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08-27-2007, 05:12 PM
Hodge leaning toward knee surgery

Abdul Hodge will get a second opinion on the patellar tendonitis in his knees Wednesday, and he's leaning toward having corrective surgery that would force the Green Bay Packers to place him on injured reserve for the second consecutive season.

"I definitely want to play, but I want to play to my potential, and I don't want to play in pain," Hodge said Monday afternoon. "When I play in pain, I'm not able to do the things I know I do. I don't look like myself, and I don't like that."

Hodge is scheduled to fly Wednesday to New York, where he'll be examined by Dr. Russell Warren, the New York Giants' team physician. If he opts for surgery, Hodge almost certainly would be placed on I.R., freeing up a roster spot before Saturday's 53-man cutdown.

Hodge sat out practice Monday for the 10th time in training camp.



Powdrell placed on injured reserve

The Packers got to the 75-man roster limit this afternoon by placing fullback Ryan Powdrell on injured reserve.

Powdrell, an undrafted rookie from Southern California, was expected to miss three to six weeks after spraining the medial collateral ligament in his left knee in an exhibition game Aug. 18 against Seattle. He was far from a lock to make the roster before the injury, so there's a good chance this is a temporary move until an injury settlement is reached.

The Packers cut 11 players Friday and had until Tuesday to get down to 75. The 53-man cutdown is Saturday.





Practice wrap-up

Coach Mike McCarthy said his starting secondary won't change this week, confirming that Atari Bigby will make his second consecutive start at strong safety.

The secondary is one of several positions that will be evaluated heavily this week, however, so Marquand Manuel could replace Bigby as early as the second series.

"Some guys may play one series; some starters may play three series," McCarthy said. "It's really about position."

Manuel got equal, if not more work alongside starting free safety Nick Collins in practice. Manuel, who started all 16 games a year ago, hasn't spoken with his reporters since his demotion last week.

Elsewhere ...

-- Junius Coston spent his second straight day at right guard with the first unit in place of Jason Spitz (calf). With Brandon Jackson sitting out, fellow rookie DeShawn Wynn and Noah Herron opened periods at running back.

-- As speculated earlier, practice was in shells, not pads, this morning because of low numbers. "We've got a number of guys that are out that we're just being really cautious with," McCarthy said.

-- McCarthy declined to specify how many spots on the 53-man roster remain undecided, saying only that Thursday's game will be important for evaluating many players.

-- T Orrin Thompson (knee) participated in contact drills, which he's sat out often since suffering a medial collateral ligament injury against Seattle on Aug. 18.

-- McCarthy said he called a running play instead of a pass in one situation last week against Jacksonville to set up a field-goal attempt, and he said he would consider doing the same this week. The play McCarthy referred to likely was a third-and-1 at the Jaguars' 20 midway through the fourth quarter. Noah Herron ran for no gain. Then, Mason Crosby converted a 38-yard field goal.

-- QB Paul Thompson threw three interceptions. Charlie Peprah got the first and Patrick Dendy the next two, one of them off a tip by Frank Walker. All of them, however, came during opponent work.

-- Walker, who it appears is fighting Dendy for the fifth and final cornerback spot, spent time alongside starters Charles Woodson and Al Harris in nickel situations. Jarrett Bush remains the No. 3 cornerback.

-- In his second day subbing in at tight end, international practice squad player Carl-Johan Bjork had a touchdown during opponent work.

-- Rookie LB Desmond Bishop intercepted Aaron Rodgers during opponent work.

-- And in the only competitive 11-on-11 period, Brett Favre was 3-for-4 with a 7-yard touchdown strike to Greg Jennings.




McCarthy: Jackson questionable with concussion

Rookie running back Brandon Jackson has a mild concussion and is questionable for Thursday's preseason finale at Tennessee. Jackson suffered the injury in practice on Sunday. It is his first concussion, coach Mike McCarthy said, but the team plans to address it cautiously.

"It's something that we're going to be very cautious with," McCarthy said. "We'll see how he's doing later today and then in the morning."

McCarthy said Noah Herron, the only non-rookie running back expected to play, would start Thursday if Jackson cannot. DeShawn Wynn also is expected to get a lot of carries, which coaches hope will free up Corey White to play some snaps at fullback.

In other injury news, tight end Donald Lee did not finish practice today. He was “banged in (Thursday's) game,” McCarthy said, and his knee may be bothering him.

Linebacker Abdul Hodge, who sat out the second straight day with patellar tendinitis in his knees, could be placed on injured reserve, McCarthy said. He is scheduled to get a second opinion this week.




Rookie Crosby again holds slight advantage over Rayner; Morency seen running on sidelines

Rookie Mason Crosby once again held a slight advantage over incumbent Dave Rayner during a field-goal drill. Crosby made both of his extra-point-attempts and five of six field goals.

His successful kicks came 37, 42, 47, 47 and 52 yards. His only miss was wide right from 52 yards.

Rayner made both of his extra-point-attempts and four of six field goals. His successful kicks came from 37, 42, 47 and 52 yards. He missed wide left from 47 and 52 yards.

Jon Ryan was the holder for all of the kicks and longsnapper Rob Davis snapped on all of the attempts.

*** Injured running back Vernand Morency was running along the sidelines in sweats while the team practiced today. Morency injured his knee in the first practice of training camp almost a month ago.

*** Receivers James Jones and Ruvell Martin each caught long passes along the sidelines during a team drill. Safety Charlie Peprah picked off a Paul Thompson pass intended for Calvin Russell. Later, Peprah was victimized by a Brett Favre-to-Greg Jennings touchdown pass.

*** The large contingent of fans that watched the early part of practice was ushered out of the building about 45 minutes into the workout.




Hodge at practice; Driver, Bodiford, Powdrell absent today

Linebacker Abdul Hodge arrived late to today's practice and is on the field. Hodge has been battling tendinitis in both his knees throughout training camp.

Injured players wide receiver Donald Driver, return specialist Shaun Bodiford and fullback Ryan Powdrell are absent again.

In addition, most of the same players who sat out Sunday's workout appear to be not practicing again. Players are working out in shorts, although the practice initially had been scheduled as a pads workout.




RB Jackson not practicing today

Rookie running back Brandon Jackson is not on the field for this morning's practice. Jackson suffered an upper body injury during Sunday's practice on an inadvertent hit from linebacker Brady Poppinga and did not participate in contact drills after that.

His status for Thursday's preseason finale at Tennessee is uncertain, but Coach Mike McCarthy has indicated that as a precaution, he will hold out a number of starters nursing injuries.






Rain moves Packers practice indoors

Practice is under way at the Don Hutson Center. It was raining steadily until about 10:40 a.m. and Clarke Hinkle Field appears soaked.

The team is letting in some fans for the early portions of practice, but they probably will not be allowed to stay for the entire 2 ½ hour session.

Today is the second-to-last practice open to the public.

TPF
08-27-2007, 05:18 PM
There's a strategic aspect in there for Hodge.

Joemailman
08-27-2007, 05:23 PM
-- McCarthy said he called a running play instead of a pass in one situation last week against Jacksonville to set up a field-goal attempt, and he said he would consider doing the same this week. The play McCarthy referred to likely was a third-and-1 at the Jaguars' 20 midway through the fourth quarter. Noah Herron ran for no gain. Then, Mason Crosby converted a 38-yard field goal.



Is McCarthy saying he was sure that Noah Herron would be unable to gain 1 yard? :lol:

4and12to12and4
08-27-2007, 05:23 PM
This knee injury is a bummer for Hodge. Last preseason, #55 Jerseys were selling like hotcakes, and it's looking dimmer that he will ever be an impact player. I hope he beats this, and ends up in the shuffle, but at least this is a position of strength for us. I just hope Woodson and Harris don't go down this year, that would be bad.

Spaulding
08-27-2007, 06:59 PM
This knee injury is a bummer for Hodge. Last preseason, #55 Jerseys were selling like hotcakes, and it's looking dimmer that he will ever be an impact player. I hope he beats this, and ends up in the shuffle, but at least this is a position of strength for us. I just hope Woodson and Harris don't go down this year, that would be bad.

I actually find it encouraging that he's still bothered with tendinitis in his knees as that at least gives an excuse for his shitty play. Also, given Bishop stepping up at mike he'd have had the possibility of getting cut anyways. This may be a blessing in disguise as it might give the Packers a chance to stash him on IR again.

Bretsky
08-27-2007, 08:29 PM
-- McCarthy said he called a running play instead of a pass in one situation last week against Jacksonville to set up a field-goal attempt, and he said he would consider doing the same this week. The play McCarthy referred to likely was a third-and-1 at the Jaguars' 20 midway through the fourth quarter. Noah Herron ran for no gain. Then, Mason Crosby converted a 38-yard field goal.



Is McCarthy saying he was sure that Noah Herron would be unable to gain 1 yard? :lol:


Behind our offensive line how can one not think the turtle like speedy Herron would not get a yard ?

Could this be considered an example of point fixing for the bets at Vegas ?

Deputy Nutz
08-27-2007, 08:58 PM
His knees are shit right now and the best thing for him and the packers would to stick him on IR regardless if surgery is needed. Consider it a lost year for the former Hawkeye.

Bretsky
08-27-2007, 09:24 PM
Probably a smart move by a guy that was going to get cut; take the surgery, have GB pay for it, rehab and maybe he makes it next year. If he does this right he used our facilities all season and stays in the good graces of the coaches.

Worst case by him wanting to go this route is GB gives him some cash for an injury settlement and cuts him.

On other hand, it makes sense for GB to let him get his health right and give him a clean slate next year...hopefully at full strength

Lurker64
08-27-2007, 09:25 PM
As a current UI student, I have to say I'd be sad to see Abdul get cut, so I hope he elects to take the surgery and come back strong next year.

CaliforniaCheez
08-27-2007, 09:46 PM
His knees are shit right now and the best thing for him and the packers would to stick him on IR regardless if surgery is needed. Consider it a lost year for the former Hawkeye.

The knee won't get better playing football.

Partial
08-27-2007, 09:58 PM
Probably a smart move by a guy that was going to get cut; take the surgery, have GB pay for it, rehab and maybe he makes it next year. If he does this right he used our facilities all season and stays in the good graces of the coaches.

Worst case by him wanting to go this route is GB gives him some cash for an injury settlement and cuts him.

On other hand, it makes sense for GB to let him get his health right and give him a clean slate next year...hopefully at full strength

He would be very smart to get the surgery from the Pack (I'm assuming they'll offer this since they like his potential) and keep collecting his paychecks while rehabing harder than ever and trying to improve his lateral and straight line speed.

Partial
08-27-2007, 11:38 PM
Packers deciding injured player's future
BOB MCGINN


Backup middle linebacker Abdul Hodge's two-year struggle with patellar tendinitis in both knees has reached the stage where his second season with the Green Bay Packers appears over.

Hodge said Tuesday that he probably would need surgery, a move that would land him on season-ending injured reserve.

"We're talking about seven different options," Hodge said. "Any time you can't play the way you want to play and you're not 100%, it's frustrating."

Hodge said he would fly to New York on Wednesday for a second opinion from Russell Warren, the Giants' team physician since 1984.

Last week, Hodge said the tendinitis seemed to be abating compared to the start of training camp. But after playing Hodge sparingly against Jacksonville, the Packers withheld him from practice Sunday and Monday while deciding his future.

"It's a very sharp pain," Hodge said. "It's very painful. Some days it's better than others. For the most part, it affects my change of direction, it affects my explosiveness and it takes away from my game."

The Packers drafted Hodge in the third round from Iowa in April 2006, about three months after Hodge said the tendinitis first began to set in. After a lukewarm rookie season, Hodge wasn't able to participate in any on-field drills from March to June.

Coach Mike McCarthy attempted to ease Hodge back into practice when camp opened in July, giving him the morning practice off during twice-daily sessions.

"From playing on it so long it's probably going to take some procedures to take care of it," said Hodge, adding that he meant surgery.

If Hodge doesn't go on injured reserve, he probably would be waived Saturday in favor of rookie Desmond Bishop, who has outplayed him this summer. By going on injured reserve and having surgery, Hodge might have a chance to resurrect his career in 2008.

Major concern: Cornerback Will Blackmon might not be available to handle his dual return role in the opener because of the left thumb that he damaged making a tackle in the second half Thursday night.

Blackmon practiced Monday with a small protective cast but it still appeared to be bothering him. He tried to minimize the injury and called it a sprain, but another source said it was a fracture.

Mike Stock, the special teams coach, said he was "absolutely" worried about Blackmon's availability against Philadelphia.

"It's tough to catch a ball with a cast on your thumb," Stock said.

Cornerback Tramon Williams will return punts Thursday night in Tennessee. Stock said he wouldn't be fearful of using Williams against the Eagles if he makes the team, but Charles Woodson probably would get the nod.

"Charles is kind of a security blanket, if you will," Stock said.

On kickoffs, Stock said he'd go with David Clowney, Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn against the Titans.

"If it was that bad, I wouldn't be out there risking myself and maybe getting hurt worse," Blackmon said.

Roster move: The Packers reached the mandatory 75-man limit by placing rookie fullback Ryan Powdrell on injured reserve.

On Aug. 20, Powdrell said he would be out three to six weeks with a sprained medial collateral knee ligament.

Offensive rotations: Coach Mike McCarthy said Herron would start at running back for injured Brandon Jackson, backed by Wynn and Corey White.

Vernand Morency, who has been sidelined since July 28 with a patellar strain, has hopes of playing against the Eagles. He was trying to simulate the actions of a running back Monday in practice.

"We work on game-situation-type deals," he said. "Then we can see what the knee can allow me to do."

At wide receiver, it appears that James Jones will start at flanker for injured Donald Driver. When the Packers use three wide receivers, Greg Jennings will replace Driver in the slot and Ruvell Martin will work at split end.

In the hunt: Guard-tackle Adam Stenavich, the former Marshfield all-stater who was Michigan's left tackle from 2003-'05, still has an outside chance of making the team. Two solid backups, tackle Tony Moll and guard Tony Palmer, have missed about two weeks with injuries.

"He's coming around," offensive coordinator Joe Philbin said. "I like him. He understands the game well. Pretty good technician. He did play a little better the other night (against Jacksonville)."

Stenavich has played both guard and tackle but Philbin said he was clearly better at guard.

Rough moment: Rookie guard Allen Barbre isn't close to being a starter at this time, according to Philbin. Philbin admitted that he was surprised if not shocked in the third quarter when Jaguars defensive tackle Derek Landri, a fifth-round pick, blew past Barbre's left shoulder and sacked Aaron Rodgers in 2.97 seconds. "It was disappointing," Philbin said. "He got beat pretty quick off the get-go. That was about as clean a sack as you're going to see on tape."
Rookie reaction: Co-defensive line coach Robert Nunn was asked if Justin Harrell had performed in camp as if he were the sixth-best defensive tackle.

"I'm sure at times he's probably looked that way," Nunn said. "But I'm not concerned where Justin is right now. He's going to be a factor this year. How early? We'll have to see how it all plays out."

Nunn said he gave Harrell more practice turns than any other tackle so he'd get in shape, lose weight and get his timing back. Nunn relented this week, hoping Harrell has fresher legs for the Titans.

"He's going to be in there in the first quarter," Nunn said. "I really believe it's too early to judge him.

"The most impressive thing about Justin is when you see him late in the game when he'd dog-tired, he's trying to work on the exact things you asked him to work on. He's very, very coachable.

"Being out a year, being 20 to 30 pounds heavier than he ever played before, that's a factor. And we've gassed him pretty hard."

Harlan Huckleby
08-28-2007, 11:17 AM
ahh heck, get the surgery - its free!

SkinBasket
08-28-2007, 11:21 AM
-- McCarthy said he called a running play instead of a pass in one situation last week against Jacksonville to set up a field-goal attempt, and he said he would consider doing the same this week. The play McCarthy referred to likely was a third-and-1 at the Jaguars' 20 midway through the fourth quarter. Noah Herron ran for no gain. Then, Mason Crosby converted a 38-yard field goal.



Is McCarthy saying he was sure that Noah Herron would be unable to gain 1 yard? :lol:

You know, that's how I read it.