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GBRulz
09-16-2007, 12:57 PM
Yeah I'd like to see him break the TD record THIS year !! but as long as we're winning, I think he could care less how we get our TDs

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 12:58 PM
it would have been nice to see Brett toss one though. He needs to break out of his funk.

brett will get his. what we need is for the young'ns to contribute, and they all did on that td drive.

heck, even brandon is impressing me today.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 12:58 PM
TB is owning the Aints. 136 to 49 in yardage...

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 12:58 PM
Good for Deshawn Wynn.

He's stepping up.

Green Bay Packers at 11:31

1-10-GB 29 (11:31) 42-D.Wynn left guard to GB 24 for -5 yards (72-O.Umenyiora).

2-15-GB 24 (11:00) 4-B.Favre pass deep left to 89-J.Jones pushed ob at NYG 30 for 46 yards (23-C.Webster).

1-10-NYG 30 (10:43) 32-B.Jackson left tackle to NYG 28 for 2 yards (37-J.Butler).

2-8-NYG 28 (9:57) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 25-R.Grant to NYG 7 for 21 yards (23-C.Webster).

1-7-NYG 7 (9:13) 32-B.Jackson left tackle to NYG 6 for 1 yard (53-R.Torbor).

2-6-NYG 6 (8:27) (Shotgun) 42-D.Wynn up the middle for 6 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

2-M.Crosby extra point is GOOD, Center-60-R.Davis, Holder-9-J.Ryan.

GB 7 NYG 0 Plays: 6 Possession: 3:13

First offensive TD of 2007. :)

Rastak
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Vince Young, nice 21 yard run....

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Urk... that's never good to see.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Woodson sure falls down a lot - did it at least twice last week. Who'd the 'cleat' guy?

ND72
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
our defense is awesome.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
I thought we drafted a DL first to have a pass rush this year :roll:

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
Charles Woodson won't be putting that play on his highlight reel.

Too much time for Eli. TD to Plax. :?

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 12:59 PM
:oops:

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
That was fast....yikes!

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
well at least it's to my fantasy receiver.

outflow
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
Safety's fault, he had over the top inside.

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:00 PM
I thought we drafted a DL first to have a pass rush this year :roll:


He's resting his legs in street clothes so he'll be fresh later in the season :lol:

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:01 PM
Safety's fault, he had over the top inside.

Harris didn't even give him a bump...

Harlan Huckleby
09-16-2007, 01:01 PM
just a great play by the giants. shit happens.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:01 PM
That was fast....yikes!


I think they figured out that they can't run the ball that well anymore against us, and they've been throwing it well, so why not toss the ball...

Reminds me of a game I coached in 2002....we're 3 minutes into a High School footballg ame, and our head coach comes on the headphones, "well, I think we're done running the ball."

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
bigby got caught looking in the backfield too long, he never even saw burress crossing behind him.

rookies.

Joemailman
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
That's 2 weeks in a row that Woodson has given up a play because he slipped. Cornerbacks need to stay on their feet.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
At the same time, that last Packer drive gave me hope that this offense is capable of scoring multiple touchdowns today, let's hope they do.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
Is it time for Shot's head on the chopping block again? We had this problem last year of giving up the big plays (early in the season)

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
I thought we drafted a DL first to have a pass rush this year :roll:


He's resting his legs in street clothes so he'll be fresh later in the season :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:cry: :cry: :cry:

gbgary
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
just a perfect throw

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:02 PM
That was fast....yikes!


I think they figured out that they can't run the ball that well anymore against us, and they've been throwing it well, so why not toss the ball...

Reminds me of a game I coached in 2002....we're 3 minutes into a High School footballg ame, and our head coach comes on the headphones, "well, I think we're done running the ball."


LOL, gotta love it when a guy knows his limitations.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
2 plays 66 yards & 7 points. Dang!

b bulldog
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Shockey one on one against 77, 77 needs to win that battle

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
well at least it's to my fantasy receiver.

Me too. I started Plax in two out of three leagues today. :oops:

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
I thought we drafted a DL first to have a pass rush this year :roll:


He's resting his legs in street clothes so he'll be fresh later in the season :lol:

Funny, but not really!!

outflow
09-16-2007, 01:03 PM
Safety's fault, he had over the top inside.

Harris didn't even give him a bump...

Your point? Still the safety's responsibility regardless.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:04 PM
That TD reminds me of the early coverage we didn't have last season.

Al Harris didn't get his feet off the ground orhe might have deflected that pass.

Still that was an excellent route by Plaxico Burress and awesome pass by Eli Manning.

motife
09-16-2007, 01:04 PM
James Jones is going to be an All-Pro wide receiver.

His ability to focus and catch a football in a crowd is like nothing I've EVER seen.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:04 PM
Wynn is getting alot of work today....

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
Is it time for Shot's head on the chopping block again? We had this problem last year of giving up the big plays (early in the season)

Difference here was that there was pretty tight coverage on Plax in the end zone. It was a good play by the receiver rather than a gimme, from what I saw.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
just a perfect throw

Yeah, Bigby had him covered.

Manning isn't getting touched...

Hawk, tell me again, was he a 1st rd. pick? I know but I expect WAY more from Hawk - he's been nowhere for 2 weeks.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
I picked Jax in the survival pool today. That game is making me nervous. They are only up 3-0 against ATL

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:05 PM
James Jones is going to be an All-Pro wide receiver.

His ability to focus and catch a football in a crowd is like nothing I've EVER seen.


He looks great from what I've seen. Check out Sidney Rice is you want to see great hands on a reciever. Jury is out on his route running.


Jones does look good though.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:06 PM
I hate our runnign scheme. It just doesn't make any sense at all, and I'm a huge fan of the zone, but they are not running true zones, or their zone scheme is extremely flawed. they don't get to the LB's at all, which is the entire PURPOSE of the zone. PLUS, the packer coaches talk about the 1 cut .... zones are supposed to be 2 cuts...first cut down hill, 2nd cut back.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:06 PM
James Jones is going to be an All-Pro wide receiver.

His ability to focus and catch a football in a crowd is like nothing I've EVER seen.


He looks great from what I've seen. Check out Sidney Rice is you want to see great hands on a reciever. Jury is out on his route running.

Jennings who? Mr. Hammy?


Jones does look good though.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:06 PM
Safety's fault, he had over the top inside.

Harris didn't even give him a bump...

Your point? Still the safety's responsibility regardless.

Give Bigby a second to see the play... Harris was effectively not in the play at all.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:07 PM
That TD reminds me of the early coverage we didn't have last season.

Al Harris didn't get his feet off the ground orhe might have deflected that pass.

Still that was an excellent route by Plaxico Burress and awesome pass by Eli Manning.

New York Giants at 08:18

2-M.Crosby kicks 63 yards from GB 30 to NYG 7. 44-A.Bradshaw to NYG 34 for 27 yards (27-W.Blackmon).

1-10-NYG 34 (8:11) 10-E.Manning pass short left to 81-A.Toomer to GB 26 for 40 yards (21-C.Woodson).

1-10-GB 26 (7:27) 10-E.Manning pass deep middle to 17-P.Burress for 26 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Penalty on GB-50-A.Hawk, Illegal Contact, declined.

9-L.Tynes extra point is GOOD, Center-93-J.Alford, Holder-18-J.Feagles.

GB 7 NYG 7 Plays: 2 Possession: 1:02

Quick work there by the Giants offense.

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:07 PM
i'm wondering how long the refs are gonna allow plaxico burrus to cherrypick after every play. after every downfield play burrus shows up to cheapshot somebody right after the tackle. :evil:

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:08 PM
just a perfect throw
Hawk, tell me again, was he a 1st rd. pick? I know but I expect WAY more from Hawk - he's been nowhere for 2 weeks.
Seriously.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:08 PM
Back took the long route for 4 yards.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:08 PM
Let em play.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
Crap call.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
I don't understand how WE can get an illegal contact penalty, and the WR is WIDE OPEN....and that is the weakest penalty I've ever seen in my life, that's just bullshit.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
Let em play.


You didn't say that after Martin's defender got a PI call..... :wink:

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:09 PM
give me a break. burrus pushes off and they call al harris for illegal contact.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Texans are much improved over last year. Tied at Carolina.

Come on Woodson - play like you want to be out there!

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Terrible call

But WTF

Have we hit Eli Manning the whole frickin da ??

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Let em play.


You didn't say that after Martin's defender got a PI call..... :wink:

Yeah I did. I said 'interesting call'.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:10 PM
Green Bay Packers at 07:16

9-L.Tynes kicks 58 yards from NYG 30 to GB 12. 42-D.Wynn to GB 27 for 15 yards (44-A.Bradshaw).

1-10-GB 27 (7:10) 42-D.Wynn left tackle to GB 26 for -1 yards (98-F.Robbins).

2-11-GB 26 (6:35) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 32-B.Jackson to GB 32 for 6 yards (23-C.Webster, 97-M.Kiwanuka).
Timeout #2 by GB at 05:41.

3-5-GB 32 (5:41) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass incomplete short middle to 80-D.Driver.

4-5-GB 32 (5:35) 9-J.Ryan punts 41 yards to NYG 27, Center-60-R.Davis.
25-R.McQuarters to NYG 29 for 2 yards (57-J.Hunter).

Good ST coverage on that punt.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:11 PM
Terrible call

But WTF

Have we hit Eli Manning the whole frickin da ??

I think one push - but it was weak. Bring some heat!

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:11 PM
I think it's time for some blizting. Eli has all day back there.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:11 PM
Let em play.


You didn't say that after Martin's defender got a PI call..... :wink:

Yeah I did. I said 'interesting call'.


Not exactly the same thing but close enough...I stand corrected!

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:13 PM
Manning is in a great comfort zone; he kind or reminds me of Bledsoe

You have to pressure him to disrupt his rhythm. We are not

gbgary
09-16-2007, 01:13 PM
come on now d!!

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Close game.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Nearing 200 yards of O for the Giants today... jeezus.

motife
09-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Texans are much improved over last year. Tied at Carolina.

Come on Woodson - play like you want to be out there!

Amobi Okoye is a tremendous pass rusher. He pressures almost every play. Just got a sack on the last play.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:14 PM
Sanders needs to figure something out, cause right now what he's doing isnt' working.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
Browns up 20-14! Wow.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
Sanders needs to figure something out, cause right now what he's doing isnt' working.


Giant's offense looked good against Dallas.

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
Sanders needs to figure something out, cause right now what he's doing isnt' working.


I said that much of last year until the final four games made him smell like a rose

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:16 PM
Browns up 20-14! Wow.

Was just gonna say this. Did anyone expect Joe Jurevicius to have 2 scores?

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:16 PM
Browns up 20-14! Wow.

Was just gonna say this. Did anyone expect Joe Jurevicius to have 2 scores?


Can't say I did..... :D

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:16 PM
I have yet to see a Packer defender anywhere near a person the Giants are throwing to.

gbgary
09-16-2007, 01:17 PM
shockey is an idiot

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:17 PM
what happened?

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:17 PM
Already the Giants have run up nearly 200 yards of 'O' on our defense
(193 yards)

This isn't loooking good. Manning is killing us through the air.

Manning is 10/15 for 143 yards.

Another miracle in the hat for us? :)

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Fantasy FB "experts" were hyping Cincinnati's DST for a spot start going against the Brownies. I even picked them up in one league, but didn't start 'em. *whew*

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:18 PM
what happened?

?

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Thank you for spiking the ball Jeremy Shockey.

Also, I don't understand how those offset exactly, but whatever, I'll take it.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:18 PM
Announcers like using 'interesting' for 'bad' call. Should've been a 1st down.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
That is stupid.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
And Shockey drops another one, which probably would have been a touchdown.

Thank you Shockey!

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Why was Shockey SO wide open

motife
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Vonta Leach and Ahman Green.

Texans backfield.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Crazy pass by Manny.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Why was Shockey SO wide open

With Smith out for the game - all we need to worry about is Shockey and Burress. But Burress is limping.

Giants are injury prone this year.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Shockey made a deep catch, and spiked the ball in celebration. That's a penalty this year, unless done in the end zone after a TD. Wipes away the catch.

Now he just dropped another bomb at the two yard line. :D :D :D

I know it's killin you in fantasy, but that's on you for starting him. :wink:

motife
09-16-2007, 01:21 PM
The offense is going to have to catch fire now.

They're going to have to bail out the D for once.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Vonta Leach and Ahman Green.

Texans backfield.


ehhh - makes you sick

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
Did they just show Plax limping toward the locker room? Bad for me fantasy wise, but very good for the Pack.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
Crazy pass by Manny.

...it was in the clouds for ages - Shrek would've made that pass.

gbgary
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
we've had a couple of stupid penalties today

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
Shockey made a deep catch, and spiked the ball in celebration. That's a penalty this year, unless done in the end zone after a TD. Wipes away the catch.

Now he just dropped another bomb at the two yard line. :D :D :D

I know it's killin you in fantasy, but that's on you for starting him. :wink:


Fantasy stuff takes a backseat to football stuff every time.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
obviously with 1:30 left, we're uninterested in trying

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
Fantasy FB "experts" were hyping Cincinnati's DST for a spot start going against the Brownies. I even picked them up in one league, but didn't start 'em. *whew*

Clevland 20 - Cincy 14.

Tampa Bay 14 = NO zip

Atlanta 7 - Jacksonville 3

WOW !!

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:22 PM
well, I wish we would try and at least get some points here.

Tony Oday
09-16-2007, 01:23 PM
Our secondary looks like swiss cheese

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:23 PM
Thanks, Mr. Cole - you owe me 10 laps for stupidity. Instead of needing 30 yards for a FG - the Pack will inevitably punt soon.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:23 PM
we went from dominating.....to being laughable.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:23 PM
Fantasy FB "experts" were hyping Cincinnati's DST for a spot start going against the Brownies. I even picked them up in one league, but didn't start 'em. *whew*

Clevland 20 - Cincy 14.

Tampa Bay 14 = NO zip

Atlanta 7 - Jacksonville 3

WOW !!

Definitely some odd results so far this week! :o

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:24 PM
can we have a sense of urgency?

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:24 PM
uggg, Jax can't lose!!!

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
knee it...quit trying

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Shockey made a deep catch, and spiked the ball in celebration. That's a penalty this year, unless done in the end zone after a TD. Wipes away the catch.

Now he just dropped another bomb at the two yard line. :D :D :D

I know it's killin you in fantasy, but that's on you for starting him. :wink:


Fantasy stuff takes a backseat to football stuff every time.

Hear! All this fantasy crap during this crappy game is crap.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
New York Giants at 05:24

1-10-NYG 29 (5:24) 83-S.Moss left end to NYG 33 for 4 yards (31-A.Harris, 56-N.Barnett).

2-6-NYG 33 (4:55) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep middle to 17-P.Burress. PENALTY on GB-31-A.Harris, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at NYG 33 - No Play.

1-10-NYG 38 (4:44) 10-E.Manning pass short right to 81-A.Toomer to NYG 46 for 8 yards (21-C.Woodson).

2-2-NYG 46 (3:57) PENALTY on NYG, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at NYG 46 - No Play.

2-7-NYG 41 (3:36) (Shotgun) 34-D.Ward up the middle to NYG 45 for 4 yards (56-N.Barnett).

3-3-NYG 45 (2:53) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass deep right to 80-J.Shockey to GB 36 for 19 yards (20-A.Bigby).

1-10-GB 36 (2:12) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short left to 88-M.Matthews.

2-10-GB 36 (2:05) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass short left to 17-P.Burress to GB 30 for 6 yards (56-N.Barnett).

Two-Minute Warning

3-4-GB 30 (1:59) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass short middle to 80-J.Shockey to GB 16 for 14 yards (20-A.Bigby). Penalty on GB-74-A.Kampman, Defensive Offside, offsetting, enforced at GB 30 - No Play. Penalty on NYG-80-J.Shockey, Delay of Game, offsetting.

3-4-GB 30 (1:53) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep middle to 80-J.Shockey.

4-4-GB 30 (1:43) 9-L.Tynes 48 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-93-J.Alford, Holder-18-J.Feagles.

GB 7 NYG 10 Plays: 8 Possession: 3:46

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Fantastic catch by Reggie Wayne aye yi yi.......Manning is sharp as hell too....

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
can we have a sense of urgency? You mean to actually try and score some points before the half? :?:

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Is this a 2 min offense?

M3 needs to go back to school.

Apparently, the Shockey spike was the correct call.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
I'm liking Wynn more and more, he's green but he's got a lot of potential. Glad we didn't cut him, but we're not exactly managing the clock beautifully so far.

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:25 PM
Why was Shockey SO wide open

collins was staring in the backfield again. shockey ran right behind him into a vacant middle, its a good thing manning was rolling away from him the entire play. :shock:

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:26 PM
another stupid lookign play.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:26 PM
knee it...quit trying

Agreed.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:26 PM
What the hell was that on 3rd and 3?

motife
09-16-2007, 01:26 PM
we went from dominating.....to being laughable.

Ted Thompson and Bob Harlan will be able to turn it around at half time with a few half time reminders to the team and coaches.

I'm still predicting 16 and 0.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:26 PM
TB up 21-0?

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:27 PM
Tampa Bay now up 21-0 on New Orleans. Galloway gets his 2nd TD. :shock: :shock: :shock:

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:27 PM
Wow - that bad Packer OL is no fluke.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
Fantastic catch by Reggie Wayne aye yi yi.......Manning is sharp as hell too....

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT

P. Manning 14/19 191 1 0

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
Tampa Bay now up 21-0 on New Orleans. Galloway gets his 2nd TD. :shock: :shock: :shock:


Holy crap! What the hell is going on with the Saints... I thought Peyton was a genius.........maybe not.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:28 PM
I don't get what M3 was trying to do on that last drive. Score points, eat up the clock? Whatever it was, it was ugly.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:29 PM
Tampa Bay now up 21-0 on New Orleans. Galloway gets his 2nd TD. :shock: :shock: :shock:


Holy crap! What the hell is going on with the Saints... I thought Peyton was a genius.........maybe not.

It's called the Saints surprised a lot of people last year, and now teams are figuring them out.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 01:30 PM
Tampa Bay now up 21-0 on New Orleans. Galloway gets his 2nd TD. :shock: :shock: :shock:

This is shocking! Then again; Saints were "only" 10-6, won a lot of close ones and they played the Falcons twice / Bucs twice. But this is the Bucs?

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:30 PM
We played a pretty good first quarter, and a pretty poor second second quarter but we're still in it and we're not down by much. I fully expect very few of our wins this season to be anything near "dominating." If we're going to be a good team, you need to win games that are close like this. This will come down to heart, execution, and halftime adjustments.

Bub
09-16-2007, 01:31 PM
it seems like we started out nicely with the run, but went away from it. Does that sound accurate?

Partial
09-16-2007, 01:31 PM
who was that number 25 with the catch and spin for the extra yards a few drives back? I was at a restaurant but couldn't see it.

How do they look so far? Anyone give a brief summary of the goods, bads, uglys?

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:32 PM
i have had a theory of sorts about manning's play today. i am guessing the shoulder would be ok early and allow him to do well, but as the game wore on it would begin to tighten.

i'm hoping.

burress did limp to the locker room at the 2:00 mark so hopefully that will slow him down some.

i'm hoping woodson mans up and makes a damn tackle soon. toomer posterized him on that one sideline catch-straightarm-run play.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:32 PM
who was that number 25 with the catch and spin for the extra yards a few drives back? I was at a restaurant but couldn't see it.

How do they look so far? Anyone give a brief summary of the goods, bads, uglys?

Ryan Grant? Our new pick up from the Giants

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:34 PM
Well we are still in this game but our OL sucks wind.

We need a stronger center.

Favre can't get set the way our OL isn't getting the job done.

Good news though with the way that RB D.Wynn is playing although the OL isn't giving him any opening. 7 carries for 8 yards. Yikes !! Wynn has 2 receptions for 18 yards. He has a TD, his first in the NFL and as a Packer. :)

Brandon Jackson has gone just over 3 yards a carry. Hahoooo !

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:35 PM
1st half analysis-

Giants are hurting themselves with stupid penalites, drops and injuries. They're bringing some pressure on D realizing they only have to worry about Driver. If Shockey can catch the ball, we'll have issues without D-line playing better.

Jackson/Wynn combine for 15 carries and 34 yrds (~2 per attempt). Besides one big play to Jones, Packers 'air' attack is non-existent with lots of short passes (essentially runs).

Pretty even game so far. Packers need to get something going on the run game - and at least keep the Giants honest. Favre doesn't play that well from the shotgun - so limit that shit. Defensive secondary needs to keep their assignments. Let's hope Manning gets some pressure and Lorenzen is forced to jump into the fire.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:36 PM
I miss Favre, the Gunslinger. I don't like the role he seems to be in as a game manager.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:36 PM
1st half analysis-

Giants are hurting themselves with stupid penalites, drops and injuries. They're bringing some pressure on D realizing they only have to worry about Driver. If Shockey can catch the ball, we'll have issues without D-line playing better.

Jackson/Wynn combine for 15 carries and 34 yrds (~2 per attempt). Besides one big play to Jones, Packers 'air' attack is non-existent with lots of short passes (essentially runs).

Pretty even game so far. Packers need to get something going on the run game - and at least keep the Giants honest. Favre doesn't play that well from the shotgun - so limit that shit. Defensive secondary needs to keep their assignments. Let's hope Manning gets some pressure and Lorenzen is forced to jump into the fire.


Just saw the replay on that TD pass, that was a nice throw....shoulder looks fine on that play at least.

outflow
09-16-2007, 01:37 PM
Simply, to honor ole uncle Cliffy, this team lacks playmakers. Opposing teams don't have any respect for anyone. This just lets them tee off.

Joemailman
09-16-2007, 01:37 PM
Packers made some pretty good defensive adjustments at halftime last week. Hopefully they can do it again. If they don't get more pressure on Manning, they will lose this game.

cheesner
09-16-2007, 01:37 PM
But I have seen the Saints picked as SB bound by several 'experts'.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:38 PM
i have had a theory of sorts about manning's play today. i am guessing the shoulder would be ok early and allow him to do well, but as the game wore on it would begin to tighten.

i'm hoping.

burress did limp to the locker room at the 2:00 mark so hopefully that will slow him down some.

i'm hoping woodson mans up and makes a damn tackle soon. toomer posterized him on that one sideline catch-straightarm-run play.

Somehow Woodson is leading the team with 3 tackles in the game :oops:

SkinBasket
09-16-2007, 01:38 PM
It's frustrating to watch our vaunted DL stymied so easily by a bunch of fatties. That and Hawk still looks like he's got his eyes closed on running plays sometimes. Other than that, the rest of the game is pretty much what you'd expect.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:39 PM
I see some folks picked GB and MN in the survival pool....yikes, gutsy calls there....two road teams with so-so offenses?

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Simply, to honor ole uncle Cliffy, this team lacks playmakers. Opposing teams don't have any respect for anyone. This just lets them tee off.


Thanks to TT - right B? :lol:

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:39 PM
best part of the game so far...Brett's Boflex commercial - :lol:

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:42 PM
nice return

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:42 PM
Great return by Williams.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:42 PM
Packers made some pretty good defensive adjustments at halftime last week. Hopefully they can do it again. If they don't get more pressure on Manning, they will lose this game.

They have to stick with the run and not panic.

Given the way our OL played in that half that's a tall order.

The secondary has to keep up with the man each DB picks up. We are giving up too much there again.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:42 PM
Nice spin move by Williams on the return.

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:43 PM
who was that number 25 with the catch and spin for the extra yards a few drives back? I was at a restaurant but couldn't see it.

How do they look so far? Anyone give a brief summary of the goods, bads, uglys?

That was the new RB we traded a 6th for; Ryan Grant

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:44 PM
1st down to the rookie fullback. It's something.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:44 PM
1st down to the rookie fullback. It's something.

Ditto.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
The Boise State Linebacker with 2 catches for first downs. I like Hall.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
The Packers running game is fricken pathetic. If the Giants learn to cover the checkdown back, we're done.

Harlan Huckleby
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
hall with the shake & bake

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
OK one improvement is that already we have picked up our 12th first down after only getting 10 all game Vs. Philly.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
once again....I hate our running game.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:45 PM
We were running the ball for 3 yards on first down in the first quarter, what happened? Maybe try play action on first down?

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:46 PM
The Packers running game is fricken pathetic. If the Giants learn to cover the checkdown back, we're done.


18 carries, 35 yards is pretty bad.

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:46 PM
Simply, to honor ole uncle Cliffy, this team lacks playmakers. Opposing teams don't have any respect for anyone. This just lets them tee off.


Thanks to TT - right B? :lol:


ABSOLUTELY; HE'S HAD THREE YEARS NOW

outflow
09-16-2007, 01:46 PM
they seem content with a FG

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:46 PM
We were running the ball for 3 yards on first down in the first quarter, what happened? Maybe try play action on first down?

We've run on first down many times this game - Giants have read that well.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Gotta love James JOnes....

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:47 PM
First and Goal! Jones didn't have to do much for that.

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:47 PM
EVERY SINGLE RUNNING PLAY, ONE OF THE DL PLAYERS IS IN THE BACKFIELD. IT'S PISSING ME OFF.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Ok, time for Jones to get a TD. I'll take Driver or Franks. Favre needs a TD.

Yet again, on 1st down - the Packers do nothing with the run.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:47 PM
Nice 3rd down grab by JJ! 1st and goal!

Run for loss, 2nd and goal. :?

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:48 PM
They had better be setting up the first down play action play.

First and goal on the one!

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:48 PM
We just can't frickin run

This OL sucks

Brohm
09-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Who the hell does not block Strahan?

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:48 PM
Bad call. Anyone think we can run this in?

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:48 PM
There is a big difference if the OL gives some time to Favre.

That pass to Jones was too cool.

Anyone believe that Favre can't still play?

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
B. Favre 15/21 181 0 1

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
First and goal on the 1 or 1 1/2 yard line, how many times do they run?

outflow
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
Bad call. Anyone think we can run this in?

No

Bretsky
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
EVERY SINGLE RUNNING PLAY, ONE OF THE DL PLAYERS IS IN THE BACKFIELD. IT'S PISSING ME OFF.


Is anybody even blocking ?

Freak Out
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
Games not on here but judging by the stats our run game is still in exile.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/gbrulz/72295778.jpg

TD!!! THE COUNTDOWN RESUMES.... 6 TO GO FOR BRETT !!!

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:49 PM
This red zone offense needs to get a lot better.

Thank you Bubba.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
BUBBA EFFIN FRANKS!! I like it.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
SECOND OFFENSIVE TOUCHDOWN! FAVRE TO FRANKS!

Just like old times...

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and to bubba no less

Freak Out
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
#4.... :worship:

gbgary
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
nice drive with a perfect conclusion.

Harlan Huckleby
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
that was a hell of a pas by farvrah

Bub
09-16-2007, 01:50 PM
Bubba who? When's the last time he had one?

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 01:51 PM
HOLY MACKERALLL !

BUBBA !!

TD via the air and Favre can count six more to vault over Dan Marino.

:) X 10.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:51 PM
Bubba who? When's the last time he had one?

When was Brett's last TD?

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:52 PM
Colts FG...19-6....

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:52 PM
Okay, I hope McCarthy starts mixing it up. In the first quarter we were committed to running the ball on first down to set up 2nd and shorter, and we managed that getting like 28 yards on the first 5-6 runs, which is respectible.

Since then, the Giants have been selling out to stop the run on first down, and it's worked for them. Hopefully McCarthy will throw in some screens or play action on first down to take advantage of this.

That being said, I'm happy that the dump off to the fullback is still part of our offense. For a guy who was playing defense last year, Hall looks natural with the ball.

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:53 PM
jones has 4 catches for 75 yards. nice tightrope catch-and-run on the last drive.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:53 PM
Bishop and Droughns rang each other's bells on that kickoff return, ouch.

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Bubba who? When's the last time he had one?

Week 8 in 2005.

Joemailman
09-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Time for the defense to assert himself. Stop them here and we have a chance to start taking control of this game.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:54 PM
Bubba who? When's the last time he had one?

When was Brett's last TD?

Was it in SF on 12/10? The one MTP and I saw in person.... wow - been awhile?

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:55 PM
Time for the defense to assert himself. Stop them here and we have a chance to start taking control of this game.

There goes that Idea

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:55 PM
That is not what we needed to see from the defense here.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:55 PM
Time for the defense to assert himself. Stop them here and we have a chance to start taking control of this game.


Not the way to start - 26 yard run. Almost as much as the Packers have in the game... :oops:

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Ward - 9 carries 71 yards.....



who the hell is ward by the way.....

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
The tackling today is poor.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
Where is our pass rush?

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:56 PM
20 rushes, 24 passes so far if you add the sack and int.

not bad m3.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:57 PM
20 rushes, 24 passes so far if you add the sack and int.

not bad m3.

At least we're trying this week.

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 01:58 PM
Ahman Green having a good day, as are the Texans (31-14 to this point after recovering a fumble on a kickoff), and their zone blocking vs. Carolina looks good!

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 01:58 PM
Was that even catchable?

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 01:58 PM
Come on Al...

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:58 PM
ok.....another bad acting my Plax, and he gets the call.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Harris has a couple today.....

ND72
09-16-2007, 01:59 PM
Was that even catchable?


NO

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 01:59 PM
This isn't the best day for Al Harris

FritzDontBlitz
09-16-2007, 01:59 PM
woodson falls down again.

what the fuck.

play clock runs out, harris gets called for pass interference within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage.

can we get some real refs?

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Shockey is a bitch. Put a hat on that long haired freak.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Good to see them sending Bigby, he has some potential as a blitzer.

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Al Harris reminds himself of a man name A.Carroll. :)

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
[quote="FritzDontBlitz"]woodson falls down again.
quote]

At least 4 or 5 in 2 games - and there's no rain today.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
Shockey is a bitch. Put a hat on that long haired freak.


Hey!


:wink:

digitaldean
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
[quote=FritzDontBlitz]woodson falls down again.
quote]

At least 4 or 5 in 2 games - and there's no rain today.

2 words for Woodson - LONGER CLEATS!

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
Really late blitz by Hawk. Toomer should be fined for that shit - trying to take out Barnett's knees.

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
We deserved that after what Burress has been getting away with

ND72
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
Toomer is gonna lose a couple dollars this week for that cheap shot.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
Smart penalty there by Toomer...

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
Nice pursuit by Jenkins.

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
How about a big apple turnover!

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:02 PM
Shockey is a bitch. Put a hat on that long haired freak.


Hey!


:wink:

Hippie :wink:

Bub
09-16-2007, 02:03 PM
Nice....TB scores again....28-0

Rastak
09-16-2007, 02:03 PM
One point game......this is a close one. I kind of expected it to be.....

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 02:04 PM
Nice....TB scores again....28-0

Golly!

the_idle_threat
09-16-2007, 02:04 PM
We deserved that after what Burress has been getting away with

Agreed. Lots of extracurricular activity in this game. It's about time one of their guys lost his cool and hurt his team.

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 02:04 PM
Win for us to give up only a FG

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:04 PM
Bend but don't break defense.

Plug and play offense.

These games are gonna be really exciting this year. I apologized in advance to my neighbors for early morning screaming (West coast).

Rastak
09-16-2007, 02:05 PM
Reggie Wayne limping off the field.....


edit: first pick for manning in 190 passes.....Wayne pulled up lame and the safety grabs it....

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 02:06 PM
One point game......this is a close one. I kind of expected it to be.....

Yeah, two teams struggling - Giants overall the most but Packers not elite to put'em away for sure.

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Reggie Wayne limping off the field.....


edit: first pick for manning in 190 passes.....Wayne pulled up lame and the safety grabs it....

Odd shoulder hit to Wayne - looked innocent.

Harlan Huckleby
09-16-2007, 02:06 PM
Toomer deserved that flag.

Ya, Barnett pushed him in the back, But then cutting him below the knees is outside the bounds.

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
Plug and play offense.

or is it plug and pray?

Rastak
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
Len Whale White, TD.......

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
A Green has a TD today. Glad to see him doing fairly well in Texas so far.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
No offensive TDs for the Aints this year.... wow.

gex
09-16-2007, 02:07 PM
Peyton is getting knocked around today. :D

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 02:08 PM
Texans 31 - Panthers 14

Passing CP/AT YDS TD INT
M. Schaub 19/24 217 2 0

Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
A. Green 14 71 1 13

Ahman happy to be back with Mike Sherman. :)

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 02:08 PM
Texans are hammering Carolina in Charlotte...that's all I have to watch.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:09 PM
I think we're abandoning the run. Not that it is a bad thing.

Bub
09-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Carolina is overrated....have been for a few years now.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:10 PM
Texans are hammering Carolina in Charlotte...that's all I have to watch.

Maybe there's something to my ranking system afterall?

gbgary
09-16-2007, 02:10 PM
nice play. come on pack...keep moving!

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm really happy to see the TE's more involved than what they have been in...years?

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
nice play. come on pack...keep moving!

Lee's played good.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm really happy to see the TE's more involved than what they have been in...years?

Speaking of TE play... another first down.

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
Nice little drive they have going so far. A lot of well executed high percentage plays for 5-7 yards.

ND72
09-16-2007, 02:11 PM
I think we're abandoning the run. Not that it is a bad thing.
I'm just waiting to see somethign else out of our zones. Just talked to my college roommate, and he and I both said, we had 2 zone counters, and those were MONEY plays. I have yet to see anything else other than, ok, zone..and the zones arent' all that great yet. and I don't blame RB's or OL, I blame scheme...something is missing.

Carolina_Packer
09-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Do they have both TE's?

Bub
09-16-2007, 02:12 PM
nice to see 8 receivers catching balls today. It would be nice to connect on a longer pass someday though

GBRulz
09-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Do they have both TE's? Yes, Lee and Bubba have both had multiple catches today

woodbuck27
09-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Now the OL is looking a lot better.

Favre is using his TE's very well and he has time to get set. What a difference that will make. :)

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Do they have both TE's?

Both Lee and Franks have played and made catches, yes.

rdanomly
09-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Cleveland is up by 10 on the Bengals

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:13 PM
Carolina is overrated....have been for a few years now.

I had Carolina @ 24 after week 1.

Saints about to score.

Rastak
09-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Wayne back in....nice grab. Manning is outstanding for those of you that didn't know that....LOL....

mmmdk
09-16-2007, 02:14 PM
Do they have both TE's? Yes, Lee and Bubba have both had multiple catches today

Witten Carved the G-men last week; Favre finding the soft spot on G-men defense.

Fosco33
09-16-2007, 02:15 PM
I think we're abandoning the run. Not that it is a bad thing.
I'm just waiting to see somethign else out of our zones. Just talked to my college roommate, and he and I both said, we had 2 zone counters, and those were MONEY plays. I have yet to see anything else other than, ok, zone..and the zones arent' all that great yet. and I don't blame RB's or OL, I blame scheme...something is missing.

True that. At least our RBs can catch!

Lurker64
09-16-2007, 02:15 PM
FIRST AND GOAL!

gbgary
09-16-2007, 02:15 PM
way to go donald!!!