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Partial
08-29-2007, 01:27 PM
edit: Whoops, I left off tight end

Last year, the Eagles were a pretty darn good team. Offensively, few could rival them.

At Quarterback, they have one of the best in the business in Donovan McNabb. That is all that needs to be said about him beyond that I expect him to be about 80% week 1 after tearing an ACL less than 10 months ago. He has also had season ending injuries 3 of the last 5 years. Behind him is 2nd round pick Kevin Kolb out of Houston. I like this kid for I think he has a good enough arm and good pocket presence. It will take time to go from a small program like Houstin to a full-speed NFL game. This pick created some tension in the locker room as Donovan McNabb did not like the writing on the wall and seeing his err apparent picked up early in the draft instead of a player who can help him win now. Seems kind of like 2005 in Packer land.

The passing attack this season may start off a little slower due to two factors in my opinion:
1. Kevin Curtis is not a #1 receiver and not nearly as complete/polished of a deep threat as Dante Stallworth (now with New England) is.
2. Donovan McNabb is in the process of recovering from an ACL tear that he suffered towards the end of November. That means week 1 is less than 10 months since he had the surgery. Also, its his third season ending injury in 5 years. Will he be totally recovered and the super-duper-star we are accustomed to playing?

Their receivers are just good enough to win with. Reggie Brown is a good player but he is not a true #1 receiver and wouldn't be in that position for many teams in the league. That said, he has improved tremendously from his rookie campagne two years ago to today, so we'll see how he turns out. I am skeptical, though. As their 1B receiver, they have Kevin Curtis from the Rams. He was the Rams third receiver and home run threat last year because he has incredible speed. I don't think he'll be nearly as effective in this role in Philly because they even though they play on artificial turf at the Vet, they do not play on a fast-track like turf that St. Louis uses in the TWA dome (I believe that is what it is called). Also, without having two future hall-of-famers drawing defensives attention he won't see as many single teams and will be playing against better corners on the line. Can he beat a jam? Time will tell, but I don't like him much as a player and don't think he will fill this role very well. For the third wideout spot, Hank Baskett and Jason Avant are battling it out. I think in time both of these guys will be solid #2s, so this is a good situation for the Eagles to have. Overall, their receiving corps is good enough to compliment a strong running game but they don't have a big-play guy who can create and require a constant double or triple team to open up the running game.

At tight end, the Eagles are solid with starter LJ Smith. He is the type of receiver who can stretch the field and could cause havoc for the Packers safeties and linebackers. He has good speed and is powerful enough to break tackles and block decently. Matt Schobel is a solid back-up. They are in the top 5-6 teams at this position in the league.

The offensive line is pretty solid but unspectacular. They don't have any pro-bowlers or stars but work well as a unit. Andy Reid is a firm believer in keeping both of his trenches solid and consistently does a good job of this. Runyan is a good player but I think he is overrated. He is going to have a tough time with the combination of speed and power of Kampman.

The running game is one of the most exciting in the league with Brian Westbrook in the backfield. Behind him it is a pretty ugly picture not much different from the Packers running backs. Westbrook has never played a full season in the NFL due to his size in my opinion. He is just too small to take 20 carries a game. When he has the ball, he is electric though. Like Reggie Bush or Marshall Faulk, he is quick as a cat and better at avoiding tackles than breaking them using power. Like those other runners, he is also a great receiving threat out of the backfield. As far as runners go, he is probably the best receiver out of the backfield in the league. He is a scary player that the Packers should treat like they treated Michael Vick two years ago. Shadow him every single play and keep a fast linebacker like Nick Barnett in his face and shoving him around at the line of scrimmage whenever they bring him out of the backfield into the slot. Backing up Westbrook is Tony Hunt, a third round choice out of Penn St. Many draft gurus at Packerrats wanted TT to draft Hunt because he has excellent vision and balance and fits the bill of the perfect zone runner. A lot of scouts also labeled him as the surprise of the draft and expected him to be a big-time steal when all was said and done.

On the line, they have an aging Javon Kearse on one side who is not very good against the run and not half the player he once was. He can still beat a tackle and chase down a quarterback for a big loss though if they're not careful. On the other side, to my surprise, they are starting a guy named Trent Cole. I don't really know anything about him to be very honest. Perhaps Harv or someone can shed some light on this. Finally, as a third defensive end, they have Darren Howard, a guy I advocated for TT to bring in to Green Bay. He is not starting as is being paid the big bucks so it will be interesting to see how that plays out for final cut down. He is getting paid far too much to be a situational player and substitute. It will be interesting to see when Victor Abiamiri gets to play, because he is currently listed 5th on the depth chart but is their best run defender by far. He is a guy that I wanted the Packers to draft, and I could see him starting over Kearse as early as next year. He's a good player off the bench.

Up the middle, the Eagles traded Darwin Walker, there best interior defender last year. This guy was very solid and is being replaced by last years first round pick Brodrick Bunkley. Last year, Bunkley was an underachiever and really ticked off the coaching staff and got in the dog house. He was strong as an ox at the combine like our very own Justin Harrell, but he didn't play with leverage and did not see the field much as a rookie. This year, the coaches are pretty happy with how he has improved his game and is ready to take the next step. To his left, Mike Patterson is starting. Patterson was a 2nd round pick a few years back, and has always been a pretty decent player. With that said, this is a line that we should average 4 yards/carry against at the end of the day when all is said and done.

As for the linebacking corps, Philadelphia let go their lone pro-bowler last year Jeramiah Trotter. While I agree it was the right move because he did not deserve to make the pro-bowl roster by any stretch of the imagination, they do not have a very good linebacking corps. This off-season they acquired Takeo Spikes from Buffalo, an often injured linebacker who is a hard hitter and a solid player at all three positions. Before he tore his achielles two years ago, he was a very effective player and a pro bowler. Philadelpia is going to be using him as their weak-side linebacker. Personally, I think this is a mistake and they should be using him in the middle. He will be a solid player that is unspectacular due to losing some speed from age and injury. In the middle, they are starting Omar Gaither who played outside last year. His emergence in camp and his productivity on the inside made the decision to release Trotter that much easier. Gaither has good range but is not as instinctive or as strong of a tackler as Trotter. He is a smaller linebacker at 235. Gaither will be a 3 down player for the Eagles this year, something that Trotter was never very effective as. On the strong side, the Eagles are essentially pulling a green bay last year and starting a converted defensive end who has never played the position. Chris Gocong is a converted end who was injured last year and missed the entire season. Now, in his sophomore season he was essentially handed the starting job and told not to screw it up. In preseason and camp, he hasn't been very impressive. The coaches insist they like his potential and think he'll be a solid player. So far he has shown to ability to be a good blitzer and pass rusher and they have minimized his coverage assignments. The only two defensive starters that are playing in the fourth preseason games are Gocong and Gaither, so that tells you something. The Eagles want to get them as ready as can be and get them as many snaps as they can. To me, this seems like a position we should exploit in week 1 like the Bears did to us last year.

At Safety, the Eagles have the aging but steady Brian Dawkins. He is a true professional, a headhunter, and a very good player. He is completely solid and is always one of the better safeties in the league. Starting opposite him at strong safety, right now is Sean Considine. As I am sure you guys remember, last year he replaced Michael Lewis as the starter because they did not like Lewis' lack of range and poor play in coverage. Considine is the exact opposite player of Lewis in my opinion. He is small, a soft hitter who is afraid to tackle hard, he misses a lot of tackles, and right now has looked anything up solid. Right now, the position is unsettled and there is a very strong chance that back-up Quintin Mikell will take his spot before the end of the season.

Philly has two good cornerbacks. Lito Shepard and Sheldon Brown are both good players with some pro-bowl experience between them. They're also still young and good at man-to-man coverage and solid blitzers. They're not quite as good as Al Harris and Chuck Woodson, but they're the next step down. They're very, very good and Favre had better watch where he is throwing the ball when Philly blitzes rather than give up a big play. As for their nickelback, they're in a very good position because William James (formerly Will Peterson of the New York Giants) looks very good and could start for a lot of teams in the league. Last year he returned to the league after retiring for over a year. He is still young, and one of the better nickelbacks in the league.

As for specialists, David Akers is one of the best in the business at kicking clutch field goals. Their punter Dirk Johnson is solid and in a contract year. I think he'll continue to be a good player as well.

Last year, they ranked as such:
Overall Offense - 2nd (381.4)
Rushing Offense - 11th (124.0)
Passing Offense - 3rd (257.4)

Overall Defense - 15th (328.1)
Rushing Defense - 26th (136.4)
Passing Defense - 9th (191.7)

Statistically they were pretty solid.


So there you have it. thats what I think of the Eagles. What do you guys think? What positions can we exploit and create mismatches? How do we match up? Let me know what you think!

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 01:43 PM
WOWZERRR P. :)

OK. . . now please tell us about the gumbo on the NY Giants.

Partial
08-29-2007, 01:48 PM
WOWZERRR P. :)

OK. . . now please tell us about the gumbo on NY Giants.

In due time. I will also write how we match up as we get closer to the game.

BallHawk
08-29-2007, 01:50 PM
Maybe we can put this on the front page. We still have Merlin's offseason rant about whether to get Randy Moss......from February.

Partial
08-29-2007, 01:55 PM
Maybe we can put this on the front page. We still have Merlin's offseason rant about whether to get Randy Moss......from February.

Yeah, they can if they want to. Someone should probably edit it because I keep finding typos or sections that don't flow at all since I didn't initially type anything up about the quarterbacks or the receivers.

I had to do some homework on some of their players because I haven't heard of a few of them. Just goes to show that even as someone who eats, drinks, and sleeps football it is impossible to know every team inside and out.

Freak Out
08-29-2007, 02:06 PM
McNabb looked great throwing the ball and moving in the pocket but I have not seen him run yet. Is Kearse healthy?

Partial
08-29-2007, 02:07 PM
McNabb looked great throwing the ball and moving in the pocket but I have not seen him run yet. Is Kearse healthy?

Kearse is healthy, yes. But he has slowed a lot over the years and still isn't very big. He's not the freak of his first few years with the Titans, that is for sure.

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 02:11 PM
The Eagles should as usual be very good on 'D' and be very well coached.

They have a solid OL that ranked third in the run and pass in the NFL last season.

They are very tough in the backfield ( Westwood, Buckhalter and Tony Hunt), and although McNabb will not be all the way back fr. injury, maybe all of 2007 he will put up seriously good numbers.

Kevin Curtis was a great addition after losing Stallworth and as a receiver group the Eagles won't fall behind in 2007.After McNabb the Eagles are positioned v. well at QB.

The Eagles play very well against the Packers and will provide a tough test for our opener.

Last season they kicked butt in the second half Vs. us, so again we'll have an excellent opportunity to see our growth on 'D'.

Partial
08-29-2007, 02:16 PM
Woody, I completely disagree about there defense. We will rush for over 100 yards that game. Especially if Morency is back and healthy.

They have 4 new starters with a possibility of 5 new starters. Of those new starters, only 1 has started a game before. Two of them have never played an NFL snap.

While we could not run up the gut against the Jaguars last week, I suspect we will have a good amount of third and short (1,2,3 yards) because they are quite weak up the middle.

Likewise, with two new linebackers I think our tight ends could be a big factor in the game early. If I were doing the game planning, I would keep two tight ends in for a good amount of the snaps and establish a running game. Then I would run playaction after playaction after playaction.

All things considered, I think we're bound to have pretty good offensive success against them.

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 02:16 PM
Partial.

Congratulations on going over 7K posts. Cool. 8-)

I was looking at the Eagle site this AM and I'll go back there for more perspective.

Cheesehead Craig
08-29-2007, 02:29 PM
I think if the Eagles run too much zone coverage, Favre will eat them up. I think they will do a lot of MTM coverage. I also agree that we will do a decent job running the ball as the Eagle D is not what it used to be and I think we can run outside on them.

Partial
08-29-2007, 02:35 PM
I think if the Eagles run too much zone coverage, Favre will eat them up. I think they will do a lot of MTM coverage. I also agree that we will do a decent job running the ball as the Eagle D is not what it used to be and I think we can run outside on them.

Their defensive line certainly does not have the type of run stoppers on the edge that we have, or up the middle for that matter. I for one am very surprised they are not playing Spikes in the middle because we know he can read and react and stop the run. Instead, they're putting a guy who is fairly raw in the middle. In my opinion we'll have more success up the middle than to the edges. Unless something big changes, it will not be a daunting task for us to reach 100 yards.

The more that I look at this game from a non-bias perspective, I think we will win. We will be able to run the ball and they will not. Our defense is good enough to get good pressure against their line and we will be able to stop the pass.

The big thing in this game is we will have to establish the run early and often. As long as we can do that, we can use playaction and they won't be sending the farm play after play on the blitz.

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 02:48 PM
Woody, I completely disagree about there defense. We will rush for over 100 yards that game. Especially if Morency is back and healthy.

They have 4 new starters with a possibility of 5 new starters. Of those new starters, only 1 has started a game before. Two of them have never played an NFL snap.

Key Transactions - Eagles Off Season:

» 8/27/2007 DE Jerome McDougle, RB Ryan Moats and G Stefan Rodgers - Placed on injured reserve

» 8/27/2007 Kelly Holcomb QB Kelly Holcomb - Traded to the Minnesota Vikings for an undisclosed draft pick in 2009

» 8/21/2007 Jeremiah Trotter LB Jeremiah Trotter - Released

» 7/25/2007 Kevin Kolb QB Kevin Kolb - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 7/22/2007 Victor Abiamiri DE Victor Abiamiri - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 7/22/2007 Nate Ilaoa RB Nate Ilaoa - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 7/9/2007 Mauricio Lopez DT Mauricio Lopez - Signed to a contract

» 6/19/2007 Mike Bartrum TE Mike Bartrum - Announced his retirement

» 5/25/2007 C.J. Gaddis S C.J. Gaddis - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 5/24/2007 Tony Hunt RB Tony Hunt - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 5/24/2007 Stewart Bradley LB Stewart Bradley - Agreed to terms on a four-year contract

» 5/11/2007 Sam Rayburn DT Sam Rayburn - Released

» 5/3/2007 Ian Scott DT Ian Scott - Signed to a one-year contract

» 4/28/2007 In the 2007 NFL Draft, the Eagles selected quarterback Kevin Kolb and defensive end Victor Abiamiri in the second round ...in the third round, the Eagles selected linebacker Stewart Bradley and running back Tony Hunt

» 4/28/2007 The Philadelphia Eagles traded a first-round pick (No. 26 overall) to the Dallas Cowboys for a second-round pick (No. 36 overall), a third-round pick (No. 87 overall) and a fifth-round pick (No. 159 overall)

» 3/26/2007 Kelly Holcomb, Takeo Spikes Kelly Holcomb, Takeo Spikes - Acquired in a trade with the Buffalo Bills in exchange for DT Darwin Walker and a conditional draft pick in 2008

» 2/25/2007 A.J. Feeley QB A.J. Feeley - Agrees to terms on a three-year contract extension through 2010

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 03:05 PM
Eagles Team Stats 2006.

Rushing YDS
B. Westbrook 1217
C. Buckhalter 345
D. McNabb 212
J. Garcia 87

Receiving REC
B. Westbrook 77
L. Smith 50
R. Brown 46
D. Stallworth 38

Defense TKL
J. Trotter 161
B. Dawkins 155
S. Considine 107
D. Jones 93

Defense SCK
T. Cole 8
J. Thomas 6
D. Howard 5
J. Kearse 3.5

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 03:14 PM
Scoreboard more

Heinz Field - Wk 3 Pre-Season

. . . . . . . . . . . . . Qtr...1.. ..2.. 3.. 4.... T
Philadelphia Eagles ......3.... 0.. 3...7... 13
Pittsburgh Steelers... 0...13... 7..7... 27

The Leaper
08-29-2007, 03:21 PM
McNabb is always scary. He is a very good QB who has the ability to break containment and make plays happen. The DL needs to work on containment.

I see this matchup as being pretty much a coin toss. The Eagles offense is strong...the Packers defense is strong. The decider will probably be the other side of the equation...Packer offense vs Eagle defense. The longer our offense can possess the ball, the greater chance our defense can make things tough on the Philly offense. A ball control offense that doesn't turn it over will go a long way to putting up a W week one.

The Leaper
08-29-2007, 03:24 PM
The big thing in this game is we will have to establish the run early and often. As long as we can do that, we can use playaction and they won't be sending the farm play after play on the blitz.

I'm not so sure...it will depend on what game plan Philly chooses.

I think we may need to pass the Eagles out of their blitzes. Our running game isn't strong enough to overpower a defense that will focus on stopping it. If Philly comes out with 8 guys in the box, Favre needs to beat them with the pass to keep those Philly defenders from running downhill against our RBs. With Driver's injury, you have to think Philly is going to be looking at eliminating our run game.

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 03:25 PM
McNabb is always scary. He is a very good QB who has the ability to break containment and make plays happen. The DL needs to work on containment.

I see this matchup as being pretty much a coin toss. The Eagles offense is strong...the Packers defense is strong. The decider will probably be the other side of the equation...Packer offense vs Eagle defense. The longer our offense can possess the ball, the greater chance our defense can make things tough on the Philly offense. A ball control offense that doesn't turn it over will go a long way to putting up a W week one.

We need to be patient on 'O' and (play tough on 'D') and get the TO edge to win this game.

Partial
08-29-2007, 03:31 PM
McNabb is always scary. He is a very good QB who has the ability to break containment and make plays happen. The DL needs to work on containment.

I see this matchup as being pretty much a coin toss. The Eagles offense is strong...the Packers defense is strong. The decider will probably be the other side of the equation...Packer offense vs Eagle defense. The longer our offense can possess the ball, the greater chance our defense can make things tough on the Philly offense. A ball control offense that doesn't turn it over will go a long way to putting up a W week one.

McNabb is quite the weapon. He was probably the front runner for the MVP award after 8 weeks of the season last year. He is just that good. He isn't as mobile as he used to be, though. I think they'll be fine in containment and don't need to shadow him or anything like that because they have so much speed at the linebacker position. Both Jenkins and Kampman can anchor and hold the point if McNabb runs outside the linebackers shouldn't have any problem making a play within a couple of yards.

The key to the game for the Packers will be controlling the line of scrimmage. If they can stop the run and force McNabb to beat them on 3rd and long, the Packers will be successful. If the Packers can run the ball and give Brett 3rd and short to work with, they'll be very successful.

Based on what i've seen out of the defense, I think they will be able to contain the running game. In fact I could see the Eagles using a lot more screens and short passes to Westbrook to generate a "running game".

Based on what i've seen out of our offense, I think we'll be able to have some success running the ball. Even if they are only getting 2.5-3 yards/carry, the Packers need to commit to it and use it to keep the ball out of the Eagles hands. It will get more and more succesful as the game goes on as well.

I think they're going to start the season with a win for the first time in a while.

woodbuck27
08-29-2007, 04:02 PM
Eagles Pre-Season to date (2 games):

Offense:

PTS
14.3
(27th)

YDS
308.7
(16th)

PASS YDS
237.3
(8th)

RUSH YDS
71.3
(28th

Eagles Defense:

PTS
22.0
(23rd)

YDS
344.7
(24th)

PASS YDS
242.7
(27th)

RUSH YDS
102.0
(14th )

Packers Pre-Season to date (3 games):

Offense;

PTS
24.7
(4th)

YDS
281.0
(27th)

PASS YDS
185.3
(23rd)

RUSH YDS
95.7
(19th)

Packers Defense:

PTS
14.3
(4th)

YDS
286.7
(12th)

PASS YDS
165.7
(6th)

RUSH YDS
121.0
(25th)

Him8123
08-29-2007, 04:10 PM
I`ve read some eagle message boards, 95 % of the fans are predicting the eagles to only win 8 maybe 9 games.

RashanGary
08-29-2007, 05:55 PM
I think we win this game even if we don't play our best football. I just don't think the Eagles are as good of a team as the Packers.

That said, I'm very anxious to see the ST's and the running game. I think those are going to be two pleasant suprises this year.

1. The K and P are going to be better than last year
2. We have more ST depth and we played well with the #1 ST's in the preseason
3. The Olineman are stronger and more prepared in the zone scheme which will allow us to be better in the run game

The defense is good, we pretty much know that. I'm looking forward to seeing the offense and ST's take the next step.

RashanGary
08-29-2007, 06:06 PM
I think the game starts out like a normal close game. 3 pts here, 7 pts there. Nobody really walking away in the 1st half. Then the second half will roll around and our defense will still be rested up front and strong. They will continue to force 3 and outs, giving the ball back to our offense. Their defense will start to wear down as their depth up front is suspect. Eventually holes will start to open up in the running game and late in the 3rd, early in the 4th the Packers will start to dominate all phases of the game. They will have to blitz to get pressure and our Oline/RB's will pick up the blitz, allowing FAvre to connect deep to Jennings for a big, late TD. We'll win convincingly 24-10.

Favre will throw for 235 yds, 61% completion percentage and 2 TD's
Jackson will have 75 yards on 18 carries
Morency will have 50 yds on 11 carries
Jennings will have 7 catches for 90 yds and 1 TD
Jones will have 5 catches for 50 yds
The defense will look dominate, setting up the offnese for some easy points.


Go Pack :)

RashanGary
08-29-2007, 06:09 PM
Nice thread by the way Partial. Looking at the Eagles roster sure makes you realize that playoff teams aren't superstars at every position. Sometimes its the strength of the whole, not the strength of one hole that makes the team.

Bretsky
08-29-2007, 06:16 PM
I think we win this game even if we don't play our best football. I just don't think the Eagles are as good of a team as the Packers.

That said, I'm very anxious to see the ST's and the running game. I think those are going to be two pleasant suprises this year.

1. The K and P are going to be better than last year
2. We have more ST depth and we played well with the #1 ST's in the preseason
3. The Olineman are stronger and more prepared in the zone scheme which will allow us to be better in the run game

The defense is good, we pretty much know that. I'm looking forward to seeing the offense and ST's take the next step.

You are sounding like the an infinite cheerleading soapbox lately; the opposite of some of what you would call the haters.
Time will tell if your assumptions become reality.
I'm going to wait and see

Bretsky
08-29-2007, 06:19 PM
I think the game starts out like a normal close game. 3 pts here, 7 pts there. Nobody really walking away in the 1st half. Then the second half will roll around and our defense will still be rested up front and strong. They will continue to force 3 and outs, giving the ball back to our offense. Their defense will start to wear down as their depth up front is suspect. Eventually holes will start to open up in the running game and late in the 3rd, early in the 4th the Packers will start to dominate all phases of the game. They will have to blitz to get pressure and our Oline/RB's will pick up the blitz, allowing FAvre to connect deep to Jennings for a big, late TD. We'll win convincingly 24-10.

Favre will throw for 235 yds, 61% completion percentage and 2 TD's
Jackson will have 75 yards on 18 carries
Morency will have 50 yds on 11 carries
Jennings will have 7 catches for 90 yds and 1 TD
Jones will have 5 catches for 50 yds
The defense will look dominate, setting up the offnese for some easy points.


Go Pack :)


If Green Bay can effectively run the ball on the Eagles I think they can win.
This game will go a long way towards telling us if we have a good chance at being a playoff caliber team.

Hey, you forgot Driver in your stats ? He toughs things out; IMO he will see plenty of time.

HarveyWallbangers
08-29-2007, 09:31 PM
The Eagles have had our number in a big way. Quite honestly, I'd be happy with a 1-2 start with us looking competitive in the 2 losses. From there, the schedule gets a lot easier.

4and12to12and4
08-29-2007, 09:48 PM
Great post, Partial, excellent breakdown of the team. They will be strong again defensively, and obviously with McNabb and Westbrook, they have an excellent offense. They also have a receiver that was a rookie last year, (weird name, can't remember it), but he is a deep threat. This will be a very tough game to win, and if we can pull it out, it will be a HUGE confidence booster for the season. Unfortunately, I see us giving up pics in this game, I think our defense will need some turnovers to give us a chance, and we won't be able to fully stop Westbrook, but we HAVE to keep him from getting the big plays. Our safeties will be tested often throughout this game. Let's keep our fingers crossed. Thank God the Bears have to deal with the best team in the AFC and maybe the league. I don't see the Bears winning this game. My prediction is the Lions will be taking an early lead in the division. I hope I'm wrong. If we can beat the Eagles, that will be HUGE towards how good this team can be this year.

Partial
08-29-2007, 10:06 PM
The Eagles have had our number in a big way. Quite honestly, I'd be happy with a 1-2 start with us looking competitive in the 2 losses. From there, the schedule gets a lot easier.

That is definitely true. I cannot even think of the last time we beat them. I know its sad, but the last win I remember against them was Ryan Longwell's game winner many years ago. At least I think that was against the Eagles because I was like 16.

EDIT: THE LAST TIME WE BEAT PHILLY WAS SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2000. WE ARE 0-5 IN OUR LAST 5 MATCH-UPS. THAT IS INSANE. AND I DO THINK LONGWELL HIT A GAME-WINNER THAT GAME. IT WAS 6-3 PACK.



Great post, Partial, excellent breakdown of the team. They will be strong again defensively, and obviously with McNabb and Westbrook, they have an excellent offense.

Thank you.

One thing that everyone seems to take away from this that defensively they will be strong. That was kind of the exact opposite point I was making.

The strength of the Eagles has shifted from their defense and crazy blitzing schemes to their offense. The old Eagles that annually competed are mostly gone short of a few of the guys who were young back then. They're more of an offensive team these days. Not to say that they're a bad defensive team, but their two best players are on offense.

Carolina_Packer
08-29-2007, 10:57 PM
One thing that I think will be in our favor is that McNabb probably won't do as much with his feet to make plays, as he will likely be less mobile and trying to protect himself more. There have been games where McNabb has really stuck it to us with his escapability. I think if we can contain him, put pressure on him, then I think that will bode well for us.

Partial
08-29-2007, 11:00 PM
One thing that I think will be in our favor is that McNabb probably won't do as much with his feet to make plays, as he will likely be less mobile and trying to protect himself more. There have been games where McNabb has really stuck it to us with his escapability. I think if we can contain him, put pressure on him, then I think that will bode well for us.

I agree with this. For this match-up based upon the quality and size of our ends, the speed of our LBs, and the ability to generate pressure from anywhere on the line, I would shadow Westbrook all day long and simply play a containment style of offense on him. I wouldn't gameplan around McNabb too much because we can rattle his cage with some pressure.

Stopping Westbrook will stop the Eagles.

LaFours
08-30-2007, 08:28 AM
Don't they still have Jim Johnson as their D Coordinator? If so, the Philly defense will be fine regardless of their talent level.

I think this will be one of those mean-spirited cage match-esque games where we're gonna have to play some pretty mean football to get the W.

Partial
08-30-2007, 11:49 AM
Don't they still have Jim Johnson as their D Coordinator? If so, the Philly defense will be fine regardless of their talent level.

I think this will be one of those mean-spirited cage match-esque games where we're gonna have to play some pretty mean football to get the W.

Yes, Jim Johnson is still their coordinator but I don't know that they have the talent to blitz effectively a lot. Like the 2004 packers, it is very possibly that by blitzing often they will get burned. You need to have a good defensive line to blitz effectively, and I am not so sure they will generate a lot of pressure.

That said, I am sure they will still blitz something like 35% of the snaps and if DD is not at 100%, James Jones had better spend some extra time with the coaches working on his hot routes and his ability to read a defense to tell if they're blitzing. All offseason long this is what we have heard has been his weakness. Let's hope that he becomes solid at this before the season starts because we cannot afford a costly turnover over something stupid like that.

I agree it will be a battle. Whatever team can establish the run and control the clock will likely win. Hopefully thats us.