knew what he was doing right now. Jones has had a very strong camp showing great physical ability and nice hands. Jones needs to refine his route running more thoroughly though.

Aaron Rodgers
Rodgers may languish on the bench again this season if Brett Favre continues his consecutive starts streak that is now at 237 games (257, including playoff games). But Rodgers has shown in the pre-season that he is now DEFINITELY the heir apparent to Favre when he hangs up his cleats. Rodgers is mobile and fully understands coach Mike McCarthy's offensive system.

Cullen Jenkins
Like Aaron Kampman the year before, Jenkins is not letting a new, big contract stop his development as a football player. Jenkins has been the Packers' best defensive linemen in camp and Green Bay may now have its best defensive line since the 1996 season.

Will Blackmon
Blackmon had injury issues as a rookie in 2006, but he has been excellent this year in training camp. Head coach Mike McCarthy basically said that Blackmon is his return specialist this year for both kickoffs and punts, and Blackmon will also play a key role in Green Bay's nickel and dime defensive packages.

Brandon Jackson
Jackson has won the role as starting halfback by default due to injuries to players like Vernand Morency, but Jackson has shown enough to get the coaching staff excited. Jackson has shown good cut back moves as a runner and has also shown that he has excellent hands out of the backfield. Jackson has struggled as a blocker though, and has to improve that requirement if he ever wants to be a complete back.

Korey Hall
Hall has not played fullback since high school, but Hall might win the starting fullback job and will be a key special teams player. Hall showed good hands in college as a linebacker as he intercepted 11 passes and that is important as the Packer fullbacks need to be able to catch the ball. The Packers are also very excited about what Hall will bring to special teams as he was a head hunter at college on all four special team units.

Bubba Franks
Franks looks like he could be turning back into the player he was from 2000-2004. Franks has had an excellent camp and is catching almost everything thrown his way. Franks looks more chiseled than he has the last couple of years and his production this year, along with fellow TE Donald Lee, will be an immense help to the Packers passing game.

The kickers (Dave Rayner and/or Mason Crosby)
This has been one of the best battles in recent camp memory. Both kickers have been virtually flawless in field goal attempts, and both have done well on kickoffs. There is a chance that the Packers will keep both of them on the roster, especially if the Packers only carry two quarterbacks.

Nick Barnett
Barnett finally got the long-term contract that he was seeking this off-season, and his production thus far has been outstanding. In fact, the Packers may have the best set of linebackers in the division, with A.J. Hawk and Brady Poppinga on the outside of Barnett. The defense as a whole looks like it will be the straw that stirs the Green Bay drink in 2007 as it has been dominant this pre-season, much like it was in late 2006.
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Down to the wire: Comments on the favorites in the battles for key backup positions and starting spots in the Packers' training camp

Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson and head coach Mike McCarthy will need all of this week and Thursday night’s preseason game at Tennessee to determine which players to keep and which to part with by Sept. 1. As it stands, the Packers have ongoing battles at a handful of positions that will go down to the 3 p.m. (CDT) deadline. How some players perform this week in practice and against the Titans Thursday could make all the difference. The Packers must reduce their roster to the NFL-mandated 53 players by this Saturday. The majority of starting positions on offense and defense have been set, though, there are still a few battles in process. Soon after Thursday's preseason finale, Thompson and McCarthy will have to decide the fate of the following players, who will serve the team as starters, reserves, practice squad invitees, or be placed on waivers:

Safety: Atari Bigby vs. Marquand Manuel

Bigby is expected to get his second straight start at strong safety Thursday against Tennessee, but that doesn’t mean he has the job locked up over incumbent Marquand Manuel. However, it appears that Bigby is on his way toward starting ahead of Manuel when the Packers open the regular season Sept. 9 against Philadelphia. Bigby has provided more big plays in training camp practices than Manuel, and McCarthy likes his explosiveness as a blitzer and tackler. Bigby’s interception of a pass by Brett Favre during a two-minute drill a few days after Green Bay’s preseason loss to Pittsburgh stands out as does the plays he made against Seattle in an exhibition game last Thursday. On the other hand, Manuel has been quiet in the big play department. Bigby sustained a broken hand during the Family Night scrimmage in training camp last year, then injured his hamstring shortly after he was signed off the team’s practice squad in November, but McCarthy has liked his big-play ability all along. How well Bigby can call formations and communicate with other defensive backs may determine if he will start ahead of Manuel. If Bigby struggles to make the calls against Tennessee, Manuel probably will get the call for the season opener as the starter. If not, look for Bigby to start and Manuel to come off the bench.

Cornerback: Frank Walker vs. Patrick Dendy

The Packers are expected to keep five cornerbacks on the roster. Al Harris, Charles Woodson, Will Blackmon and Jarrett Bush are locks to make the team. That means the final spot will be up for grabs between Walker, the team’s only signing in unrestricted free agency this year, and Dendy. Tramon Williams may be a darkhorse here, but the Packers probably will release him, then try to sign him to the practice squad. Walker and Dendy have both played well in training camp, but Dendy seems to be the favorite of coaches. His experience with the Packers last season certainly plays to his advantage, and he has been stepping in with the second team defense ahead of Walker throughout camp. Dendy probably will get the nod over Walker, but a great week of practice and solid game on defense and special teams on Thursday might allow Walker to nose out Dendy for a roster spot.

Kicker: Dave Rayner vs. Mason Crosby

Crosby has a slight advantage over Rayner, the Packers’ kicker last year, but when it is time to name a kicker, Crosby will be the one. The rookie from Colorado has made a few more field goals in practice and has had deeper kickoffs overall in practice than Rayner. Plus, Crosby was selected in the sixth round of the recent NFL Draft by the Packers. In the long run, Crosby will be a tad better for the Packers. He has kicked the past four seasons in Denver, which is no stranger to cold and snowy weather, so adjusting to the conditions in Lambeau Field when the weather gets nasty should be no problem. Still, if Crosby misses a field goal attempt or two on Thursday, and Rayner comes through, Rayner could retain his job.

Linebacker: Spencer Havner vs. Abdul Hodge

Havner and Hodge both missed practice today because of injuries, but both are expected to return to practice either tomorrow or Tuesday. Havner has been playing with the second team defense throughout training camp and has the advantage over Hodge, who impressed many in training camp last year. Hodge missed all of the team’s offseason practices with knee tendonitis. Though he hasn’t missed many practices in training camp, he hasn’t done enough to get past Havner, who can play all three positions. Both Havner and Hodge play on special teams, so their performance on those units may determine their fate in Green Bay. If both Havner and Hodge are not able to play on Thursday, it’s possible that both will be released and the Packers sign a healthy linebacker released by another team.

Tight end: Zac Alcorn vs. Clark Harris

Alcorn made an impressive one-handed catch today in practice, which certainly will help his chance of making the team. Harris, a rookie seventh round pick, has caught the ball better recently in practices, so he has that going for him. The Packers likely will go with three tight ends this season, so either Alcorn or Harris will remain with the team behind Donald Lee and Bubba Franks. Harris’s ability to snap the ball for punts and field goal attempts plays in his favor, but he isn’t going to beat out veteran long snapper Rob Davis at this point. Alcorn’s experience with the Packers plays in his favor. Ultimately, whichever player has the better week of practice and plays better on Thursday probably will win the backup job. For now, let’s give the nod to Alcorn because of his experience in the system. The Packers will then make every attempt to sign Harris to the team's practice squad.

TopHat
08-26-2007, 10:08 PM
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Unable to gain ground. Jackson's injury latest in series of backfield woes

On Sunday, rookie Brandon Jackson went down hard after a collision with another player during a 2-minute drill, and after taking a few more snaps in a non-contact 7-on-7 drill was unable to finish practice. Jackson, according to other players, suffered a blow to the head that most thought wasn't serious. After practice, however, the usually affable Jackson looked to be in a fog as he prepared to walk from his locker to the training room and did not respond to questions about his injury. Coach Mike McCarthy was unaware of the extent of Jackson's injury immediately after practice, so it's unclear whether Jackson suffered a concussion. "Any time a guy lays down like that, that's not a positive sign," McCarthy said. "Hopefully he'll be OK." If he has suffered a concussion, his status for the exhibition finale is in question, especially considering the extra attention head injuries are being given around the NFL after recent criticism aimed at the league. The Packers are generally conservative about allowing players who suffer head injuries back on the field, so there's no telling when he'll be back.

Even if the injury is minor, it's just another example of how tenuous and unsettled the Packers' running game remains. With Jackson out, the only healthy running backs were veteran Noah Herron, rookie free agent Corey White and seventh-round pick DeShawn Wynn, who was making his first appearance in practice after missing 18 days with a strained right thigh muscle. Veteran Vernand Morency still hasn't practiced since hurting his knee the first day of camp and is a question mark for the start of the regular season. Wynn's return is the best news the Packers have had with regard to their backfield in some time, but it's questionable whether he can make up enough ground in the next two weeks to be anything more than a complement come the start of the regular season. Though he looked heavier, the 5-foot-10 Wynn said he weighed in at 227 pounds, 6 pounds less than he weighed before he got injured.

"I felt pretty good," Wynn said. "It definitely felt good to get the runs in and get the football conditioning back in. Coach (Edgar) Bennett gave me a lot just to get prepared for the game Thursday. I think he's going to continue doing it the rest of the week, and I'm looking forward to getting those extra reps in against the defense in a game-time situation." Wynn has better size and power than the 5-10, 212-pound Jackson, and yet moves almost as quickly. One thing he was able to do was stay on top of the offense while he was out, attending meetings daily and taking assignment quizzes before every game. He said he did not make many assignment errors in his first practice back. The Packers need Wynn's help. In three exhibition games, they have averaged just 3.5 yards per carry and have only one rush of at least 20 yards. Jackson and White, the two leading rushers with 40 and 32 attempts, respectively, are both averaging 3.3 yards per carry.

"You have to have some concern," tackle Mark Tauscher said. "But it (working on the run game) is tough for what we do. You're not live tackling, you're not live cutting. "With the system we have in place you want to always look good, but when you can't really cut a guy, you just want to get your reads and get in a good rhythm showing the running back where his reads are. We're not in mid-season form from a cutting standpoint. We have a ways to go." Cut-blocking is a basic element of the zone run scheme and is used primarily on the back side of a run play to knock down pursuing defensive ends and tackles. It keeps those defenders from tying up the guards and center, whose job often is to push forward and block a linebacker. Jacksonville slanted its defensive line so that it could rub out the guard and mess up the running lanes, essentially forcing the back to run outside the tackles every time. The Packers insist that if it were a regular-season game they would have done something to counter that strategy.

"We've got a very minimal part of the running game going on in the games," guard Daryn Colledge said. "We're doing fundamental stuff: outside, inside, left and right. When we have the ability to put in everything - we have our fakes and our counters and our nakeds (bootlegs) and our full run game - we'll have a lot more success in the run game. "Right now people know we're running a very vanilla run game. Linebackers can just fill and fill and fill and it makes it real easy (to stop the run)." Tauscher insisted that if the line did its job, the running back situation wouldn't be as dire as some perceive it to be. He said the experience of having all five starters together for the 2006 season would start to show benefits when the real games begin. "I don't think there's any question we have our hands full and we're expected to be a lot better running the football," Tauscher said. "That will come with playing together and trusting each other a little more. I think you have to hold your judgment (in the exhibition season). I think we're going to be able to run the ball much more effectively than last year." Maybe so, but time is running out to show it.

Deputy Nutz
08-26-2007, 10:29 PM
Its "Mind Bottling" by the way.

GBRulz
08-27-2007, 08:28 AM
Alcorn had the catch of the day, a one-handed stab on a high throw into the left flat. :cow:

GBRulz
08-27-2007, 08:29 AM
I'm going to catch part of the morning practice today, seeing I haven't been to one practice yet this year :oops:

Carolina_Packer
08-27-2007, 11:37 AM
Thank you Mr. Hat, or as my son would say, Sir Topham Hatt (those with under 7 kids or siblings will understand the reference). This is nice stuff for those of us who are far flung.

LaFours
08-27-2007, 02:47 PM
Thank you Mr. Hat, or as my son would say, Sir Topham Hatt (those with under 7 kids or siblings will understand the reference). This is nice stuff for those of us who are far flung.

I only have one kid and I don't get it.

Zool
08-27-2007, 03:50 PM
Thank you Mr. Hat, or as my son would say, Sir Topham Hatt (those with under 7 kids or siblings will understand the reference). This is nice stuff for those of us who are far flung.

I only have one kid and I don't get it.

No idea.

swede
08-27-2007, 04:39 PM
Thomas the Tank Engine is the star of a television show for children.

Sir Topham Hatt is the rather stuffy yet kind Yardmaster that keeps all of the trains running on time.

George Carlin and Ringo Starr have been two of the "conductors" on the American version of the show. They provide live segues in and out of the animation and speak directly to the children in the PBS audience.

You're probably familiar with the obssessed old men that create miniature railways complete with bridges, roads and fully integrated landscapes. Imagine if PBS filmed a series around a series of such sets with plots such as "Thomas helps Tommy the Tug pull Billy the Barge past a shallow spot in the canal. Later, Sir Topham Hatt scolds Thomas for being late but then forgives him when Sir Topham Hatt discovers how helpful Thomas has been." I believe the animated part of the series was originally a British production.

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