The Official Packers VS. Titans Game Day Thread.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Are we forgetting that there is a game today? :D

Hopefully Favre and the starting offense plays the first quarter and gains some extra experience with each other today because last week there was a lot of mistakes. Hopefully Favre can get on the same page with Jennings and Jones and gain some more confidence in them. I also would like to see Holiday and Martin step up today just in case Driver can’t play the opener. I don’t think Jackson is playing today, but this will be a good chance for us to see what we have in our back up running backs. I would love for Wynn to step up and make an impact because I love his size and think he could be a nice change of pace back.

Also, Rodgers has another chance to show that he is worthy of becoming the future starting QB in GB. Rodgers has had three good games and hopefully he can continue that today as well. Go Pack Go.
8-)

[MJZiggy]

Are we forgetting that there is a game today? :D



Oh thank God!! Yes, a little touch and rhythm would be welcome especially if we can move the ball on the ground a little bit early--even with Jackson out. When does Morency get back?

Come on, boys!!! :clap: :clap:

[Harlan Huckleby]

hey ziggy! it's 10 AM - coctail hour! gotta get ready for the game.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Posted August 30, 2007
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5 things to watch in tonight's game

1. The Packers have only one unsettled starting job, at safety opposite Nick Collins, and Atari Bigby can wrap up that with a sound performance tonight. He started last week against Jacksonville and remained in the role in practice this week, so it's his to lose. The Packers are sitting his competition, veteran Marquand Manuel, presumably so Manuel won't get hurt in case they want to cut him if they're satisfied with Bigby. That will give backups Charlie Peprah and Tyrone Culver extensive playing time to show they can fill in during the regular season if injuries occur.


2. First-round draft pick Justin Harrell has had a quiet training camp at defensive tackle. He's a big man who's been a strong anchor in the middle, but he hasn't made many plays. The Packers gave him more snaps in training camp than any other defensive tackle to help get him into football shape. He missed most of his senior year in college with a torn biceps tendon. But they also thought they wore him down and hurt his performance in camp. They backed off on his workload this week, so he should be as fresh and sharp as he's been in training camp. If the regular season started tonight, he probably wouldn't suit up for the 45-man roster. He'll get extensive playing time tonight to show whether he's ready to move up the depth chart.


3. With rookie Brandon Jackson (concussion) and Vernand Morency (knee) in shaky health for the start of the season, the Packers are desperate to find a running back with more running talent than the dependable Noah Herron, who is the No. 3 back. The best shot for that on their roster is seventh-round pick DeShawn Wynn, a career underachiever and injury-prone player at Florida. Wynn missed the first three preseason games because of a quadriceps injury, so this is his last stand. Coach Mike McCarthy will give him as many carries as he can handle to see if he's worth a spot on the roster.


4. The camp-long kicking battle is coming down to the last week. The best guess is sixth-round draft pick Mason Crosby has a slight edge over Dave Rayner, but tonight will factor in. McCarthy said he might even concede a third-down play if he's in long field-goal range to give Rayner or Crosby a shot at a tough kick in a game setting. Crosby had a 52-yarder against Pittsburgh, so Rayner presumably will get the next shot at a long attempt. Both clearly are NFL-caliber kickers and auditioning for other teams, as well. The Packers are looking to trade one before final cuts Saturday.


5. More than anything, the Packers' goal for this game is to come out without any injuries of note. The starters will play a couple of series at most, so that's when the most critical damage could occur, though several key backups will play extensively.

[MJZiggy]

hey ziggy! it's 10 AM - coctail hour! gotta get ready for the game.

Are you buyin? If you're buyin' I'm drinkin'! What time is kickoff anyway? NFLN isn't broadcasting until 7 p.m Sunday???? I'm gonna be really drunk by then.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think this game goes like last year's preseason finale against Tennessee. We play our starters for 2 series, and Fisher plays them into the 3rd quarter. Thus, we'll look progressively worse as the game goes on. You can mark this one as a loss. I wish I had some money to bet. I want to see some of the backups and bubble guys show something against Tennessee's starters. Mainly, I'll be watching these guys: Aaron Rodgers, James Jones, DeShawn Wynn, Justin Harrell, Johnny Jolly, Rory Johnson, Jarrett Bush, Frank Walker, Charlie Peprah, Aaron Rouse

[MJZiggy]

I'm especially interested in what Jennings can do...

[esoxx]

Hasn't Rouse been ruled out for this game? I don't think he's been upgraded that I've seen.
Big game for Peprah tonight. Also Walker/Dendy battle will be decided.
Birdine/Hunter too. A lot to watch for in this one actually. Careers are on the line.

[GBRulz]

It's time for Zac to step up and claim his roster spot!!

[Partial]

Should be an entertaining game. Any chance a local gainesville bar will get this game tonight?!?

[Rastak]

I think this game goes like last year's preseason finale against Tennessee. We play our starters for 2 series, and Fisher plays them into the 3rd quarter. Thus, we'll look progressively worse as the game goes on. You can mark this one as a loss. I wish I had some money to bet. I want to see some of the backups and bubble guys show something against Tennessee's starters. Mainly, I'll be watching these guys: Aaron Rodgers, James Jones, DeShawn Wynn, Justin Harrell, Johnny Jolly, Rory Johnson, Jarrett Bush, Frank Walker, Charlie Peprah, Aaron Rouse


Yea, Wynn should be interesting. I didn't realize Fisher was smart enough to get his guys work...... :wink:

[GBRulz]

Should be an entertaining game. Any chance a local gainesville bar will get this game tonight?!?

Still in FL, I take it?

Unfortunately, no...it's only on state TV, but will be rebroadcast on NFLN a few times throughout the next week.

[BallHawk]

It's time for Zac to step up and claim his roster spot!!

Give it up. I'm sure if he's cut he'll end up on Grey's Anatomy.

[GBRulz]

zip it, young man!

[HarveyWallbangers]

I didn't realize Fisher was smart enough to get his guys work...... :wink:

Indeed, and it worked very well last year. They got off to an 0-5 start--despite playing their starters more than most teams.
:twisted:

[Partial]

I am curious to see how many snaps JJ and KH get in this game. I would think they will play on the first and second teams essentially just to get them more reps before Philly.

I have a hunch those guys, Bigby, Colledge and Juice get some extra work.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I expect a REAL snoozer this evening.

It will be interesting to see DeShawn Wynn & James Jones in action, tho.

[Joemailman]

I'll be interested to see if Clowney shows something. Reports have said he has been coming on lately in practice. If he makes some plays, he has a chance to steal the last WR spot from Holiday. Clowney adds a dimension of blazing speed that the other WR's don't. Holiday, in my opinion, doesn't really do anything that Jones and Martin don't do just as well.

[wpony]

I am interested to see how DeShawn Wynn does tonight as this as we are at RB will we keep him if he bombs out tonight or puts us to sleep with his running? any way go pack go

[Fritz]

DeShawn Wynn is my hope to be the knight who rides in and saves the Packer running game. I look forward to his performance. Unless he sucks, in which case I'll pretend I never wanted him to or thought he could succeed.

I also hope that Bigby doesn't fall apart and that "James" Mason Crosby nails the kicking job down. Or that one of the two does; I'm not sure I care who it is.

Harlan, I'd love to buy the blue dog a drink sometime. I might be in Madison to visit my daughter (she's a Badger now) in November. What are the odds?

[gbpackfan]

Things I'll be watching for:

1. Wynn, can he actually run the rock?
2. Is there a #3 TE on this team or will we have to go get one?
3. Harrell, will we hear his name mentioned?
4. Clowney, can he earn a spot on the roster?
5. Which kicker will blink first?
6. How many ints will Thompson throw?
7. Is there a 6th LB worth keeping?

[CaliforniaCheez]

Anybody else having trouble getting the pregame show over the internet??

WTMJ does not have Packer programming(that does not make it the flagship of the radio network as claimed)

WIXX isn't broadcasting.

Any suggestions??

What did I miss??

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harlan, I'd love to buy the blue dog a drink sometime. I might be in Madison to visit my daughter (she's a Badger now) in November. What are the odds?

With your recomendation, I should think my chances with her ought to be pretty good.

(I have never turned down a drink, see the BOTH of you in Nov.)

[GrnBay007]

Harlan, I'd love to buy the blue dog a drink sometime. I might be in Madison to visit my daughter (she's a Badger now) in November. What are the odds?

With your recomendation, I should think my chances with her ought to be pretty good.

(I have never turned down a drink, see the BOTH of you in Nov.)

LOL!!! there goes your chance for a free drink!!

[Guiness]

Actually, I'm interested to see if White gets some carries early.

He performed well against the scrubs (but playing with scrubs...) against Jax. I'd like to see him get some 1st or 2nd team carries instead of Herron. I think he earned it last game.

[gbgary]

i flipped through the game thread from last week looking for the link to that sight, that had streaming video, but i couldn't find it. does anyone have that link??

[BallHawk]

i flipped through the game thread from last week looking for the link to that sight, that had streaming video, but i couldn't find it. does anyone have that link??

Here you go:

http://www.rock921.com/main.html

[Deputy Nutz]

Why the fuck is herron returning kicks? He is the slowest running back I have ever seen.

[Deputy Nutz]

Hope Hanesworth doesn't stomp on someone's grape

[Him8123]

92.1 is streaming the audio any other suggestions??

[Deputy Nutz]

Favre threw the ball out of bounds, who gives a shit if Jones wasn't sure.

[PackerBlues]

Here we go again with the rookies running crappy routes...... Bring in Chambers!

[RashanGary]

Defense still looks good even though the whole secondary and linebackers are 2nd string.

[Him8123]

anybody know where you can listen, possibly see the game on the net??

[RashanGary]

TE and FB look fine to me ;)

[Deputy Nutz]

Is it just me or is Franks not only back, but an upgraded version?

[4and12to12and4]

This sucks. I can't watch this game until Sunday on the NFL Network. Oh well, better than last year, when I missed almost every preseason game because I'm not in Wisconsin. At least I get to watch it Sunday. I'm so glad I purchased the NFL Ticket this year. I can tape 3 games and watch one. I'll get to see all the NFC North teams.

[Him8123]

man I love talking to myself

[Deputy Nutz]

Bullock is good

[Deputy Nutz]

Wynn drops the ball, hit him in the hands, bad place

[Deputy Nutz]

Herron catches a pass for a touchdown.

Nice second effort

Late hit on Brett that wasn't called by Vandenbosch

[Harlan Huckleby]

ridiculously late hit

[RashanGary]

man I love talking to myself

Somewhere on the first page I think there was a link to the game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I like the looks of Wynn. He's quick and big.

[Joemailman]

If Wynn needs to beat out Herron, he's off to a bad start.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

ok watching the game right now, herron just scored.

1. Our hurry up offense looked effortless driving down the field on the last posession.

2. Wynn is stinking it up already, a dropped pass that might have went for a td before herron's, as well as some weak running.

3. Defense was flying around the ball and forced a quick 3 and out.

4. Jennings is looking great, only 2 catches but broke tackles on both of them. Jones is looking well too, as is Franks.

[Him8123]

how are you doing
im alright
glad I got someone to talk to

[RashanGary]

I agree that Franks looks better, Nutz.

On a completely different note, Tracy White looks like he mgiht have that 5th LB spot locked up.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If Wynn needs to beat out Herron, he's off to a bad start.

don't listen to nutz, that was a tough catch.

HErron made the team. I think Wynn is competing against himself only, or a back from another team.

[RashanGary]

how are you doing
im alright
glad I got someone to talk to

You just have to stick with it. We all have thousands of posts so we know what we want to argue with each other about and we grow to respect certain opinions from each other. You're new. If you are as big of a loser as us, you'll find a home here :)

[4and12to12and4]

Hey Him, you can't get the game either?

[Joemailman]

I like the looks of Wynn. He's quick and big.

He looks good, but he needs to catch the damn ball inside the 10 yard line.

[Deputy Nutz]

I thought it was Bishop that put the hit on Vince?

For sure it is going to be White and Bishop.

Hodge has to go on IR for himself and the team.


I see white made nice play on special teams, gotta like that

[4and12to12and4]

Whats the friggin score?

[Deputy Nutz]

7-0 pack

[4and12to12and4]

What type of play did Herron score on?

[BallHawk]

What type of play did Herron score on?

6 yard pass play.

Can your computer run gamecenter?

[Deputy Nutz]

Bishop needs to attack that screen pass and not what for the guy to catch the ball and run at him. the blockers will be up to the second level already.


Pop needs to rap up

[Him8123]

cant find live audio or video, and my sirius gets shit for reception inside the house

[Deputy Nutz]

Poor tackling again by Bishop.

[4and12to12and4]

Yeah, but isn't that just kind of reading the game, not actual live footage? Just showing lines on a field and description of each play?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Wow, Bigby looked explosive closing in on that last play. Completely came out of the picture to beat whatever LB was chasing the reciever.

[Deputy Nutz]

Lyndel likes to eat.

Why have Young roll out on a boot leg option pass?
Its pre season for shit sake?

[BallHawk]

Wow, Bigby looked explosive closing in on that last play. Completely came out of the picture to beat whatever LB was chasing the reciever.

He's got the job, no question.

[Deputy Nutz]

Bigby shows how to tackle

[BallHawk]

Who the hell is Tim Goodwell?

I didn't even know he was on our team. :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Who the hell is Tim Goodwell?

I didn't even know he was on our team. :lol:

no kidding. boy they got the super scrubs in their quikly.

this is going to be a snoozer

[Deputy Nutz]

Wynn just looks rusty,

Rodgers makes a nice play in the pocket

[4and12to12and4]

Talk at you guys later. This is depressing, not being able to watch the game, I'll stay away from this thread until I watch the game on Sunday and then start putting my two cents in. I'd like a little surprise as I watch the game. Time to concentrate on the Cubbies, hopefully kicking the Brewers asses. See ya, enjoy the game.

[Deputy Nutz]

Fucking Wynn. Catch the fucking ball. Bad touch by Rodgers, but shit

[Harlan Huckleby]

Jones = Sterling Sharpe

[Deputy Nutz]

Now that Rodgers doesn't keep the ball up by his ear, he has developed some really good arm strength.

I like the packers receivers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Fucking Wynn. Catch the fucking ball. Bad touch by Rodgers, but shit

oh christ, Rogers thru the ball in his anus.

[Deputy Nutz]

Wynn had no where to run on that last play.

Rodgers should have hit Wynn over the middle on that 3rd and 4.

[Deputy Nutz]

Crosby misses a 52 yarder!

[BallHawk]

Crosby misses a 52 yarder!

Was it close or just completely off?

[Deputy Nutz]

He put a nice foot on it but it sliced to the left

[Lurker64]

Crosby misses a 52 yarder!

Was it close or just completely off?

Word on the radio was that it didn't miss by much, and if it would have hit, it would have hit from 62.

[Him8123]

all i can watch right now is panthers and steelers

[Him8123]

what radio you listening on

[Deputy Nutz]

tennessee going with their starters for a lot longer than the Packers

Clowney should probably hang on to that ball

[Him8123]

the way it looks right now, wynn looks like shit

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm switching to America's Funniest Home Videos

[Deputy Nutz]

Bishop isn't looking very good

[Deputy Nutz]

Bush might want to stick with his receiver

[Deputy Nutz]

Hunter can't play the run

[Deputy Nutz]

Bigby better keep his head on a swivel, he got his ass knocked to the ground on Youngs TD run

[RashanGary]

It sucks that they went to 3rd stringers so soon.

[Bretsky]

Blackmond has shown twice now that he has more ball hawking skills. He's able to turn around, locate the ball, and position himself to knock it away.

[Joemailman]

You sure it was Bigby? I didn't think he was still in.

[Deputy Nutz]

Rodgers is reverting to the Rodgers of old, holding onto the ball way to long.

[RashanGary]

The 2nd string Oline is doing a horrible job pass protecting. It looks like the starting Oline last year.

[PackerBlues]

Starting to feel bad for RB Wynn, this is his chance to prove himself.......and the O-line is not opening any lanes for him. Not that the O-line is opening any lanes for anyone else, but still....... :roll:

[Deputy Nutz]

I think it is a bit silly to have your first team defense in the game for 2 quarters in the last pre season game.

[Deputy Nutz]

Wynn looks like he is in good shape. Muscular guy, looks short.

[Joemailman]

Wynn has talent, but does look rusty. I like him better than White at RB though.

[RashanGary]

The starters played well again. Now we just have to wait until Philly. That last part of the roster is probably more important than giving the fans a show. Still, it sucks to watch our 2nd and 3rd stringers line up against their #1's.

[Deputy Nutz]

I think Orren Thompson is going to be cut. He isn't very good.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Wynn has talent, but does look rusty. I like him better than White at RB though.

Ya, at least there is hope with Wynn.


On America's Funniest Videos this cat layed on a bald guy's head while he was sleeping - it was great.

[Joemailman]

Keep us posted, Blue Dog.

[Guiness]

White is in now - as I posted earlier, I'm curious to see what he does.

VY played the whole half...

[Fritz]

Sheesh. It sounds like all those borderline guys that needed to make an impression are sucking azz - Clowney, Wynn, Thompson. And it sounds like Dezzmond Bishop is sucking azz, too.

And even Rodgers is getting into the act? Ouch.

[RashanGary]

Wynn had his moments. He seems like a guy that you hate to get rid of becuase if he gets his head on straight, he has starting RB potential. He's raw though. The best case is stashing him on the practice squad, getting him in shape and then having our 3rd RB set in stone next year.

[gbpackfan]

In defense of the Packers, they are playing scrubs against starters.

WYNN IS SUCKING ASS!!!!

THIS TEAM DOES NOT HAVE A RUNNING BACK!!!!

AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joemailman]

Rodgers looked ok when Jones and Martin were at WR. Hard to judge him playing with 2nd and 3rd stringers against Titan's starters.

[Deputy Nutz]

I really think they are gong to carry four running backs, whether it is Wynn or White at this point is up in the air.

Although White came in as a fullback he has had limited plays at that position so it will be tough to cut a pure fullback in Miree to keep White who is unproven at the position.

[Lurker64]

Our starters went 8-8 last year, their starters went 8-8 last year. I expected that their starters should be able to whup our scrubs, honestly.

Our starters looked pretty good though.

[RashanGary]

Our starters went 8-8 last year, their starters went 8-8 last year. I expected that their starters should be able to whup our scrubs, honestly.

Our starters looked pretty good though.

This is what I thought too. I'm suprised how sharp the passing game has been. Jones, Jennings and Franks all played well, Driver said he'll be ready, the oline is doing a good job in pass pro.

The defense has looked really good

The #1 ST's have looked really good

The run game is a big question, but I think they can do better once they start cutting the backside of the run plays down.

[Deputy Nutz]

Packer starters pretty much wiped the field with them.

[Lurker64]

TOUCHDOWN JUSTIN HARRELL!

[MadtownPacker]

TOUCHDOWN JUSTIN HARRELL!You serious?

[Deputy Nutz]

That was a good play by Harrell, athletic, Birdine showed a little something getting to Young.

Keep your starters in there so they can get smacked around by the Packers second stringers. If Young gets hurt Fischer is going to get strung up by his balls.

[Joemailman]

Birdine stripped the ball. Wonder if he just made the team.

[Guiness]

Harrell with a TD! Wow, pretty impressive. I'd guess most DT's go their entire career w/o one, and he gets one in his first preseason 8-)

18yds too. Has the guy got some wheels? You'd think SOMEONE would've caught him

[Guiness]

VY STILL in the game. You have to think after that sack they'll get him out of there. Fischer would get hung if he got hurt now.

[Deputy Nutz]

If anyone is wondering the Brewers will now lose the game against the cubs because Yost has brought in Capuano in the 4th inning.

[Guiness]

Mmmm, Rayner kicked off to the 3, with a 24yd runback. 2 minutes later, Crosby to the -3 with a touchback.

Ouch for Rayner.

[OS PA]

SOO Mason Crosby is our kicker?

[Deputy Nutz]

Harrell is athletic when he has his wind. He just has to learn how to use his hands better.

[Deputy Nutz]

Bishop is having a really poor game, missing tackles, and not reading the screens and getting into the passing lanes

[wpony]

wynn looks like he just cant start his burners tonight he gets some yards but he is just not turning it on, he is just thinking to much not playing natural at all

[Deputy Nutz]

Wynn runs a little high for such a short player.

[Guiness]

22yd punt return? Yuck. Anyone see that? Was it a line drive, or just poor coverage down field?

[GrnBay007]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

[RashanGary]

I think Wynn could be a player if he had a great off season under his belt. He was out of shape coming in, he needs to be more explosive and better conditioned. Same goes for a lot of rookies though.


Burdine and Muir are both going to be hard to cut.

[Joemailman]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

[GrnBay007]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

Thanks Joe

[Bretsky]

I think Wynn could be a player if he had a great off season under his belt. He was out of shape coming in, he needs to be more explosive and better conditioned. Same goes for a lot of rookies though.


Burdine and Muir are both going to be hard to cut.


I've read Muir has looked very good in practices; Burdine IMO has looked better than Harrell in the preseason. He's been disruptive

[RashanGary]

I gaurantee that at least two decisions became easier for Thompson after that PR for a TD.

Ryan does need to put more height on those balls though. Those low punts are too easy to return.

[Lurker64]

Is this game being broadcast live on TV anywhere? How bad's the Culver injury look?

[mmmdk]

70 yard punt return - Titans up 27-14.

[PackerTimer]

For those who still care about the Brewers, Cappy just gave up back to back homers. I know, you're shocked. :shock:

[Freak Out]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

Harrell scored a TD! Sweet....int? Fumble return?

[PackerTimer]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

Harrell scored a TD! Sweet....int? Fumble return?

Fumble returned for a touchdown.

[Joemailman]

Paul Thompson sacked on 4th and 2. Not good.

[PackerBlues]

Burdine caused the fumble, Harrell was in position to run it in.

As for Culvers injury........ its just like a lot of other injuries that you see in the last preseason game, by a guy who probably wont make the team anyway. My guess is that there is more acting than injury.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

James looks like he's for real. I REALLY like him.

[Bretsky]

Hi all, how are the Packers looking? Just got home from Parent's night at school. It's a conspiracy.....everything for our family is scheduled during Packer games.

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

Harrell scored a TD! Sweet....int? Fumble return?

Fumble returned for a touchdown.


Honestly, Burdine sp? had the impressive penetration and knocked the ball away; it was kind of a fluke that Harrell was there and he was athletic enough to catch the ball and run it for 15yds or so into the end zone

[MTPackerfan]

looks like they are trying to see what Wynn can do, he is almost up to 2.5 yds per carry

[Guiness]

I gaurantee that at least two decisions became easier for Thompson after that PR for a TD.

Ryan does need to put more height on those balls though. Those low punts are too easy to return.

What decision? Didn't they already cut the other punter?

Not following you here.

[RashanGary]

I was talking about whoever screwed up their assignment on ST's. I added the Ryan comment at the end but the main point was that whoever blew that coverage just hurt their chances.

[Bretsky]

I gaurantee that at least two decisions became easier for Thompson after that PR for a TD.

Ryan does need to put more height on those balls though. Those low punts are too easy to return.

What decision? Didn't they already cut the other punter?

Not following you here.


I think he was hinting as to some players on the bubble who had special teams breakdowns

[RashanGary]

Good:

James Jones
Greg Jennings
Bubba Franks
Pass blocking
1st team defense


Bad:

Running game still struggling (I still think it will get better in the reg season)
Wynn looks out of shape and very uncomfortable catching the ball
3rd team ST's

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Good = Favre 8-)

[Bretsky]

Good:

James Jones
Greg Jennings
Bubba Franks
Pass blocking
1st team defense


Bad:

Running game still struggling (I still think it will get better in the reg season)
Wynn looks out of shape and very uncomfortable catching the ball
3rd team ST's


I'd throw Burdine into the good; we need to find a way to keep that guy.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Good:

James Jones
Greg Jennings
Bubba Franks
Pass blocking
1st team defense


Bad:

Running game still struggling (I still think it will get better in the reg season)
Wynn looks out of shape and very uncomfortable catching the ball
3rd team ST's


I'd throw Burdine into the good; we need to find a way to keep that guy.

Isn't Burdine an DE? If he is I would imagine it would be between him and Hunter for the forth spot

[Harlan Huckleby]

Burdine and Muir will be on other teams rosters.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Burdine and Muir will be on other teams rosters.

How are you so sure? Is hunter that much better than Burdine.

[Willard]

Just got off work. I hear we found our running back......

Longest run of the night goes to.....Justin Harrell!!!! He may be our 6th best DT, but he shows some moves with the rock in his paw!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Burdine and Muir will be on other teams rosters.

How are you so sure? Is hunter that much better than Burdine.

Well, I don't know, but I doubt they will keep more than 10 defensive linemen on the regular roster.

If Montgomery doesn't go on the PUP, Burdine, Muir and Hunter could all be gone.

[Partial]

Hope Hanesworth doesn't stomp on someone's grape

LOL!! :lol:

Some scouts around the league have made comments that Haynesworth might be the most dominant DT in the league. He is just a big man.

In my opinion, 2 of the top 3(Haynesworth, Kevin Williams, John Henderson) are out of the University of Tennesee. I'm hoping the Packers struck gold as well!!

[b bulldog]

As of now, bad isn't the proper word to describe our running game.

[Rastak]

Didn't see any of the Packer game but the Viking game sure pissed me off. They charge full prices for preseason games and the Viking starters played one series and the Cowboys starters played ZERO.


I know they used the Harvey theory of I'm too scared to play my guys ( :wink: ) but to charge full price to watch a scrimmage is friggen insane....

[Harlan Huckleby]

As of now, bad isn't the proper word to describe our running game.

bulldog, always the gentleman

[Partial]

what radio you listening on

The game was on WSSP this week I guess. I don't know how I know that. But that is AM1250 in Milwaukee.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.

[Rastak]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.


He did indeed....over the middle sort of with a bit of YAC added on....

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Again I really like that TE Tony Curtis on Dallas. He had another good game today, I wish we could trade for him.

[Bretsky]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.


He did indeed....over the middle sort of with a bit of YAC added on....


Great news; I hope he makes your team. Definite evidence that you must have the wost WR core in football.

The Atari Asteroid waits for Fergy da Fraud coming across the middle :lol:

I love Ferguson.......now that he's not on the Pack anymore

[Bretsky]

Again I really like that TE Tony Curtis on Dallas. He had another good game today, I wish we could trade for him.


Dallas needs a Kicker; I also thought a guy like Tyson Thompson might help out team. Basically TT will look to trade a kicker for a player somebody else will but at a position of weakness in GB. Hope it works

[Joemailman]

As of now, bad isn't the proper word to describe our running game.

I don't think you can draw anything from tonight's game regarding the running game. They hardly ran the ball with the first team in there.

[esoxx]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.


He did indeed....over the middle sort of with a bit of YAC added on....

Fergie's got some YAC in him. He's pretty good after the catch. Of course the trick is for him to catch the ball with alligator arms. Once he does that he's pretty decent.

They been working him as a kick returner at all? He's pretty decent at that too.

[Rastak]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.


He did indeed....over the middle sort of with a bit of YAC added on....


Great news; I hope he makes your team. Definite evidence that you must have the wost WR core in football.

The Atari Asteroid waits for Fergy da Fraud coming across the middle :lol:

I love Ferguson.......now that he's not on the Pack anymore


Hey I ain't claiming he good...LOL....Sidney Rice had a couple really nice catches on bad throws (that ain't good ) including a TD....ole Fergy was wide open on that play, for whatever reason.


He was running with the scrubs for what it's worth....

[Bretsky]

Ferguson caught a 38 yard pass lol.


He did indeed....over the middle sort of with a bit of YAC added on....


Great news; I hope he makes your team. Definite evidence that you must have the wost WR core in football.

The Atari Asteroid waits for Fergy da Fraud coming across the middle :lol:

I love Ferguson.......now that he's not on the Pack anymore


Hey I ain't claiming he good...LOL....Sidney Rice had a couple really nice catches on bad throws (that ain't good ) including a TD....ole Fergy was wide open on that play, for whatever reason.


He was running with the scrubs for what it's worth....

Fergie will still work for us by cutting into some better players playing time

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Again I really like that TE Tony Curtis on Dallas. He had another good game today, I wish we could trade for him.


Dallas needs a Kicker; I also thought a guy like Tyson Thompson might help out team. Basically TT will look to trade a kicker for a player somebody else will but at a position of weakness in GB. Hope it works

The RB is probably more likely considering that they are pretty deep there.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I watched both the Vikings and Packers tonight, and this is why preseason is meaningless. Vikes win 23-14, and it was a bunch of 2nd/3rd stringers and soon to be cut players against a bunch of 2nd/3rd stringers and soon to be cut players. The one guy, Tarvaris Jackson, that should have played a lot for them (all preaseaso, in fact) got taken out early. Dallas took their starters out about the same time the Packers took their starters out. Completely meaningless.

I will say that it's nice to know that Green Bay outscored their opponents 27-3 when it was 1st stringers vs. 1st stringers this preseason and not too many serious injuries, so a good preseason all in all.

Did anybody notice that friggin' Zac Alcorn, Adam Stenavich, Travis Leffew were in the game with 5 minutes in the FIRST quarter? Guys that likely won't make the team. It's good though. They have some tape on some guys now. Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers came out of the game before Vince Young and the Titans starters did. Kerry Collins vs. Paul Thompson isn't a fair fight either.
:D

[HarveyWallbangers]

Coach Jeff Fisher used this game as his dress rehearsal for the Titans' season opener at Jacksonville, playing most of his starters into the third quarter.

The Packers scratched 15 players, including receiver Donald Driver (foot) and both starting cornerbacks, Al Harris and Charles Woodson. What remained of the first-team defense left after one series, a three-and-out.

This is all that needs to be said about this game--although it was interesting to see some of the borderline guys fighting it out.

1st team offense out after 2 series. 1st team defense out after 1 or 2 series. Titans starters play until midway through the 3rd period.

[MadtownPacker]

What remained of the first-team defense left after one series, a three-and-out.
Damn!!! Seemed like the D did this all preseason. I can't wait until week 1.

[Rastak]

The one guy, Tarvaris Jackson, that should have played a lot for them (all preaseaso, in fact) got taken out early.


And this after you just got done saying starters shouldn't play in game four....Harvey Harvey Harvey. The used the Harvey approach and he played one damn series.


Anyway, preseason is over and doesn't mean shit now. Next up, week one.....

[packers11]

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?season=2007&week=PRE4&game_id=29506

footage of the game...

haha look at Harrell rolling around in the end zone...

[HarveyWallbangers]

And this after you just got done saying starters shouldn't play in game four....Harvey Harvey Harvey. The used the Harvey approach and he played one damn series.

Anyway, preseason is over and doesn't mean shit now. Next up, week one.....

That isn't my approach necessarily. It is with guys like Favre and Driver. Guys like T-Jack, Aaron Rodgers, Atari Bigby, James Jones should play more. I've said that all preseason--that T-Jack should play as much as he can. Hell, I would have loved to seen ARod play the rest of the game after Favre. I didn't have high hopes for Thompson before the game anyways.


Long list: An indication of the different way the teams’ coaches approached this game, Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher held out only three players, whereas the Packers’ Mike McCarthy withheld 16.

Among the Packers’ scratches were six starters: Jackson (concussion), Driver (sprained foot), guard Jason Spitz (calf), and cornerbacks Charles Woodson and Al Harris, who aren’t injured but didn’t play so the Packers could get a longer look at their backup cornerbacks. Also, middle linebacker Nick Barnett was scheduled to start and went through warmups but didn’t play by McCarthy’s decision. Barnett has no injury.

In their places, the Packers started Noah Herron at halfback, James Jones at receiver, Junius Coston at right guard, Will Blackmon at left cornerback, Jarrett Bush at right cornerback and Desmond Bishop at middle linebacker.

McCarthy mainly wanted to get out of this game with his starters healthy and get a long look at backups contending for roster spots. His other lineup scratches Thursday were: receiver Shaun Bodiford (knee), running back Vernand Morency (strained patella), safety Aaron Rouse (hamstring), linebacker Abdul Hodge (patellar tendinitis), linebacker Spencer Havner (strained back), guard Tony Palmer (hamstring), tackle Tony Moll (neck stinger), defensive end Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (knee) and defensive end Michael Montgomery (knee).

Fisher, on the other hand, treated this game as a dress rehearsal for the regular-season opener – most teams use their third exhibition game for that. Among Tennessee’s three scratches was one starter, cornerback Nick Harper. Receiver David Givens and defensive tackle Rien Long also didn’t play.

I actually think the Titans are a good matchup in week 4 for our approach. Seriously, if you can get over the fact you are going to lose, it's a great training tool. Fisher seems to want to get some confidence for his team (he can do that with us playing our backups)--while McCarthy gets a game where he can really judge what he has in his backups and borderline guys. Maybe putting Travis Leffew and Adam Stenavich in when it was still the 1st quarter is a little much, but otherwise no problema.

[gbpackfan]

Didn't see any of the Packer game but the Viking game sure pissed me off. They charge full prices for preseason games and the Viking starters played one series and the Cowboys starters played ZERO.


I know they used the Harvey theory of I'm too scared to play my guys ( :wink: ) but to charge full price to watch a scrimmage is friggen insane....


Rastak,

They were talking about this issue on PTI today. The guys were saying if you're going to force fans to pay full price for these tickets in order to get regular season tickets, then you should HAVE to play your starters for at least a half. Not a bad idea. If you dont want to do that, then dont shove this shit down your fans' throats.

[Rastak]

What has a backup like Rodgers playing alot have to do with anything?

I thought we were talking about starters playing?

[Rastak]

Didn't see any of the Packer game but the Viking game sure pissed me off. They charge full prices for preseason games and the Viking starters played one series and the Cowboys starters played ZERO.


I know they used the Harvey theory of I'm too scared to play my guys ( :wink: ) but to charge full price to watch a scrimmage is friggen insane....


Rastak,

They were talking about this issue on PTI today. The guys were saying if you're going to force fans to pay full price for these tickets in order to get regular season tickets, then you should HAVE to play your starters for at least a half. Not a bad idea. If you dont want to do that, then dont shove this shit down your fans' throats.


I agree....actually the game was somewhat entertaining but Romo, Owens, Barber, Jones.....none of the Cowboys starters played it seemed. It was really a scrimmage.

[esoxx]

Didn't see any of the Packer game but the Viking game sure pissed me off. They charge full prices for preseason games and the Viking starters played one series and the Cowboys starters played ZERO.


I know they used the Harvey theory of I'm too scared to play my guys ( :wink: ) but to charge full price to watch a scrimmage is friggen insane....


Rastak,

They were talking about this issue on PTI today. The guys were saying if you're going to force fans to pay full price for these tickets in order to get regular season tickets, then you should HAVE to play your starters for at least a half. Not a bad idea. If you dont want to do that, then dont shove this shit down your fans' throats.


I agree....actually the game was somewhat entertaining but Romo, Owens, Barber, Jones.....none of the Cowboys starters played it seemed. It was really a scrimmage.

It's essentially why I don't go to preseason games anymore. Full admission price, full concession price, full parking price, etc.... and you get a glorified practice game for your bother. Really, it's gouging at it's finest.

I'm not sure why they even keep score of preseason games. Who cares who "won" the scrimmage.

The NFL knows they have a bunch of addicts for their product. It'd be like buying some blow that was fake at full price. It's BS.

[Rastak]

Didn't see any of the Packer game but the Viking game sure pissed me off. They charge full prices for preseason games and the Viking starters played one series and the Cowboys starters played ZERO.


I know they used the Harvey theory of I'm too scared to play my guys ( :wink: ) but to charge full price to watch a scrimmage is friggen insane....


Rastak,

They were talking about this issue on PTI today. The guys were saying if you're going to force fans to pay full price for these tickets in order to get regular season tickets, then you should HAVE to play your starters for at least a half. Not a bad idea. If you dont want to do that, then dont shove this shit down your fans' throats.


I agree....actually the game was somewhat entertaining but Romo, Owens, Barber, Jones.....none of the Cowboys starters played it seemed. It was really a scrimmage.

It's essentially why I don't go to preseason games anymore. Full admission price, full concession price, full parking price, etc.... and you get a glorified practice game for your bother. Really, it's gouging at it's finest.

I'm not sure why they even keep score of preseason games. Who cares who "won" the scrimmage.

The NFL knows they have a bunch of addicts for their product. It'd be like buying some blow that was fake at full price. It's BS.


Dude, I'm with ya, but as a season ticket holder I have NO OTHER OPTION. They force you to buy all games.....I would guess the Packers do the same....

[gbpackfan]

Rastak,

I have season tickets for the Pack but I have NO problem selling off my preseaon game. You see, unlike the Vikes, we have fans that actually WANT to attend games. HA HA HA :P Sorry about the cheap shot. :D

[Rastak]

Rastak,

I have season tickets for the Pack but I have NO problem selling off my preseaon game. You see, unlike the Vikes, we have fans that actually WANT to attend games. HA HA HA :P Sorry about the cheap shot. :D


Are you suggesting you have access to a larger pool of stupid people?


j/k sorry for the cheap shot back.... :)

[gbpackfan]

Possibly a larger pool of drunks! Isn't that what you do at preseason games. Get hammered!!! :D

[Rastak]

Possibly a larger pool of drunks! Isn't that what you do at preseason games. Get hammered!!! :D


Well, I did have four pints at the brewpub before the game and one Summit at the game.....so yes, I guess you do have it correct.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Honestly, Burdine sp? had the impressive penetration and knocked the ball away; it was kind of a fluke that Harrell was there and he was athletic enough to catch the ball and run it for 15yds or so into the end zone

Birdine made the play, but I think you are underseling Harrell on that play a bit. He drove the OL at least 5 yards back, so he got great push up the middle and put himself in position to make that play. It will be interesting to see how he looks when he's 100%. I know I read one of the writers say that it takes a year to regain full strength after having that injury, so I suspect he'll look better as the year goes on. Hopefully. He seems like he'll be at least a stout plugger in the middle when he's healthy. Not sure about his pass rush abilities. Really hard to judge the guy right now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Down 20-14 now, but Packers controlled the game when their starters were in there. Titans played their starters a lot longer. TD for Justin Harrell! Brett and JJ looked good. :clap:

Both Jones and Jennings made a couple of plays on the first two series. It's obvious that Jennings is playing Driver's spot in the offense when Driver is out--because he got more looks in two series than he has in the first three games with Driver in there.

[Partial]

Harv, did anything noteworthy occur? I can't find a postgame show online (WSSP live won't work for me) and I have no idea who did what tonight.

I realize the starters for only in for a bit. Any back-ups do anything to earn their spot or lose their spot short of Birdine? Did any of the safeties do anything to convince the Pack to ditch Manual?

[gbpackfan]

Partial,

I know you didnt ask me, but I'll butt in any way. Here are some things that stood out in the game.

Justin Harrell looked better. Got some nice push and did a REALLY nice job on that TD he scored. Harv is right, Harrell pushed the O linemen back and collapsed the pocket. This was by far his best game.

Peprah may have pushed Manuel out the door. Culver looks like he'll be out for awhile, if not out the door, then on IR. Peprah has a REAL nice pass break-up when he was one on one against a TE. He also had some nice tackles, not too many miss tackles, if any. Manuel is probably gone.

Bishop was not overly impressive tonight. That being said, he still looks like he belongs. Rookie mistakes. I still like him.

Blackmon broke up a TD pass, REAL, REAL nice play. His cast is pretty big, reminded me of Andre Thurman's from a year or two ago. Blackmon did not field a punt or kick.

Bush gave up a couple of completions but nothing major.

The Packers STILL can't run the ball. Wynn flashed at times but looked winded towards the end. He did have 22 carries (or so) and will probably end up on the practice squad.

The Packers cant go into the season without aquiring a true #3 TE. The Alcorn experiment should be over and Harris should be on the PS.

Another RB should be brought it. In my mind, it is a no brainer.

Miree is probably gone. He did not play well and got very few snaps. Hall and White, two rooks, will probably be your FBs. They may try and put White on the PS and sign a different FB after cuts.

It is going to be hard to hide Muir and Birdline on the PS. The Packers should probably put Montgomery on PUP or IR and keep Birdline. Muir may stick if they trade Cole or Williams. The next 48 hours will be very interesting.

Crosby did miss a 52 yarder, but he had plenty of leg. It traveled at least 60 if not more. I still think the rookie gets the job.

The Titans played their 1s vs. our 2s and 3s virtually in entire 3 quarters. Remember, it was 14-14 after the first play of the second half. Not bad. Giving up that punt return really made the score look bad for us, but it really wasnt that impressive of a showing by the Titans.

Brett looked great. What else is new?

Any other ?s

[HarveyWallbangers]

Here's what I remember:

1) Favre looked sharp. Jennings, Jones, and Bubba all made plays.
2) The run blocking wasn't good. Pass protection when the starters were in was solid. Not so good with the backups. Really, it's impossible to judge though. Kyle Vanden Bosch, Albert Haynesworth, etc. SHOULD dominate guys like Travis Leffew and Adam Stenavich.
3) Ryan had some great punts, but had 2 bad ones.
4) Crosby missed a 52-yard FG.
5) Clowney started off horribly. Rebounded a bit, but I think he lost a spot.
6) Bigby showed good speed on a good lick. I hope this guy can cover--because he looks good in support and on blitzes.
7) Blackmon gave up one and got one.
8) I thought Frank Walker outplayed Patrick Dendy, and Charlie Peprah outplayed Tyrone Culver.
9) Our backup LBs are weak.
10) Daniel Muir flashed again.
11) As far as Wynn, I thought he got zero blocking early, but had some nice runs when he did get blocking. Actually, I thought he looked better than in the scrimmage or practice (can't remember which I watched of him). He has rock hands though. He's a big guy that has some nifty feet. He's worth keeping around--at least on the PS.
12) Paul Thompson lost any shot he had of making the roster.
13) I thought Birdine and Hunter both made some plays, but Birdine lacks stamina.
14) I watched Harrell on a few plays. While he didn't dominate, he held the point and got some push on some of the plays.
15) I thought Bishop really struggled. He looks too much like Abdul Hodge to me.

[CaliforniaCheez]

So when will this "top ten" defense learn to tackle.

The failure to tackle will cause some players to miss out on a chance to be a benchwarmer.

[Partial]

Thanks gents. May the wind always be at your backs.

[gbpackfan]

I don't think anyone on the "top ten" starting D missed any tackles. I know it was only preseason but our D looked real good.

Some scrubs missed some tackles but every team goes through that.

[gbpackfan]

Here's what I remember:

1) Favre looked sharp. Jennings, Jones, and Bubba all made plays.
2) The run blocking wasn't good. Pass protection when the starters were in was solid. Not so good with the backups. Really, it's impossible to judge though. Kyle Vanden Bosch, Albert Haynesworth, etc. SHOULD dominate guys like Travis Leffew and Adam Stenavich.
3) Ryan had some great punts, but had 2 bad ones.
4) Crosby missed a 52-yard FG.
5) Clowney started off horribly. Rebounded a bit, but I think he lost a spot.
6) Bigby showed good speed on a good lick. I hope this guy can cover--because he looks good in support and on blitzes.
7) Blackmon gave up one and got one.
8) I thought Frank Walker outplayed Patrick Dendy, and Charlie Peprah outplayed Tyrone Culver.
9) Our backup LBs are weak.
10) Daniel Muir flashed again.
11) As far as Wynn, I thought he got zero blocking early, but had some nice runs when he did get blocking. Actually, I thought he looked better than in the scrimmage or practice (can't remember which I watched of him). He has rock hands though. He's a big guy that has some nifty feet. He's worth keeping around--at least on the PS.
12) Paul Thompson lost any shot he had of making the roster.
13) I thought Birdine and Hunter both made some plays, but Birdine lacks stamina.
14) I watched Harrell on a few plays. While he didn't dominate, he held the point and got some push on some of the plays.
15) I thought Bishop really struggled. He looks too much like Abdul Hodge to me.


Harv,

They barely showed it but dont you think Vanden Bosch hit on Brett after the TD pass was WAAAAAYYYY late. In my opinion, it was a cheap hit. Unless, he was blocked into him but I didnt think so. The replay showed Brett threw the ball and was hit WELL after. What the hell! Where was the flag?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Harv,

They barely showed it but dont you think Vanden Bosch hit on Brett after the TD pass was WAAAAAYYYY late. In my opinion, it was a cheap hit. Unless, he was blocked into him but I didnt think so. The replay showed Brett threw the ball and was hit WELL after. What the hell! Where was the flag?

I missed it, but that's what superfan told me. He said that Brett got hit while Herron was going into the endzone.

[gbpackfan]

It was bullshit. As big as that SOB is, I was ready to rip his head off when I saw Brett limping off the field. It was cheap.

[FritzDontBlitz]

isnt kyle van den bosch the same guy who hit carsom palmer low and tore up his knee in the playoff loss to pitt?

[gbpackfan]

Hmmm. I think that was Steelers nose tackle Kimo von Oelhoffen. But I can see how you could confuse the two.

[Bretsky]

Honestly, Burdine sp? had the impressive penetration and knocked the ball away; it was kind of a fluke that Harrell was there and he was athletic enough to catch the ball and run it for 15yds or so into the end zone

Birdine made the play, but I think you are underseling Harrell on that play a bit. He drove the OL at least 5 yards back, so he got great push up the middle and put himself in position to make that play. It will be interesting to see how he looks when he's 100%. I know I read one of the writers say that it takes a year to regain full strength after having that injury, so I suspect he'll look better as the year goes on. Hopefully. He seems like he'll be at least a stout plugger in the middle when he's healthy. Not sure about his pass rush abilities. Really hard to judge the guy right now.

Wasn't the play a pass play ? If he was rushing the passer I would not consider that driving the blocker back. Based on TT's comments and the medical staff checking him out throughly pre-draft, I don't think the expectation was for him to showly develop during the season.

[Partial]

isnt kyle van den bosch the same guy who hit carsom palmer low and tore up his knee in the playoff loss to pitt?

No that was Von Oelhoffen from Pittsburg.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Kind of interesting that the teams we played in the preseason went 11-2 in their other preseason games.

[Partial]

Kind of interesting that the teams we played in the preseason went 11-2 in their other preseason games.

Well, for the most part our 3rd strings were pretty much blown out. I don't think anyone could really argue with the success with our first team, though. If we stay healthy its looking like we could be ok. But then again I am fairly skeptical that Clifton and Tauscher will be able to make it through an entire season, same with Harris and Woodson.

[Harlan Huckleby]

9) Our backup LBs are weak.

They look like they all should be cut.

[HarveyWallbangers]

White is a very good special teams player. You need a backup LB that, I think. I don't mind Bishop backing the middle so much (although I feel the same way about him as I did Hodge last year), but we have no viable backups for the outside--unless the coaches see something in Rory Johnson. Spencer Havner may make it--just because of his versatility.